2022 Election

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blindboy started the topic in Saturday, 13 Nov 2021 at 7:46am

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andy-mac Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:12am

Congratulations to Albo and Labor, plus the independents and Greens that got up.
Hope Albo can bring the country together and start to get rid of the toxicity left by LNP.
Hopefully first on the agenda is an ICAC and Royal Commission into Media ownership in Australia.
Go early go hard and clean out the corruption.....

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DudeSweetDudeSweet Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:15am

If we get a good ICAC to reset the political culture it’ll be huge for Australia.

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andy-mac Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:19am
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If we get a good ICAC to reset the political culture it’ll be huge for Australia.

It is needed and I reckon if Labor don't bring one in they will suffer politically. Hopefully big push for one by Greens and Independents.

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blackers Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:19am

Or relentless drivel about a laptop belonging to one of the PM'S kids!

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:29am

Any ICAC will be toothless…TOR will be so narrow nothing will happen. Neither of the 2 majors have any real desiree for it.

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fitzroy-21 Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:40am

Pretty sure Albo recently promised ICAC by Xmas. Here's hoping it comes to fruition.

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 10:47am

1 thing we know will continue…is the rorting of travel and non taxable allowance.

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Supafreak Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:23am

Someone’s not happy A3-DE5447-1-F4-C-4553-B2-E3-9-D6-E8381-FF26

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Sheepdog Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:28am
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Wong’s speech was like she won..she will knife Albo for her own benefit.

You realise Albo is in the house of reps, and Wong is in the senate, and can NOT be PM right?
See, it's this sort of cretinous comments from Coalition supporters that turned floating voters towards teale and Labor

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flollo Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:32am
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https://twitter.com/barriecassidy/status/1528158361518080001?s=21&t=IoH-... Someone’s not happy A3-DE5447-1-F4-C-4553-B2-E3-9-D6-E8381-FF26

Or is this wilful ignorance? There are lessons to be learnt, I don’t recommend ignoring them.

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Sheepdog Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:42am
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Well there you go that's a clear book end on almost 30 years of prosperity (about 19 years under LNP), the end of a golden era, anyone who thinks things are going to get better in the future are nuts, only guarantee is things will get more woke.

We now have our very own Biden, well until one of his own party members rolls him.

Anyway it's time to focus on the positives the silver linings

1. It's not Shorten and it didn't happen before the pandemic, thank god for that we could have been in real shit, its just a pity many dont appreciate how well we have done during Covid economically and from a health perspective.

2. To get into government Labor had to get rid of their radical policy from last election and become Liberal lite, so it could be much worse.

3. LNP's historic record will be kept intact low interest rates and low unemployment, instead of being ruined by a future of interest rate rises. (and then lose next election)

4. Inflation will increase, interest rates will rise and there will be extremely hard times ahead, this is all going to work against Labor being re-elected in the future, its highly likely they will last 2 terms 3 max (even one if things go real pear shaped) and if you think LNP dont have the leaders ready take over, jus remember Abbott the most unlikeable PM got voted in after Labor's last mess.

5. Wage rises: I think a big reason for the win is Labor talking this up, wages will rise naturally or pushed, but barely anyone is ever going to satisfied, they will always believe they should have more, basically Labor are promising something that people will never be satisfied with and will possibly work against them next election.

6. Just like the media hounded Scomo when fires and floods trying to get gotcha moments and nick picked anything and everything, the same will happen to Albo, and he wont be able to handle it the same way Scomo did, it's going to be fun to watch.

7. China relations will improve, Albo will be kissing their arse like Krudd did, i guess in a strange way that's a positive, it will be sad to watch but it will keep us kind of safer.

Anyway I'm not even going to read the comments in here and try my best to take a break from political thread and let the dust settle, and I'm sure there will be lots of gloating and out there predictions on what this means for LNP.

But i just read that despite the hammering LNP have got Labor's primary vote is still down on 2019 election.

And lets get this in perspective the LNP run has been nine years something that has only been achieved twice by both parties in our history (and once by another coalition party way back) as I've said many times the longer you are in power the harder it is to hold onto power, a loss after nine years is very different to a loss after one or two terms, so dont get too excited, a few years ago Labor looked un electable, things can change very fast in politics.

