Radical Curves: Sidecuts in surfboard design

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
Design Outline

Through the endless variations of surfboard design there's one element that's remained fairly true over the years – the planshape. Yeah, we've seen wide noses, swallow tails, triple flyers and other design deviations in the outline but the constant has been a nose curving out to a wide point before bending back toward the stringer and meeting again at the tail.

A shape that, when viewed in silhouette, approximates a spear with the same sleek aesthetic appeal and assumed performance characteristics.

Recently I rode a board that did away with this norm. The Camel Toe was shaped by Cory Russell of Cory Surfboards in Ocean Grove, Victoria, and it features a sidecut between the front and back foot. The unorthodox outline challenges what we know – at least what we assume we know – about surfboard design.

Initial sideline comments were the board would catch on the hips where the sidecut bent back out, or it would interrupt water flow slowing the board. The Camel Toe did neither.

Cory wasn't the first person to incorporate a sidecut (or inverted outline as he calls it) into surfboard design. The first shaper I'm aware of is Ulladulla's Michael Mackie, although as is often the case in the design process he adopted it from elsewhere.

"I got the idea from snowsurfing." Mick told me when I spoke to him. "Being a shaper and snowsurfer I remembered an old SW issue from 1979 that had an article about The Winterstick snowboard designed by Wayne Stoveken and Dimitrije Milovich. The design interested me when it first came out but I wasn't snowsurfing back then. When I did start snowsurfing it made sense to re-check out the article and design of the 'Stick again."

Contrary to Cory Russell's sidecut scoop between the front and back foot, Mick's sidecut is much more subtle beginning in the back third of the board and running out through the tail (see image 1). He uses them exclusively on his fish designs. As for why it works, "The sidecut gives you an arc to drive and run through your turn." Calling upon its snowboard roots Mick says it's "the same as doing a carve turn on a snowboard. It really just gives you more rail in the water as you go through your turn which adds up to more bite and control."

Mick notes that snowboard sidecut works well in tandem with flex so that's something else he's been working on with his boards. His Rocket Fish design all feature a flex tail. He speaks reverently about Mitchell Rae of Outer Island Surfboards and his work with flex though that's another topic for another article.

Hayden Cox of Haydenshapes is another shaper experimenting with sidecut. He currently has two boards in his range featuring the design – the Merlot and the Psychedelic Germ. Hayden is quick to cite Mick Mackie as the inspiration for the design, though following the design tradition of 'adopting and evolving' he's put his own spin on it.

The most obvious difference is that Hayden's sidecuts are shorter, deeper, and don't end at the tail (image 2). The sidecut curves back out meeting the traditional planshape around a foot up from the tail. The best description is that they look like a reverse flyer. The shorter sidecut, Hayden says, makes "for a tight radius arc to allow the board to carve in tight pockets in the wave."

According to Hayden, "The sidecut changes the water flow along the rail line of your board. The result is that when on rail the board takes a path of its own following this curve." The shorter, more compact radius of the sidecut reflects the turns Hayden expects the boards to be doing. "I have gone for a tight radius arc to allow the board to carve in tight pockets in the wave. The feeling is that the board wants to turn on these tighter arcs."

Matching the arc of the sidecut to the curve of a wave face makes sense, till you realise waves have curves of various sizes. This is something Hayden is acutely aware of. "The main disadvantage [of sidecuts] is that it can limit the size range of waves that the board will perform best in. For example, if you are on a 12 foot wave you will find the board drawing lines that are a little tight for that open face wave. Or if you design the side cut to surf big open face waves it won't want to turn tight in the pocket on a 3 foot face wave." As it is, Hayden's believes his models will go well in waves up to 8 feet.

Hayden thinks we'll start seeing more of the design as shapers learn how to utilise these curves into their shapes. His sidecuts work because they complement the other design aspects of the shape. It's a sentiment shared by Cory Russell who combined the sidecut of the Camel Toe to work in harmony with its other radical features.

Like Hayden, Cory's sidecut is a shorter radius arc between the front and back foot (image 3). His design rationale is similar too. "The change in the outline creates extra manoeuvrability and increased response. This occurs due to the change in water flow around the perimeter of the board." The sidecut also needs to be between the feet for it to work the way he intends. Cory observes that this is also the case for modern snowboards where the sidecut is centred to cater for switchfoot riding. In another nod to flex he mentions how snowboard sidecut utilises flex and surfboard sidecut could be a way to introduce it in an accurate, controlled manner. Keep an eye out for that coming article...

When it comes to disadvantages of the sidecut, Cory sees the only hinderance being a surfer's learned behaviour. As he says, "All the doubts and fears people may have are quickly laid to rest when they get the opportunity to surf the board and experience its nuances."

I asked Cory if people would ever get beyond the unorthodox design and accept it as normal. "It is completely up to the market place," said Cory, before citing Geoff McCoy and his Lazor Zaps as an example of changing design whims. "Geoff is probably making ten times more Lazor Zap's now than he was back in the Eighties. The design is the same but the market place's perception has changed."

