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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 5:51pm

osama bin laden...

don't take out biden, because he's so useless, he's more of an assett alive

now that's a glowing endorsement... and that was arguably before he lost his marbles...

democrat party has a lot to answer for

https://www.news.com.au/world/osama-bin-laden-warned-in-2010-letter-bide...

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 6:23pm
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osama bin laden...

don't take out biden, because he's so useless, he's more of an assett alive

now that's a glowing endorsement... and that was arguably before he lost his marbles...

democrat party has a lot to answer for

https://www.news.com.au/world/osama-bin-laden-warned-in-2010-letter-bide...

Ha ha this is so funny because it's so true.

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etarip Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:00pm

News.com quoting the New York Post.

Don’t ya just hate those MSM outlets?

As uninspiring as Joe is, a significant number of Americans, more than enough, decided he was better than the other guy. That’s gotta hurt.

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:24pm

what's gotta hurt is they had to lie cheat and steal to beat the other guy... and they still only just got there...

and it was the king babboon of the buffoons... donald fucking trump... that's gotta hurt...

anyone, ...and I mean anyone! would have been a better choice than biden...

well, maybe not bloomberg... but nearly anyone but biden!

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:21pm

actually... maybe not kamala too...

had high hopes for her, what a dud she's turned out to be...

the democrats problems run way deeper than the personalities

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troppo dichotomy Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:22pm

Rumors n conspirators are saying Biden wont make it til Christmas?
lets wait n see.......?

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:28pm

it would be the kindest thing to do...

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etarip Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:35pm

Yah, some deep issues in US politics. (And ours). Hard to find a candidate that’s remotely relatable.

You’ve got a real Jihad going for Joe though.

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etarip Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:37pm

And yeah, sorry, the lying’ cheatin’ stealin’ thing?
That’s in the courts right now, right? All those criminal, civil and administrative proceedings?

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 7:40pm

come on man!

he clearly should not be in that position

surely you can concede that?

...as someone who still calls themself left (me) it is just embarrassing... shamefully so...

dangerously shamefully so...

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etarip Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 8:11pm

Sad as it is, he’s still better than the alternative.

I hold no affection for Joe. I have a deep and unbending antipathy toward Donnie. And what he represents. Wilful Ignorance, Conscious and Shameless Kleptocracy, a man truly without honour or a sense of service.

So if you’re going to make it a binary decision, I won’t concede that he shouldn’t be there.

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Westofthelake Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 8:09pm
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Yah, some deep issues in US politics. (And ours). Hard to find a candidate that’s remotely relatable.

You’ve got a real Jihad going for Joe though.

Yea ol syppo likes a biden/democrat beat down...but if the democrats are the dung beetle, then surely the republicans are dung beetle dung?

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 8:33pm

"Yea ol syppo likes a biden/democrat beat down...but if the democrats are the dung beetle, then surely the republicans are dung beetle dung?"

they're not the dung beetle...

they're just indoctrinated, hubric to the point of being sociopathic and pathological, and wayward...

with oz not far behind...

they need to identify their issues before they can repair

but they seem incapable of that, they just dig deeper and deeper, seems they're at their happiest surrounded by steaming bullshit

maybe they are the dung beetle after all...

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Westofthelake Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 8:53pm

I knew you'd work it out Cheers sypkan. Carry on.

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 9:38pm

it's all about 'narratives' westof...

and a bunch of indoctrinated half employed barista activists... and their overcooked belief that those that control 'the narratives' control the power...

which is a fair point to make

but if you make that your only point

well, let's just say that takes a lot of management and energy

a lot of management and energy that distracts you from the real problems of the real people and commensurate solutions

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sypkan Saturday, 21 Aug 2021 at 9:39pm

and to add to their woes...

this pesky thing called the internet came on to the scene around the same time

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etarip Sunday, 22 Aug 2021 at 9:29pm

My Afghan mate has apparently made it through the gauntlet outside Kabul airport with his family. Waiting for a flight.

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zenagain Sunday, 22 Aug 2021 at 10:19pm

Awesome. The goodest of good luck to him, hope he and his fam can get out safely.

Watchted some various footage of what's going on over there. Hard to fathom.

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etarip Sunday, 22 Aug 2021 at 10:29pm

Thanks Zen. Here’s to hope.

