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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 5:22pm

did I ever say the riots were justified?

you really gotta work on that miserable condescending attitude

and the assumptions and accusations!!

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 5:31pm

I understand their frustrations, at being lied to and shafted...

just as I understand the blm frustrations

both of these groups have been whipped into a frenzy... by dark money, dark forces, self interests, corruption, and most importantly, a totally conpromised and complicit media...

the smart journalists who aren't too biased and invested all know it, and some break ranks to say it...

I find it puzzling that seemingly smart people on here cannot take a more nuanced view

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blindboy Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 6:07pm

“….did I ever say the riots were justified?”

Well yes you did. "Fair grievance" sounds like a justification to me

“I see blm and jan 6 riots as same same...
they both have a fair grievance with how america is being run…”

Of course to equate BLM and the Capitol riot ignores that the motivation for one side was an exercise in deliberate lies and provocation on the part of Trump, while the other was motivated by slavery, Jim Crow and centuries of disadvantage, lynchings and oppression......but hey they should just get over it eh? Though you must admit it would seem much easier for Trump's posse to get over their delusions than for the BLM protestors to get over their history of oppression and current disadvantage.
So a little lesson in history for you. Conspiracy theories and interpretations of events that depart from the known facts have a short shelf life. Historians, with the advantage of distance, have little trouble separating the facts from the convenient fictions, as they will in this case also. So Paul is not dead, the moon landing was real, America did not bomb Pearl Harbour itself , the illuminati do not control the world......but Trump did cause the riot at the Capitol....and that is how it will be recorded in history.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 6:31pm
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well, to be perfectly honest, there was a lot of stuff going on in the dark that has not been adequately explained...

but putting that aside...

and just concentrating on the legitimate steal...

if the media and big tech etc. reported on biden, hunter, and the laptop freely and fairly, as they should... I am sure that would have been enough to close the pissy margin biden won by...

mail in votes: the enthusiasm and desperation the democrats showed to change this system in their favour went well beyond any corona bullshit... and it worked... as everyone knew it would... both sides!

without even going into the dodgy dark of night so called 'conspiracy' shit, just one of the above events not happening would have more than likely lead to a trump victory

the fact there were these events, ...and so so so many other forces going against trump... I do not think it is unfair to say the election was stolen

the mail thing... fair play... maybe...

the biden black out... totally dodge!

Stolen is maybe not the right word, but yeah a lot of forces intentionally pushing against Trump and in Biden's favour.

Im not into conspiracy theories, but it wouldn't surprise me if one day we learn things that we don't know now that could have influenced the outcome.

Trump handled it all pretty bad though, he sure is a sore loser.

And its absolutely crazy that out of a population of 330million plus Trump and Biden are the two options.

I do miss the Trump entertainment factor though.

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 6:43pm

ohhh gawwd...

you are insufferable

I knew I was right back at 3.55, shoulda been strong...

'let's just stop'

and this...

'you really gotta work on that miserable condescending attitude

and the assumptions and accusations!!'

leave you to your echo chamber champ

you love it

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 6:49pm

'Trump handled it all pretty bad though, he sure is a sore loser.'

yep, the man is literally retarded... and he still almost won!

'And its absolutely crazy that out of a population of 330million plus Trump and Biden are the two options.'

just plain batshit crazy

america has always been a bit batshit crazy to oz... but to think their politics has devolved to the choice of these two self serving b grade geriatrics is just scary

at least hilary was competent amongst her corruption...

these two should be the absolute last choices at the end of very long lists

they shouldn't even make the list!

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blindboy Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 7:02pm

The moving target moves on in ever decreasing circles making no sense, sticking to no position but undeterred in his quest for........who would know?

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Blowin Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 7:15pm

A fella who would bet his house on Trump being a Russian agent trying to ridicule others for their beliefs……lololol

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Supafreak Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 7:21pm

I really don’t know sweet FA about US politics but biden vs trump as the best they could come up with doesn’t say much for either side . What was so bad about Bernie S ? , again I know SFA

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blindboy Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 7:30pm

Blowin please post the comment in which I said that.

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:01pm

and this is your real problem

'The moving target moves on in ever decreasing circles making no sense, sticking to no position but undeterred in his quest for........who would know?'

you cannot pin me down in your toxic little 'us and them' binary...

my position is pretty clear, I've spelt it out so many times I honestly cannot believe toxic man still don't get it...

both sides suck... both sides are corrupt... corrupt and corrupted... the democrats were once the lesser of two evils...

but now, backed by wall street, big tech., the chinese peasant factory billionaires, corporate america generally, a corrupt intelligence community, and generally a corrupted shadow of a democracy establishment machine, ...with a media that no longer serves it's purpose.... that lesser of two evils thing is totally debateable...

they've become the system they once hated...

the one you once hated...

they are now the power trippers, with all the levers, willing to preserve that power at any cost...

and you blindly defend this corruption of process... corruption of a system...

perhaps fittingly so... blindboy....

a blindboy boomer not willing to cede an inch...