LNP have also been in power for about 19 of the last 25+ years thats not a dying party, and while looking at stats since 1950 over 70 years Labor have only been in power about 22 years.

Basically enjoy it while it last because historically it's not something that happens that often.

Stats for Andy can be found here https://primeministers.moadoph.gov.au/prime-ministers

30 years of prosperity? For whom? Homelessness has NEVER been higher in Australia. 400,000 women over 50 are on the verge of joining the homeless ranks.
Whether it's OECD, world education rankings, manufacturing, broadband internet, corruption policing, Home ownership, wages, Australia has slid DRAMATICALLY!

BTW, Indo. Suck it up, buttercup

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:45am
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Wong’s speech was like she won..she will knife Albo for her own benefit.

You realise Albo is in the house of reps, and Wong is in the senate, and can NOT be PM right?
See, it's this sort of cretinous comments from Coalition supporters that turned floating voters towards teale and Labor

Gee…you added a lot there.

Ps teal…not teale. Cretin back at ya.

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flollo Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:47am
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Seems Dutton will probably become the new LNP leader. Obviously, Frydenberg was assumed next in line, but that opportunity is gone. Anyone know if Simon Birmingham will/won't put up his hand? Speaks really well, seems to be a nice bloke. Surely Dutton will only continue to be a divisive figure.

He’s a senator @Ben therefore no chance unless moves to the Reps somehow

Yeah, Simon seems like a good, balanced figure. Senator can actually become a PM, there are no restrictions but it’s not done out of convention. I don’t see this changing anytime soon. And yeah, Dutton would be a terrible choice.

https://peo.gov.au/understand-our-parliament/your-questions-on-notice/qu...

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JQ Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:57am
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ALP takes office with 3 in every 10 Australians voting for them.

That’s getting to Steven Bradbury levels of accomplishment.

Don't think this is a particularly fair measure and ignores a lot of nuance.

Labor didn't get the first or even second spot on my vote (sustainable Australia and local independent), but they did get 3rd. I preferred the policies of these independents, hence gave them 1 & 2 on my vote, but I knew they weren't going to get in and as such, given the realistic choice of a Liberal or Labor government, I support a Labor government. Just because they didn't get 1st on my vote does not mean I don't support them and I'm sure I'm not the only one like this.

Preferential voting hey.

Interesting to consider what mandate they have, I would suggest, given the new range of independents, the mandates are pretty much stronger action on climate change and a federal ICAC. Both of which would do wonders for Australia domestically and internationally.

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bonza Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 11:59am

Cathy McGowan will be yoda from here on. It’s only a matter of weeks before the Emperor gets the knives out for her in his daily attacks on the fake left green teal “party” independents if it’s a minority government. I sure hope it is. Reckon the independents will be ready given the Gillard experience. The independent movement is only going to get stronger. It wasn’t just Scomo or icac or housing or climate change. It’s bigger than that. It’s the shallowness of party politics. The complete lack of progress on the issues that Matter. The lack of vision. The refusal to answer a question at all. The lies, government babble, the revolving door of jobs for the boys from government to donors and back again, the professional politician candidates. The party machine only operates to keep the party in power. It’s frozen their ability to move on effective policy, talk honestly and clearly to the nation and the country is worse for it. Looking forward to some tough national conversations, negotiation and seeing real shit get done. I can only hope.

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Roadkill wrote:
Sheepdog wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Wong’s speech was like she won..she will knife Albo for her own benefit.

You realise Albo is in the house of reps, and Wong is in the senate, and can NOT be PM right?
See, it's this sort of cretinous comments from Coalition supporters that turned floating voters towards teale and Labor

Gee…you added a lot there.

Ps teal…not teale. Cretin back at ya.

"Any ICAC will be toothless…TOR will be so narrow nothing will happen. Neither of the 2 majors have any real desiree for it."

Ps desire...not desiree.

