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Shatner'sBassoon started the topic in Friday, 6 Nov 2015 at 7:48pm

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 10:37am

Scummo was installed for a reason and he did his job well.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 25 May 2019 at 9:29pm

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 10:47am

Has a political party ever gone to an election with so few policies being expounded?

I mean, what did the LNP take to the electorate?

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I focus commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 10:57am

Interesting Australia rejected fairness for a child actor with nothing.

Whats really interesting the comments here that are repeating the child actor lies as if they are real.

Still if you are going to lose an election not a bad one to lose with a recession just around the corner shame about the environment looks like its all going to hell there is no heaven for such things.

Pitty about workers as they lose conditions / money.

As FR says "god help us" because the Coalition wont.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 10:57am

Lot of poor losers this morning.

Australia saw through all the bullshit and the best man won end of story.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:00am

"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?"

Yeah for at least 20 years!

"Has a political party ever gone to an election with so few policies being expounded?"

Doubtful - the LNP presented virtually nothing apart from a last minute, half-baked one around the idea of a first home owner's deposit.

Bodes so very poorly for the future, it'll be a long while before a party comes to an election with articulated policies, they'll all have the fear of god in them now.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 10:58am

No Indo, Australia went for self-interest over any vision for the future.

You're a screaming example of this.

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:01am

Exactly I mean at least Turnbull had the balls to take a fully fleshed Neo-liberal trickle down economics package to the last election.

Scomo took absolutely nothing.

Where to now? Just keep trundling on?

Does he outline some kind of policy direction ?

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I focus commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:02am

ID deal with the truth it isn't about the man its about who and what they represent.

Tell us what the policy's are that the child actor is going to do with penalty rates, health, education?

Then there is the question of where is the $40 bil coming from to pay for tax cuts (they are unfunded)

Still child actor believes in miracles we will need one for his lack of fiscal knowledge looking forward to the cuts in services.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:09am

Well, as has been discussed for the past few days, if at this juncture in history we so emphatically reject change, we might as well strap ourselves in and do what we can, which appears to be 3/5 of fuck-all.

Various commentators are saying that the Oz economy is far from healthy and will struggle majorly in the next six months, so will be interesting to see if the Libs have been given a financial hospital pass.

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Westofthelake commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:06am

The Labor party faithful wanted Albo as their leader years ago. The Labor party machine over rode this so called internal democratic desire and selected Shorten.

The bottom line is that he was very unpopular as a personality, and things like internal stability and policy for change were not enough for the average hip pocket whats in it for me punter. Oi!

The polls have once again proven they are pretty fuckin useless.

And Sportsbet paid out a mill before it was even called. Epic failure.

Anyone else reckon Clive will be heading to Canberra soon and demanding "You owe me BIG!"

As for Labor I reckon it will either be Albo or Plibersek for leader.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:47am

"No Indo, Australia went for self-interest over any vision for the future.

You're a screaming example of this."

Thats a contraction that doesnt make sense, the best thing for the country is what is best for the majority of voters, its the majority that decides what is best.

Just because you THINK you know what is best for the country, means jack shit, because the reality is it's just your opinion of what is best for the country, which is clearly different from the majority of voters..

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:51am

I focus

It's not just the man, its not just the policys, it's a combination of many different factors.

When you have someone like Shorten that is not likeable comes across as a complete BS artist and then you have poor policy or focus on an issue like climate change trying to scare people into voting for you, but you cant even tell the people what the change will cost, then your screwed.

I was confused how Labor were clear favourites because of this, but luckily common sense prevailed and once again media and polls were wrong and out of touch with the public, just like they were in USA and a clear example of the affluence of the left on our media landscape (which is ironic because we are always told the right like Murdoch control the people through the media)

Time to go back to the drawing board, find a half decent leader, that is likeable and then stop saying black when liberal says white just fir the sake of it, and you might get somewhere.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 25 May 2019 at 9:29pm

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Blowin commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 11:57am

“The most likely outcome of the Adani mine is a DECREASE in jobs in the region.”

Come on mate . I’m no fan of the Adani mine , it’s going to have a massive impact on the environment, it’ll pay negligible tax and it’ll be staffed by underpaid Indian workers , but it will not decrease jobs in the region.

There’ll be big on flow of contracts and peripherals to the local economy, particularly during the construction phase.

Just stick to facts with your argument. There’s enough of them to oppose Adani without drifting into the realm of bullshit.

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lostdoggy commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 12:01pm

BB, do they owe Palmer big time or Palmer owed them and the campaign was his return favour?

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 12:18pm

"Thats a contraction that doesnt make sense,"

You said it.

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I focus commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 12:18pm

LD Coalition did a deal on preferences Palmer has projects that will need support suspect thats where the payback will happen Coalition to Palmer.

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 12:24pm

BB, you made a big point that the best thing a person could do on climate change was not to change individual behaviour but to vote for candidates with a clear policy directive.
Now that strategy has proven to be a complete failure, where to now?