It might be argued that Lazor Zap's are popular due to the nostalgic kick yet Cory is adamant that the properties of sidecuts should be fully explored to further surfboard performance, "I would love to see this design and many other unconventional designs explored in an attempt to push surfboard design to the next level."

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Sidecuts are a relatively new area of board design and each shaper gave lengthy explanations. Space restrictions prevent me from repeating them in full but if you wish to find out more contact: Mackie Surfboards Haydenshapes Cory Surfboards

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top-to-bottom-bells Friday, 18 May 2012 at 9:29am

I saw my first sidecut board a couple of weeks back when a guy put one down on the carpark next to me (a HS shape but I dont know which one). I read the Camel Toe review but had never seen a sidecut, not even one of Michael Mackies fish. The theory seems OK on MM's sidecuts when you'd be doing longer drawn out turns but I can't see how the smaller sidecuts (HS and Cory) wouldn't interupt water flow. Unless you're doing really short turns with 3/4 of the rail out of the water?

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heals Friday, 18 May 2012 at 10:43am

What do you mean 'space restrictions'? This is the internet, you can write as far as I can scroll.

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schmicka Friday, 18 May 2012 at 10:52am

Another shaper looking at this side cut in longboards is Tyler Hatzikian, shapes traditional logs but this model is a bit left of field.

http://www.tylersurfboards.com/riddler/

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cahill Friday, 18 May 2012 at 11:40am

I was the first test rider of the Cory Surfboards Camel Toe (see swellnet's review here http://www.swellnet.com.au/news/2774-the-camel-toe-by-cory-surfboards) and am a strong believer in the "side cut" as being a completely functional design in surfboards.

@dewhurst is on the money, the rocker and concave is crucial to the performance of the boards.

I know from personal experience that the Cory Surfboards model has a a vastly different rocker and concave to his other models.

Yes these alternative board designs may not be ideal for 6ft roaring Bells Bowl, but they well and truly have a place for enhanced performance in mediocre waves that you see more often than not on our coastlines.

This clip has myself and Josh Johnson Baxter rode the very first Cory Surfboards cameltoe for the first time. Since then we have improved our performance and refined the model even further http://vimeo.com/35866143

It is easy to sit at our computers and pass comments about interrupted water flow, but the only way to make a true judgment is to contact Cory (www.corysurfboards.com) or Hayden or Mackie and try it for yourself.

I have ridden one, I personally know the added performance and fun that these shapes offer.

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norv Friday, 18 May 2012 at 11:44am

Not dissing the current crop at all, but sidecuts have been around for years - Greg Webber was doing them c. 2000, and way, way before that there were "ski tail" kneeboards and surfboards, with sidecut in the tail.
I did a sidecut skimboard c. 2000, bad idea, I normalized the planshape and gave it to my dog ;) But props to anyone prepared to put the time and effort into something a little bit different :)

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stunet Friday, 18 May 2012 at 12:39pm

G'Day Norv,

I was chatting to Greg Webber about sidecuts a few months ago. In fact, he was also going to contribute to the article but he's busy making waves these days. It's debatable who was first of the modern crop to work with sidecuts, Mackie or Webber, as both were working on them around 2000. In any case, I didn't intend this article to be an historical 'who invented it' expose. I'm more curious in sidecuts as a maligned and relatively under-utilised area of design.

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stunet Friday, 18 May 2012 at 12:44pm

I think that Webber's wave pools will be the ideal environment to test and refine sidecuts. I imagine wavepools would have a fairly uniform wave curve so shapers should be able to devise designs that fit it perfectly. Sidecuts would come into their own then.

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cory Friday, 18 May 2012 at 1:03pm

Hey Stu... You have identified the best reason for the creation of wave pools, R & D. The waves are the most inconsistent element in surfing and being able to control that element should see a huge leap forward in designs. It will also allow for proper testing of surfboard designs and construction materials. It's definitely exciting to think about!

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norv Friday, 18 May 2012 at 1:15pm

No criticism intended Stu :) Different is good!
I'm thinking maybe it was Steve Zoeller doing the ski tails back in the day. And although I don't think he used sidecuts per se, Nat Young was/is a keen single skier/Winterstick-er who was consciously trying to incorporate the ski experience into his surf designs. There's the lunch bell, that's it for History today ;)

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stunet Friday, 18 May 2012 at 1:19pm

“Nothing is original. Steal from anywhere that resonates with inspiration or fuels your imagination. Devour old films, new films, surfboard designs, music, books, paintings, photographs, poems, dreams, random conversations, architecture, bridges, street signs, trees, clouds, bodies of water, light and shadows. Select only things to steal from that speak directly to your soul. If you do this, your work (and theft) will be authentic. Authenticity is invaluable; originality is non-existent. And don’t bother concealing your thievery - celebrate it if you feel like it. In any case, always remember what Jean-Luc Godard said: “It’s not where you take things from - it’s where you take them to.”

― Jim Jarmusch (who knew he surfed, eh?)

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stunet Friday, 18 May 2012 at 1:21pm

"Surfboard design is a long line of beggars and thieves."

