Do you like or hate Donald Trump, and why?

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dimitrios10 started the topic in Tuesday, 29 May 2018 at 5:10pm

I am curious if you guys like DonaldTrump, or do you hate him?

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blindboy commented Sunday, 6 Jan 2019 at 5:12pm

Thanks spuddy, Blowin has definitely changed my views in a few areas ....... but don't tell him I said that.

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 10 Jan 2019 at 8:10pm

Trump refuses to pay border guards until they build his border wall.
Border has never been as vulnerable as right now due to President's Shutdown.
Clearly Border Guards & security least concern Trump so why cry over The Wall?
Not paying staff is Trump's Signature now a stain on the Presidency. Sack him!

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Ralph commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 8:34am

I think if the tradies are funding negatively geared property than they wouldn't be tax dodgers. They would be declaring all their income so that they can write it off against their property losses. People who get paid in cash and don't declare it are tax dodgers. India abolished large denomination bank notes to force people out of the cash economy. I reckon our government should do the same. Who needs large amounts of cash apart from tax dodgers and criminals? Also I reckon the main reason the Australian economy is in good shape (compared to the rest of the world) is due more to the fact that Australia is so rich in natural resources rather than good management from the government,

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 9:02am

“ Not like those tax dodging tradies struggling to fund their third negatively geared property and doing it tough with only one OS holiday a year, and you know the poor bastards have to employ their wives to stay home and do the books 'cos shit ain't that a 40 hour a week job! It's a wonder they don't go mad with overwork.”

Hey that’s what I’m striving for ya asshole :-)

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 11:30am

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 11:39am

I saw this in the comments section of The Age on Trump & his wall.

The Democrats ought to pander to Trump's ego as the "great negotiator" and say to him if he gets Mexico to pay 1/2 the cost of the wall they will happily give him the cash for the other 1/2.

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Blowin commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 12:02pm

The Democrats CHOSE to push Hillary as their representation. Hillary would have spent waaaay more on another war than Trump would spend on the wall he was mandated to build when he was elected. Trump was elected , the Democrats with their war and intent to NOT build a wall weren’t.

Just allow the President to do his job and get back to burying your heads in the sand , Democrats.

Trump would not have had even the slightest chance of getting elected if the Democrats had been doing their jobs. Bit late to be trying to act like you give a fuck about the USA now.

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stunet commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 12:14pm

Mandated to build it, yes, but not to pay for it.

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Blowin commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 12:18pm

You doubt that Trump's supporters want the wall enough to pay the pittance to have it constructed ?

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 1:22pm

The Trump supporters should start a GoFundme page.....$5 bill shouldn't take long to raise.

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blindboy commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 1:25pm

Hmm roughly 2000 miles, approximately $25 million per mile that would be $50 billion. A pittance! Hey Blowin lend us a million will ya?

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stunet commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 1:28pm

Maybe Blowin, but that wasn't his "mandate".

Anyway, the whole thing is too dumb for serious concern. A sideshow to a circus.

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blindboy commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 1:42pm

More of a distraction from the main event Stu. Trump is desperately trying to keep media attention away from the recent developments in the Mueller investigation.

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 1:45pm

Spending, cost, heads in the sand blah blah .... just how much are Trump's tax cuts costing the rust belt punter and haven't they already paid enough with the loss of their health care?

Why not get all those mega wealthy who are millions/billions better off after Trump's tax cuts pay for the wall but wait wouldn't they want the endless stream of cheap labour crossing the boarder?

So what is the wall really about again?

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Blowin commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:01pm

The Meuller investigation !!

Classic.

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sypkan commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:15pm

Did someone say gofundme page?

https://au.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

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blindboy commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:36pm

Worth looking forward to!
"Donald Trump’s longtime lawyer and aide Michael Cohen says he has accepted an invitation from a top House Democrat to testify publicly before Congress next month.

