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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 10:26am

If Trump runs for 2024, i wouldn't write him off just yet, historically he is a long shot to get relected, but Trump and the election in 2020 were all very unique circumstances, if Covid hadn't hit the election result could have been quite different.

And there is quite vocal pushback gaining traction against Biden now this whole "Lets go Brandon" thing, who knows how things will be viewed in another 3 years or what might come out or happen or who he would be up against, the fact people might think he has no chance could again be the factor that provides him a chance.

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lostdoggy Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 11:00am

I reckon Trump's health will wane too much for him to campaign hard for 2024.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 6:25pm

Let's go Brandon!

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batfink Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 3:48pm
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bernie had to be shut down, just like tulsi...

but the hardcore (fake) lefties on here won't even talk about that... preserving the 'brand' always comes before any rational discussion...

it's bloody nauseating

What have you read that has left you feeling that hardcore, fake lefties won’t even talk about Bernie being shut down. Or perhaps that is a silly question. What have you not read that led you to thinking that hardcore, fake lefties won’t even talk about Bernie being shut down?

Serious question.

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Supafreak Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 6:02pm

November 07, 2021 - 02:58 PM EST
Biden approval rating drops to new low of 38 percent: poll. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/580460-biden-approval-rating...

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pigman Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 6:50pm

who gives a shit about bidens approval rating ?

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Supafreak Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 6:53pm
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who gives a shit about bidens approval rating ?

Probably the people who voted for him and possibly the Democrats

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:08pm

"Probably the people who voted for him and possibly the Democrats"

they sure do...

there's a bit a 'moral panic' setting in

panic anyway...

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:16pm

but, speaking of moral panic...

a good vid

what's woke and what's not...

white righteousness..

educational snobbery...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/11/07/batya_ungar-sargon_me...

seems even cnn is working on their self reflection skills after the recent panic inducing results...

time for donny lemon and co. to get up to speed?

you ain't black!

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freeride76 Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:15pm

be interesting to see how the politics of the infrastructure spending bill play out.

If the USA goes into an economic boom then Biden may have to do nothing except hope Trump runs.

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:18pm

"be interesting to see how the politics of the infrastructure spending bill play out.

If the USA goes into an economic boom then Biden may have to do nothing except hope Trump runs."

why hope trump runs?

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:22pm

...seen smart dudes say biden is gonna overcook it...

on the back of trump's big spending / corona measures, the economy already a bit of a run away

inflationary problems...

biden's big spend not really neccesary... purely ideological... could be setting up a disaster... for himself and the dems...

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:33pm

you seem to have missed two key words batfink...

'on here'

the context was, you cannot even consider criticising the democrats, or the left more widely, ...on here... without getting belittled and labelled

a somewhat sensitive set 'on here'...

blows me away how there are mature conversations on abc radio every single day, very similar to the discourse that runs on here...

...without all the perpetually triggered, deplatforming, censorious toys out of cot bullshit you see on here...

blows me away!

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:34pm

they even give jacinta price a run!

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:35pm

one would think that's the devil's work if you took the clowns on here too seriously

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blindboy Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:38pm

Talking to yourself again mate. Five in a row might be a record.

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Supafreak Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:51pm

Speaking of clowns ……… 8-A283381-E873-451-C-9297-A86-DC9305-F6-E

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freeride76 Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:03pm
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"be interesting to see how the politics of the infrastructure spending bill play out.

If the USA goes into an economic boom then Biden may have to do nothing except hope Trump runs."

why hope trump runs?

I think people voted Trump out .

He also couldn't get infrastructure done.

It was always "2 weeks away".

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:22pm

go bobo

keep batting for bozo

the billionaire!

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freeride76 Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:22pm

Personally I think this infrastructure Bill is yuuuuggge, as Bernie would say.

Massive amounts of money being poured in construction: bridges, roads, railways, ports etc etc.

With that come huge amounts of high paying construction jobs.

I think the US Will see a massive boom on the back of this.

Bigger maybe than the Roaring 20's boom after the Spanish Flu.

If Biden can rebuild an American Middle/Working Class on the back of a govt led construction boom- ironically Trumps so-called people, it'll be monumental.

But we'll see, thats just my prediction.

