Australia - you're standing in it

Sheepdog's picture
Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 12:20pm
stunet wrote:

"Not sure what you’re talking about?"

After this morning's outbursts I'm not surprised.

When you call those who are aware of the growing transnational nature of governance “idjits” then I’m not surprised that you’re not surprised.

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 12:33pm

Of course there are inter-governmental organisations, mostly beneficial though some have nefarious intent, though you'll note....or should've noted, that I said it's shifting away from the wholesale liberalism promised through the nineties and early years of the century.

The point is that Australia is not at threat by some looming one world government.

Hutchy 19's picture
Hutchy 19's picture
Hutchy 19 Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 2:04pm

I am with Offshore and think his direction is spot on .

If you are in doubt just read up on it a bit . One of their minions was just appointed to run the WHO . Guess what , the first non doctor every appointed . Look who is on the board of the World Economic Forum . Look who they are working with . What they believe and are these issues being played out NOW . Are they the most powerful group in the world today ? They are Davos on steroids !

Why put your head in the sand when one hours research is all that is needed ? Google WEF/Davos and see what comes up .

If you conclude they have no power to achieve their agenda PLEASE tell me so I can stop worrying .

stunet's picture
stunet's picture
stunet Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 3:41pm

Good to see you're up for some old style fear mongering when it suits you, Hutchy.

That's what one hour of research will do to you.

adam12's picture
adam12's picture
adam12 Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 3:57pm

For me the interest I have in Blowin's coming one world government is the outfits. I reckon they will all be wearing those suits with no lapels made of shiny material, or maybe neospacetrek with lots of solid colours, and I wonder about the haircuts...the zuck look? AI bowlcuts tres chic?

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:05pm
adam12 wrote:

For me the interest I have in Blowin's coming one world government is the outfits. I reckon they will all be wearing those suits with no lapels made of shiny material, or maybe neospacetrek with lots of solid colours, and I wonder about the haircuts...the zuck look? AI bowlcuts tres chic?

They’ll be wearing business suits and you and you’re kids will be wearing metaphoric leg irons in the form of an insurmountable Intergenerational mortgage ya dum fuck.

Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:17pm
I focus's picture
I focus's picture
I focus Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:27pm

One world government?

How?

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:30pm
Constance B Gibson wrote:

Cockroaches.

https://www.betootaadvocate.com/uncategorized/cool-says-qld-wa-sa-tas-an...

I thought you’d love Dom Perrottet. He’s planning on bringing in 2.000.000 more people to NSW in the next few years! Imagine how diverse the place will be!

Sure it might cost the lives of every koala, denude hundreds of thousands of hectares of habitat, increase the heat soak of the state by 1000% and destroy water security…..but think how unracist you can feel at parties with your other virtue signalling Fake Left mates!

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:32pm

...and I thought for a moment, unlikely as it seemed, that SN had attracted a woman commentator.

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:40pm
blindboy wrote:

...and I thought for a moment, unlikely as it seemed, that SN had attracted a woman commentator.

Did you just mis gender someone?

OMFG!

Hey, you think I’m joking but once a parrot like yourself gets your head around the rules in a few months you’ll be brow beating over gender misrepresentation like no one else.

Also no surprises that you didn’t immediately know who it really was. Yourself and Vic Local took the longest which says all you need to know.

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:42pm

Sqwark sqwark!

boxright's picture
boxright's picture
boxright Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 4:42pm

It's just non stop antagonism with you today hey? Did you just wake up and thought you'd go out of your way to piss off every person you came across.

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 5:04pm
boxright wrote:

It's just non stop antagonism with you today hey? Did you just wake up and thought you'd go out of your way to piss off every person you came across.

I only ever have a go at the muppets. They all got many, many chances before I decided I was done listening to their rubbish.

Hutchy 19's picture
Hutchy 19's picture
Hutchy 19 Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 5:09pm

I thought boxy was talking to BB - Blowin .

Being unaware of the history of SN will mean I make mistakes . I have no firm idea of Connies sex , only suspicions .

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Tuesday, 12 Oct 2021 at 5:59pm

Ha ha, it might have been Hutchy. I suppose we'll never know now!

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Wednesday, 13 Oct 2021 at 8:48am

Ross Gittins directing a well deserved boot at our corporate parasites and their political enablers.

