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time to put the keyboard away boys

After all thats written it's good to hear the final outcome was NO. But the reading was a contradiction overload.
What a lot of tail licking in this forum. My part of the world gets bombarded with fly in fly out surfers every time there's a half decent forecast.
Maurice Cole team rider came down with jetskis and with his photographer and put photos in Australia’s 1st big wave competition and won and in doing so exposed this wave and encouraged others to expose other big waves and come and tow in and potentially win peanuts at the expense of all the locals. As a result the locals bought jetskis and started tow surfing. He also has done a PRIME TIME 60mins story down here, however excluding some of the locals. And he made 2 documentary movies, Storm Surfers using 2 local waves as The Poster for the movies. We have our own photographers and video guys down this neck of the woods, but they use mainlanders. MC boards support the main guy here who is clearly flying in and out with a mass media operation and numerous people on this forum are applauding him for his efforts in stopping progress in their state.
Is it ok if it’s NOT YOUR state?
MC accomadates the fly in fly out surfers, (one guy down here with Kelly was on an MC 6’4 by 3 inches thick made especially for Shipstern Bluff strike mission), and talks of No benefit in having a contest, but he was in the states when Lowers was on and was shaping with Biolis wishing Taj was still on his boards. Speaking of which, taj was in the MC made tow in MCsurfboards movie exploiting waves in Western Australia. He would of been hanging out with Steve Ryan, PK and Sarge when all the Tracks covers, Rip Curl movies and Sarges scrapbooks were exploiting the NoExposure coast too. The same guy looks to have a new alliance in Patagonia, the company that has been filming at the neck of the woods which he strongly advocates as a media free enviroment.
The one time I did head up to surf i was confronted with the kids in town threatening NOEXPOSURE, like my girlfriend’s going to pull out a Cannon and start snapping me. She didn't, but they had their Sony camcorders. I guess their ploy worked, I’ve never been back.
The same happened to some of the other local lads. Maybe we needed 60mins in tow!
Well, keep licking his tail, until he or his teamrider(with 20 stormsurfers staff) turns up in your town! I'm sure he has a perfect logical explanation for it. And all you tail lickers will believe whatever he writes, he’s MC.

Hello s-l, sounds like you have a personal beef with MC. Go vent somewhere else.
Perhaps grab some tissues and sneak back under your sheets.
I'm not defending MC, but publically he's stood up for a worthy cause and identified himself.
You sound like a Jeff Rowley Fig Jam type, have you spoken to these guys when they are there exposing your coast?
Looks like you joined just to have a dig, like me you should keep it objective.
And finish with peace.
Peace

s-l , Tassie boy? Its not ok anywhere if the locals made it known its not wanted but did that happen?

MC has acknowledged he's made mistakes in the past.. Its a smart person who learns and modifies their behaviour but I would also understand bitterness from you dealing with the fall out.

Interesting isn't it, s-l 's post proves again that exposure only has one outcome.

As for MC main rider I know he's respectful in areas where its been made clear its not cool. So my advice is stand up for yourselves if you boys aren't cool with stuff in your home town do something about it. No point whining after the fact.

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Gee S-L....care to put a real name if ya want to start the personal crap again.....

most of what you say about me is Bullshit...c'mon why don't ya rip into RCJ.....I could answer in detail about all your BS rumor and innuendo...and you have clearly just made up story's to support your ......what is your postion on the BWWT near Streaky??

Most of all the Jetski stuff we did 10 years ago was pioneering spots/waves and s/bd design......the results are in .....and I am able to now see quite clearly the cause and effect of some of our actions,so I have an opinion based on more than 45 years of surfing and first hand experiences...

made mistakes?..hell yeah...learn from them?..... hell yeah

as for your personal attack....based on twisted stories and twisted facts....ah you guys will never get it!!

S-L .... getting off topic much? There seems to be high levels of estrogen here amongst some blokes, bitchy as.

Good result for the majority, i for one am happy and will be in the Eyre in a few days for a week + this summer for a month..... cant get there soon enough!

While we are off topic, did you hear of the guy that got chomped by the white pointer at J/Bay a few days ago?