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Distracted Monday, 23 Aug 2021 at 10:27pm

“Beyond the Towers”, summary from 9/11 to Afghanistan on the ABC.
Obscene how badly the US and good old Australia got it wrong with misguided invasions in the Middle East and thousands of lives destroyed. And in the end, Osama probably got exactly what he wanted…. Long drawn out war with the US and more terrorists and terror attacks throughout the world than before.

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sypkan Monday, 23 Aug 2021 at 11:37pm

ignore the tucker bit... listen to the guest bit... highly credible and experienced war correspondant

raises more questions than she answers, but definitely interesting stuff

https://m.

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GuySmiley Monday, 23 Aug 2021 at 11:46pm

interesting viewing on 4 corners tonight and next week on Fox News and Murdoch's role in Trump's presidency and the failed election and post election lies ..... not recommended for tin hat wearing purveyor's of fake news. Iview for those here that think facts remain important.

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sypkan Tuesday, 24 Aug 2021 at 12:23am

yeh looking forward to it

even if it'll have that abc stenchy stain all over it...

(none of that changes the credibility of the lady in the vid above btw...)

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garyg1412 Tuesday, 24 Aug 2021 at 10:29am
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“Beyond the Towers”, summary from 9/11 to Afghanistan on the ABC.
Obscene how badly the US and good old Australia got it wrong with misguided invasions in the Middle East and thousands of lives destroyed. And in the end, Osama probably got exactly what he wanted…. Long drawn out war with the US and more terrorists and terror attacks throughout the world than before.

And then you get Eyebrows doubling down on his misguided decisions.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-08-18/john-howard-afghanistan-war-not-a...
Admitting you were wrong feels really good sometimes and earns respect from those around you, but politicians just don't get it and never will.

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Roker Tuesday, 24 Aug 2021 at 10:49am
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interesting viewing on 4 corners tonight and next week on Fox News and Murdoch's role in Trump's presidency and the failed election and post election lies ..... not recommended for tin hat wearing purveyor's of fake news. Iview for those here that think facts remain important.

Wow! What. a scoop from the ABC. Fox News business model based on pro Trump anti Democratic Party polemicists. Who knew? Talk about picking the low hanging fruit and preaching to the choir. Hard hitting investigative journalist Sarah Ferguson shining light in dark places and speaking truth to power. Your taxpayer dollar well spent.

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sypkan Tuesday, 24 Aug 2021 at 12:54pm

"...The people in charge stopped being adults, which meant they stopped upholding the values and standards of those who came before and they rationalized this abandonment by telling themselves that the Tik-Tokification of American discourse was harmless or forward-looking or a good way to “engage” Gen Z. They forgot that it was their job not to engage with the young but to teach them.

They were confused, and, in their confusion, they failed to distinguish between influencers — otherwise known as popular people with short shelf lives — and leaders, who were willing to harness and even sacrifice their popularity in the service of something bigger than themselves. Everyone in the land of this new, horizontal, non-elite elite, was a brand now, and they spoke the same stupid, happy lingo of the H.R. Department —  relentlessly upbeat, irony-averse, disingenuous, parochial. They thought the worst thing in the world was to offend. They said amazing a lot. 

They were disconnected from the gravity of the moment, because, like all adolescents, they hadn’t yet come into possession of themselves. They were silly and trite and self-important. They were conduits for social-media personalities. They thought bubble-gum phenoms like Benny Drama were clever.

It’s worth noting that the White House released that Benny Drama video — which was meant to encourage all of us to get our vaccinations — weeks after the State Department warned that Kabul was on the brink of falling to the Taliban and exactly one week before all those Afghans crammed themselves into the wheel well and climbed onto the wing of that C-17,  hoping that, somehow, when they opened their eyes, they would be in America. 

Our elites’ dereliction of duty, their forgetting — about who they were supposed to be and, just as important, what America was supposed to be — is mostly to blame for the ocean of inanity that has engulfed us. The multiplying stupidities. The mythologies we promulgate online unironically or strategically. The preeners. The pronoun displayers. The opportunists. Michael Moore with his mindless Instagram post about everyone having their own Taliban. 

A genuine elite would know enough, be strong enough, to say: enough. To say: no. To say: that is nonsense.

