Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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Supafreak Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 3:45pm

Worth a look if you have a spare 45 minutes. https://m.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 7 Feb 2021 at 8:30pm

Answer: Yes! You can still get Covid even after 2 shots of Vax

#1 swellnet exclusive Data Set of 1st Covid Vax rollout.
tbb worked towards a sample timeline for Oz rollout...happy to share...(shh!)
Salute swellnet & crew for Oz frontline forums.

(Data Base = *189,000 subjects) Except where given...

19th Dec 2020 - Israel Rollout
25th -No Difference in immunity.
Week 1 - 1st Shot (Shortly After) *12,400 Covid Cases (eg: from *189,000)
30th Dec (Side Effects) (10 days ) med-assist 51 / 650,000
31st Dec 75-88 y'o - ( 4 Vax deaths ) tbb / 2021 Israel Vax deaths..n/a?.
1st Jan 2021 - No Difference
2nd Jan 2021 - Level of Protection is noticed
3rd Jan -33% / 200,000 (Aged 60+) Fall in Infection rate (or 11.5% drop)
3rd Jan - 1st Shot (2 weeks after )*1,410 Covid Cases from *189,000
13-24 days - 51% efficacy
3rd -7th - Drop in Positive rate of 20-40%
4th - Reduction of infections 33-66%
5th-10th - 1st Shot -(2-3 weeks after) *52% > *89% efficacy of 189,000.
19th Jan - 1st Shot - 17% of 1,095 were still infected by Covid.
19th Jan - (Side Effects) 15 Hospital > Side Effects 1,127 / 1.7m
20th Jan - Pregnant Women can be included in Rollout
21st Jan - 2nd Shot (Shortly *After to 11 days > *69 were infected /189,000 )
21st Jan + 4 extra sets of 2x Vaxed Pfizer (Avg : 1 infection / 3,085 in a vaxed community
Preliminary Data shows 90% efficacy

[ Disclaimer ] ( Israel signed a sweetheart handover data deal with Pfizer)
Note: Data was sourced by Israel News Titles & (Various Vax Blogs.

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Supafreak Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 6:15pm

Thanks TBB , do they know yet how long immunity will last ( roughly ) will you need annual or say 10 year booster ? I was reading it’s going to take about 30 months to vaccinate the world .

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truebluebasher Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 2:31am

Cheers Superfreak...thanx for sharing that World Data...

( Above rare timeline will likely stand alone )

Israel wished to share much Data thru the Media to big note itself, by showing off!
I can't see another country be so loose with side effects & death reports.
Even if Israel lock down the data...the crew snatched a free Oz Vax guide. (Score!)
Insanely rare win in this miserly locked up www.

Europe / US / India ooze out random dribble but UK are strictly No data.
[ Computer says No ]
Fuck the Poms! Convict tbb can & will smuggle out some more Vax tables.

(tbb did cover this a bit back...but it is a Hot Question...too easy to recap...
Israel guarantees the immunity back to start of Pfizer Trial....(6 months approx)
UK Nurses claim similar 6 months for natural Covid Strain...highly questionable!

{ 6 months } has long been a Vax Passport Stamp for disease control.
For - Jabs / Visas / Diplomas / Licences / Trials / Subs / Contracts / Warranty / Tax .
Very few lucky Nations are confident of locking in a 6 month passport for 2021.

Israel claims they have 6 months International Approved VIP Quarantine Bypass!
1) That's a straight out lie to win over VIP voters in March Election.
2) That's a straight out lie to speed up Vax before [ Kill the Poor ] Poll Boost.

AstraZeneca is not so confident their Vax can ward off Mutants, but won't say so!
They're TWEAKING original Toxic Shock to deep fry our Brainz for the Mutants.

Hawkey would just tweak his ear & scull our stale 54million Lite Vax middies.

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Supafreak Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 3:28am

Thanks again for answering TBB the reason I asked is because when I looked there was no definite answer and just wondering if things had changed . This is a link I posted earlier from I think ?? a doctors blog in Austria and his personal experience with covid and his antibodies .

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Supafreak Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 9:55am

I copied this from Craig Kelly Facebook page , his words not mine . UK TO RUN IVERMECTIN TRIAL

What have they been waiting for ?

Why only now, 6 months since after Australia’s Professor Tom Borody announced to the world that Ivermectin + Zinc + Doxycycline was a highly effective treatment ?

And how long will this trial take, is this just a delaying tactic to avoid the inevitable?

Or is it an arse-covering exercise to create an excuse for more than 6 months inaction when all’s they wanted to consider was a planning to inject everyone?

And interesting to see that Oxford are involved - will they wait until people are in the late stages of the illness, not combine it with Zinc, and load people up with potentially toxic overdoses (6 times the recommended dose) exactly like they did for Hydroxychloroquine - and then claim ‘’Hey - proof it doesn’t work” ?