Haha, but in all seriousness RK, agreed on your earlier comment about the beauty of Australian democracy and our right to move on in good faith and generally good will for the incoming (and long time opposing) government.

Generally, you'd hope that everyday Australians, deep down, wants governments to succeed and excel for society and not fail simply for ideological reasons or to confirm suspicions of inadequacy based on historical performance. Looking at Indo and any rusted on voter of any political persuasion.

Personally, I've never been so engaged in an election. Watched it all the way through to 12am and went to bed happy with the result. Hopefully some of these independents prove to be the panacea for political curruption and can bridge some of the division and dissolve the toxicity to levels tolerated in an everyday work place. Workplace standards and individual conduct in parliament need to be the benchmark imo.

Peter Dutton is a wild choice if they choose him. Not sure how he differentiates himself from Scomos legacy. Angus Taylor may be the first cab off the rank in terms of ICAC. Dan Tehan...yawn. Birmingham subliminally putting his case forward on the ABC over the past 12 hours.

Agree with Supa on a royal commission into media ownership. But not sure what that would actually bring about. What legislation do we have which can dissolve corporate ownership. Anti collusion/market monopoly? Im not sure. Be interesting to see how that plays out as no doubt Rudd will be pushing loudly for that.

Glad it's all said and done!

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Westofthelake Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 12:28pm

There seems like a certain karmic balancing occurring when Pauline Hanson seems likely to lose her Senate seat to the Greens, maybe someone can explain it to her...

Adam Bandt was saying that they door-knocked 30000 homes in one electorate in Qld, which is a lot of grassroots campaigning, a lot of face to face conversations. It seems to have paid off for them.

Monique Ryan the Independent who looks likely to beat Joshy in Kooyong said they had 2000 people volunteer to help her campaign. That's nothing short of fucking incredible.

I read somewhere that 10 of the 14 seats that have changed hands have gone to women. All I can say is "Go girls".

I think the movement towards Independents is a real positive sign that democracy is in good shape in Australia.

Like Bonza said "Looking forward to some tough national conversations, negotiation and seeing real shit get done. I can only hope."

AS for LNP leadership and Dutton firming as their choice, this will pretty much ensure their position as the opposition for a decade or so.

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Roadkill Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 12:31pm
Ben Harding wrote:
Roadkill wrote:
Sheepdog wrote:
Roadkill wrote:

Wong’s speech was like she won..she will knife Albo for her own benefit.

You realise Albo is in the house of reps, and Wong is in the senate, and can NOT be PM right?
See, it's this sort of cretinous comments from Coalition supporters that turned floating voters towards teale and Labor

Gee…you added a lot there.

Ps teal…not teale. Cretin back at ya.

"Any ICAC will be toothless…TOR will be so narrow nothing will happen. Neither of the 2 majors have any real desiree for it."

Ps desire...not desiree.

Haha, but in all seriousness RK, agreed on your earlier comment about the beauty of Australian democracy and our right to move on in good faith and generally good will for the incoming (and long time opposing) government.

Generally, you'd hope that everyday Australians, deep down, wants governments to succeed and excel for society and not fail simply for ideological reasons or to confirm suspicions of inadequacy based on historical performance. Looking at Indo and any rusted on voter of any political persuasion.

Personally, I've never been so engaged in an election. Watched it all the way through to 12am and went to bed happy with the result. Hopefully some of these independents prove to be the panacea for political curruption and can bridge some of the division and dissolve the toxicity to levels tolerated in an everyday work place. Workplace standards and individual conduct in parliament need to be the benchmark imo.

Peter Dutton is a wild choice if they choose him. Not sure how he differentiates himself from Scomos legacy. Angus Taylor may be the first cab off the rank in terms of ICAC. Dan Tehan...yawn. Birmingham subliminally putting his case forward on the ABC over the past 12 hours.

Agree with Supa on a royal commission into media ownership. But not sure what that would actually bring about. What legislation do we have which can dissolve corporate ownership. Anti collusion/market monopoly? Im not sure. Be interesting to see how that plays out as no doubt Rudd will be pushing loudly for that.

Glad it's all said and done!