A genuine elite would care little about how many followers it had. It would be steeped in its many responsibilities — to those who had come before and those who were yet to be born — and that sense of responsibility would be reflected in its nourishing and cultivation of the institutions of American life. It would ensure that those institutions remained tethered to their heritage while open to new voices. An ever-expanding, renewing worldview. Like America itself.

Instead, we are governed by weaklings whose weakness has enabled all species of moral relativism. The identitarian left can no longer distinguish between its political foes and those who are truly evil. It cannot see that the “toxic masculinity” it decries extended the lifespans of Afghan women and shielded them from their would-be rapists and enabled their daughters to go to school. The identitarian right wonders aloud why America should absorb the Afghan interpreters who helped us prosecute a 20-year-war in their country. It cannot see that admitting these refugees is a matter not of immigration policy, but of honor and integrity and preserving these values that, it claims, are central to the American character. Both camps have been permanently alienated from their home. Both are incapable of charting a way forward, because they have forgotten, among all the many other things, where we are going. Our ignominious departure from Hamid Karzai International was presaged years ago by their ignorance and cravenness..."

https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/after-the-fall

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JQ Tuesday, 24 Aug 2021 at 9:20pm

That's an interesting piece sypkan, good read. I can't help but feel that the overarching driver behind it all is late stage capitalism.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 25 Aug 2021 at 7:29am

To this date, the TGA has not received any application to register Ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19, the spokesperson said.
“The TGA cannot compel a company to make an application or approve a medicine in the absence of an application,” the spokesperson told The Feed.

Doctors are able to prescribe existing medicines off-label based on their own clinical judgement, according to the spokesperson.

“It is not illegal but is subject to the clinical discretion of the prescriber with consideration of the potential risks and benefits in the setting of informed consent.”
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/the-feed/tga-warns-australians-against-iverm...

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Supafreak Wednesday, 25 Aug 2021 at 12:58pm

Australian Doctors now asking for a review of ivermectin. https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/public-health/2021/08/a-total-lack-of-th.... Comments also worth reading

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Patrick Wednesday, 25 Aug 2021 at 2:05pm

Interesting use of pronouns.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/minnesota-mosque...

When the party says 2 + 2 = 5 and people go along with it (in case someone's feelings are hurt) this is the result.

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Patrick Wednesday, 25 Aug 2021 at 6:12pm

John Cleese has a new show.

“The main thing is to try to be kind. But that then becomes a sort of indulgence of the most over-sensitive people in your culture, the people who are most easily upset … I don’t think we should organise a society around the sensibilities of the most easily upset people because then you have a very neurotic society."

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/aug/24/cancel-me-john-cleese-to...

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 25 Aug 2021 at 6:35pm
Patrick wrote:

Interesting use of pronouns.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/minnesota-mosque...

When the party says 2 + 2 = 5 and people go along with it (in case someone's feelings are hurt) this is the result.

Ha ha he is clearly just trolling everyone.

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Patrick Wednesday, 25 Aug 2021 at 7:46pm

Maybe but it's being used fairly often now as an excuse and guys are getting housed in female prisons by claiming they're 'trans'. In California it's becone a real problem.

In New York people can be fined $250,000 for 'misgendering' someone.

Some people think human's aren't a sexually dimorphic species while at the same time expressing being offended for being referred to with the 'wrong' pronoun.

My nephew is at an acting school in LA. He and his class mates shot a short film for school. Each performer and crew included their 'preferred pronouns' in the credits.

Nucking Futs.

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sypkan Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 11:47am

little willy should nevermind...

and just get on with capitaising on his no talent stroke of luck gold card to picking up chicks... or blokes... or non binaries... or whatever...

much of this generation are rather pathetic, in so many ways...

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sypkan Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 11:48am

and I believe it to be not really their fault...

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sypkan Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 11:54am

john cleese is on to it...

"John Cleese has a new show.

“The main thing is to try to be kind. But that then becomes a sort of indulgence of the most over-sensitive people in your culture, the people who are most easily upset … I don’t think we should organise a society around the sensibilities of the most easily upset people because then you have a very neurotic society."

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/aug/24/cancel-me-john-cleese-to..."

...seems we were much better of when such neurosis was just a sexist thing....

