Vaccinate or not
Oct-March 2023 WHO Pop Charts
Base Case = Ongoing Outbreaks > Limited impact on Global Economy
Surge Scenario 1 = Large increase in Hospitalizations may impact on Global Economy
Surge Scenario 2 = Large increase in Deaths > Health Mandates will heavily impact Global Economy
Covax : ( Support Hesitant Vax % ) # Priority is Risk of CoVax Waning & CoVax resistant Variants
Pretty much just keep mopping up there own mess!
Immune Refocusing drives the Convergent Evolution
tbb will share current frontline science debate of Pandemic
Immune Refocusing (5 past 12)
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/it-is...
Convergent Evolution (Quad Flu Variants)
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/20/health/variants-covid-winter-surge/in...
Next Global Outbreak will involve mixed variant waves.
Global Covid Data is trending down but Experts warn that Covid is again rising.
US Wastewater samples show rise in Covid to equal 2021 levels.
[+] WW rising ^ order ~ ^Ohio ^Wisconsin ^New York ^Illinois , Maine) + Colorado
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#wastewater-surveillance
25 Oct 2022 Expert Predictions of rising Global Wave.
*Germany had concerning rapid Hospitalisations > Cases should keep falling to 1st Feb 190,000 cases
Will likely spread thru Europe in coming weeks.
*Singapore XBB surge in transmissions & Hospitalizations but less severe.
*US will increase by 1/3 to 1st Feb 1m
*Global
Cases Rise slowly from Oct 16.7m > 1st Feb Peak 18.7m
Deaths rise slowly from Oct 1,660 > 1st Feb Peak 2,748
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/no-surge-exp...
ABC Norman Swan says it will be a Global (All seasons) Outbreak
Admissions : 2 dose offers next to no protection + Virus is growing more virulent to vaccine
Recent Europe outbreaks > N/S-West Pacific outbreaks give rise to the Global rise thought.
Japan / South Korea / Taiwan / Hong Kong / Singapore / Indo / NZ / Oz are trending up.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/new-variants-expected-to-suppl...
Mystery of Oz Missing Moderna > 15m Bivalent Doses
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/confusion-as-government-walks-...
Pfizer Bivalent approved by TGA
https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/the-covid-booster-australia-approves-s...
27th Oct (Post Vax Review) Health Minister is still trying to secure any Bivalent Vax from either?
https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/7958941/government-discussing-more-b...
US Pfizer Vax
2nd Quarter 2023 US Open Market Vax price.(10,000% mark up)
500m doses = 100m / $20 > 400m / $30 > Next doses > A lot more!
Pfizer : US $110-$130 / dose (Each dose costs US $1.18 to produce with Govt funded supply lines)
https://qz.com/pfizer-plans-to-sell-its-covid-vaccine-at-a-10-000-mar-18...
Origin Wars
WIV Aussie Lab Rats Dani & Eddie failed to sell boss's Animal of Origin Lucky Dip! (Mean eyes & Furry!)
US Senate Committee : "Chinese Vax origin dates back to (12 Nov 2019) WIV Covid breach"
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/10/covid-origins-investigation-wuha...
Yes mate they want another lockdown desperately. Not enough "citizens" battling financially/depending on the po lie ticians and taking gates poison. For any galahs still on the fence,,, I was at my brothers 50th recently here in South Oz and I managed to catch up with his best mate of 35 years. This chap is a former bikie squad copper, CIB, police prosecutor (not for long he was too honest), and now a seargant. He asked me what I thought of convid, and I told him I dont buy into it one little bit. I was surprised to hear him say he didn't either. He then proceeded to confirm my suspicions that the "pizza gate" saga here in this state was completely fabricated (look it up), and how many were appalled that they were being sent to make sure the citizens stayed home. All fking lies.
truebluebasher wrote:Oct-March 2023 WHO Pop Charts
Base Case = Ongoing Outbreaks > Limited impact on Global Economy
Surge Scenario 1 = Large increase in Hospitalizations may impact on Global Economy
Surge Scenario 2 = Large increase in Deaths > Health Mandates will heavily impact Global Economy
Covax : ( Support Hesitant Vax % ) # Priority is Risk of CoVax Waning & CoVax resistant Variants
Pretty much just keep mopping up there own mess!Immune Refocusing drives the Convergent Evolution
tbb will share current frontline science debate of Pandemic
Immune Refocusing (5 past 12)
https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/videos-and-interviews/it-is...