Ps desire...not desiree... Touché!

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Robwilliams Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 1:19pm

Glad it's all said and done! +1

Scomo be gone. What a waste. They got what they deserved. A poor period of Australian pollitricks.
Stoked for the independents who played a role and took a stand. Positive action from many trying to create positive change.
It starts and ends with us. The future is fast approaching and the time is now. Australia deserves better, be it our National leaders or local communities. Take a stand, We are Australia and the future we create. From little things big things grow pollitricks or not.

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AndyM Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 1:15pm
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Well there you go that's a clear book end on almost 30 years of prosperity (about 19 years under LNP), the end of a golden era, anyone who thinks things are going to get better in the future are nuts, only guarantee is things will get more woke.

We now have our very own Biden, well until one of his own party members rolls him.

Anyway it's time to focus on the positives the silver linings

1. It's not Shorten and it didn't happen before the pandemic, thank god for that we could have been in real shit, its just a pity many dont appreciate how well we have done during Covid economically and from a health perspective.

2. To get into government Labor had to get rid of their radical policy from last election and become Liberal lite, so it could be much worse.

3. LNP's historic record will be kept intact low interest rates and low unemployment, instead of being ruined by a future of interest rate rises. (and then lose next election)

4. Inflation will increase, interest rates will rise and there will be extremely hard times ahead, this is all going to work against Labor being re-elected in the future, its highly likely they will last 2 terms 3 max (even one if things go real pear shaped) and if you think LNP dont have the leaders ready take over, jus remember Abbott the most unlikeable PM got voted in after Labor's last mess.

5. Wage rises: I think a big reason for the win is Labor talking this up, wages will rise naturally or pushed, but barely anyone is ever going to satisfied, they will always believe they should have more, basically Labor are promising something that people will never be satisfied with and will possibly work against them next election.

6. Just like the media hounded Scomo when fires and floods trying to get gotcha moments and nick picked anything and everything, the same will happen to Albo, and he wont be able to handle it the same way Scomo did, it's going to be fun to watch.

7. China relations will improve, Albo will be kissing their arse like Krudd did, i guess in a strange way that's a positive, it will be sad to watch but it will keep us kind of safer.

Anyway I'm not even going to read the comments in here and try my best to take a break from political thread and let the dust settle, and I'm sure there will be lots of gloating and out there predictions on what this means for LNP.

But i just read that despite the hammering LNP have got Labor's primary vote is still down on 2019 election.

And lets get this in perspective the LNP run has been nine years something that has only been achieved twice by both parties in our history (and once by another coalition party way back) as I've said many times the longer you are in power the harder it is to hold onto power, a loss after nine years is very different to a loss after one or two terms, so dont get too excited, a few years ago Labor looked un electable, things can change very fast in politics.

LNP have also been in power for about 19 of the last 25+ years thats not a dying party, and while looking at stats since 1950 over 70 years Labor have only been in power about 22 years.

Basically enjoy it while it last because historically it's not something that happens that often.

Stats for Andy can be found here https://primeministers.moadoph.gov.au/prime-ministers

30 years of prosperity? For whom? Homelessness has NEVER been higher in Australia. 400,000 women over 50 are on the verge of joining the homeless ranks.
Whether it's OECD, world education rankings, manufacturing, broadband internet, corruption policing, Home ownership, wages, Australia has slid DRAMATICALLY!

BTW, Indo. Suck it up, buttercup

Thank Christ someone threw in a rebuttal there.
Indo is delusional.

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tubeshooter Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 1:32pm

Glad to see Scomo out but like others I am still concerned about the next few years.
Don't get me wrong , I hope Albo can run with the ball and do a good job.. I wish him (and Australia) all the best.
I'm hopeful but also somewhat skeptical.
Stateside Biden is already less popular than Trump was at the same time. For all the hype and hope that joint had when they got rid of the orange man , their new saviour has been about as useful as an inflatable dart board.