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udo Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 2:19pm

https://www.abc.net.au/news/rural/2021-08-26/onslow-blueprint-for-electr...
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Recent footage shows that Surf Ranch train now has a fair size Solar setup on it

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GreenJam Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 2:26pm

nuts alright Patrick

a friend recently wanted to volunteer with the Melbourne International Film Festival. Got past the initial phase and invited to attend an 'interview', a group thing where I guess those in charge (she described as probably late 20s hipster [or wannabe] types) were vetting the volunteer's potential. Firstly the guy in her group circle described himself as a 'part-time ADHD sufferer'. She's very rational, so immediately questioned that - what do you mean? that's not something you can turn on or off is it? That was met with deadly silence and death stares from most in the group. Then it was time for introductions, and everyone was asked to include their preferred pronoun. She didnt mention it in her introduction, but was then questioned, to which she replied 'well, I'm a girl, so obviously she'. Again the death stares. By this stage she says she was clearly on the outer, but cheerily carried on as is her character.
A week later and decision day. Surprise, surprise, she didnt get the gig, despite no doubt in my mind she would have been a brilliant and charming volunteer to guide punters around and provide insightful thoughts/comments on the films

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JackStance Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 3:29pm
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Ha mate you couldn't surf the shit we get and take it serious and that's the point.Why so serious in all aspects from peoples views on politics through to whats currently the hot topic so so serious to the point of or close too extreme views being expressed.Where is the humor?all but gone.Lifty was all about humor if you couldn't see that your lacking.Who surfs on these threads on a regular basis?Like really surfs.Chases swells puts it all on the line has a red hot go.Not many I think to busy caught up in today's problems.We as surfers are selfish always have been always will and that carries on to our outlook elsewhere.

this isn't Dale Cooper from Kiama is it?

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 3:50pm

Udo -Recent footage shows that Surf Ranch train now has a fair size Solar setup on it .

I checked the article out and am very impressed .

More than a fair size it looks huge for a rural town like Onslow . A great investment ( would not come cheap ) and it does not matter that they so many other social needs that need funding . Looks fantastic with all the units in very nice rows . So organised ! Master planners .

Battery storage has come so far in the last few years and is already producing incredible results .

After a perfect sunny day the batteries are able to power the town for 80 minutes ( not at dinner time ) .

Who cares if it needs a backup ? Kill them as they don't matter .

Yes I am being sarcastic .

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udo Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 3:58pm

Where would i find the Solar KW produced for the Surf Ranch Train Hutchy ?

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 4:12pm

I feel it is not a serious question but I have no idea .

The energy is very useful during the middle of the day , as the lovely elderly lady said , for air-conditioning .

Also her power bills have plummeted which is great !

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udo Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 4:32pm

Hutchy / The train now has some solar on the deck -- i did seperate the ABC article with ---------------


At 10 .10 on this vid - presuming they are solar panels ?

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Fliplid Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 4:30pm

There's this one too Udo.

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 26 Aug 2021 at 6:19pm

I actually think solar power is good udo . Just not a solution for peak load power .

In places like Onslow it is a great solution for power during the the day and anywhere where the sun shines and it is hot . Huge application for wavepools ( as you point out ) as well as air-conditioning during the day .

Have read that the technology is improving in leaps and bounds to enable use in lower levels of sunshine
and temps . Germany is doing incredible work in this area .

The technology of battery storage though , will take decades imo to make even a dint in the need for power when the sun does not shine and for peak loads . The use of all the hard to find and expensive metals ( nickel , cobalt , palladium ( also called unobtainium ) and other " rare earth minerals " work against this technology being a long term solution . In the medium/long-term humans will have invented a brand new energy source I believe and hope . Something incredible like possibly harnessing energy from Dark Matter .

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Supafreak Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 6:49pm

Afghanistan photos from the 60’s & 70’s.

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etarip Friday, 27 Aug 2021 at 8:33pm

Fascinating video / slideshow supa. A couple of old close family friends went through Afghanistan in the early 70s, on the overland route from Europe to Australia. They said it was totally safe - but the ‘sophistication’ of Kabul was a huge contrast to the rest of the country. I think it still is.

Kandahar is central Pashtunistan. It was the Taliban capital form 1994 onwards. Kabul is something entirely different.