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:29pm

I agree freeride

but it could also blow inflation out of the ball park!!

supply chains struggling

wages booming to fill positions

...and 'infrastructure' is now a very loose term...

personally I think a lot of it is much needed in a very run down US... but how it is done will determine its success or not...

we will see

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Supafreak Tuesday, 9 Nov 2021 at 5:33pm

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Supafreak Tuesday, 9 Nov 2021 at 6:39pm

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:36am

It ain't over 'til it's over.

"WASHINGTON — Thirteen of President Donald J. Trump’s most senior aides — including his son-in-law and his chief of staff — campaigned illegally for Mr. Trump’s re-election in violation of a law designed to prevent federal employees from abusing the power of their offices on behalf of candidates, a government watchdog agency said Tuesday.

Henry Kerner, who heads the Office of Special Counsel, made the assertion in a withering report that followed a nearly yearlong investigation into “myriad” violations of the law, known as the Hatch Act.

“Senior Trump administration officials chose to use their official authority not for the legitimate functions of the government, but to promote the re-election of President Trump in violation of the law,” the report concluded.

Investigators in Mr. Kerner’s office said Trump administration officials purposely violated the law prohibiting political activity during the final few weeks of the administration, when they knew that the Office of Special Counsel would not have time to investigate and issue findings before Election Day."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/09/us/politics/trump-officials-illegal-c...

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:49am

Blindboy has his Trump Boner back! First non-chemically induced erection for a year for the old bugger.

Congratulations BB!

It’s a shame that watching the Biden/ Harris shitshow unravel doesn’t get the same blood flow otherwise you could put away your blue pills for good.

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zenagain Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:50am

"The Office of Special Counsel report notes that none of the people named will face any punishment for their violations because it is up to the incumbent president to discipline his top employees."

Sounds pretty over to me. Am I missing something?

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:09pm

So insults are all you have Blowin? You really are a complete creep. When was the last time you said anything remotely thst offensive to anyone in real life? Never I reckon because you are a slimy low life fuckin' coward.

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:17pm

Cop it sweet, dickhead.

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:40pm

zen, the reason it isn't over is that, as they say, the wheels of justice grind slowly, but exceedingly fine. And those wheels are still very much in motion on Trump and his associates. Bannon looks certain to face criminal charges for contempt and there are numerous other investigations still running. Apart from the legal consequences, there is also the erosion of support for Trump himself. His approval rating has been in steady decline and on going revelations about his role in the Capitol riot are not going to help. The main punishment for them all yet may be in the court of public opinion as the sordid details of their attempt to disrupt the legitimate functions of the Presidential election emerge.

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:57pm

Which penny is that Facto? The penny which says that you don’t like my online personality and so you’d like to see it removed? Or are you concerned about Blindboy’s welfare now? I’m sure he’s a big boy and he can threaten to sue me for everything I own again if the laughs at his expense get too burdensome for his precious self esteem to sustain.

Despite being in possession of a well earned reputation for drumming up Anti -Trump fake news rhetoric, old mate BB still hasn’t satisfied his urge so he’s back to have another bite at the Russia Russia Russia cherry. I can hardly be blamed for being the lucky fella who throws the first rotten tomato when he’s been caught with his pants down and dog-locked into that squealing pig of a scenario again.

Look above….he’s still going! He reminds me of that Japanese soldier who was lost in the Pacific islands and still fighting WW2 until 1967. Go Blindboy…..get Trump!

Uncover the pee tape! Lolol

Smoking gun!!!!!!

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 1:01pm

Blowin your approach is to try and shut down anyone who disagrees with your own perverted views with insults and abuse. And yeh it works a lot of the time because, really who can be bothered dealing with the same boofheaded nonsene when the level of the discussion drops to that level? Get rid of you? I doubt SN would get many complaints if they did. Their philosophy seems to be to encourage the kind of open discussions you are constantly trying to shut down.

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 4:14pm

Justice rolls on.

"A federal judge has rejected former President Donald Trump’s effort to block Jan. 6 investigators from accessing White House records related to his attempt to overturn the 2020 election, determining that he has no authority to overrule President Joe Biden’s decision to waive executive privilege and release the materials to Congress………..Legal experts said Chutkan’s ruling reflected the relatively thin case Trump had to prevent his records from going to Congress.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/09/trump-executive-privilege-court...