M-C
firstly I apologise for directing all my anger solely at youreslef.
Secondly I have been frustrated for years at all the exposure that has come from many of the fly in fly out surfers that people have talked about in this forum thread and one surfer you sponsor just so happened to be at the forefront of the exposure down here. I'm sure Andy C left here to get away from all that had turned out as a result of the media attention
Thirdly, that just so happen to piss me off more when all the faceless (false names) men were applauding you for all you had done for them, when it had seemed to me you were happy to gain exposure for your boards through the media attention grabbed by your team rider. I didn't see you writing asking for names when you were applauded.
I acknowledge some of the points I brought up were only hearsay, however that didn't seem to stop anyone else earlier on this thread, as most of what was written was hearsay and finger pointing and accusations, but as long it was directed at the same person no one else seemed to care. I retract any hearsay such as patagonia filming in the west coast victoria area. I will not retract the fact that teenagers threatened me and then were seen filming themselves from the cliff. The hearsay seems to be double standards still today in this area regarding locals and photos and locals towing while people are paddling. Can I write that? or can I say that this is the information that has been spreading through word of mouth?
Good to see you acknowledge mistakes made and having learnt from them.
That takes a humble man to admit that. Do you give others a chance to learn from their mistakes without judging them?
Have you been to South Australia? Have the locals down there told you they don't want the media? Well sometimes when the big names fly in and out so quick, never spend time hanginging around, especially not even having much to do with the local surfers it is very hard to get your point across and let them know that you don't agree with what they are doing. I'm pretty sure those guys are not reading this forum, it's more like a bunch of core surfers, and yuppies that call themslelves core surfers and soulsurfers that read and contribute to the forum on this website.

What is your stance on any of your team riders that have turned up, with or without local support to get a quick few photos and film for a movie. One local might say yes when all the rest have a different idea!

Last of all, if you read my first line of my first letter, it said good to see NO for the comp.

peace

Hi s-l..apology accepted,and nice to see that we can have a discussion...

Firstly RCJ is not my team rider,I don't and haven't had any team riders for 8 years or more.Just for the record I have a miniscule business now where I have been doing 300 bds a year,as I have been fighting cancer..

So far RCJ has not exposed anything except the original Shipstern trip,when there was no-one surfing there and I went as a driver for RCJ...just to see......and tow...pioneering?

Pretty bummed that you suffered at the hands of some of the young guys down south..but I bet that was a couple of years ago...I used to get the same....but all has calmed now and I think its good to say if ya just want to surf ....down south,anybody is welcome that does not want to exploit the coast for 5 mins of fame

a lot of years went into achieving a strong united front where all the recreational surfers have agreed on a code of conduct...but there will be always guys like FIG JAM Rowley who just want to promote themselves at any cost...to the local area....

I have been to SA and also have had a lot of contact behind the scenes with some of the Custodians from SA.....and it seems like no-one really wants to promote the area to get more surfers in the water....

Actually who wants more surfers in any lineup??

s-l ,

I think you might not be aware . But this isn't the First Thread on this Forum where people have discussed the same/ similar issues and not just confined to SA but many coast's including Tassie . I wouldn't expect you to go back through them , as even when we were involved in them they were tiring and enthusiastic in the same sentence . At some stage the attention they were generating was bordering on Negative , as ultimately it showed how defensive or how strongly people were compelled to protect their little part of self proclaimed but completely open Nirvana . The more people seemed to be protective the more interest would come as others realised why they were being defensive . etc etc ...

So No , i wouldn't think we're all Yuppies or Whatever . Just committed to the protection of public space .... Ultimately its not the financial position of the posters , its their passion to the Topic . Now if Camel managed to find time to get on the Net and post in here then this sort of debunks your Yuppie Theory ....
As for Tassie , power to the Local Boys . But as you mentioned , Andy and atleast one or two others before him were rightly or wrongly letting secrets out . I for one found far more footage on the Net from local sources than FIFO's . But in saying that , perhaps the circles i travelled in and more so some of the Older crew I'd met elsewhere in Oz and Overseas had shy looks when i would Quiz them about waves i shouldn't have known about around Camp fires over a Beer . And then there is a few Fisho connections , that had stories well before Anyone i knew was brave enough or wetsuits got good enough to let people challenge some of this Potential down in Van Diemens Land .

