Do you like or hate Donald Trump, and why?

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dimitrios10 started the topic in Tuesday, 29 May 2018 at 5:10pm

I am curious if you guys like DonaldTrump, or do you hate him?

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 8:06am

Blindboy

The Republicans are bad enough but the way the Democrats have behaved over Kavanaugh dredges a new low.

almost to your level....crypto-lite

....I wonder how you and some others deal with the cognitive dissonance you must have from constantly playing racist, sexist, ageist, abusive identity politics while constantly calling the kettle black.

The left are so wrong it's kinky.

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Blowin commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 8:14am

Great point regarding the use of “ white “ as derogatory, Sypkan.

It seems to be employed most heartily by those who police the rules of identity politics the most stridently. Guysmiley threw it out there yesterday just before getting his panties in a twist and posting his SJW fetish porn video. If it was intended as irony it was a pisser .

These gents police the letter of the law without mercy whilst remaining ignorant to the spirit of it.

Don’t get me started on Uplift . Maybe he’s exempt because he’s clinically insane ?

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 8:22am

100% when you use phrases like Black or White all you are doing is focussing on differences and division. (especially when used in a negative type context)

I don't think we will truely get anywhere when approach things like that, only true way to move forward anywhere is to look at what we have in common not the differences.

That doesn't at all mean that you ignore racism or ignore wrong doings of the past or that whatever your culture or ethnicity you can't embrace your own beliefs, culture, tradition etc

To me the attitude i see with people like Blindboy and Herc are almost like a new breed of racist, yeah nothing like the racist and racism of the past, but still do nothing to help all people come together as one, instead just create or keep division.

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Blowin commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 8:28am

Using the colour of someone’s skin as a derogatory reference is the definition of racism.

If in doubt of its appropriateness, replace the word white with the word black and see how it sounds ie Kavanaugh is a dead black male. Good luck saying that around town.

Maybe the boys think they’re being hip and cutting edge ?

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sypkan commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:01am

"If in doubt of its appropriateness, replace the word white with the word black and see how it sounds ie Kavanaugh is a dead black male. Good luck saying that around town."

Exactly!

I honestly don't think they even realise they're doing it. They're so indoctrinated into the ways and language it just slips out. Either that, or they wanna be down with the kids...you know...I'm so fucken woke and shit...

Surely not the latter.

I noticed guysmiley yesterday too, I ignored it, because it just becomes tedious pointing them out. Tedious and counterproductive.

No matter which side you're coming from, identity politics and its manifestations, are definitely the most divisive and destructive forces in politics right now.

But some are slow to learn...

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Westofthelake commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:06am

Oh boy.
So the Democrats are just being obstructionist on their pursuit for the truth? How dare they! I mean the Republicans would never stoop so low would they?
It's politics, its nasty, and it's the way it is, has been, and always will be.
The Democrats have every right to do what it takes to get to bottom of Kavanaugh's character. The next 30 years demand it. Good on them.
The irony is that its a Republican who has asked for an FBI investigation, "we owe them due diligence".
Let the truth be known.

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:06am

I approach this from a position that diversity is a good thing.

Two examples: If you look at those that most strongly opposed SSM here or are the most vocal against quotas for women representation in the (so-called) Liberal Party they are white middle aged or old men of the LNP who are mostly from privileged backgrounds or positions. That is a fact. These same men could be described as holding reactionary political positions on most issues dealing with any sort of social or political progress, think of the LNP's ongoing infighting for policy direction for example. Again a fact. In politics or business its the same, who are the people holding power and who is resisting any change to that power base?

... and blowin, at its core Mississippi Burning is also about that people with power resisting giving it up, so if you haven't watched it yet spare me your puerile comments .

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CryptoKnight commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:17am

'Ruthless, unfounded, public character assassination (wiith nothing at all of substance to back it up I might add). If you can't best them fairly, smear them with shit.'

Exactly sykply. Ya maaaaayyyte blowindo's prime tactic. Swillnuttin'. In a nutshell.

'blowindo MIA

'More classic 'play misty for me' bullshit, show me where I said,

'60000 years of existence was completely without violence , greed or envy'.'

No answer, just swillnuttin' bullshit. MIA, presumably lost in the 'red mist' again... in a nutshell.'