Cohen’s 2017 congressional testimony before the Senate and House intelligence committees led to a guilty plea in November 2018 for lying under oath about Trump’s business dealings in Russia. In the plea, Cohen said: “I made these misstatements to be consistent with Individual 1’s political messaging and out of loyalty to Individual 1.”
Individual 1 was a reference to Trump."

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:45pm

Did someone say gofundme page?

https://au.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

Dumb yanks got the president they deserve.

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blindboy commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:54pm

Just when you think Trump is the undisputed champion fool of US politics ...... along comes the competition
"A nine-term Republican congressman and close ally of Donald Trump known for making racially provocative statements said in an interview published Thursday that he did not understand why the phrases “white nationalist” and “white supremacist” had “become offensive”.

Congressman Steve King, who has represented his rural Iowa district in Washington since 2003, made the remarks in an interview with the New York Times."

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blindboy commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:56pm

But hard to top this

"An old video of Donald Trump has been unearthed in which he says 'If there is a concrete wall in front of you, go through it'. "

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Westofthelake commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 2:56pm

At their current rate of approx $833 000/ day they will take another 3.3 years to raise a $billion.

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sypkan commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 3:30pm

And, in the old life imitates art debate....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=h1D2ynASqe4&feature=youtu.be

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Ralph commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 4:19pm

""Donald Trump’s longtime lawyer and aide Michael Cohen says he has accepted an invitation from a top House Democrat to testify publicly before Congress next month.

Cohen’s 2017 congressional testimony before the Senate and House intelligence committees led to a guilty plea in November 2018 for lying under oath about Trump’s business dealings in Russia."

If Cohen has already admitted lying under oath why would anyone believe what he says when he testifies before congress???

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blindboy commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 4:44pm

Well that would be a second offence. Since he is already going to jail for the first offence presumably he would be looking at an additional, longer sentence if he did it again. It is easy to underestimate the seriousness of this issue. The data he passed on was detailed and allowed the Russians to target the voters most likely to swing in favour of Trump. Personally I think he is lucky not to be charged with treason since it was clearly intended to undermine the integrity of the Presidential election.

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I focus commented Friday, 11 Jan 2019 at 11:15pm

Republicans have had the majority in both the Senate and Reps for two years how come they didn't build Trumps wall?

Why wait until the Dems hold the house of Reps to shutdown government?

As BB said any thing the blowhard does are only distractions.

Maybe wrong but would bet Cohen will drop a few bomb shells

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 8:14am

I think you are right focus. The Dems and Mueller are both concerned that Trump will try to shut down the investigation so they want to put some of the evidence he has collected on the public record. Testifying in Congress is one way of doing that. Mueller can also include evidence against Trump in indictments against others.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 10:36am

A serious, unbiased analysis of the possible impeachment from Politico. Well worth a read.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/01/11/trump-impeachment-gui...

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 12:48pm

Whats going on with Trump's super baggy pants? Reckon he wears a nappy?

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wax-on-danielson commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 12:52pm

In my opinion anyone ignorant and obnoxious on environmental issues is a fuckwit. Someone in his position that has research and advice provided from NASA amongst others and evidentially the power to try to do something - to then completely ignor the facts and take his stance saying global warming is not true - he should be shot. The entire planet has to bare the consequences of the pig-headed unsubstantiated opinion of one cunt.

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Westofthelake commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 12:53pm

Good stuff bb.
The last sentence kinda summed it up for me,
"It’s better off to run against a wounded Trump than to drive Trump out of office."
OR
Time for a smoking gun or 2, otherwise the process could utterly backfire.
Time will tell.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 12:53pm

Guy, I had been suppressing that thought. I would also, based on available descriptions of the relevant body part, diagnose a severe case of Peyronie's Disease.

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 4:15pm

@wax-on saying as it, people like him shouldn't be put in charge of a shopping trolley.
@bb, nor would he be suffering from priapism, nah double incontinent is Trump, poos and wees I'm afraid .... bahahahaha. #fakenews?

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 5:54pm

So the FBI investigated the President for potential treason? Holy hell!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/11/donald-trump-fbi-investi...