And why run a trial on Ivermectin when our ABC asserts it’s all ‘’misinformation’’ and ‘Professor’ Anthony Albanese claims Ivermectin is a ‘’quack idea’’ peddle by ‘’conspiracy theorists’’ ?

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Supafreak Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 10:52am

Yeah saw that one the other day udo , definitely a campaign out to get Kelly , with ivermectin now being used in many countries and UK starting trials it will be interesting to say the least where this goes. The US is also divided with some states like Texas prescribing ivermectin and others not . So many mistakes already made everywhere. At the end of the day ivermectin has never killed anyone, it is after all listed as a essential medicine by WHO

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I focus Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 11:12am

Supafreak haven't read up on ivermectin but I do know Kelly is a fu(king dog

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seaslug Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 11:33am

and his fat cunt mate, the member from manila, George Christensen

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Supafreak Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 11:52am

Yeah I’m no fan of Kelly or any politician as I’ve stated before but on some issues I do agree with them , with Kelly I agree about ivermectin , with scumo I agreed about not rushing a vaccine as we weren’t in the emergency position like UK or US . What I find difficult still is our media likes to talk about cases of covid , lockdowns , border closures etc etc but doesn’t really talk about what the world is trying as far as treatment goes . Or talk about what Clancy and Borody have discovered. Our medical chiefs need a shake up in my opinion .

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Supafreak Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 3:40pm

@udo , here’s Kelly’s response to the link you provided , I’m not defending Kelly he’s definitely not my choice to promote ivermectin and anything trump promoted copped a flogging from the press , yet Fauci said remdesivir should be given to those in the placebo group if it was shown to work to save lives . Remdesivir costs about $3000 per treatment and has been found to be ineffective however it’s still on Australian list of covid treatments. Annway heres Kelly’s response to your link. MORE SHOCKING REPORTING - MISLEADING THE PUBLIC WITH FAKE NEWS & HALF-TRUTHS.

FIRSTLY, I’m glad the fact that I’ve been writting to our Health bureaucrats is now on the public record, because they now can’t plead ignorance. They’ve been aware of the facts all along.

SECONDLY, the very first sentence in this article is fake news. All the ‘’credible evidence’’ - that’s 33 out 33 published studies on Ivermectin, and 26 out of 26 of early treatment with HCQ - ALL demonstrate that both Ivermectin & HCQ is highly effective.

As Emeritus Professor Robert Clancy AM, DSC, PHD, MB, BS, FRAP, FRCP(A) - a member of the Australian Academy of Science’s Covid-19 Expert Database - and who has been awarded an ‘Order of Australia’ for services to Immunology and Medicine wrote only this week;

‘’An impressive data base has more recently accumulated that strongly supports the use of HCQ and/or Ivermectin. Their use in concert with vaccines can NO LONGER BE DENIED; indeed this is the ONLY SCIENCE-BASED OPTION.’’

THIRDLY, the claim that ‘’all major reputable medical organisations recommend against their (Ivermectin & HCQ) use. Is untrue. It’s fake news, deceiving readers of the this article.

The leading medical organisations in the two most populous countries in the world, China & India recommend Hydroxychloroquine/Chloroquine to treat Covid. And the peak US body, the National Institutes of Health last week lifted their recommendation against the use of Ivermectin, freeing doctors in the US to use it.

FOURTHLY, this article misleadingly describes studies such as those published in the American Medical Journal of Medicine by people of the caliber of Professor Peter A. McCullough as ‘’fringe studies’’.

This is also a racist & imperialist attitude, as it dismisses studies from places like India, Turkey and Middle East as ‘’fringe studies’’ based on race and nationality.

FIFTHLY, the headline is misleading. Our health bureaucrats are NOT Australia’s ‘top doctors’. They are bureaucrats. Australia’s ‘top doctors’ are those out working in private practice and seeing patients everyday.

And I have contacted Australia’s top doctors and also top doctors from around the world (including doctors that are actually treating hundreds of COVID patients) and these doctors have all privately told me that both Ivermectin & HCQ work and will save lives.

SIXTH, the assertion that I ‘’promote misinformation’’ is a lie. Published studies in medical journals (many of them peer-reviewed) and expert medical opinion from around the world that I have posted on my FB are not ‘’misinformation’’. It’s is Business Insider spreading misinformation.

SEVENTH, as for ‘’continuing to promote it’’ - when new facts and new studies and further expert opinion was published, I posted these to my FB page. For as they say, when the facts change, I change my opinion. What do you do sir ?

In short, this article published in Business Insider, is a disgrace, it’s chock full of fake news, half-truths and misinformation.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 1:37pm

TGA approves Vaccine on Covid Invasion Day Oi! Oi! Ouch!
Pfizer Vax proves less effective by the day to ward off the new dominant strains.
However each new strain retains N501Y tip mutation as a common Vax link.
B117- Whinging Mutant Pom (50%) 60 countries
B 1.351- Zulu Mutant (80%) 20 countries
P1- WSL Brazzo Burn (42%) > In Europe
L452R - (Scandifornia) 25% California
Note : Vaxes are well wild & need upgrades with zero time for full retesting.
In fact the Tests are already well behind the next variant as it Monsters the host.
This mad max Vax Lab is our Flagship...smashed up & running outta fuel. (shh!)