“But is that the whole story? My mate’s looking at it from a different angle: what do the many failed attempts to hand service delivery to for-profit operators say about the ethics and trustworthiness of Australia’s business people?
That, for a surprising number of them, if you see some money lying around with nobody watching, you grab it? That while ripping-off customers is unethical and will soon get you a bad reputation, overcharging “the government” is a harmless, victimless crime? No human was hurt in the making of this profit?
One of the first government services to be outsourced was childcare. Before long, a single company bought up more than half the childcare centres, expanded overseas and then collapsed. To avoid leaving many parents in the lurch, government had to step in and sort it – at great expense.
Much of the sector remains privately owed. Last week the United Workers Union produced a report finding that three-quarters of the 12,000 enforcement actions taken since 2015 were against for-profit providers. ”

“An accountants’ report for the royal commission into aged care found that, using a common definition of profit (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortisation) for-profit aged care providers in the second-highest quartile had a profit margin of 16 per cent, compared with 13 per cent for non-profits and 4 per cent for state government providers in 2018. Return on equity was 12 per cent for non-profit providers and 72 per cent for for-profit providers."

https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/how-flimflam-politicians-cul...

Blowin's picture
Blowin's picture
Blowin Wednesday, 13 Oct 2021 at 8:53am

From the horse’s mouth. AKA watching corruption unfold in real time :

+
Perrottet: “Adding more people isn’t a sustainable economic strategy”
By Unconventional Economist in Australian Politics
Yesterday, I reported on the NSW Government’s dastardly plan to double Australia’s pre-COVID immigration intake to more than 400,000 people a year, which would “see the population swell by 2 million by 2026”:

Mr Perrottet on Monday said the borders need to be opened up amid a “general labour” shortage to ensure a healthy economic recovery.

“If we lose this opportunity, those skilled migrants will go to other countries,” he said. “We won’t get those engineers, those accountants, they’ll commit to other projects”…

I won’t go into the reasons why this plan is reckless, since I mentioned these yesterday.

Instead, I’ll simply relay Dominic Perrottet’s own arguments against “extraordinarily high rates of immigration” from when he was NSW Treasurer.

First, here’s an extract from an Op-Ed written by Perrottet published in The Australian in November 2018:

“Merely adding more people isn’t a sustainable economic strategy…

More important, we can’t pretend that high immigration comes without a cost, and we believe growth should not impose an unfair burden on those already here.

Excessively rapid growth puts downward pressure on wages and upward pressure on housing ­prices, both of which have sorely stung workers and aspiring homeowners in Sydney and other parts of NSW for a decade.

It also means more people on trains, more cars, more students in our schools and more patients at hospitals. And it’s the NSW government, not the federal government, that is responsible for providing the necessary support for the surging population.

When you look at the numbers, it’s no surprise communities in Sydney are feeling the pressure…

In 2006, annual net overseas migration to Australia increased to roughly double its average pace across the preceding 25 years…

Even if the NSW population stayed at today’s level, it would take time to complete the work so that our communities could be more liveable, our commute times more manageable, and our schools and hospitals more capable of offering exceptional care rather than just coping.

Instead, extraordinarily high rates of immigration risk pushing those outcomes beyond our grasp. And it’s a problem state governments are powerless to solve on their own because we have no say in the national immigration rate.”

Second, here is a Radio 2GB interview from 2018 whereby Perrottet described mass immigration as “lazy economics”:

“We don’t have a seat at the table when it comes to the rate of immigration into the country and there’s no doubt a lot of that immigration comes to Sydney”

“Whilst the federal government gets the benefit of the income tax, it is the state government that has to foot the bill for the infrastructure associated with that intake.”

“Simply because the Treasury bureaucrats might tell you that putting more people, economic growth continues to drive, that is lazy economics. What is more substantive is actually getting productivity reforms across a whole range of areas. But at the same time, what we are asking for here is a breather on immigration, to have a seat at the table and make sure that NSW as we grow, we grow well”.

Finally, here’s Perrottet complaining in 2019 that states like NSW wear the costs of immigration:

“We continue to not get our fair share of infrastructure investment,” NSW Treasurer Dominic Perrottet said.

“Victoria and NSW have the lowest rate of commonwealth infrastructure investment on a per capita basis. The federal government get all the benefits of immigration but we get all the costs.”

Maybe Dominic Perrottet should follow his own advice instead of pursuing lazy and destructive mass immigration-led growth.

If NSW Labor leader Chris Minns had any sense, he would run hard on a lower immigration platform.

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Wednesday, 13 Oct 2021 at 3:19pm

This would be the funniest thing in a long time....if the attempt was not so threatening to our freedom.

"That's a charge? God, it's not even a walk through the park. It's inane," the magistrate replied."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-10-13/magistrate-adjourns-police-applic...