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 8:54pm

and blowin is so so correct...

you are simply too scared to look

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Supafreak Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 8:56pm

Another thing I’ve never understood is when sypkan gets accused off being a righty , he bags both sides equally ( morrison , trump , biden , albo ) yet some label him as pro whatever. I’m a labor voter that has no faith in them and their pathetic attempt at being an “ opposition “ , but will still vote labor next election as the current mob can’t continue .

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:06pm

they're simpletons supafreak...

if they ever actually developed an argument beyond defensive mode, they may not like what they see

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sypkan Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:12pm

bernie had to be shut down, just like tulsi...

but the hardcore (fake) lefties on here won't even talk about that... preserving the 'brand' always comes before any rational discussion...

it's bloody nauseating

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Supafreak Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:22pm

I really liked tulsi , she seemed 100% ridgey didge and Bernie seemed to come across as someone who could string a sentence together and looked out for the underdog.

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blindboy Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:23pm

The problem with refusing to take a position on issues of importance is that you become irrelevant. Fine distinctions matter. When all are corrupt, it is important to know who is the least corrupt. The grades between are where the decisions of importance are made. So the difference between Biden, who is old and compromised by decades of political dealing but knows his way around the system, and Trump, who for all his bluster was politically naive, is the difference between some competence and none at all. And that incompetence, combined with Trump's indifference to his fundamental responsibilities, cost tens of thousands of lives.

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Supafreak Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:29pm

So blindboy you fully believe the president calls all the shots ? I’ve got my doubts but again I know SFA . Do you believe biden is doing a good job and overall the public are happy with him ?

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blindboy Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 9:42pm

No the president does not call all the shots, which is why it is important that they know the system. Probably the most effective President in the last 60 years was Johnson. He came to the Presidency after long experience in the Senate and knew how to get things done. That is not to say that everything he did was wise, just that he had greater control than any other President.
Biden has numerous weaknesses and has serious divisions within his own party and so will, at best, be marginally effective. I do not believe he is up to a second term and believe he will stand down for Harris or another candidate. The Republicans are a shambles. Trump will not win again and his presence, whether or not he becomes the candidate, will ruin their chances. I think the election.proved that however low the public assessment of Biden might be, he is still seen as a vast improvement on Trump.

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Supafreak Saturday, 6 Nov 2021 at 10:03pm

Best thing that can happen for republicans is trump not running , if he doesn’t then they will probably win , again I know SFA

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Hutchy 19 Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 8:23am

Indo - The shady work of against Trump is already out and there will be much more to come .

The Clintons have been proven to be behind the Russian hoax and more will be coming out as their lawyer is under investigation . Same with the FBI . It really was obvious before the recent confirmation .

I was very PLEASED with Trump being a sore loser . It would have shocked me if he changed his character due to a lose . Trump was the ONE politician that what you saw was what we got .

A breath of fresh air .

Most of the US people are ashamed that they fell for the BS and voted in Biden . They will not make the same mistake twice . The Trump rallies will again be full and this time SCREAMING " Clean The Swamp " . I look forward to it .

Imagine how fed up the US people will be in 3 years time . Three years of Biden ( he won't last ) , the VP and or Pelosi . The election will be a Democrat Blood Bath .

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Hutchy 19 Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 9:32am

Every day something new hits my screen . They tried to give the diary back to Biden's legal team . They would not accept it as they did not want to admit to it authenticity . Then .....

Daily Mail

O'Keefe said in the video that Project Veritas had received a grand jury subpoena and the DOJ had asked, but not ordered, the group not to disclose the existence of the subpoena. O'Keefe said that he did not know who had leaked the raid to the New York Times.

'In what world is the alleged theft of a diary investigated by the president's FBI and his DOJ? A diary. This fed investigation smacks of politics,' O'Keefe said.

The DOJ under President Trump had opened an investigation into theft of the diary after a member of the Biden team reported it to authorities in October 2020. The representative of the Biden family had said that several of Ashley Biden's belongings had been stolen, according to the Times.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 10:26am

If Trump runs for 2024, i wouldn't write him off just yet, historically he is a long shot to get relected, but Trump and the election in 2020 were all very unique circumstances, if Covid hadn't hit the election result could have been quite different.

And there is quite vocal pushback gaining traction against Biden now this whole "Lets go Brandon" thing, who knows how things will be viewed in another 3 years or what might come out or happen or who he would be up against, the fact people might think he has no chance could again be the factor that provides him a chance.

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lostdoggy Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 11:00am

I reckon Trump's health will wane too much for him to campaign hard for 2024.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 7 Nov 2021 at 6:25pm

Let's go Brandon!

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batfink Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 3:48pm
sypkan wrote:

bernie had to be shut down, just like tulsi...

but the hardcore (fake) lefties on here won't even talk about that... preserving the 'brand' always comes before any rational discussion...

it's bloody nauseating

What have you read that has left you feeling that hardcore, fake lefties won’t even talk about Bernie being shut down. Or perhaps that is a silly question. What have you not read that led you to thinking that hardcore, fake lefties won’t even talk about Bernie being shut down?

Serious question.

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Supafreak Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 6:02pm

November 07, 2021 - 02:58 PM EST
Biden approval rating drops to new low of 38 percent: poll. https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/580460-biden-approval-rating...