Good to see the hypocrisy in the MWCSA.on a shot in the advertiser saying how the comp will not go is one of the hierarchy dropping in on a paddle surfer..camel no less..with his tow buddy..As said in the article..the town actually wanted this comp...and the minority seems to have got their way..The general buzz around home was of excitement..EXcEPT for the paranoid blow-ins!
IMO this will not be the end of a comp(hopefully) happening here. I think the surfers might have felt they have one..but now we have a foot in the door..would've been bad form with so much angst from the dero's..but with a cool, calm, smart style..people saying respect was gained..there is always a next time..Bring it on!!

JEFFIE: HEY hyde dont you think we should stick to rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb.
HYDE: Yeah thats more of our tough style jeffie
JEFFIE: Hyde do you think that sticker company bbong would be stoked that we have their stickers plastered on our car and boat.
HYDE: Jeffie we are the ultimate representative for any company since everyone is well aware of our common antics

Dear Mr West Coast Gland...how did the Wirangu people react to the comp....as I guess from their point of view..all white fellas are Blowins??

So WCG why don't you start your own surfing association that represents the Majority and get the local town people onside thru "the WCA for increasing the amount of surfers locally and up and down the coast..

Just another question....how many Backpackers/accommodation does your area have??

Sorry Dr Jeffie, you crossed the line there. Have a bowl of rhubarb.

after a few years without posting a comment on swellnet its time to post again.just want to clear up this,im not in the photo in the advertiser newspaper as stated by @wcgland. that is a natural foot surfer (which im not) and that is a red board going over the lip. neither of these guys are me or my board. also just in case you thought...the comments made by a "camel" a few months ago on swellnet, are not me, so if anyone thinks those comments were made by me well they are not, that is another camel, whom I do not think I know. as for the surf contest at streaky .well big wave surfers are psycopaths,the true big wave surfers ive ever met, yes theyre crazy. I would hope if I had children that they didn't become big wave surfers.... don't invite them into your town, theyre a bunch of lunatics .

e wrote:

Dear Mr West Coast Gland...how did the Wirangu people react to the comp

My thoughts exactly M-C...the Millers and Scotts would be a good starting point Jeff, shouldn't they get a say in your future plans? How about fellas from the Nawu, Anangu and Gugada peoples too.

I know first hand how the Millers feel about uncontrolled visitors to some of the secluded bays further west, the bays that have already been raped, pillaged and had the cliff and dune zones decimated. Them not being overly stoked is an understatement.

JEFFIE: You all know I just cannot help myself
HYDE: You are a born trouble maker jeffie

jeffie it wasn't CAML...... your next story ......it was JC puling out his own hair ? but he hasn't got any ? stop fibbin.

JEFFIE: YOU know that wcgland really gets his knickers in a twist hey
HYDE: YOU should get a new name like wcgstring jeffie
JEFFIE: Do you think we should try get another sponsor also hyde
HYDE: lets try for a toilet paper company to supply us since we like to have a cry. It will also help kleen up the verbal poo poo jeffie

Jeffree G (caml) . Apologies of mentioning you .
Was just reassuring the Tassie fella ( s l ? ) that we're not yuppies and this discussion has been going on for a few years in this Forum .

And i was refering to you supporting a similar discussion involving Jeff S (WCGL) and Surf etiquette .
Thanks for clearing up for newer posters that the other Camel is not you , and perhaps wrong footing WCG in the meantime .!? ;-)

Anyway , Back to it everyone . I'm sure there should other BIGGER things on your mind in this upcoming week .... Yeeeueuew

Mid West Coast Surf Riders Association.INC
A voice for recreational surfers.