Pfizer Vaccine ingredients + Preparation Diagrams.
Company Warning on Side Effects > PEG 2000 / Polysorbate 80-Moderna

Low Dead space needles could suck up an extra Pfizer Vax Dose.
Pfizer was charging by vial but now bill extra dose & Needles are outta stock!
So now each Nation pays for a wasted shot of vax they can't use so (18%) gets tossed.
Because of that...we now have a Vax Shortage for Big Pharm to extort the price.

No.1 swellnet exclusive (ultra rare) data set on the End of the World Vax Rollout

Key {RIP} = Deaths (Call it what you like!)
# Severe Reaction + Reaction + H Hospital
*Data anomaly (examples)
Restrictive Trials / Pre excused Deaths + Data Block + Vax Stalls +2nd Vax rollout

UK- 8th Dec Only- 2# / 50,000 Vax Warning! [ *UK block all Vax rollout data.]

US [ 2 data sets ]
14th-23rd Dec { 1+ RIP } 21# - 4,393 Reactions + 175H / 1,893,360 (cdc report)

14th Dec-20th Jan { 44 RIP } 45# / 6m > (Compare 15# / 4m Moderna)
Canada 13th Dec-9th Jan - 21# / 120,000 cont > 15th Jan - 90# / 150,000

Israel [2 data sets] (+ Exclusive Complete Pfizer rollout Data set above)
20th Dec-30th Dec - 51# / 650,000 cont > 19th Jan { 4 RIP } 1,127# (15 H) / 1.7m

Europe 27th Dec -20th Jan { 71 RIP } / *8m approx (24th Jan-Eurovax 8,572,700)

Note: Vax Rollout is extremely Politicized & real Data is buried more each day.
Extra Vaxes will see data controlled & graded & wiped by Govts as now!
Deaths / Airlines / Mutants / Tournament spikes all disappear by each weekend.

Germany 27th Dec-15th Jan { 10 RIP } 51# + 6 (Shock) 325 reactions / 842,000
France 4th-15th Jan { 5 RIP } 139# / 585,664 > 4th- 24th Jan { 9 RIP } / 800,000
Poland 2nd-14th Jan- 50# +1H / 338,000
Switzerland 14th-21st Jan { 5 RIP } 16# + 26 Reactions / 170,000
Romania 9th-15 Jan { 1 RIP } *358 (+ Med)# + 235 reactions / 167,612
Sweden 3rd -20th Jan { 13 RIP } 136# / 147,000
Ireland 4th -19th Jan- 81# / 122,000
Netherlands 6th-16th Jan - 2# + 98 reactions / 47,000
Norway 27th Dec-15th Jan { 33 RIP } / 20,000 > 9# +7H / 33,000
Estonia 27th Dec- 11th Jan { 2 RIP } (*14 [+] Covid?) 86 reactions +1H / 18,275
Iceland { 7 RIP } / 8,000
Bulgaria 29th Dec- Jan - 4 reactions / 5,000

*{ RIP } (No Details) Denmark / Spain / Portugal / Finland
* (No Data Details) UK / Denmark / Italy / Spain / Malta / Greece / Belgium

Chix were more than happy with Greek PM to reveal his Hairy Vax Medallion...

Adverse Reaction Report Form Sample (Ireland)

UAE - General Side Effects 1/100
Singapore - Severe / Reactions (*Panel will grade adverse events before Publicity)
UK is also taking this approach....(Interesting as some Nations see Political value)
Swiss are also onto this....(Govt's wanna cover the arses with all the side effects)

Pfizer vaccine side effects (World's Largest Test Sample)
1 / 10 (Site swelling-redness, Headaches, Chills, Fever, Nausea, Lethargy, Muscle + Joint Pain.
1 / 100 (Feeling Unwell / Enlarged Lymph Nodes)
1 / 608 (Nasty Vax Reaction -max sample 3,143,247 = Total 5,167
1 / 1000 ( One side of Face Droops )
1 / 6,211 ( H / #) Adverse Reactions-max Sample 15,900,000 =Total 2,560
1 / 124,281 {RIP} Death -max Sample 15,908,000 = Total 128 (see also unaccounted deaths)

Note Pfizer needs $1,000/day ICU + 30min / 4m2 kill switch for at risk Vaxers ( Stage 1)
Medical experts are saying a Hospital is the only place that can support Pfizer vaccine.
As said...this is Pfizer's Premium Range, that only gets bastardized more with each variant.
No magic potion! Wheel out the Master Chef to take on the Mutants in next week's episode.

