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factotum started the topic in Wednesday, 13 Mar 2019 at 7:09pm

“Whatever prevents you from doing your work has become your work.” - Albert Camus

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batfink commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 2:12pm

Tried to delete my dot boy entry, but took me to a page that said I don't have access to it. You might want to see about that Stunet, having a delete button and all. False advertising.

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factotum commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 4:16pm

I don't know why you guys can't at least get semi-creative.

What about a ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ at least. Kinda makes sense too.

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factotum commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 6:09pm

"Of course all political violence is equivalent. It’s just your perspective that justifies it or not."

So, take the poll tax riot for example. Working peoples versus the power of the State.

The Labour party of the time, let alone Thatcher (who of course was never for turning), said civil disobedience would achieve nothing. And that the riot was a disgrace and counter-productive.

They were wrong. By the end of that year Thatcher was ousted and her Tory successor John Major revoked the tax at the first opportunity.

The other groups I mentioned were all involved in a struggle with entrenched and dominant establishment power. And change happened in varying degrees. Mostly positive. Maybe.

With what is going on in France as we speak, and the obvious power imbalance, the violence is equivalent? Even if you're a Macron supporter, you still think there's equivalence?

More importantly, again, when does 'violence' - in whatever guise - work, so to speak? Is it ever justifiable?

Or is all political violence to be denigrated and resisted?

"More haste, less speed."

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Blowin commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 5:20pm

Violence is always necessary in the end.

All political violence is equivalent.....still. It’s just not the answer you think it should be.

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factotum commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 6:13pm

Which Side Are You On?

A Song by Florence Patton Reece.

Come all of you good workers
Good news to you I'll tell
Of how that good old union
Has come in here to dwell

Chorus
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?
Which side are you on?

My daddy was a miner
And I'm a miner's son
And I'll stick with the union
Till every battle's won

They say in Harlan County
There are no neutrals there
You'll either be a union man
Or a thug for J.H. Blair

Oh, workers can you stand it?
Oh, tell me how you can
Will you be a lousy scab
Or will you be a man?

Don't scab for the bosses
Don't listen to their lies
Us poor folks haven't got a chance
Unless we organize.

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factotum commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 7:52pm

From Crikey:

In a 1996 episode of Four Corners profiling the then-opposition leader, John Winston Howard was asked about his musical tastes and answered that he was into what people would call "protest songs by Bob Dylan and Joan Baez. I like them immensely." Interviewer Liz Jackson prodded Howard on the point: "But you weren't part of that protest generation", to which Howard answered:

"Well, my views were different from some of them ... I mean, I guess, everybody has ... but you shouldn't get so hung up, you shouldn't be so politically correct, that somebody that may not necessarily share the views of the vocalist, can't enjoy the music, that's very narrow minded. That's the sort of thing that you'd expect from the politically correct brigade."

Dylan, the winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature “for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition” and perhaps the greatest lyricist in popular music.

Big John just liked the tunes, man.

Maybe he sang, or rather hummed, in the same manner as Bob?

Then again...

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Blowin commented Monday, 1 Apr 2019 at 8:39pm

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factotum commented Wednesday, 3 Apr 2019 at 9:34am

"Hey True Blue, don't say you've gone
Say you've knocked off for a smoko
And you'll be back la-ater on
Hey True Blue, Hey True Blue

Give it to me straight, face to face
Are you really disappearing
Just another dying race
Hey True Blue

True Blue, is it me and you
Is it Mum and Dad, is it a cockatoo
Is it standin' by your mate when he's in a fight
Or just Vegemi-ite
True Blue, I'm a-asking you

Hey True Blue, can you bear the load
Will you tie it up with wire
Just to keep the show on the road
Hey True Blue

Hey True Blue, now be Fair Dinkum
Is your heart still there
If they sell us out like sponge cake
Do you really care
Hey True Blue."