MWCSRA is an association made up from a broad spectrum of surfing community who all have import roles in the community of the west coast and their family's make up large parts of the towns.
We are affiliated with Western Eyre Peninsular Surfriders Association.
There are indigenous surfers who have an ancient connection with the west coast and a deep passion for the coast and want to preserve the uniqueness of this pristine coastline for future generations to enjoy.
In liaising with the indigenous community's they did not and do not support the proposed contest at all.
They have a great concern for what is happing.
We think surfing is now mature enough to talk about what areas should be set aside for recreational use and recognised for that purpose.
MWCSRA is a non for profit organization which consists of all volunteers.
We are united and passionate in our objectives for preserving the coast for all to enjoy into the future.
Best Regards
Andy Joy

No-one is a local at yanners..most the fuckn crew can't surf it without the motorhorse..Most can't surf it with one?
Its just absolutely dumbfounding how some people who never have or will surf there get a say in it..ONLY IN SURFING?!!

WC Gayland are you the only real local on the coast? I would rather be a respected "blow in" than a "local" that every surfer on the whole EP despises. your the laughing stock of the whole coast.

look at every major surf destination in the world that has been over exposed and over run by surfers, cultures and people's way of life has been completely fingered by commercialisation. this ain't some hippy rant bout saving the planet, this sort of thing happens regularly and it's a fact. , whole community's are altered and peoples way of life changed just coz a few people sold out, influxes of surfers and the flow on effect it creates ruins these types of places for life, and don't for one second think that all this couldn't come from holding a surf comp, look what happened in Mexico. this shit is real and it's our way of life your messing with. This place is so incredibly special we must fight to keep it. Learn from every mistake man has ever made on this earth, if something is untouched and beautiful, then leave it the fuck alone.

hey Southey ,no worrys.just had burning ears feeling again so checked swellnet haha. the last time I commented on here a few years back was when you mentioned me on swellnet. dunno who you are but you know plenty enough and you did compliment me one time. I rather you didn't call me jeffree on this forum even tho its my name . and also you said something about the surf etiquette thread on here , I did read that but didn't comment that time even tho I was talked about . while im on this thread ; s-l who talked about mc and rcj exposing shippies, you say that after they exposed it all the locals went and got jetskis and started towing.that sounds like they did it first when nobody else was doing that ,and then others followed . sounds like fair play to me

change channels caml they got jug before and want to keep it rolling

Cheers Caml , I didn't mean to use your name in vain ! ;-)

Life is about choices. One choice which is out of your hands is where you are born. A lot of good people have made the choice to build lives for their families on our coast for various reasons all relevant to their personal profession and beliefs etc. just because one idiot was born here does not give him the right to discredit the views of the majority of us who contribute a shitload back more into the community than that peanut anyway.
If REAL surfing at the bombie is soul arching 20 metres out in front of the barrel then your right we have it all wrong. I hope you seek mental help as you really need it. Have a think when it was your last friendship lasted longer than a month or two.....
You will not destroy our coast and you will continue to be a bitter friendless chest puffing wanker unless you have a good look at yourself and realise what you once loved about our coast is worth preserving!

MC I know you said the South of Vic is welcome to those who are just surfing! Did you give the WestCoast SA guys advice about how to go about educating the FIFO surfers who expose self interests through the media? It's not just about NO to the contest. what would you tell them to say to guys like Mark Mathews for instance, who FIFO and gets photo's ran in mags all the time along this beautiful coast?

UDO just because it's not caml in the post does that make it ok for a westcoastSR member to tow in and drop in on someone?

MWCSRA let your members know that just because they are members it doesn't make it ok to drive jetski's in a line up and drop in on people, even if its NOT caml.

GREENTHUMB I agree with the NO CONTEST hype, but where's all the posts about FIFO pro's? Did yas get stuck into the bra boys when they were in town? or are you just like the other faceless men here and vocal on the internet, Mick and Joel? Kelly? or is their presence and magazine exposure good for the community?

CAML Do you think the tow in drop in is ok because it's not you?
Your call that they did it first is disrespectful.
guys were surfing down here and Andy Campbell was charging and had also towed down here before. Those others came down on a stormy mid - large size swell, with full intention for a look at me, a media team and put it all over the web and magazines and TV. Blowing it for future generations and promoting tow surfing as the way to get exposure in Tasmania! Easy in, Easy shots!
Just like they took credit for Pedra.
The locals had planned a trip here for years. If it wasn't for one local who let the cat out of the bag RCJ and TC wouldn't have known about it. As it turned out stormsurfers promised to foot the bill if the locals took them and promised 60mins exposure to that surfer. The others weren't happy but went along with it as they'd realised stormsurfers were going now they'd found the secret so they let them pay.
Then stormsurfers turn around and claim they made the discovery. And the said surfer had NO tv time!