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Sickaz Tuesday, 26 Jan 2021 at 3:14am

Tbb, I for one am grateful for your tireless data summaries, and the dry humour just makes them better. Keep up the good work.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 26 Jan 2021 at 4:33am

I would have to agree , TBB efforts are outstanding , I don’t always understand what he’s saying but I eventually figure it out lol . On a different note the trials to get underway in the UK are way overdue and I wouldn’t like to be in the placebo group . Not sure how they are conducting this but hopefully they follow the formula of Dr.Borody and FLCCC.

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Craig Tuesday, 26 Jan 2021 at 7:29am

Wow TBB, great research, will go through it when I have some time.

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san Guine Tuesday, 26 Jan 2021 at 12:05pm

I am looking forward to having the Pfizer vaccine either late Feb or early March.

What the anti-vaxxers don't realise, is that despite the fact that I will have had the vaccine, if exposed (and I am at a higher risk of this) I could still become an asymptomatic carrier of COVID 19, and thus a potential spreader.

No matter how vociferously you may be opposed to vaccines, COVID 19 does not discriminate.

Vax to the max, baby!

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Supafreak Tuesday, 26 Jan 2021 at 2:09pm

Yep you’re right san guine , that’s why nothing much will change for awhile , we will still have to social distance keep up hygiene ( always a good thing anyway ) wear masks in crowded spaces , etc etc , it’s why I’m hoping ivermectin gets the approval , it will help in opening things up more quickly and let the world breathe again . I don’t know if people understand the importance of a early treatment for covid as vaccination of the world is 2-3 years away that’s the reality.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 3:22am

Cheers crew....Oz day Vax Tool box awarded to each!

Vax disasters at India Lab / Norway Aged Care whilst gifting poor nations their Vax.
Fair dinkum Oz Day Awards from crew to India & Norway...(The real Vax Leaders!)

Pfizer / Moderna / AstraZeneca don't track their own vaccines online...(Bizarre!)
Govt's or Health Authorities also won't track the vaxes globally for the people.
How secure are Media Vax Trackerz...("One might last a month or so!")
All different Vaxes Data is mixed as one, none are tracking individual Vaxes.
Only after a bad batch of deadly brew will Govts insist on solo Vax Tracking

{ Vaccine Trials Tracker } (solo vax 'distribution' is as good as gets)
RAPS (Vaccine Pre Tracker - Matches Vax to Rollout Country)
(Features) * 56 Vax Trial Phase Rank / Vax Types (links) / Vax by Nation

Covid 19 (Vaccine Tracker)

New York Times (Vax Tracker) Free Access > Paywall links
(Features) *Multi Vax Reviews + Trial Guidelines + Phases of Vaxes

Quick Vax Trax (Nothin' 2 Fancy)
Financial Times (Global Tally / Leaders Board )
(Features) *Big Typeface Global Score + * Top Ten + *Doses delivered / date

Ourworld in Data ~ (1/100 Vax Administrator)
(Features) *All Rollout Dates || Slide Rule + *International Vax Leader Board

Datawrapper (Vax count + Population %)
(Features) *international' Vax Count down to 1,000's + *Percentage Vaccinated

Bloomberg ( Vax Tracker - Maps / Graphs 1/100 + Nat Total )
(Features) *World / US Maps + *Delivery/Doses/Dates/Coverage + Vaxes timeline

(Team USA Vax Trackerz )
Washington Post
(Features) *1Dose % / 2 Doses % / Total % (Note: Different Vaxes pool as one tally)

Time (Features) State Shipping / Administered by 100 + Total US Dose %
Of interest - Stats tally Vaxes individually for Shipping but mash the vaxes.
tbb explained how each new vax corrupts civic minded stats.(Already a mess!)
CDC : (Features) *Dual Vax Nat' Tally (Not state) + Care facility Nat' Ratio

eg: Rare Dual Vax Tracker (Shows Moderna overtaking Pfizer) in Daily tally.
This is important, as it shows where the President is saving time with less fussy vax!
Oz needs similar with States & regions slight delayed readout to spot bad brews.

Vax Trax Graveyard
*Yuppies were Here! OMG! WTF were you thinking!
Who Trail Map....kinda does somethin' I think?

(Fierce Pharma) As name suggests / Yuppie Geeks that fiercely tell in straight...
Daily blog for Vax geeks rechecking dates for prices / volumes / data % sets
tbb so wants to hate geek's nerdy blog, but those bullet point stats...OMG... Drool!

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 1:20pm

[ Correction ]
tbb originally tabled [ 1 vax death ] in US ( This seemed "well" under represented )
All agree! Just say Aye!

US "National" vax data is "Only part reported" by CDC...(Deaths! Wot Deaths?)
3rd party research has revealed US 44 deaths as of 15th Jan 2021 (re: cdc stats)

Can thank Sam Fazeli (Pharm reporter) for revealing US 44 Vax deaths anomaly!

*tbb has reconfigured the above table / tallies to include reported 44 US deaths.
*Deaths are reported & recorded here as they were by relevant Health Authorities.
*France: "Observations of Death in people who had the vax!" Not yet denounced!