Scott Morrison

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 3 Apr 2019 at 10:06am

truebluebasher feels all dirty...

I think factotum just broke me or somethin?

Dear Gary G;

I think i've been violated or probed even bullied...Wishing for all three!
Does tbb need a hug or should I just man up?

Signed swellnet harem slave...tbb.

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Gary G commented Wednesday, 3 Apr 2019 at 11:30am

No need to 'Man 'Up' and repress those natural feelings, TBB.

Gary advises you let it all hang out.

You and me, Gary, ain’t nothing but mammals so let’s do it* like they do it on the aerobics channel

*faceys

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factotum commented Wednesday, 3 Apr 2019 at 10:49pm

"I want to be there when everyone suddenly understands what it has all been for."

Ivan Karamazov, in Fyodor Dostoevsky's 'The Brothers Karamazov'

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blindboy commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 7:28am

"........ we are really just a nation of 220 million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns, and no qualms at all about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable."

HST 1972

Laurie McGinness

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shoredump commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 3:56pm

Laugh and cry with Tim Minchin
https://youtu.be/yoEezZD71sc

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AndyM commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 4:13pm

"Opinions are like arseholes, in that everyone has one. However opinions differ significantly from arseholes in that yours should be constantly and thoroughly examined."

Tim Minchin

Great link Shoredump, recommended viewing especially for the yoof.

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stunet commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 4:35pm

I never did understand that saying about opinions and arseholes. I mean, of course everyone has an arsehole. Everyone has a nose too, so are opinions like noses?

I imagine it came from a D-grade 80s film, probably starring Rob Lowe or Corey Feldman, and you were supposed to laugh because, despite the lack of wit, it included the world 'arsehole' and was delivered in a sneering, dismissive way.

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Rabbits68 commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 4:38pm

“Those documents better be pretty tight!”

“Believe me, they’re tighter than AC/DC in ‘78”

Billions

Crystal Clear

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stunet commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 5:12pm

OK, I was close. It was a cheesy 80s film, but not delivered by Rob Lowe or Corey Feldman.

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AndyM commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 5:36pm

Don’t overthink it Stu :)

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stunet commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 5:39pm

Why? Everyone has an arsehole, but only a few people can overthink things.

I think.

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AndyM commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 5:51pm

My head hurts.

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blindboy commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 6:19pm

Not only does everyone have an arsehole, but in my long experience and with very few honourable exceptions, sooner or later, everyone is an arsehole.

Laurie McGinness

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I focus commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 6:54pm

Its "Opinions are like arseholes everyone has one and they all stink"

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stunet commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 8:33pm

That's not what Clint thinks.

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velocityjohnno commented Thursday, 4 Apr 2019 at 10:02pm

"I can eat planets."

- attributed to Tom Cruise, in Superhero Movie

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garyg1412 commented Friday, 5 Apr 2019 at 2:12pm

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blindboy commented Friday, 5 Apr 2019 at 3:40pm

You can fool all of the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time but you can never fool all of the people all of the time.
anon

Laurie McGinness

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 5 Apr 2019 at 4:59pm

With the budget done and dusted and the nation now filling time fiddling with their baseball bats to kick the neo-con lying weasels out it’s time for some good old fashioned Paul Keating on budgeting https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7SK-aanRzoE

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Finntim commented Friday, 5 Apr 2019 at 8:07pm

A piss without a fart is like a pie without sauce.- Unknown punter at the trough of the Espy mid nineties. Needless to say I've never forgotten it and I pissed all over my shoes from laughing so hard!

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blindboy commented Friday, 5 Apr 2019 at 8:56pm

" Of all the Causes which conspire to blind
Man's erring judgement and misguide the Mind,
What the weak Head, with strongest Byass rules,
Is Pride, the never failing vice of fools."
Alexander Pope

Laurie McGinness

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GuySmiley commented Sunday, 7 Apr 2019 at 1:09pm

In the bay of the Waitangi Treaty Grounds today ....