GONADMAN "if you don't like it fuck off" ?
sounds like there's a lot you don't like, maybe you should ............

NOTYOURMACKIE I like you you must be doing some real surfing out that bommie!
Soul arches the soul surfers on this thread would love the soul arches great to hear you want to preserve this beautiful place help the wcsra realise it's not just the contest that will destroy this coastline, but all the exposure.

Peace.

Hey s-L,Yeah there has been a lot odf discussion over the last few years about how to deal with Comercial exposure for the short term benefit of a few VS what the majority wants.

No Violence,or any physicality....MM has been over there and he gets it......we are in the formative days of recreational surfers standing up for a recreational Culture..

@s-L...FUCK OFF..sounds to me like you think you know everything but more than likely don't...simple eh

@s-L..you are wrong the only thing I don't like is people trying to exploit and commercialise the coast that we all love and respect for what it is ..not what it could be...my family has enjoyed this coast for over 140 years and I want it to stay that way!!!

Well said SI, everybody is sick of these guys making out like they discovered the spot they expose ,sneak around and taking hero pics of someone else,s backyard and always the end of day shot standing around the dead lion drinking beers giving a thumbs up or a shaka, moneys in the bank, better bail home now before we get caught. Wankers

Just a question, any of you west coasters ever surfed anywhere else, ever, then come back home?

yeah mate..but didn't come home with photos, videos etc and send them straight off to a surf mag and claim glory status,which seems to be pretty standard when guys come over here

Or have you ever looked at a surfing picture of any other wave other than your local, & liked it?

think you are a bit off track ..go pull yourself somewere else

surf mags suck,, 10 pages of waves 30 pages of commecials and adverts..waste of money...glorified crap

many Tassie surfers are FIFO regulars at other name breaks around the country and overseas, what's the difference s-l?

@shoredump..most of these guys don't or can't travel..as they are too shit at surfing/paddling to get any waves off anyone else..They know how they have treated blow-ins and wouldn't want to be treated that way..Or they have big drug crops that they have to tend to..How many No Trespassing or trespasser will be shot signs have I seen over here..and there is only one reason for that!
Funny but no-one whinges about the pro's coming over for shots..They talk tough but when they see them in the carpark they all try and 'bro-down' with them, oar howya goin mate-pretty sick ay!
Then a rumor about a comp goes around and all of a sudden ..aw not on 'MY' turf fuck that pfft!!

I believe they call that sour grapes there wackgland bad luck on having the comp squashed at least you know that shit dump was on your side

I did't pick sides I couldn't care less if a comp was there or not.

JEFFIE: Hyde why am I so pethetic?
HYDE: Because it is part of your good and honest nature. Jeffie
JEFFIE: Whats so fun about twisting the truth hyde
HYDE: Well it just good trying to annoy as many people as possible.
JEFFIE: Do you realise that no one really takes notice of us blowing our trumpet any more hyde
HYDE: sounds like you just answered your own question jeffie

Sounds like your getting a bit desperate jiffy. What's wrong mate you got no work for your big toy boat now?
Remember a natural footer from calca way said some stupid things too. What's he up to these days?

Not desperate...not Jiffy..just know and see how and through all the west coast bullshit. The truth is before this comp idea..pretty much everyone has taken a shit in or near one of the carparks..some bury it some don't. no one really gave a fuck until the so called 'corporates' became involved..Now everyone has a pretend soul and the commercialization that you consume everyday isn't cool.Although you love see-ing monnys or wherever in surf mags and your the first to froth over it with your mates..but nah don't want that shit here..pfft!
We all saw Pedra blanca in Tassy on 60mins and surf vids..but let me tell ya..there is at least 10 of those size waves out here in and around the bight/gulf...some are big crazy drops..but some are deadest racetracks!!