― Robert Plant (another surprise surfer)

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more Friday, 18 May 2012 at 7:10pm

Cal Liddel from Angas has been dabbling with them for years too, he is trying some different stuff and is also a damn fine glasser and good bloke too...

testing boards in wave pools will make good boards for wave pools...

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more Friday, 18 May 2012 at 7:21pm

good on these guys for pushing design limits and going down a road that is nuthin less than frustrating, when you know ( or belive ) what you are doing have definite performance benefits but the public arent open to it because of preconceived ideas due to years and years or seeing a certain type of shape...every design was new and looked at weirdly once upon a time...if KS jumps on the toe of a camel and wins Fiji, all of a sudden, these are the ducks nuts...thats just the farked up mentailty of the herd...I wanna ride one....

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stunet Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 at 10:32am

It's not just the shapers mentioned above that have been experimenting with sidecuts. Check this photo, Greg Webber with a sidecut board shaped in 1999.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/stunet/5-1_zps0f931cfb.jpg

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dellabeach Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 at 11:24am

Meyerhoffer is another thinking outside the box.

http://meyerhoffersurf.com/slipin/index.php

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floyd Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 at 12:23pm

Good article Stu, especially citing the work Mick Mackie is quietly doing down the south coast.

Andrew Kidman's excellent book/DVD Lost in the Ether goes into a lot of detail on how Mick Mackie took his inspiration from the Wintersticks years back. Well work a look if Andrew Kidman hasn't sold the last of his 1,000 copies yet.

http://www.mackiesurfboards.com.au
http://www.andrewkidman.com

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stunet Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 at 1:08pm

Cheers Floyd. He's a very respectful fellow, is Mick Mackie, always deferring to those who pioneered certain designs and innovations. When I mentioned writing an article on flex tail surfboards, Mick was blunt. "You've got to speak to Mitchell Rae first. Speak to him and then I'll talk," he said. He's not one to steal someone else's thunder.

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batfink_and_karate Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 at 4:23pm

Hinderance!

Hinderance?

Naughty Stu.

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benski Wednesday, 16 Jan 2013 at 4:34pm

Really interesting. I've been wondering about this over the past two years as I've taken up skiing. But I haven't been able to imagine how it would improve surfboard performance.

The biggest question that comes to mind is what happens when you're in the barrel? Does it want to carve a turn cos your rail is engaged?

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stunet Thursday, 17 Jan 2013 at 9:51am

C'mon B&K,

Clearly 'hindrance' is a derivative of 'hinder', the meanings being similar. Therefore it would be logical to spell hindrance as hinderance, and I'm nothing if not logical.

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mirandonsurfboards Wednesday, 15 May 2013 at 10:49am

Yes they work and we have been at em a long time. My uncle started in the seventies my dad made one early 2000's


http://elisurfing.blogspot.com/2010/10/double-porpoise-tri-fin-surfboard...

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stunet Wednesday, 15 May 2013 at 12:32pm

Woah...those are extreme versions! The surfing in the first clip is damn good considering the planshape. I mean, I've ridden a few sidecuts but none of them have been as pronounced as the board ridden in that video.

I recently test rode Hayden Shapes 'Psychedelic Germ' which has a very subtle sidecut compared to other boards I'd ridden (and definitely more subtle than the board in the video). I found the shallow sidecut on the Germ worked more like a flyer than anything else: it breaks the rail line allowing release out of turns but it doesn't create a short turning arc like other, deeper sidecut boards I'd ridden.

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garry-weed Wednesday, 15 May 2013 at 4:07pm

Erm...Meyerhofer.Not even a surfer I understand.

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mirandonsurfboards Saturday, 18 May 2013 at 4:36am

The boards work good in the barrel. I feel like its got more control because water is going up and you've taken area out of the board that doesn't get sucked up as well as different turning points...

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Roy Stuart Tuesday, 7 Jan 2014 at 7:11am

I have no doubt that the incut design works and that the difference can be felt by the riders, however the explanations given for how this difference occurs and what it is are not explanations at all. This happens often when designs are dreamed up then tested in the water without a theoretical basis, and is understandable, but it would be better to say that one doesn't know why it works than to offer pseudo explanations.

It is nice to see that the usual 'Meyerhoffer thought of this' nonsense has been avoided.

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stunet Thursday, 3 Dec 2015 at 9:08pm

Hayden Cox is curently shaping guns for Ben Wilkinson with subtle sidecuts running out the rear. There's a scaled down version of Big Ben's ten footer in Hayden's new showroom.
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I'm not aware of any other contemporary shaper, aside from Mick Mackie, who's experimenting with the sidecuts as much as Hayden. The board above isn't in production, however there are two models, the Psychedelic Germ and Merlot, with the cuts and by the sounds of it another is on the way.

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Roy Stuart Thursday, 3 Dec 2015 at 9:49pm

Is that so?

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stunet Tuesday, 30 Jan 2018 at 3:16pm

HaydenShapes latest model, The Holy Grail, is another HS that uses sidecuts. I think that's four models he's created using the feature. Hayden's copped some grief about the ubiquity of the Hypto Krypto but those same people ignore his willingness to explore the backwoods of design.

https://www.haydenshapes.com/surfboard/holy-grail/