Crew can see, this now realistically reflects Vax stats & restores ratio to readout.

swellnet crew's support warrants a guarantee for the real deal...Take a bow!
swellnet exclusive timelines limit links to anomalies (As here)...just yell for odd links!

Order of the day suggests that UK are hiding Vaccine Deaths for whatever reason.
tbb hasn't given up on UK stats...(Open to any alt UK search suggestions!)
Newer dual vax 'combo tallies' are fast disenfranchising civic minded Rollout Stats.
Other Aussie pre rollout vax stats > Moderna / AstraZeneca will be more contrived.

Oz civic groups would do well to fight for solo tracking of each Vax for best health.
Bolstering 100% real time Health assurance for best Vaccines per target group.
Huge benefits include timetabling response resource to age group per Vax type.
Crew would consider such medical practise as basic but we're yet to read of such!

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Supafreak Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 8:34pm

I really don’t understand Australian journalists , with the reports coming in from around the world on ivermectin and now UK and South Africa doing trials, plus people getting court orders in some states of the US to allow ivermectin be used as a treatment even though NIH has lifted its not recommended status. Australian journalist are more interested in going after a politician than what the information is that he’s been posting. And when a journalist asked professor Paul Kelly about ivermectin his answer was simply there is no evidence yet evidence has been flowing in for the last 3 months and 2 of our best professors recommend it . Unbelievable.

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Supafreak Thursday, 28 Jan 2021 at 7:33pm

South Africa changes its position , UK will be next , wonder what Australia will do .


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truebluebasher Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 10:45am

supafreak is on same wavelength as NSW Health...
{ Ivermectin Bumper Xmas Edition }
This is well stocked raw concise in-house / Public share Ivermectin Compendium.

August Ivermectin edition, was possibly a one off, as it's not on Aug' Library Shelf.
tbb double checked Dec intro, it is a thing, so if yer keen then keep an eye out for it!
Aug edition may also have nonchalantly supplemented the Dec Edition?
Now a possible Series - looking at a 3rd edition...due to 3 current Ivermectin trials.

tbb will re-gift Part 2 Ivermectin NSW Xmas Bumper Edition.
23rd Dec 2020 [ Covid -19 Critical Intelligence Unit ] PDF 18 pages of 32 Titles.

Here's the Main NSW Library Site... (Current Titles - Vaxes / Variants / Ivermectin)

Key to the Motherlode is so simple, just click boring [ Daily Evidence Digest ]
Ok! Sure it sounds nerdy like Case Numbers but no, it's not, It's everything but!

Covid Cruizerz lazy Alt link to NSW Top Secret Covid Timeline Vault. (Too easy!)

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Supafreak Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 5:36am

Thanks again TBB for information , the trials in UK must be tough on the researchers knowing the placebo group could get very sick and possibly die , I can see why Borody didn’t want that type of trial back in August. Doctors take an oath and it wouldn’t be something you would want on your conscience.

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Supafreak Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 5:10pm

I believe the real tragedy is that Australia didn’t conduct its own trials when Victoria had 800+ cases a day . The next piece is copied from CK Facebook page IVERMECTIN : THE RECOGNITION SHOULD GO TO AUSTRALIA

Although Professor Marik has written more than 400 peer-reviewed journal articles, and has 80 book chapters and authored four critical care books, and has been cited more than 35 000 times in peer-reviewed publications - it’s not correct for this South African media outlet to claim he discovered Ivermectin for use against Covid.

That credit should go to Australia, and brilliance of our Australian medical researchers.

For it was an Australian researcher that first discovered Ivermectin kills Covid in a test tube.

And it was Australia’s internationally renown Professor Tom Borody that first discovered the ivermectin ‘’triple therapy’’, which announced to the world back in August.

But in a tragedy for both Australia and the world, these brillant Australian medical researchers where threatened, mocked and silenced by our health bureaucrats.

History will record these bureaucrats conduct as one the most catastrophic & gravest errors in our nation’s history.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 5:56pm

Anyone heard of ivermectin? What's peoples thoughts? Does it work or not?

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Check this out info


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Supafreak Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 7:31pm

@indo , if you have some spare time this video is from Professor Clancy , ivermectin is only mentioned briefly at the end and this video is mainly about the history of diseases in Australia and how we dealt with them and how long the repercussions lasted. It also talks of the effects on indigenous Australians and how many died , his comments on government and media from then are interesting and he goes on to explain covid. Not sure if you have looked at any of my links as I posted this one a few pages back . I found it educational but you may already know most of what he has to say . When I first started looking at ivermectin I looked at who the people were that were writing about it and what their credentials were . It’s a topic that is currently ignored by Australian media but is hot topic elsewhere around the world. The current trials in UK hopefully will give better answers , I also hope they look at the combined therapy that Professor Borody and FLCCC recommend , not just ivermectin on it’s own. If this treatment takes off it has the potential to be a real game changer and along with a vaccine a quicker recovery for the world.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 8:11pm

Ha ha Supafreak I was just taking the piss but in a nice way so dont bite me :D

I just keep seeing the topic pop up everyday on the front page, but thats cool, we all have our pet topics.