No evidence, because, again, he's a bullshit artist.

'Don’t get me started on Uplift . Maybe he’s exempt because he’s clinically insane ?'

HAHAHAHA. Insane... FFS. This is insane. This isn't made up, this is 'blowindo's pride and joy, his 'work'. Blowindo, ignores all surfing custom, and the result over him dropping in on a local, because he, a blowin wants pole position for 2 foot slop, having been surfing all day and and getting stoned is this. Not made up.

'That was when the madness set in. I looked at the blue sky and the white sand and realty, or unreality, set in. I started to blather, i could not tell you for certain what i was saying but it was lost mans dribble refering to the beautiful day and how this cunt had destroyed it with malicious intent. He started to walk along the beach cursing me over his shoulder, i think he saw in me something that i was not consciously aware of myself and his desire for confrontation was gone.
We walked in lock step along the beach as though to jump back off the point, myself slightly behind, fermenting, when we reached his friends. His bravado reappeared, turning to face me he addressed his friends, a half dozen guys and girls staked out against the wire guarding the dunes, he described my crimes as a blowin, an unwelcome abhorration, i saw the girls sneer as i raved about being from somewhere else, somewhere where people are judged on their merits in the surf. I recollect displeasure on their faces when they realised i wasn't from a city with inferior waves to theirs.
Then the red mist came over me
It was the assumed resentment of the women that really got me.
The smug superiority of some small minded no- one cunt moll that set me off. I turned to face Loud Mouth in front of his cunting piece of shit friends and with every ounce of will ,energy and misdirected anger from every point of my life i drove my fist into that cunt's putrid face and punched him to the sand.
I was standing over Loud Mouth's form bellowing that he was an imposter king presiding over a weak, gay wave, raising my fist for another blow when i realised my hand was broken . Then i heard a lady screaming and i was back in my head, concious of what i'd done , aware of where i was.
Loud Mouth was not cowering , but all fight had left the man. He was submissive but i was not gracious. Thank fuck i did not have a gun cause if i did i would have shot the cunt. The only thing that stopped me from kicking him till he twitched was some chick throwing herself over his prostrate form.'

Total self proclaimed insanity. Not to mention the fucking comments. In a fucking nutshell.

Swillnuttin' 101.

https://www.swellnet.com/forums/wax/12736

Ludicrous. 'I'm sykply poppins, your social worker... raped you say... are you sure, we don't want to smear the rapist though. And by the way, I have been doing some amazing new study, at the swillnut club!!!??? My lecturers, some dunces with no qualifications at all, a part time electrician, and his mate, a full time insane swillnut reckon... well look here's some of his 'work'...'

'Then the red mist came over me
It was the assumed resentment of the women that really got me.
The smug superiority of some small minded no- one cunt moll that set me off. I turned to face Loud Mouth in front of his cunting piece of shit friends and with every ounce of will ,energy and misdirected anger from every point of my life i drove my fist into that cunt's putrid face and punched him to the sand.
I was standing over Loud Mouth's form bellowing that he was an imposter king presiding over a weak, gay wave, raising my fist for another blow when i realised my hand was broken . Then i heard a lady screaming and i was back in my head, concious of what i'd done , aware of where i was.
Loud Mouth was not cowering , but all fight had left the man. He was submissive but i was not gracious. Thank fuck i did not have a gun cause if i did i would have shot the cunt. The only thing that stopped me from kicking him till he twitched was some chick throwing herself over his prostrate form.'

You're a fucking bozo at best sykply poppins, the catholic church and every catholic pedophile priest's dream come true.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 3:44pm

I agree with most of that westofthelake.

But, as I said there is a process. These accusations should be dealt with in a law court first. Look at the evidence. Innocent until proven guilty and all that...

And then, if it is good enough to go on the public record. It is good enough to be raised anywhere in any situation.

At the moment it is no more than 'he said, she said' bullshit

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sypkan commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:36am

And, I agree guysmiley, diversity is good, and should be a goal.

quotas?...not so much...

Careful how you go about achieving that diversity. You might just isolate the votes you need in the process.

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:37am

Westofthelake

You say it's politics as usual
Wrong by any simple test.
The democrats have taken things to a NEW LOW, and it will blow up in everyones face.

You then say they are justified in doing ANYTHING.
Really?