Anyway Scotty , don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya,,,

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Robwilliams Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 1:36pm

Ha ha in the end it's right. a fuck'n prick

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Supafreak Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 1:55pm

Barnyard’s expression on hearing he’s no longer the deputy prime minister of Australia & the bonuses keep coming, no more PH , CK , or CP to name a few 9435149-E-16-DE-4-E87-975-E-87399-B8-E1-C98

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 2:02pm
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Ha ha! Ok VJ, copper to fibre and...?

https://youtu.be/Qc7HmhrgTuQ

Btw- anyone who wears a Tommy Hilfiger jumper should pay double for drinks.

Haha Zen I love that clip, been tempted to post it here on so many occasions...
Part of my career was working around the old copper network, and honestly it was a superb thing - for it's time. Did you know in event of disaster, the batteries in the exchanges would continue to power everyone's phone after power was gone, running the power down the copper lines? The radio tower network, the ancient coaxial repeaters, fun times.
I have a cunning ploy for the young one, who is normally way more modest, but has enjoyed last night and been added on socials already. (Hair like a young Terry Fitz at present + expensive fashion...) OK, so you take a flannel button up shirt as well, preferably warm, and sit on it/place it to a side. When going up to order drinks, cover the Tommy jumper with the flannel shirt, when back with drinks, doff the flannel. I reckon it would work.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 2:07pm

Qldurrz Goldie crew share their inside tip...[L] Queen Bee decides the next [L] Leader
Media are plain stupid to Vote for Mr Potato Head.
Power mad pretender is now Oz most puny toothless Bully! He's got No skin in the game!
[L] Electorate have their hands tied & must include a little woman to have a crack at Man's Top Job
Dutto is not Woman enough & must stick to tying Apron Strings for his Queen Bee.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/dutton-loses-liberal-preselection-200910...
https://www.smh.com.au/national/mp-thanks-man-she-defeated-in-preselecti...

Karen says the Political Climate has Changed
https://www.crikey.com.au/2020/01/17/karen-andrews-climate-change/
Iron Lady changes Dutto's Nappies
https://www.kristinakeneally.com.au/news/media-releases/karen-andrews-br...
Iron Lady says Scomo must go!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10481659/One-Scott-Morrisons-mi...

Week out from Election Loss the Iron Lady locks in her defensive #1[L] Qld Olympic sized Power Play
K. Andrew's electorate bosses $Billions of committed & future Gold medal Seachange Olympic Ideals.
Iron Lady Pulls Emergency brake on Timeshare Trolley! [OMG] Premier / Mayor / Rupert / V&B (Panic!)
Stage 4 ~ $2.7 billion tossed in the bin! (Locals claim they've never seen a sweeter Power Trip!)
http://federal.governmentcareer.com.au/news/andrews-rejects-tram-funds
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-17/karen-andrews-light-rail-oppositi...
Qld Premier calls for Emergency Natcab where all are ransomed to Vote #1 Iron Lady for Top [L] Job.
Iron Lady is crowned shadow Olympic Boss + [L] Leader while stroking her pet pussy Anna!

Calling the shots until next Election & next if they refuse the Iron Lady Oz #1 Throne.
Q: "How much is 15kms of Goldie max volume WSR seachange + Olympic Airlink worth to Qld /Oz".
tbb reckons Oz Supa Shares value that as = [L] leadership + Next PM...All say Aye! Lock it in!

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Goofy4 Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 2:12pm

" Anyone know if Simon Birmingham will/won't put up his hand? Speaks really well, seems to be a nice bloke. Surely Dutton will only continue to be a divisive figure.
He’s a senator @Ben therefore no chance unless moves to the Reps somehow."

As flollo mentioned - there is no rule that prevents a senator from becoming PM - John Gorton was a senator when he filled Harold Holt's booties - it is however convention that the leader be a sitting member of the house of reps and Gorton did move to the lower house after becoming PM - my old man was a Lib member and used to drive old bum face around Melbourne when he was in town...

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abc news
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-22/nadesalingam-family-to-return-to-...

Some on this site will be livid about this , heartless pricks .