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Westofthelake commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 6:20pm

Apologies in advance but couldn't resist...

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sypkan commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 6:48pm

Given all the talk floating around - for two and half years now!- I'd be surprised and disappointed if the FBI didn't investigate trunp for treason.

However...

“..."The fact that it goes back a year and a half and nothing came of it that showed a breach of national security means they found nothing,” Giuliani told the paper."

That quote pretty much cancels out the rest of the article. Good on em for putting it in, but they destroyed their own argument.

Just more huff and bluster.

Nothing new. Nothing substantial.

How many times are they gonna flog the manafort story?

Squeezing all the mileage possible from the whole saga. They're gonna look really really dumb if they can't manufacture something significant soon from the big ruse.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jan/11/donald-trump-fbi-investi...

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sypkan commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 8:35pm

This whole wall debate has become so dumb. So so dumb.

And it's the media's fault for presenting a dumb, partisan, dangerously bias picture....again! Keeping the whole debate in realm of the year ten level, today tonigh style, either / or debate. Just where they like it...

Trump burst on the scene, as the joke he is, yelling and blathering about a "big beautiful wall". Even he didn't take himself seriously, knowing he had no chance of winning the election.

But he did win the election.

With his crazy talk symbolism of a "big beautiful wall".

"...Hmm roughly 2000 miles, approximately $25 million per mile that would be $50 billion. A pittance! Hey Blowin lend us a million will ya?"

You're smarter than that blindboy. Even you must know he's not talking about a big beautiful wall monilithic structure from coast to coast. It's about a make up of strategies to address a problem. Many problems, that are all represented by his crude symbolism.

"...It's already illegal to be in the US without authorisation, and by extension illegal to work in the US without authorisation. If US companies are employing ilegal workers then it's obvious where the govt should focus their efforts."

Yep, but the 'progressive' side of the democrats do all they can to make it beyond impossible to address these issues, pushing their own symbolism, based around an open borders dream.

I'm not sure how many traditional democrats share that dream....anymore....currently....or ever, for some. They'd like to talk about immigration, for a host of reasons, but the party ain't listening...again! So the debate remains gutter level, year ten, Wall versus No Wall, polarising poles that are already stretched to the limit.

A just a little bit more balanced than most look at 'the wall'....

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/democrats-cynical-...

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 8:23pm

The Wall originated on the campaign trail, not as important policy, but as a catch phrase that Trump could throw out when he couldn't remember what he was supposed to be saying. So the wall debate was dumb from the start because it wasn't even a real idea, it was a bit of filler that caught on so he was stuck with it. You cannot manufacture an intelligent debate about a non-idea, an accidental bit of baggage. Year 10, that's insulting ...... to year 10 students. Trump's language is Primary level at best.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 8:27pm

.... and sypkan, you do know that Giuliana is Trump's lawyer? So what did you expect him to say. Always handy to remember that in terms of the law, not guilty does not mean innocent.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 8:47pm

As I said, the wall is symbolism. Crude symbolism to break through some big barriers. The democrats have just denied there's any debate to be had.

Yep it's campaign baggage. And it's ridiculous, morphed into craziness. But the democrats have their own baggage too, but they don't even know it, or so it seems...

Yep guliano is trump's lawyer, but that doesn't change that the statement is true blindboy.

So long. So many resources. Still not much.

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CryptoKnight commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 9:00pm

Look, ok, sure, its gone down the fucking gurgler... it was always on the cards... its the way of the 'wild' but eternally fraggy, cray cray west!!!? Our boy donny's got his finger on the delete the whole fuck'n show button... again... in a nutshell...

But fuck'n donny... really!!!? That whole fucking notion was once considered a fucking sick joke. The stuff of doodles. Scientific even fuck'n doodles. A sick fucking joke... wake us up... we must be fucking dreamin'...

But, well, in a nutshell, it ain't no fucking dream...

And, just when you think the fucking dream them fuck'n doodles couldn't get any fucking worse... its only just begun... the dream becomes a fucking ludicrous nightmare...

https://nypost.com/2017/01/15/trumps-friend-fell-in-love-with-dog-she-of...