Te au hononga tai
Te au hononga ini

The currents that bind tides
The currents that bind people

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factotum commented Sunday, 7 Apr 2019 at 2:06pm

"Grace...the Christ event in the individual soul."

DH Lawrence

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Ralph commented Tuesday, 9 Apr 2019 at 8:22am

"Suspicion always haunts the guilty mind."
William Shakespeare

I was reminded of this one by Bill Shorten's response to the budget. He said something like "it's a con!"

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:15am

...the only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”

Jack Kerouac.

Watashi wa metabo oyagi desu.

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factotum commented Tuesday, 9 Apr 2019 at 11:28am

“So in America when the sun goes down and I sit on the old broken-down river pier watching the long, long skies over New Jersey and sense all that raw land that rolls in one unbelievable huge bulge over to the West Coast, and all that road going, and all the people dreaming in the immensity of it, and in Iowa I know by now the children must be crying in the land where they let the children cry, and tonight the stars'll be out, and don't you know that God is Pooh Bear? the evening star must be drooping and shedding her sparkler dims on the prairie, which is just before the coming of complete night that blesses the earth, darkens all the rivers, cups the peaks and folds the final shore in, and nobody, nobody knows what's going to happen to anybody besides the forlorn rags of growing old, I think of Dean Moriarty, I even think of Old Dean Moriarty the father we never found, I think of Dean Moriarty.”

His face and demeanor after he finishes reading this always gets to me. Poor bugger and a true artist.

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factotum commented Thursday, 11 Apr 2019 at 1:29pm

"There's an old saying in Tennessee I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."

George W Bush

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zenagain commented Thursday, 11 Apr 2019 at 1:42pm

I was wondering when someone would put that up.

(btw, that's not a quote)

Watashi wa metabo oyagi desu.

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factotum commented Thursday, 11 Apr 2019 at 2:45pm

Cometh the election, cometh the quote, Zen

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H2O commented Thursday, 11 Apr 2019 at 3:22pm

"It aint bragging if you can do it"

Jay "Dizzy" Dean - U.S. baseball player.

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Westofthelake commented Thursday, 11 Apr 2019 at 7:39pm

To any aspiring politicians out there this one's for you. (Inspired by the election of 2004)

Wild spending and ridiculous promises
Outspoken dreamers and constant advertisements
In your face in everyway till polling day passes
Have a round on me and make me Prime Minister

Absentia votes and electoral boundaries
Surplus or deficit tax relief we never get
Up or down interest rate buy or sell maybe wait
Like the look of me and vote me Prime Minister

I'll give you everything you need say the politician
Spending the budget is my decision.

Labor or Liberal normal or typical
Replublican or democrat green or church party hat
Keep it simple kiss a kiddie smile a lot and keep it witty
Like the look of me and vote me blind minister

I'll give you everything you want say the politician
Smoke and mirrors just an illusion
I'm very generous when I'm spending your money
With one hand in your pocket on the other total confusion

Vote for me vote for me trust me I'm the politician of the day
Trust me trust me just vote for me I promise to lead you astray

Tunnel vision with conditions
black or white what a fight
Love or war what's the score
mass destruction hey what for
Stay or go dont you know
Do what I say and reap what I sow
Wont you look and see and vote me Prime Minister

Well I 'll tell you everything you need to know
Say the politicians
When it comes to those spending those budget taxes
Its always my decision
Cause I'm at my most generous
When I'm spending your money
With one hand in your pocket on the other total destruction

Well I tell you what I think you should do With politicians
If you wanna have a crack at running this country Stop snoozin
If you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything
So stand up for your right to run
Its election time again.

Vote 1

You!

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shoredump commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 6:09am

Make a list of things you need, leave it empty
Except for number one, write "love, gamble everything"
Keep it under lock and key
If you want to, you can gamble everything for love
Ben Lee

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factotum commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 12:23pm

Ah sweet little Benny.