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 4:51pm

Ok …here we are exposed to yet more of Blindboy’s utterly ludicrous Anti-Trump nonsense. It’s been five long years since he first popped his ageing gaskets over the Trump Russiagate hoax. Some may have heard the term Russiagate over and over without understanding exactly wha5 was going on. They had been fed thousands of political lies over the years and many people were so inundated with the bullshit that they even started to think some of it was true.

And yet all of a sudden it all vanished…..poof! What of the weekly “ Gotcha!” and “ This is the Smoking gun on Trump and Russia collusion! “ stories? What of the infamous Mueller investigation ? How did such a concerted effort to falsely frame a US President all come about and where is it all now?

Read on…..

“Last week, John Durham’s grand jury issued its third criminal indictment in the Trump-Russia collusion hoax. The person who was arrested may be obscure; the news may have been buried after Virginia’s bombshell election results; but Durham’s move is a big deal. It shows that the special counsel’s probe is methodically unraveling a huge conspiracy, seemingly engineered by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and implicating James Comey’s FBI, either as a willing participant or as utterly incompetent boobs.

The latest indictment also damages the mainstream media, which is why so many news outlets have ignored or underplayed it. After all, they broadcast a false story for years and are none too eager to revisit it. Other losers are the prosecutors assembled by Robert Mueller, most of them Democrats, who had reams of this damaging information and ignored it.

What Durham and a few intrepid reporters are uncovering may well be the most ambitious dirty trick pulled in an American election and its aftermath. The question now is whether Durham can expose the full extent of this malfeasance and charge those who planned and executed it.

Durham’s latest indictment charges Igor Danchenko (pictured) with lying multiple times to the FBI. Danchenko, who worked at the Brookings Institution as a Russian expert, may not be a household name, but he was a crucial player in concocting the false story that Donald Trump was collaborating with the Kremlin to win the White House. The real conspiracy, it turns out, was aimed at Trump and was conducted by the Clinton campaign and her longtime associates. It was financed jointly by Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee. Some leaked emails suggested it was approved by the candidate herself. The FBI continued running with it long after it had ample evidence to know it was a concoction. House Democrats ran with it even longer, basking in fulsome, uncritical media coverage. All of it was false.

The Danchenko indictment matters because his bogus information was the heart of the “Steele dossier,” which, in turn, was the heart of the anti-Trump investigation. The dossier was compiled by a former British spy, Christopher Steele, who had been hired by people working for Clinton. Steele claimed his information about Trump, including salacious sexual allegations, came from Russian sources. It didn’t. It came from Danchenko, who was working at a Washington think tank. As Danchenko admitted to the FBI, much of what he told Steele was old rumors or exaggerations. Some of it appears to have been simply fabricated. Steele incorporated it, and the Democrats deployed it.

The FBI interviewed Danchenko multiple times in January 2017, around the time Trump was taking office. Comey’s FBI had already received the dossier and his agents were trying to verify its allegations. They couldn’t do so, and Danchenko’s admissions told them why. His interrogation should have immediately stopped the FBI from using the dossier to investigate Trump. So should a warning from Bruce Ohr, the highest-ranking career official in the Department of Justice, that Steele was strongly biased. The FBI blew right through these red lights.

The bureau continued to use the bogus information in applying for secret warrants from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to spy on Carter Page and, through him, on others connected with Trump. Officials told the court, falsely, that the warrant information was reliable and verified when they knew it was neither.

What the warrants say, in essence, is, “We need to spy on Carter Page because we think he’s an enemy agent.” But the FBI already knew he wasn’t. That means they were trolling for other information. How did the FBI know Page was on our side? Because they asked the CIA and were told, quite explicitly, that Page was helping them, not the Kremlin. The CIA gave that exculpatory information to FBI lawyer, Kevin Clinesmith, who altered the message to say Page was not working for the CIA. His alternation was criminal, and he plead guilty after Durham charged him.

The story gets worse. Although Clinesmith altered the CIA message for FBI use, he also gave his superiors the CIA’s true communication. So, his bosses knew the real story. They weren’t interested in the truth, which they kept secret from the FISA court to continuing spying on Page. If there is any justice left in Washington, those responsible for this travesty will be held criminally liable. Page may well have a civil case against them, too.

As the FBI blundered forward on its political mission, it made other revealing missteps. The most important was Director Comey’s meeting with the incoming president in early January 2017. Comey told Trump the FBI had acquired some damning materials about him but emphasized they were still unverified. As Comey’s own aides warned him, that communication could be seen as a kind of blackmail threat, the kind that marked J. Edgar Hoover’s tenure.