A dumb, extremist, hypocritical statement

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sypkan commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 9:45am

And, crypto

(seriously why bother, but anyway...)

I have to be honest, I only read bits of your post (you've really gotta condense that shit. Ever heard of dot points? They use them at uni so must be good)

By your thinking, Ford is right because she's a women?

Kavanaugh is wrong because he's a man?

Every preist and Catholic across the world are evil? Guilty by association.

Keep dividing and distancing bigfella. Soon the left will be so isolated they will be mocked publicly - we're kind of already there. Their position on everything so ridiculous even the inner city hipsters will laugh in their faces.

Good luck with that....

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 10:36am

Guysmiley

You are always spinning your fairy floss from fake news

Those most opposed to SSM were brown immigrants of both sexes.

.....your fixation on gender and race isnt progressive, and it destroys your objectivity.

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Westofthelake commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 10:07am

Oh blob the pot calls the kettle black.
Let me quote your hero Ann Coulter from twitter regarding the testimony of Ford so as to demonstrate her intellectual superiority.
"BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT, BULLSHIT."
Yes she actually tweeted that.

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 11:28pm

Crypto knight

Thanks for the link

Blowin is a fantastic writer....the comments reveal how his descriptive talent resonated with everyone who's been in a situation.

'Our enemies are our greatest teachers'
Buddha.

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I focus commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 10:15am

AAAAHHH for FFS Kavanaugh was a privileged WHITE MALE going to a privileged white school binge drinking hanging out with people who gang raped young women.

He also played a leading role in the Starr investigation and happily destroyed a young woman's life for the sake of his politics.

I hope they fu(k him over as he fully deserves..........have any of you seen some of his rulings, fu(king dicracefull.

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 10:22am

Westofthelake

I'm gratified to know I've helped you widen your information sources

You do a typically masterful demolition of her argument of course .....but still, anyone who wants to hear both sides will read Coulters articles in full.

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 10:34am

I focus

Are you doing satire here?....because I'm in awe.

You managed to serve up sexism, racism and classism, envy, condescension and guilt by association all in the first sentence.

That's more than talent....it's genius.

But then, as if it wasn't enough, you wash it down with a cocktail of hypocrisy and violent vindictiveness.

I feel privileged....you are a master!

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Blowin commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 11:11am

I Focus - Everyone is award of the colour of his skin . The whole point of racial equality is to remove the colour of someone’s skin from the equation when you’re making an assessment of their character.

Again , try this -Kavanaugh was a privileged BLACK MALE going to a privileged black school.

See how the capital letters don’t detract from the fact that you’re using skin colour as evidence to your opinion?

And see how the effect is to merely make you seem racist and also sexist ?

The colour of his skin is not a contributing factor in the case. Or if it is , then you’ve just set back the racial equality movement back by about a hundred years.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 11:09am

"AAAAHHH for FFS Kavanaugh was a privileged WHITE MALE going to a privileged white school binge drinking hanging out with people who gang raped young women."

Probably. Would you expect the republicans to nominate anything else?

Well, this bit anyway....

"...AAAAHHH for FFS Kavanaugh was a privileged WHITE MALE going to a privileged white school binge drinking..."

Republicans won the election. Republicans are putting people in place who represent republicans. Just like the democrats do when they win.

That's the game. The basic system of democracy that we all supposedly buy into. A somewhat rudimentary, flawed, possibbly unfair model of democracy that is hard to accept at times, but that's the price you pay to live in a civil society.

The left seem to have lost sight of this basic fundamental principle.

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 11:11am

Spin the inconvenient facts

http://www.sca.isr.umich.edu

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blindboy commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 4:56pm

sypkan, fair point about demonization but, having just watched his repulsive performance, it was hard to resist putting the boot in. He came across as an arrogant, self-obsessed bully. On the point of Democrat obstruction, the only reason this hearing is happening now is that the Republicans in the Senste blocked Obama’s nominees in an unprecedented manner before the election. Dirty politics? Absolutely the Republicans started it.

An interesting point about the hearing was that things became so aggressive and personal that during a break Flake got a bipartisan group together to calm it down as they were destroying the credibility of the process by making it entirely partisan. That’s why the compromise emerged.