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pigman Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 6:50pm

who gives a shit about bidens approval rating ?

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Supafreak Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 6:53pm
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who gives a shit about bidens approval rating ?

Probably the people who voted for him and possibly the Democrats

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:08pm

"Probably the people who voted for him and possibly the Democrats"

they sure do...

there's a bit a 'moral panic' setting in

panic anyway...

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:16pm

but, speaking of moral panic...

a good vid

what's woke and what's not...

white righteousness..

educational snobbery...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/11/07/batya_ungar-sargon_me...

seems even cnn is working on their self reflection skills after the recent panic inducing results...

time for donny lemon and co. to get up to speed?

you ain't black!

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freeride76 Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:15pm

be interesting to see how the politics of the infrastructure spending bill play out.

If the USA goes into an economic boom then Biden may have to do nothing except hope Trump runs.

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:18pm

"be interesting to see how the politics of the infrastructure spending bill play out.

If the USA goes into an economic boom then Biden may have to do nothing except hope Trump runs."

why hope trump runs?

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:22pm

...seen smart dudes say biden is gonna overcook it...

on the back of trump's big spending / corona measures, the economy already a bit of a run away

inflationary problems...

biden's big spend not really neccesary... purely ideological... could be setting up a disaster... for himself and the dems...

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:33pm

you seem to have missed two key words batfink...

'on here'

the context was, you cannot even consider criticising the democrats, or the left more widely, ...on here... without getting belittled and labelled

a somewhat sensitive set 'on here'...

blows me away how there are mature conversations on abc radio every single day, very similar to the discourse that runs on here...

...without all the perpetually triggered, deplatforming, censorious toys out of cot bullshit you see on here...

blows me away!

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:34pm

they even give jacinta price a run!

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:35pm

one would think that's the devil's work if you took the clowns on here too seriously

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blindboy Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:38pm

Talking to yourself again mate. Five in a row might be a record.

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Supafreak Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 7:51pm

Speaking of clowns ……… 8-A283381-E873-451-C-9297-A86-DC9305-F6-E

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freeride76 Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:03pm
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"be interesting to see how the politics of the infrastructure spending bill play out.

If the USA goes into an economic boom then Biden may have to do nothing except hope Trump runs."

why hope trump runs?

I think people voted Trump out .

He also couldn't get infrastructure done.

It was always "2 weeks away".

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:22pm

go bobo

keep batting for bozo

the billionaire!

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freeride76 Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:22pm

Personally I think this infrastructure Bill is yuuuuggge, as Bernie would say.

Massive amounts of money being poured in construction: bridges, roads, railways, ports etc etc.

With that come huge amounts of high paying construction jobs.

I think the US Will see a massive boom on the back of this.

Bigger maybe than the Roaring 20's boom after the Spanish Flu.

If Biden can rebuild an American Middle/Working Class on the back of a govt led construction boom- ironically Trumps so-called people, it'll be monumental.

But we'll see, thats just my prediction.

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sypkan Monday, 8 Nov 2021 at 8:29pm

I agree freeride

but it could also blow inflation out of the ball park!!

supply chains struggling

wages booming to fill positions

...and 'infrastructure' is now a very loose term...

personally I think a lot of it is much needed in a very run down US... but how it is done will determine its success or not...

we will see

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Supafreak Tuesday, 9 Nov 2021 at 5:33pm

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Supafreak Tuesday, 9 Nov 2021 at 6:39pm

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:36am

It ain't over 'til it's over.

"WASHINGTON — Thirteen of President Donald J. Trump’s most senior aides — including his son-in-law and his chief of staff — campaigned illegally for Mr. Trump’s re-election in violation of a law designed to prevent federal employees from abusing the power of their offices on behalf of candidates, a government watchdog agency said Tuesday.

Henry Kerner, who heads the Office of Special Counsel, made the assertion in a withering report that followed a nearly yearlong investigation into “myriad” violations of the law, known as the Hatch Act.

“Senior Trump administration officials chose to use their official authority not for the legitimate functions of the government, but to promote the re-election of President Trump in violation of the law,” the report concluded.

Investigators in Mr. Kerner’s office said Trump administration officials purposely violated the law prohibiting political activity during the final few weeks of the administration, when they knew that the Office of Special Counsel would not have time to investigate and issue findings before Election Day."

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/09/us/politics/trump-officials-illegal-c...

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:49am

Blindboy has his Trump Boner back! First non-chemically induced erection for a year for the old bugger.

Congratulations BB!

It’s a shame that watching the Biden/ Harris shitshow unravel doesn’t get the same blood flow otherwise you could put away your blue pills for good.

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zenagain Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 11:50am

"The Office of Special Counsel report notes that none of the people named will face any punishment for their violations because it is up to the incumbent president to discipline his top employees."

Sounds pretty over to me. Am I missing something?

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blindboy Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:09pm

So insults are all you have Blowin? You really are a complete creep. When was the last time you said anything remotely thst offensive to anyone in real life? Never I reckon because you are a slimy low life fuckin' coward.

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Blowin Wednesday, 10 Nov 2021 at 12:17pm

Cop it sweet, dickhead.