Convergent Evolution (Quad Flu Variants)
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/10/20/health/variants-covid-winter-surge/in...Next Global Outbreak will involve mixed variant waves.
Global Covid Data is trending down but Experts warn that Covid is again rising.
US Wastewater samples show rise in Covid to equal 2021 levels.
[+] WW rising ^ order ~ ^Ohio ^Wisconsin ^New York ^Illinois , Maine) + Colorado
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#wastewater-surveillance25 Oct 2022 Expert Predictions of rising Global Wave.
*Germany had concerning rapid Hospitalisations > Cases should keep falling to 1st Feb 190,000 cases
Will likely spread thru Europe in coming weeks.
*Singapore XBB surge in transmissions & Hospitalizations but less severe.
*US will increase by 1/3 to 1st Feb 1m*Global
Cases Rise slowly from Oct 16.7m > 1st Feb Peak 18.7m
Deaths rise slowly from Oct 1,660 > 1st Feb Peak 2,748
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/no-surge-exp...ABC Norman Swan says it will be a Global (All seasons) Outbreak
Admissions : 2 dose offers next to no protection + Virus is growing more virulent to vaccineRecent Europe outbreaks > N/S-West Pacific outbreaks give rise to the Global rise thought.
Japan / South Korea / Taiwan / Hong Kong / Singapore / Indo / NZ / Oz are trending up.
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/new-variants-expected-to-suppl...Mystery of Oz Missing Moderna > 15m Bivalent Doses
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/clinical/confusion-as-government-walks-...
Pfizer Bivalent approved by TGA
https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/the-covid-booster-australia-approves-s...27th Oct (Post Vax Review) Health Minister is still trying to secure any Bivalent Vax from either?
https://www.thecourier.com.au/story/7958941/government-discussing-more-b...US Pfizer Vax
2nd Quarter 2023 US Open Market Vax price.(10,000% mark up)
500m doses = 100m / $20 > 400m / $30 > Next doses > A lot more!
Pfizer : US $110-$130 / dose (Each dose costs US $1.18 to produce with Govt funded supply lines)
https://qz.com/pfizer-plans-to-sell-its-covid-vaccine-at-a-10-000-mar-18...Origin Wars
WIV Aussie Lab Rats Dani & Eddie failed to sell boss's Animal of Origin Lucky Dip! (Mean eyes & Furry!)US Senate Committee : "Chinese Vax origin dates back to (12 Nov 2019) WIV Covid breach"
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/10/covid-origins-investigation-wuha...
ok and I'll start it off with something hopefully everyone will find not only funny but also useful: I hope everyone is heeding Canada's top doctor's latest covid health advice Wear a mask while having sex, Canada's top doctor suggests.
And remember: “The lowest risk sexual activity during COVID-19 involves yourself alone,” she added....
Stok wrote:Not only fewer people in the lineup, but no anti-vaxers!
Read into it however you like - you either trust the system (and listen to scientists, peer reviewed research, trials etc) or you don't (and listen to outspoken doubt casters, comedians, celebrity chefs etc.).
Well said, still there too
Supafreak wrote:I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?
Daryl Gibson wrote:Well said, still there too
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@exsibilation
The replies are interesting because the question gets to the heart of some of the cognitive dissonance society is dealing with now. The thought that we might be responsible for the number of people we infect is a serious lift for many, and so they respond with vitriol.
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If you have Long Covid—has anyone responsible for your infection ever truly apologised?
I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?