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 9:04pm

Not much sypkan? No, just good security, no leaks. Mueller has plenty. Wait and watch.

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sypkan commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 9:07pm

I'm waiting

Still

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blindboy commented Saturday, 12 Jan 2019 at 9:23pm

Good things come to those who are patient.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 9:04am

I thought Trump was meant to have destroyed the world in a nuclear holocaust by now ?

Weren’t we at 1 minute to midnight two years ago ?

All the models said we should be dead by now.

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I focus commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 10:02am

Trump is saving that distraction button for when the excreta hits the proverbial, Trump would not be the 1st politician to go to war for survival still early days Blowin.

Still would Trump go to war? He cannot fire people face to face gets the underlings to do it.

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sharkman commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 10:29am

Trump is already at war , Trade wars!

He inherited one of the strongest performing economies on the planet, went to war with the EU/China /Canada/South America , and now talk of a recession , not bad for 2 years work, oh and yes he is losing the Trade war with China ...so back to the wall and now there's a new bigger Caravan of extremist terrorist Hondourans preparing to invade the USA...soon sad!

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blindboy commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 11:25am

Risk Blowin! The concept of risk. You know, the POSSIBILITY, that something might happen. If you drive a car with poor brakes your RISK of killing yourself or someone else increases. It might not happen, but it is a risk worth avoiding. When it comes to nuclear war the only acceptable level of risk is zero. That might be currently unattainable but that cannot justify that bloated man child actively increasing it as he did particularly in his early insults to North Korea. There is only one reason that North Korea would use nuclear weapons and that is if they believe that a nuclear attack from the US was about to occur. Trump came way too close to convincing them that was the case, for what? To boost his infantile ego. And now, for all his posturing with the Korean leaders, where are we? Back to square one. North Korea still has its nukes and has never had the slightest intention of relinquishing them unless the US did also. So what did nappy boy actually achieve? Not a damn thing except increasing the risk of nuclear war...... and some people are stupid enough to think that he does not continue to be a threat to world peace. He does and will continue to be so.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 11:34am

Unsubstantiated garbage, BB.

The world is in no more danger than when Obama was in charge , despite the shrill cries from the panic mongers.

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blindboy commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 12:25pm

Unsubstantiated? You have to be kidding but then again what does the deeply considered opinion of the world’s nuclear scientists, with access to all the information, mean compared to the insights of Blowin The Great. Mate wake up to yourself, your efforts are becoming embarrassing.

“The greatest risks last year arose in the nuclear realm. North Korea’s nuclear weapons program made remarkable progress in 2017, increasing risks to North Korea itself, other countries in the region, and the United States. Hyperbolic rhetoric and provocative actions by both sides have increased the possibility of nuclear war by accident or miscalculation.”

“But there has also been a breakdown in the international order that has been dangerously exacerbated by recent US actions. In 2017,the United States backed away from its long- standing leadership role in the world, reducing its commitment to seek common ground and undermining the overall effort toward solving pressing global governance challenges. Neither allies nor adversaries have been able to reliably predict US actions—or understand when US pronouncements are real, and when they are mere rhetoric. International diplomacy has been reduced to name-calling, giving it a surrealistic sense of unreality that makes the world security situation ever more threatening.”

https://thebulletin.org/sites/default/files/2018%20Doomsday%20Clock%20St...

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Blowin commented Sunday, 13 Jan 2019 at 3:08pm

Well , so far I was right and they were wrong , how’s that sound ?

Also , the fact of being educated in the workings of nuclear equipment does not guarantee you have any more of an ironclad correct opinion on politics than anyone else.

Fear mongering nerds are just like every other type of fear monger.

I know you like facts , BB. So here is a fact : The US is involved in no greater amount of wars initiated since a president began his term for the first time in decades. If the fuckwits let him get out of Syria it’d be even better. Less wars is good, remember ?

Doomsday clock.....FFS. You sound like someone emerging from a time warp , deep freeze ala Austin Powers.