Sheepdog's picture
Sheepdog's picture
Sheepdog Friday, 15 Oct 2021 at 5:20pm

One thing's for sure. Internet chat forums sure brings the best out in people.

san Guine's picture
san Guine's picture
san Guine Saturday, 16 Oct 2021 at 10:47am

Also know your 'poison' . The drug wheel...
https://adf.org.au/drug-facts/#wheel

velocityjohnno's picture
velocityjohnno's picture
velocityjohnno Sunday, 17 Oct 2021 at 5:57pm

Hey Blowin, for post above, are they really thinking of going 400K immigration? Is that in NSW alone? Ffffruck.

Supafreak's picture
Supafreak's picture
Supafreak Sunday, 17 Oct 2021 at 6:05pm

812662-A8-4-CE2-4-BDC-A137-8-BE42-BCA73-A6

Hutchy 19's picture
Hutchy 19's picture
Hutchy 19 Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 8:54am

Amazing how Perrottet has gone from a newly installed NSW premier to a full-blown national leader in a few weeks .

Ridiculed from the start by the left wing media for being religious ( Penny Wong is to ) he has shown what a difference true leadership can achieve .

Not only are the other premiers being forced to follow his lead but also the PM .

Dan the Man has relaxed restrictions while covid cases are surging . Bloody amazing . Qld as well and others will be forced to follow .

Such a breath of fresh air .

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 9:31am
blackers's picture
blackers's picture
blackers Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 10:01am
blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 10:09am

Sooner or later bullshit has consequences.

blackers's picture
blackers's picture
blackers Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 10:13am

Mushies may have something to do with it.
Love the magistrates comment: “You might rethink your sense of humour after tonight,”

Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 2:36pm

"Sooner or later bullshit has consequences."

On here??

Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson Tuesday, 19 Oct 2021 at 6:44pm
blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Wednesday, 20 Oct 2021 at 2:45pm

The study found about 40 per cent of all marine debris across Australia was from littering, particularly near capital cities where a lot of plastic ends up on the beach from stormwater drains.

https://energytransition.org/2018/09/norway-moves-ahead-with-carbon-capt...

Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 20 Oct 2021 at 7:04pm
san Guine's picture
san Guine's picture
san Guine Wednesday, 20 Oct 2021 at 7:30pm
Constance B Gibson wrote:

Call it a(nother) SN Litmus test:

https://junkee.com/pru-goward-welfare-weasels-afr/312364

Sneeringly patronising
" And yet, I like them. I like them because they call us out. They are honestly self-interested, and you always know what they think. I know many of them. So many clever, actually very clever, kids and adults, although often damaged and almost entirely lacking discipline, trust in the system, trust in anyone who represents the system."

Maybe we could yoke them, it works for oxen:
"I am convinced we can do better to harness the force that the people of the underclass represent."

Fliplid's picture
Fliplid's picture
Fliplid Wednesday, 20 Oct 2021 at 9:12pm

Quite a few ironys in that article

“they rejected the rules and lived by their own. They were to be feared and were, to use my mother’s words, not very nice. “

Christian Porter?

“their sharp and unrepentant manner when told to lift their game by the patronising do-gooder.”

Sports rorts?

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 8:40am

Her views are pretty much a neolib manifesto........make sure the upper classes keep (or increase) their wealth and power.

garyg1412's picture
garyg1412's picture
garyg1412 Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 8:45am

The only difference between the underclass and the upper class is public exposure. The upper class tend to hide their anti social behaviour better whereas the underclass are subject to public services (eg Centrelink, Legal Aid, etc) where their social data and anti social behaviour gets picked up by the media and in most instances becomes public knowledge.
Imagine if we could harness the nastiness of people like Prue Goward to educate future generations on how not to be a total c*&t to society.

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:13am

That's one of the most outrageous things I've read for a while.

I've shared the original article around so people can better understand how "the ruling class" really view the poor.

blindboy's picture
blindboy's picture
blindboy Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:19am

Not to mention the role neoliberal governments have played in increasing the underclass by reducing welfare, stalling wage growth and creating a whole new category of unregulated and underpaid work.

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:28am

The whole class issue continues to be one big sleight of hand.
And it's the last great taboo.

san Guine's picture
san Guine's picture
san Guine Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:32am

Untermensch?

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:40am

At the same time, to quote Lech Blaine, "squatters realised that they
could keep swagmen from fleecing their sheep by airbrushing the differences between them."