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:03pm

WA results were eye raising as well. Seems in Syd/Melb death for the Libs was teals, in Brissy it was greens, in Perth it was straight ALP. When speaking to Bro there recently, there were no shortage of f and c words for Scomo and the libs - his family all just got covid nailed, my SIL got the long form of it, trying to go back to work not fully fixed, school chaos with one teacher for 80 kids as so many staff sick with it. Even the south of river seat of Tangney went, which was an eye opener (& mum will be spewing when I talk to her later today...) Probably not best timing for an election.

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What a nonsense this poor family had to go through. What are people so afraid off? Refugees staying permanently? Receiving government benefits? Unless you’re PR or a citizen you’ll receive fuck all and you even pay much more in income tax. It’s basically like being a 2nd class citizen. Not to mention HECS which only citizens can get so people can’t even get an education.

Some people seem to be worried about the cost but the only cost I can see is stupid government wasting millions keeping people in ambiguity and shuffling them from city to city, from island to island, in processes that take years to resolve.

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Ben Harding Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:13pm
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ALP takes office with 3 in every 10 Australians voting for them.

That’s getting to Steven Bradbury levels of accomplishment.

Don't think this is a particularly fair measure and ignores a lot of nuance.

Labor didn't get the first or even second spot on my vote (sustainable Australia and local independent), but they did get 3rd. I preferred the policies of these independents, hence gave them 1 & 2 on my vote, but I knew they weren't going to get in and as such, given the realistic choice of a Liberal or Labor government, I support a Labor government. Just because they didn't get 1st on my vote does not mean I don't support them and I'm sure I'm not the only one like this.

Preferential voting hey.

Interesting to consider what mandate they have, I would suggest, given the new range of independents, the mandates are pretty much stronger action on climate change and a federal ICAC. Both of which would do wonders for Australia domestically and internationally.

Fantastic comment, re first preferences. Plenty of people in the same position, myself included. Fingers crossed the ICAC is a transparent model with razor sharp teeth.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:22pm
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What a nonsense this poor family had to go through. What are people so afraid off? Refugees staying permanently? Receiving government benefits? Unless you’re PR or a citizen you’ll receive fuck all and you even pay much more in income tax. It’s basically like being a 2nd class citizen. Not to mention HECS which only citizens can get so people can’t even get an education.

Some people seem to be worried about the cost but the only cost I can see is stupid government wasting millions keeping people in ambiguity and shuffling them from city to city, from island to island, in processes that take years to resolve.

Depends if you believe refugee resettlement places should go to true refugees who have NO home to return to like stateless refugees or high persecuted groups, or if you believe spots should be given out will nilly based on things like popularity and including people that are no longer classed as refugees because it's safe for them too return home.

Your lack of understanding of the bigger picture, only means those in most need miss out, but you dont see the ones that miss out so you dont care.

I hope this causes others to try to do the same causing the government headaches.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:21pm
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Bye bye Kristina, very happy about this.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/kristina-keneally-s-political-ca...

One of the comments was to the tune of: if Labor fall one seat short of government, and they would have won the seat if they hadn't parachuted Keneally and used the liked local candidate, how silly are they?

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WA results were eye raising as well. Seems in Syd/Melb death for the Libs was teals, in Brissy it was greens, in Perth it was straight ALP. When speaking to Bro there recently, there were no shortage of f and c words for Scomo and the libs - his family all just got covid nailed, my SIL got the long form of it, trying to go back to work not fully fixed, school chaos with one teacher for 80 kids as so many staff sick with it. Even the south of river seat of Tangney went, which was an eye opener (& mum will be spewing when I talk to her later today...) Probably not best timing for an election.

VJ no surprises re WA, Morrisons political attacks against WA early pandemic, backing Palmers attempt to bankrupt the state etc always meant there would be a swing.

On top of that we have centrist Labor state government who runs budget surpluses (no other state or territory gov would, even if they had the money) so the scare campaigns(Indo repeats ad infinitum) had little or no effect.

Note the Teal candidates central policies are actual Labours central policies and the failure of Labors primary vote on the East Coast is in part a success story from the propaganda fear campaigns run by conservatives for a long time creating the uncertainty for Labor.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:22pm

[quote=Ben Harding
Fantastic comment, re first preferences. Plenty of people in the same position, myself included. Fingers crossed the ICAC is a transparent model with razor sharp teeth.