I remember when he 'gambled everything for love', and got bottled off stage in Margs.

Bad bet.

"You gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away, know when to run..."

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Blowin commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 10:32am

Different world then.

They needed Dalton on the door.

https://youtu.be/OjQT4VkjHF4

The fella who threw the bottle needed putting in the stocks and kicked in the arse till he prolapsed.

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factotum commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 12:26pm

In reality the bloke didn't have to buy a beer all night.

Bouncers are lower down the rung than coppers. Rent-a-pigs.

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Blowin commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 12:58pm

Someone king hits an innocent bloke in the face with a beer bottle when he’s trying to entertain them is about as low as you can get in society. Then when you put your head down and hide from your dog act you’ve done the impossible and sunk even lower.

Put him in the stocks !

The fella who threw it probably has kids of his own now. You reckon he’d be shouting the beers if someone bottled his kid cause they didn’t like their music ?

Were you buying the thrower beers , Facto ?

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factotum commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 2:58pm

Wasn't me, officer. I swear. I wasn't even in the country.

And according to local folklore, stubbie glanced off his noggin (big target), cheer went up, whereupon he then decided to call it quits. Cue: another cheer.

But don't let that get in the way of lurid & emotive detail.

Do I condone it now? No, gramps.

Anyway, here's a tune to smooth the waters:

https://youtu.be/DS2z4EN1_5Y

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Blowin commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 7:48pm

The detail comes from the fact that my missus was there wth my mates partner whilst we hung at his place at the southern end of the capes.

If you think a bottle to the face is funny then you’ll celebrate the folklore of a guy with a couple of catchy tunes getting bottled.

The sympathy of the fake left - It’s a kaleidoscope of opposing victimhoods. Who’s better , who’s best ....inverted.

Who’s entitled......who’s hand is closest to the till of the Nation.

But by all means continue to melodramatise the PC emotional plight of any minority’s you feel have been triggered .

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Blowin commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 7:59pm

Facto ....appreciate the tune to soothe the waters.

But I never could stand Ben Lee.

Know where you arecomng from. We probably have a lot in common. You’ve just got to realise that the ALP is only slightly less detrimental to our country than the LNP.

We need a new paradigm.

Together.

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factotum commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 8:45pm

That vid is fairly unwatchable. His rendering of that tune almost unlistenable.

The lyrics:

I never met someone so jaded,
Your music's really overrated
Nothing but a lot of pretentious noise,
I know that Claire Danes is your chick
To me you're just some ugly prick
Who got lucky 'cause he knew the Beastie Boys

And I can't stand it
A lot goes on, but nothing happens, but this time that's not true,
Yeah, I wrote this song for you
To tell you that your fifteen minutes of fame are almost up,
Yeah and one more thing
Ben Lee, you suck

Bob Dylan must be kinda pissed
'cause you've been writing all his hits,
Repackaged and reprocessed for the world
I'd love to kick you in the face, break your legs
And throw you from a train, 'cause you're such a fucking girl

And I can't stand it
A lot goes on, but nothing happens, but this time that's not true,
Yeah, I wrote this song for you
To tell you that your fifteen minutes of fame are almost up,
Yeah and one more thing
Ben Lee, you suck

I guess this song's come to an end
I'll say goodbye until we meet again
You better stay out of my town
'Cause if I had my way, I'd call up Snoop, Ice Cube, and Dr. Dre
We'd come and beat you down

A lot goes on, but nothing happens, but this time that's not true,
Yeah, I wrote this song for you
To tell you that your fifteen minutes of fame are almost up,
Yeah and one more thing
Ben Lee, you suck.

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stunet commented Friday, 12 Apr 2019 at 9:07pm

In a similar vein...or train, or double-decker bus:

"What shall we do?
What shall we do-oo, when 100,000 Morrisseys come marching over the hill?"