Fliplid's picture
Fliplid's picture
Fliplid Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:41am

Well san guine we're already dividing the country into those that have a go and those that don't so maybe it's the next step just to simplify things a bit.

Kind of interesting that the article isn't behind a paywall as well. Preaching to the converted and making sure it gets maximum exposure for the up coming election maybe.

A bit like the sudden change of heart about climate change policy from the Murdoch stable. Nothing to see here folks don't change your vote we've got it all sorted.

adam12's picture
adam12's picture
adam12 Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:46am

It was her use of the word "proles" that was so telling. She seems to be competing with Phil the Dill Coorey for dumbest op-ed at the AFR (Gladys the 'Woman Who Saved Australia.')
Meanwhile, yesterday in the House the Morrison Govt. effectively green lit corruption by dismantling the members register to protect Porter and not one MSM front page mentions it.
The truth about Porters donor must be bad for them to go this far to protect whoever it is. Under this government members can hide large cash 'donations'. Openly corrupt.

AndyM's picture
AndyM's picture
AndyM Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 9:52am

Something else to consider -

"According to Andrew Leigh’s book Battlers and Billionaires, Australia’s level
of inequality hit a seventy-year low in 1980.
The top 1 per cent’s share of household income sat at 5 per cent, while the top 0.01 per cent’s share sat at 1 per cent.
By 2010, the top 1 per cent’s share of the national income had almost doubled, to 9 per cent.
The top 0.01 per cent’s share of the national income had tripled, to 3 per cent.

This represented a $403-billion redistribution from the bottom 99 per cent to the top 1 per cent."

And as a result, wealth and income levels are so skewed between the top and the bottom that “average” indicators no longer reflect the average person’s experience or living conditions.

Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson's picture
Constance B Gibson Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 1:19pm

"The identity of Christian Porter’s anonymous donors for his disastrous attempt to sue the ABC is clearly an extraordinarily sensitive matter...

It’s not just Porter who is hypersensitive about the exposure of his mystery donors. Yesterday we found out that Scott Morrison is too. He humiliated Speaker Tony Smith rather than allow Porter’s blind trust declaration to go to the House of Reps’ Privileges Committee. Smith had found that there was a prima facie case for Porter’s referral for a breach of the Reps’ resolution on the declaration of members’ interests. Of course Smith did, because it was blindingly obvious that Porter’s alteration to his register of interests created a perception of conflict of interest.

Morrison prevented Porter’s referral, AN UNPRECEDENTED ACT — and richly symbolic of just how odiously corrupt and contemptuous of scrutiny this government is."

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/10/21/exposing-christian-porters-donors-s...

"Just who are Porter and Morrison protecting, sufficient that one will sacrifice his ministerial career and the other will throw his speaker under a bus? Why are their identities worth hiding at such great cost?"

The mail?

Kerry Stokes?! Conflict of interest or what??!!

"But it appears to be of zero fascination to much of the press gallery. The print media virtually ignored the overruling of Smith, despite its unprecedented nature and what it revealed about the government’s sensitivity about Porter’s donors.

Journalists, editors and producers still retain an institutional power to decide what qualifies as a “yarn”, and what doesn’t. And Morrison’s protection of Porter was deemed to be not yarn-worthy by newspapers — despite having all the ingredients of one, including a clear narrative of cover-up and political personalities."

Strap yourselves in...

adam12's picture
adam12's picture
adam12 Thursday, 21 Oct 2021 at 2:17pm

Stokes? He may be a bit reticent after backing the SAS big boy and his still going disaster. The twitterati reckon it's Palmer as it coincides with them working together on the High Court WA border challenge, I reckon it could be Gina as she likes to own LNP politicians, especially those from WA. It could be Al Queda or ISIS or Indonesian people smugglers which is the point of making it transparent.

GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley's picture
GuySmiley Sunday, 24 Oct 2021 at 5:40pm

D

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming Sunday, 24 Oct 2021 at 5:46pm

Yep people have fan's and haters, especially when they love to stir up shit.

Im not sure what your point is?

Before i lose my edit window, seems he does have a video on it, havent watched it yet though.

BTW. Guy, why have you deleted your comment on Avi?

indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming's picture
indo-dreaming Sunday, 24 Oct 2021 at 5:59pm

ha ha watched it, now i know why you deleted the comment (the one claiming i bet Avi doesn't post the incident etc ), you must have posted your comment before watching the whole incident and realised the dinners were complete dicks stirring up trouble and very aggressive even calling a by stander women the C word.

Body guard probably didnt need to use that much force though.