Yep was going to say the same thing, well done on that comment JQ - this was exactly the position Ms and I were in.

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stunet Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:27pm

The wife came home with a new teal-coloured top on today. Told me that anytime I'm not pulling my weight around the house or disrespecting her she'll go to the wardrobe and put it on.

A little silent reminder to lift my game.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:29pm

Probably my favourite colour for a surfboard, I know you like red Stu

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:30pm

Ms informed me Scomo's wife was wearing a teal Carla Zampatti dress last night? Very ironic if true

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:31pm

Analysis pieces coming in:

"Anthony Albanese bet everything on a Scott Morrison failure and his bet has paid off handsomely.

Morrison has delivered for Labor. He has not only lost power. By surrendering all traditional Liberal values, he has cost the Liberal Party its bedrock support base. He was a bulldozer, all right. He bulldozed his party into electoral oblivion."

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-quiet-australians-spoke-and-...

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flollo Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:44pm
indo-dreaming wrote:
flollo wrote:

What a nonsense this poor family had to go through. What are people so afraid off? Refugees staying permanently? Receiving government benefits? Unless you’re PR or a citizen you’ll receive fuck all and you even pay much more in income tax. It’s basically like being a 2nd class citizen. Not to mention HECS which only citizens can get so people can’t even get an education.

Some people seem to be worried about the cost but the only cost I can see is stupid government wasting millions keeping people in ambiguity and shuffling them from city to city, from island to island, in processes that take years to resolve.

Depends if you believe refugee resettlement places should go to true refugees who have NO home to return to like stateless refugees or high persecuted groups, or if you believe spots should be given out will nilly based on things like popularity and including people that are no longer classed as refugees because it's safe for them too return home.

Your lack of understanding of the bigger picture, only means those in most need miss out, but you dont see the ones that miss out so you dont care.

I hope this causes others to try to do the same causing the government headaches.

Nonsense. If the case goes to high court and the high court decides against the government then I trust the high court whoever the government is. Framework should be simple; bridging visa until the decision so people can somewhat participate in the society. They can work and pay taxes same as others. None of this nonsense with random visa categories which allow locking people up for as long as it takes to prove the point.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:45pm

Some good news at last looks like Jacinta price will win her seat for the first time, hopefully this lifts her profile further and she can shake some things up.

This women needs to go further in politics, she's only 41 driven, smart, tough as nails and conservative.

If only the LNP took her and one day made her leader, even some on the left would be confused and have to vote for her a female indigenous PM.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-22/nt-federal-election-senate-result...

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Westofthelake Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 3:45pm

Does The (Un)Australian know something that even the AEC doesn't know yet? ABC still showing 71 to 51.

Capture

"Labor has enough seats to form a majority government, The Australian is projecting.

A batch of new seats were called this morning, pushing Labor to 77, one more than the 76 required and averting the prospect of a minority government."

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-live-...

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sypkan Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 4:15pm
Westofthelake wrote:

Does The (Un)Australian know something that even the AEC doesn't know yet? ABC still showing 71 to 51.

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"Labor has enough seats to form a majority government, The Australian is projecting.

A batch of new seats were called this morning, pushing Labor to 77, one more than the 76 required and averting the prospect of a minority government."

https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/federal-election-live-...

please please no!

my dream scenario is slipping away

ie. labor forms a minority govenment with the help of independent/s, not needing the greens to form government

(nothing personal to the greens - just that some of their demands were plain ridiculous - actually, maybe it's a bit personal too)

and kristine kenneely losing her seat was the icing on top ...a very sweet icing it is...

not certain yet, but a few commentators saying labor will get there

oh well, you cannot have it all...

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 4:15pm

btw Simon Birmingham was excellent last night, as well as the other Liberal fellow who noted
"You can't be a conservative if you've got nothing to conserve", regarding house prices.

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Supafreak Sunday, 22 May 2022 at 4:16pm

Wasn’t it called a few hours ago ?