I dont have a view either way on the topic, but did read a few of the links etc you shared.

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indo-dreaming Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 8:13pm


You still coming to Dandenong market tomorrow?

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Supafreak Friday, 29 Jan 2021 at 8:29pm

Yeah no problem indo , I’m guilty of flogging the topic, if it does take of everywhere you will get to Indonesia sooner rather than later

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AstraZeneca in the Headlines.(tbb's rush release)

* Oxford collect all follow up AZ data from studies...
* AZ to reconfigure Brew for Mutants (OZ says their Brew can defeat any Mutant?)
* AZ -UK (secured) but Belgium cutting EU supplies by 60%( 80m >31m doses)
See Brexit deal happened mid AZ Vax Contract (UK was part of Europe!) Now Not!
* Germany / South Korea temporarily ban approval for AZ (65+y'o) Vax
(Citing Tests) AZ 8% > 56-69y'o + 3.5% > 70+ (vs) Pfizer 41% 56-85y'o

*EMA is said to Authorise AZ vax on Friday (today)
Crew can read that Big players are extorting Elderly Approval to lock in supplies.
More Politics than truth as AstraZeneca is killing young mid age vaxers in India.
tbb will guarantee you won't read about that painful truth in world / OZ media!

Australia AZ News
*Early Feb - AZ approval is expected
*Late Feb - Pfizer > Oz Phase 1 Rollout (exclusive swellnet Rollout data above)
*Late Feb - EU / AZ withhold Oz Phase 2 rollout from 3.8m to 1.2m doses
*Late March - AZ - Oz made brew 2m rollout

UK - AstraZeneca (Side Effects) Data from UK MHRA (Massaged Data Sets)

Following reactions are more Common in 56+ y'o
2/3 Arm (67%) Pain, redness, itching, swelling bruising..
(body) Feeling unwell, Fatigue, chills, Headache, Nausea, Joint & Muscle pain.
1/2 Chills (50+%)
1/6 Fever (18%)
1/10 (site) Lump
(Body) Fever, Vomiting, Flu symptoms, Temp, Sore throat,Runny nose,Cough, Chills.
1/100 - Dizzy, Ab' Pain, Enlarged Lymph nodes, Sweating, Rash, Loss of Appetite.

UK Yellow Report Card

21st Jan - 5 dead as India Lab catches on Fire (AstraZeneca Lab is unaffected)
24th Jan - India donates Vax to 11 Countries.

Covishield Aka... Astrazeneca India rollout
( Rollout 1 )
16th > 19th Jan (580 Adverse reactions) + 7 Hospital / 381,000 vaxes
AstraZeneca Vax 5 deaths in 1st 3 days {RIP} (India)
Man aged 52 died from cardiopulmonary failure
Man aged 43 died from cardiopulmonary failure.
Ward Man aged 46 died from breathlessness
Doctor aged 58 died from Heart Attack.
Woman Health worker aged 55 died a sudden death.
AstraZeneca Deaths 1 / 76,200

( Rollout 2 )
16th Jan - (19th Jan - Covaxin slowly features more in Indian rollout)
16th Jan > 27th Jan ( 9 died ) 6 men / 3 Women aged 27-56 y'o (All AZ Covishield)
Deaths were 1-5 days from Vax + all were Cardio / Brain Stroke.
Add to that the 16 in Hospital / 2,328,779 vaxes > 27th Jan.
Covax has bizarrely & awkwardly dampened the high AstraZeneca death rate...

Medicos say Post Mortem? (vs) Govt says roll up yer sleeves...Next! Lollipop! Next!

Let's pray Brendan & Greg Hunt are watching this episode....who here thinks so?
Recap: Covishield is AstraZeneca AZD 1222...exactly the same as Oz / AZ vaccine.
Yes! These Indian deaths are from same brew as our better believe it...

(tbb invites UK to share their miracle ZERO side effect vax stats?)
If UK are hiding as many deaths as every other country, then they must come clean.
Oz are brewing AZ vax & we have a right to know if we need more pine boxes.
Worldwide Vax rollout has turned to shit as anti vaxers queue up for Jobseeker.
No one's expecting miracles just plain open honesty & humanity wins vax support.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 2:46am

28th Jan 2021 / US - *130 Vaccine deaths / 23.5m doses {RIP}
Represents first shot *6% > 100% vax trajectory is 2,250 US deaths after(1 shot)
2 shot 100% rollout = 4,500 US vax deaths.(If nothing changes!)

Brings tbb no joy to reveal more deaths (Shocking to do the maths)
US data reflects - Aust' 23.5m Adult / Child Population (2x doses ) = 260 deaths
Australian's health is often compared to US...should we expect similar.

Vaxes are the same as ours & considered the best & also rollout worldwide.
Oz / Govt media admittedly downplay & delay cases & o/s deaths by up to 80%.
Question? What vax death toll is acceptable during a Pandemic?
Answer: Govt's point outside the window & you automatically roll up yer sleeve!