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 6:00pm
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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 6:04pm

The ugly truth......the content of the protests since the retirement of Kennedy prove the desperate attack on Kavanaugh is primarily about one thing.....protecting the progressive High Mass of abortion.

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stunet commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 7:13pm

You against abortion Blob?

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 7:22pm

So there it is the voice of the evangelical christian.
Its open duck season so say your prayers varmint
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_KjlhfSfsE

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Blob commented Saturday, 29 Sep 2018 at 11:25pm

Guysmiley

You are such a fungi

Stunet

Of course I am.....not that that makes any difference re. Kavanaugh.

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blindboy commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 2:43am

So Blob, clarify here. Do you recognise the right of women to have an abortion, or do you believe that it should be illegal?

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 8:13am

Abortion is such a hard issue, before having a kid i thought it was pretty clear cut and had no issues with abortion, but after seeing my girl wiggling on the ultrasound screen (can't remember the weeks but believe about 12 weeks) i swear i could see her personality there.

If you take the point that its a womens right to terminate at what point do you say she lose that right?

16 weeks (the cut off date in Tasmania)

21 Weeks the earliest a prem baby has survived at and grown to be a healthy adult.

24 weeks? the cut of period in Victoria.

28 weeks the cut of period in SA

40 weeks? (general time most give birth)

As long as connected by umbilical cord?

Any time before first breath of baby?

I personally don't have any strong views either way, but just pointing out it's not a clear cut issue (like i once thought it was)

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Westofthelake commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 8:14am

Bb you might have to wait for an answer till after he gets home from Sunday School.

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CryptoKnight commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 8:32am

Was that one of the questions in your electrician apprenticeship indoblown, or didn’t you bother doing an apprenticeship? Did you just decide that the exams were a waste of time and that you were an intermediate expert electrician very early on? Do you think that you serve any purpose, when anyone at all could quickly do a quick swillnut google and realise that you were educated stupidly, and that your trainers, examiners and other electricians are just idiots who don’t understand electrical and all other inter galactic issues correctly? Is that why you melted down when you were in that horrendous situation when you were stoned and couldn’t pay your rego? In a nutshell.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 9:30am

Lifty - Half your posts on here are you describing how evil , spiteful and hateful the white man is .

The other half of your posts are you being an evil , spiteful and hateful white man.

I’ve punched this data into a complicated algorithm on the computer in order to assess your personality . Wait a minute whilst the supercomputer processes the information....

.......And here’s the results now .

Hmmmmm

[ Pushes glasses up bridge of nose , adjusts white coat , squints to read fine print of print out streaming from computer]

According to the latest findings you are a .......fuckwit.

A mentally unstable fuckwit.

Computer says no .

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I focus commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 9:38am

"Again , try this -Kavanaugh was a privileged BLACK MALE going to a privileged black school."

Blowing back in the day and to some extent today there was no such thing as a black privileged male or school the interchange in this instance does not work it's a nonsense unless used as say as sarcasm.

My statement in this instant (IMHO) is not racist it's definitive of the day particularly when you understand the girls getting gang raped were white but certainly not from rich privileged families if they were then there would have serious consequences.

Sypkan I agree and and understand the politics / process hopefully Kavanaugh will face full scrutiny which the Republicans are trying to obfuscate.

Blob good to see you are still around I was worried you had moved on looking forward to your embarrassingly brainwashed / prejudiced views in the future :-).

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Blowin commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 9:53am

Okay , how’s this sound ?

“Latest news - Today on the Chinese / Indian border there was another territorial skirmish. Some little yellow Chinese border guards confronted a battalion of brown , curry munching Indian soldiers in the East province.”

See how that’s racist ?

Tell me how it’s different from your post .

I’ll help you . ......it’s no different.

You are using someone’s skin colour and their culture as a derogatory descriptor = Naughty.

I would like to hear you defending yourself in court though - “ But , your honour, it’s true ! They were White / Black / Yellow ! I saw them with my own eyes ! It’s definitive of the day ! “

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CryptoKnight commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 9:54am

Blowindo, again you are a proven bullshit artist, a swillnut forever!!! Using all of your limestone bad boy ‘in the loop’ savvy, did you ever find your long lost, non existent maaaaayyte from ‘east albany’. Not even your ‘in the loop’ ‘special ops’ mmmaaaytes could find where he comes from??? ‘blowindo, ‘loopy’ bullshit artist racist forever. In a nutshell.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 10:06am

Which mate ? I don’t know anyone east of Albany.