Comey’s meeting with the president had another major consequence. Until then, even anti-Trump news outlets had been wary about mentioning the dossier (which the Clinton team had been shopping to them) because they couldn’t actually verify any of the vital details. That reticence changed with Comey’s briefing, which was news in its own right. The story now became, “FBI chief briefs president-elect Trump about salacious dossier, revealing damning info Kremlin could use to blackmail Trump.” One online outlet, BuzzFeed, went further. It published the full Steele dossier, and the media frenzy began.

Remember, this whole story was concocted and paid for by Hillary Clinton’s campaign and fed to the FBI and the media by her attorneys and associates. The FBI, which should have been able to quickly prove the story was false, plodded on with its investigation and fed the frenzy.

Although the dossier was commissioned to sink Trump in November, it was still useful after he won the election. Trump’s adversaries could exploit it to hamstring his embryonic administration, and that’s exactly what they did. With the whole-hearted backing of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff spent three years beating the drum of the “Russia collusion” hoax. Schiff’s constant media appearances claiming he had conclusive evidence of Trump-Russia collaboration continued long after he had received classified briefings that demolished his story. The briefer was former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe, and he has confirmed those meetings with Schiff and his Senate counterpart, Mark Warner. No matter to Schiff, who kept repeating his claims and pursuing his full-scale investigation. First the verdict; then the inquiry. It was all part of a four-year-long battle, first to prevent Trump’s election, then to undermine his presidency, and finally to damage his chances for reelection.

The Clinton team launched this operation with professional expertise. The goal was to produce a powerful anti-Trump story, using whatever materials they could, then share it with the media (to smear Trump) and the FBI (to launch a major investigation and ensnare Trump). Ideally, the campaign’s involvement would be hidden, removed from the damning report by several layers of lawyers, opposition researchers, camp followers, and flacks.

To provide that insulation, the campaign used attorney Marc Elias, then at Perkins Coie law firm in Washington (where the recently indicted Michael Sussmann was a colleague), to hire an opposition-research firm, Fusion GPS. That firm, headed by former reporters Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch, in turn hired Steele, a Brit who had formerly worked for his country’s intelligence services, to produce the damning dossier. To translate some Russian materials, Fusion GPS hired Nellie Ohr, whose husband, Bruce, learned how biased Steele was and told the FBI to treat Steele and his information warily.

Bureau agents ignored that early warning and all the others. They quickly learned Steele’s material was a mirage, thanks to their interviews with Danchenko. They also confirmed that Steele’s dossier depended on Danchenko, so its claims of “Russian sourcing” were false. By interviewing Danchenko’s own sources, they learned that their third-hand statements, which were used in the dossier, were mainly rumors and “bar talk.”

The prosecutorial team assembled by Robert Mueller should have known all this, too. They had complete access to this exculpatory FBI material on day one and ignored it. A year and a half later, when Mueller himself finally testified before Congress, he didn’t even know what Fusion GPS was. By that point, Mueller seemed to have genuine difficulty remembering the details of his own investigation. His team of attorneys had no such excuse. Hired by Mueller’s top deputy, Andrew Weissmann, they were among the country’s sharpest and toughest prosecutors — and the most partisan. The more Durham uncovers, the worse the Mueller team will look.

Reviewing this evidence, Kimberly Strassel of the Wall Street Journal has concluded the Steele dossier is misnamed. It should be called the “Clinton dossier,” she says, since Hillary commissioned it, paid for it, and had her aides feed it to the media, the State Department, and the FBI. It was a full-scale disinformation campaign — coherent, well-organized, and well-funded. It was rotten to the core.

The question now is whether John Durham can find enough evidence to charge the ones who planned and executed it. The charging documents he filed for Danchenko and Sussmann are far more extensive than the necessary minimum. They suggest that Durham has compiled extensive evidence about a broader conspiracy. Will he settle for the capillaries now that he has the jugular in view?“

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:12pm

yep...

'the walls are closing in'

...you might say...

yet barely a peep from the mainstream media...

or blindboy...