In a full rollout month, world vax would easily strike off (1,000 Frontline Medicos?)
Who here thinks we'll read about that in yer Sunday Papers...not on yer life.
tbb has reported & respected Doctor's deaths here but truly have lost all count.
US (6% / 130) trajectory > 75% of World Pop' x 2 vax = 66,400 vax deaths worldwide
Again! That's only if World continues to accept Emergency Vaccines as they are.

Not trying to shock, as tbb could've used Norway 33 deaths low% for more Horrific effect.
tbb is a realist & as such will give an apology if this equally disturbs others.
Each vaccine can be boosted to fight Mutants or weakened to rid side effects? (Choose!)

Brighter US news...
20th Jan 2021 Prez Biden (inauguration) 100 shots / 100 days
24 Jan - Sky News: "Democrats are screwing up Vaccine Rollout"

Did they bitch too soon!

[factcheck] Random News site + re: swellnet Vax Trackers (above)
29th Jan 1.2m vax / day (President pushes for 1.5m vax / day)

29th Jan (pm) 1.25m vax / day 29% weekly increase (Washington Post ) re: above

30th Jan 1.30m vax / day (increasing) (Bloomberg) re: above

That's 1 random check + 2 vax tracker wraps ... (Seems honest : Joe is delivering!)

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Sickaz Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 6:04am

Bill Maher has been in good form.

This interview with Heather Heying and Brett Weinstein about the origin of Covid 19, namely the possibility of it being created in a lab, plus a brief but clear description of how the vaccines work (including mRNA) is worth a listen. Heather and Brett are both former professors and they know what they are talking about.


I have mentioned these two on here a few times and also Brett’s brother Eric Weinstein, who is a champion (podcast ‘The Portal’). Heather and Brett have a great podcast - the dark horse. A lot of false information out their about these three, mostly because they are brave enough to speak uncomfortable truths... like it is POSSIBLE that the COVID virus was man made in a lab.

Anyway good on Bill Maher for having them on and being open/accepting to what they put forward,

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Supafreak Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 3:49pm

There is a vaccine for this pandemic , it’s called food . This year is only 1 month old

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truebluebasher Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 1:30pm

Sickaz thanks so much for sharing insightful on point Video.

270,000 hits in under 24hrs for last years snowballing fake conspiracy.
US Talk Show explores Covid Lab Origin & it's effects...(Bravo)
Worldly TV Host asks all the right Questions...this is Light years ahead of Oz TV.

Weakly Geek Leaks would easily rate #1 who's stopping that?

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Sheepdog Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 2:05pm

U know where u can stick your vaccination

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lostdoggy Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 2:06pm

In your deltoid?

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udo Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 3:34pm

Nothing to do with Covid - A Hookworm vaccine

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Supafreak Sunday, 31 Jan 2021 at 5:10pm
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truebluebasher Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 2:57am

Pedigree Lab Rats tossed overboard from the WHO Life-raft.
Lab Leak origin is reality for Nobel frontline Vax makers...combating the virus code.
tbb is in no rush to tell proud Aussie Vax maker Nick to not tread on PM's toes.
PM is already wiping out Nick's Oz made Vaxine due to his big sciency lab words.
If Nick had never gone down to the basement, we'd all be shootin' up Oz brew!
These whistle blowers cop the same backlash from WHO GOF Big Pharm bullies.
Yes! All our Mainstream Science / Govt Organisations number as these bullies!

Richard Ebright reviewed & warned several times of GOF outbreak from WIV lab.
Ebright also defends our world from WHO's #1 Dr No DASZAK. (re: Covid -19)

Explanation on Bio Weapon @ Wuhan Military Games Covid 'like' outbreak.
Oct 2019 -11,000 athletes got a 'Mask + Temp' welcome to a desolate Wuhan.

(2020 Nobel Prize Lab Leakerz)
26th Jan - (US) News! Chinese Bio Weapon.
10th -24th Feb: WHO (Only 3/25 visited Wuhan) Never checked Lab or Markets.
Today! Yes year on... WHO decide to visit the Haunted Markets. Wow!
16th Feb -(China) 2 Biologists admit to Lab Leak.
16th Feb -(US) Sen Tom Cotton "Picks up on the Bio weapon-Leak" A hard sell.

2nd March - (Taiwan) Prof.F. Chi-tai (NTU) "Lab Leak!"
17th April - (Australian) Prof. Nikolai Petrovsky (NP) (Vaxine) "Human-Link!"
20th April - (France) Prof. Luc Montagnier (NP) "Covid has HIV/Malaria genome!"

23rd April -(Russia) Prof. Peter Chumakov "Lab Leak!"
23rd April - (Russia) Yuri Deigin: "From the Lab!"