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CryptoKnight commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 10:10am

That’s the trouble with bullshit artists, you can’t even remember your limestone bad boy ‘loopy’ bullshit. It’s all chronicaled in your swillnut chronicles. In a nutshell.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 10:34am

"Lifty - Half your posts on here are you describing how evil , spiteful and hateful the white man is .

The other half of your posts are you being an evil , spiteful and hateful white man."

Ha ha....that's gold because it's 100% correct :D

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CryptoKnight commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 11:30am

Haha, blowindo, more swillnut birds of a feather, blowin each other bullshit!!!

‘Which mate? I don’t know anyone east of Albany’

‘Hey Clam

You obviously don't have to reply to this , but are you from Southern WA ?

Way east of Albany ?

I think we may know each other if that's the case.‘

https://www.swellnet.com/news/surfpolitik/2010/02/23/where-blackfellas-m...

FFS, limestone bad boy ‘in the loop’ loopy ludicrous bullshit.

Bottom line is though you’re just some swillnut is the world ain’t it but, wannabe bullshitters. But your smarmy, cold, mindless, racist, boot sinking crap about Indigenous Australians that you deliberately parade and choose is sickening. The country and the world doesn’t need it so fuck off racist bullshitters.

But like all bullshitters you’ll just carry orn swillnuttin’ forever... in a nutshell !!!??

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Blowin commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 12:24pm

Was that really it ?

After all these posts ? I asked some fella on Swellnet if I might’ve known them ?

And that’s your claim to me being a bullshitter !

What the fuck is wrong with you ?

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CryptoKnight commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 1:02pm

But you don’t know anyone from east albany!!! No one!!! But as a ‘limestone, in the looper’ ya reckon you do! Hahaha what a bullshit artist!!! All time swillnut. Anyone that actually knows the guy, or is in ya loop, knows where he’s from, ya swillnuttin, racist bullshitter. But like all proven, true bullshitters, just water off a ducks back. You get sprung relentlessly... carry orn swillnuttin and fuck off racist.

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I focus commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 1:49pm

“Latest news - Today on the Chinese / Indian border there was another territorial skirmish. Some little yellow Chinese border guards confronted a battalion of brown , curry munching Indian soldiers in the East province.”

See how that’s racist ?

In a very minor insignificant way I do as you did not use the word squinty eyed yellow.....................ooohh FFS alright doesn't change the fact that Kavanaugh is a fu(king privileged white male wan%er.

I understand a conservative will get appointed so be it really don't respect Kavanaugh and his rant about democrats illustrates how shallow he is.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 4:26pm

I’ll ask again because your response was the usual unintelligible garbage :

Was that really it ?

After all these posts ? I asked some ( unidentified ) fella on Swellnet if I might’ve known them ?

And that’s your claim to me being a bullshitter !

What the fuck is wrong with you ?

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Blowin commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 4:25pm

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CryptoKnight commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 4:59pm

I know the guy you asked well. Even though with all your limestone ‘in the loop’ connections you are clueless about him, bullshitting ‘blowindo’.

‘I’ll help you’... even though you are a limestone ‘in the loop’ badboy.

‘Hey are you from Norway, because if you are, I think we know each other... because I don’t know anyone from Norway at all!!!!

FFS!!!?? Racist bullshitter extraordinaire. Swillnuttin’ 101 in a nutshell.

Troll.

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GuySmiley commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 9:49pm

I see blob hasn't surfaced all day.
Mmmmm, does he observe the sabbath or has he checked into the re-Penthouse?

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 6:24pm

ha ha Crypto calls Blowin a Troll??? WTF?

Crypto you are the prefect example of a troll, you don't post here to have a civil conversation or even civil debate, all you do is bait, name call, stir, attack, not stick the topic.

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Westofthelake commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 7:17pm

Guy, he will be back.
He's like a Blobernator
In the meantime one might speculate that he has called his mom to let her know that she needn't worry because he's having a sleepover at Cory's place.

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Westofthelake commented Sunday, 30 Sep 2018 at 7:18pm

Bb good links.