There you go again jiffy. Telling us how we act and how we think. Truth is you know fuck all about the rest of the surfers who live on the west coast cause none of us have anything to do with you. Rhubarb rhubarb rhubarb. You are now not a constant source of anger for us but laughter. It's actually really funny watching your antics. I mean who really is stupid enough to break the law and film it and put it on Facebook etc.
I bet mr Linden was really happy you filled him full of so much bullshit about how we would all love him and his comp that he wasted time and money coming over. I am sure your held in high regard there.
Best thing you could do to make some money is get yourself stuffed and mounted then charge the townsfolk a dollar per tomato they throw at you.

gee judgment seems to be your forte WCL.......so other than you ,no-one really cares about the West Coast....

Hmm,just received a copy of Chain of Bays and a video "back to Munda"...seems to me there a hell of a lot of surfers involved Inviromental issues including stopping a short term Comp that would have put more pressure on an already fragile environment.

Hey instead of talking about al ya fantastic big wave spots...just surf em.....unless you need a gallery to share the experience with.....sounds like you need to go and live somewhere we people can see ya every wave.....and then you can keep claiming how great you are.....

not sure how you don't get..." if you asked any recreational surfer how many more surfers would he like to surf with?"....ahhhh not sure over your way...but 99% of surfers would say,"can't we have less surfers?".......

ah which option appeals to you more......" more surfers in the line up so you can share waves or have an audience?"

I didn't realise that Billabong supported illegal tow surfing?
Do you send the footage of you illegally towing your son through paddle surfers to them?
Sounds like someone should?

why just billabong....

if it happened...

its not fiction...

its dangerous

its illegal

why not post it on here.

Sorry MC
But MM and Hippo were just in 2 magazines this year, last few months on the west coast of South Australia. When you said MM gets it, were you refering to NOEXPOSURE in southwest Victoria? because he certainly doesn't get it if he's FIFO in numerous mags as late as last month in SA. This is continous exposure for this coast from one human alone! you support the NO contest, great, how about support for NOEXPOSURE outside of your protected neck of the woods too.
Even last year, they had a jetski in the line up at YB ferrying them inbetween surfers to the take off spot so they could be in the perfect spot to "paddle" it and get the shot.(not ferrying them back out, but actually infront of the peak on the waves they wanted, nearly step offs) laughable, almost, as long as you weren't Caml, thePom or one of the locals.

notyourmackie
I didn't realise mwcsra supported illeagal tow surfing!
Everyone gets on here to abuse ONE person, but everyone is just as bad,
No one from the boardriders association has got on here to deny their members towing through the line up when they suspecting some one dropping in on caml, and it was in the local paper, as reported by this thread.

NOnads man
i don't know everything.
I am bitter about the exposure that went down years ago.
still bitter that some on this thread are loud and proud to save westCoast SA but were part of the demise of Tasmania, and people see through that.
I'm sure we have the same desire to live in an area we grew up in and to have our kids grow up in a similar place that we loved as when we were young.

apple aisle
yes many tassie surfers FIFO.
How many do you know did that for media exposure before RCJ & stormsurfers came down here?
can you name just one?
NO.
So what does that tell everyone on this thread?
well, some just will never get it ................
however, it fully promoted FIFO, "lets blow this shit up". "take the shots get out!"
full stop. that was the start of people thinking beyond enjoyment, its FULL EXPOSURE!
and the mindset to the future generations above average surfers down here was that WE CAN DO THAT.

UDO
Caml
MWCSRA
coastalcare
WCGland
Can anyone say who was towing the bombie dropping in on NOTcaml in the pic?
I know it is annoying
illegal ski's in the line up as in my last sentence to MC above. does this not worry any one this thread?

NO BWWT has been achieved,
are you all going to just lay down and let FIFO EXPOSURES keep increasing?

just locals today
deepsouth. deeper

sl ..if we both have the same desire ,then why heckle me ..I think that you don't know what side youre on as it seems you want to bag people on both sides...as for the fifo exposures there are measures being put in place at the moment to fuck that shit off.One minute you bag scmhuker and the next minute you bag west coast locals?????