30th April - (US) Trump "The Lab" (Not telling!)
7th May - (Australia) PM "Lab Theory is counterproductive to my Wet Market lie!"
2 months earlier, OZ lead scientists said 'PM's Wet Market was a month late'...durr!
1st June - (Australia) Prof. David Walker(LaTrobe) "Uniquely adapted to Humans!"
2nd June - (Israel) Dr R. Shemesh (Covid Treatments) "More Likely Lab!"
10th June (Norway/UK) Biovacc -19 "Our Vax addresses man-made Covid insert."
2nd July (Norway) Cont... Sorensen / Dalgleish / Surrud "It came from the Lab!"
6th July - (UK) Sir R. Dearlove (Former MI6 #1) "Lab breach!"
11th July - (Hong Kong) Dr Li-Meng Yan (China-Lab + Sci-MSM +WHO - all in bed!)
6th Dec - (Australia) C.Butler (ANU) "Lab Theory is Plausible!"

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Supafreak Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 5:00am

You have certainly been busy TBB , haven’t red all yet but certainly will . On my favourite topic it seems most of the world ( except Australia ) is getting on board now with the trials.

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truebluebasher Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 12:51pm

Supafreak - early 2020 Ebright's ethics were a beacon (vs) WHO's sordid edict.
From May .... tbb's lab timelines naturally follow known source whichever direction.
If we were to follow WHO we'd have our heads up our arses > Farts spread Covid!

Here's a perfect example of surfing today's Covid Origin headlines...
Today's WHO Team of 10 @ Wet Market Conspiracy (Exclusive)
YouTube Vid seems boring & innocent enough (Lets count the numbered cars)

Note casual randoms + not a Hazmat Suit in sight...(Most Un-China like thing ever?)
Pilot > Buses # 1/2/3 rollout
(Sneaky Part Door Close special effect) Why even do that...just messing with us!
Pilot Car > Cars 4/5/6 (Sneaky Cam Edit?) >7/8/9 (Hey where's # 10/11?) odd #12.
Now watch as rear Motorcade Pilot Car position is surrendered to random blowins?
That's not how diplomatic security works...we all know that!
China & WHO billboard conspiracy....
(Dodgy Door reveal + Cam Edit + Missing # Cars 10 / 11 + worst Chinese security)
WHO Team of 40 huddle to reopen Pandora's box to release The Curse of Covid II.

State of Origin
(Wiki) No world Covid Case has been be traced back or linked to the Wet Markets.

Initial 'Australian Covid transfers' came from Iran & not one spread from China.
25th Jan - 27th Feb - China > Oz (18 self isolated cases > 0 reports of Oz spread)
1st Feb Oz bans Chinese Flights (Not one Chinese infection in Oz)

28th Feb -31 March - Iran > Oz (1 > 4558 - 6,000's super spread)
Oz / NZ Govts got caught out as (Iran) first openly exported Covid to our shores.
Australia's first Covid transmissions were from Iranians to Australians

PM bans Chinese flights & Wet Markets without 1 Aussie being infected by WuFlu.
Just saying, if you're wondering why China returned Aussie you know!

Go Go Gladys invites WA Mutants over for Lunch...(That should read 'as' Lunch!)
Dutto: "My Mutant mange is to die for!"

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Sickaz Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 3:07pm

There is a problem currently whereby people with ideas, information, or opinions that are not popular are quickly labelled as being ‘conspiracy theorist’ or believing false information as a way of shutting down the discourse by employing condescension and belittling the credibility or intelligence of the other side. A problem of widespread ad hominem.

Months ago the lab leak possibility was generally labelled a conspiracy theory and the discourse shut down, or sent underground.

Same goes for Invermectin, I can’t remember who was posting about it months ago, could have been you Superfreak and I think that I remember Shortenism doing it... and being derided and dismissed as a fool who believes false information or ‘conspiracy theories’.

A discourse lacking the current readiness to shut down anyone who has fringe ideas as fools who believe anything, would result in a better and more enlightening conversation, albeit a more challenging one.

Good on you to those willing to publicly consider the possibility of things that often invite ad hominem attacks or are labelled as conspiracy theories. The term ‘conspiracy’ has been bastardised (like so many others). Being open to possibility is a lot different from believing something wholesale. Like Tbb says, “tbb's lab timelines naturally follow known source whichever direction.” I wish more people would follow his lead. Like the WHO.

Anyway SW is in a hard lockdown for five days, stinking hot and meant to be surfing in ace conditions next two days while kids were back at school but alas, the holidays just got a week longer at least. Swift, clear and solid action from Mark McGowan, hopefully a week will be all.

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Sickaz Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 3:29pm

Not encouraging conspiratorial thinking, just an awareness and openness to considering all possibilities before preemptively shutting them down.

These guys outline it better than me, my old mates. ‘How do we come back to a shared reality’, if anyone is interested, 5 min

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derra83 Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 3:25pm

Shortenism is currently issuing us all an "enlightened conversation" in another thread.

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Sickaz Monday, 1 Feb 2021 at 3:30pm

Ha go shortenism, sometimes I wonder if he is trolling but he is good for the laughs.