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Vic Local Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:14pm

I guess it's up to Swellnet's owner to determine whether or not blowin gets to keep posting his angry abuse, that has in the past involved threats of violence, on their site. It's up to them whether they want blowin's racism, lies, and anti-vax rubbish in their forums
Personally I would have given him the flick years ago, but hey, I don't make the rules.
He is fun to mock though.

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:14pm

The Mueller Report found that Russian interference in the election was widespread systematic and illegal. Look it up.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:17pm

however you look at it...

and whatever the fallout...

it was a massive conspiracy...

MASSIVE

CONSPIRACY

which is bloody hilarious considering 'the narrative'

despite the pending censorious fallout...

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:20pm

It also found that the Russian Internet Resesrch Agency waged a social media campaign to support Donald Trump and disparage Hilary Clinton.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:26pm

"The Mueller Report found that Russian interference in the election was widespread systematic and illegal. Look it up."

yep

but, that doesn't cancel what clinton was up to... not even remotely...

or indict trump...

you want to burn trump at the stake for putin doing what putin does...

and obama... and nearly every other world leader...

aside from the whole thing being absolutely ridiculous... its mindblowingly hypocritical...

like boom boom mind blowing...

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:24pm
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The Mueller Report found that Russian interference in the election was widespread systematic and illegal. Look it up.

Lol. Conflating the bipartisan amateur Russian Facebook ads with Trump being a Russian agent is sooooo 2017 Bloke.

Get with the times old man. Your bullshit hasn’t had legs for years.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:29pm

"It also found that the Russian Internet Resesrch Agency waged a social media campaign to support Donald Trump and disparage Hilary Clinton."

that doesn't change anything either...

you're looking rather desperate

you got anything? ...anything at all?

on the witch that is...

no not clinton... there's plenty there...

your just 'blind' to it

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:30pm

It also found that the IRA organised election rallies in support of Trump and ran over 3500 facebook ads in which Russians posed as American Trump supporters.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:32pm

and trump's complicitness in that?

you're doing a great job of showing you have nothing...

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:34pm

but we'll burn him at the stake anyway

because he's most inconvenient to a bunch of billionaires....

go 'the left'

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:39pm

It also found that the IRA sought to provoke and amplify political and social discord in the USA by forming fake facebook groups such as blactivist, LBGT United and United Muslims of America.

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:52pm
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It also found that the IRA sought to provoke and amplify political and social discord in the USA by forming fake facebook groups such as blactivist, LBGT United and United Muslims of America.

I already mentioned those.

Well….it’s a big comedown for old mate Blindboy. He’s gone from confidently asserting the tripe that Trump was Putin’s puppet to “ …..but Russian pages about lesbians on Facebook!”

That’s some hardcore lols right there.

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 5:57pm

They also found 170 contacts between Trump, or 18 of his associates, with Russian nationals, Wikileaks or their intermediaries. On multiple occasions, members and surrogates of the Trump Campaign promoted – typically by linking, retweeting, or similar methods of reposting – pro-Trump or anti-Clinton content published by the IRA through IRA-controlled social media accounts.

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:07pm

Is there a point here or is your obviously desperate scraping of the barrel the point itself?

Reread your last comment. It’s as far and away from Trump Russia collusion / Trump as Putin’s puppet as summer heatwaves are from winter snow. No one believes this rubbish except you.

I’m not joking here…..you honestly sound like a 70 year old man arguing that Santa Claus is real. I’m not shitting you, that’s how deranged you sound.

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sypkan Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 6:23pm

what about the clinton developments blindboy?

you don't think it significant,that for 3 years or more all the media talked about was trump colluding with russians? ...a 'conspiracy' if you will...

and now, 4 years on, mueller found nothing to link trump with putin...

and, durham has found the steele dossier was totally fabricated, and very probably requested by clinton herself?

the fbi knew this a long long time ago... yet 'the narrative' was allowed to continue...

these are facts blindboy, indisputeable reality, ...as opposed to the likely, but total fiction, story the media has peddled for years...

you don't feel a little ripped off by the media?

a little lead astray?

you don't think it significant, interesting, and ironic that it was actually clinton colluding with russians?

conspiring... (no theory required... anymore...)

it's a hell of s story... and you seem to be missing 9/10ths of it...

don't do that to yourself blindboy... it's interesting, it's significant, it's scary, and it's exciting...

quite possibly the biggest political scandal ever, ever! ... and you are missing out...

jump in, and enjoy it for what it is...