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blindboy commented Saturday, 25 May 2019 at 9:30pm

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 12:53pm

I dunno mate, I really don't.

No, I don't think people will make a change, not at all. I don't see anyone, here or in real life prepared to compromise their middle class existence to reduce per capita consumption.

I'm at a loss. If a weathy country like Aus can't do anything to mitigate it's pissant emissions what chance India and China?

What do I tell my teenage daughter?

Buy shares, get a job with a mining company. Every man woman and child for himself.

Just go fucking surfing and forget about it is all I can come up with right now.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 1:23pm

Blindboy

And "those angry young people" a great deal of those people once they mature and gain wisdom won't vote the same way they do now.

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GuySmiley commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 1:47pm

BB, agree with your comment about Morrison's links to Howard/regressive tax cuts/cuts to services.

The alternative to cutting services if the Senate doesn't play ball is letting debt balloon out which has definitely happened over the last 6 LNP years. In fact debt has doubled.

I'll go further and say it's a deliberate strategic decision of governments from the right the world over to put in place structural restrictions on reasonable tax collections to force all future governments to reduce expenditure (cuts to services). The neo-liberal lie/mantra of small taxing small governments. Equally its easier for these same right governments to run scare campaigns against changes to the status quo with blatant lies e.g. death taxes.

So this morning the country is more divided than ever between north and south and the city and the bush thanks to perhaps the most dishonest election campaign we have witnessed from the LNP. Many of those divisions now get to play out within the coalition as well as the community and naively here I was thinking the role of government was to bring people together.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 2:29pm

Freeride - Tell her to go to the mines and get on as a rigger. Few day course and you’re qualified. There is a powerful gender quota being applied now and any female with a bit of go in her is looking the goods. Not work in the mines but BUILDING the mines. Construction pays much , much better than production . Any large infrastructure construction project- LNG , iron , gold , fertiliser , anything.

Tell her to work her arse off , do as she’s told and get along. Pick the highest paying projects and work her arse off for a minimum of 5 years. Taking cheap , quality time off every opportunity. Minimise travel - no east / west commutes.

Make sure she gets a job with food/ accommodation provided. A penny saved is a penny earned. Make sure everything she earns she saves. Save minimum of 80 percent of yearly earnings.

Tell her to NOT PAY RENT ! Remain at home , or preferably , stay somewhere good for breaks/ R and R . One week at air bnb is cheaper than 5 weeks rent for a 4/1 swing at a house you only live 1 week in 5. And she won’t waste money on spurious shit ,shopping online because she’ll have no where to store it !

Save every penny you can , but spending on things which preserve mental strength and happiness. Tell her to save for a house - no mortgage. There is no rush and interest is a pisstake.

Tell her to study whilst she is working. A lot of time spent in workcamps with fuck all to do except drink/ tv/ gym. Great opportunity to skill up for when she is ready to move on to the next chapter of her life.

Tell her to meet a guy on the same program!

5 years later ....she won’t even be mid twenties and will be able to buy a house CASH with decent change . She will have a degree or equivalent and be ready to move on with her life debt free and happy .

West is the best possibility.

This option is still available for crew that are free and are willing to do shit work in shit places. And you never know , she may love it and work with good crew in an amazing, remote location.

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factotum commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 2:38pm

And keep away from the unions.

You go, girlfriend!

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factotum commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 2:47pm

But seriously, education is key. Steer clear from becoming a lifer or just another dime-a-dozen ex-FIFO lap-top share 'broker' afterwards, whinging away on internet forums between doing 'business'.

Too many of those sad bastards.

Actually, I wish there were more women's voices on here. Maybe there are?

Sadly, I doubt it.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 3:09pm

Facto biting out in his moment of despair.

Chin up mate.

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factotum commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 4:21pm

Australia's despair. It's real. Poor fella, my cuntry.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 4:40pm

'one of us' Qldurrz will share our voting apathy.
Pick any SEQ city then type: Mayor stands down over corruption.(Don't laugh!)

GCCC mayor shirtfronts AEC claiming his brown paper bags shit on (FAD)
That's right our Lib Mayor is only Oz candidate to hide AEC donor receipts.
GCCC Lib Mayor is the only seq Mayor cleared of corruption.(Wins AEC Award)

GCCC has 2 or more large Fed Seats McPherson & Moncrieff...
Moncrieff member was so lazy he had to resign twice in his final term.
See the bar is set to sky high for pigs arse Gold Coast Liberal brilliance.

Since 1906 Coalition has held both Top 10 safest Lib seats in country.
So we can share with you the future of uninterrupted whole of city Liberalism.

Firstly tbb recaps that Lib members need not return calls or lazily reply to letters.
Nor do they need to contribute infrastructure in OZ #1 fastest growing city.
Don't believe me?
Here's tbb's electorate...note M1 grinds to a complete halt each direction x2/day
Yep! Whole nation stops at my house on East Coast day after day.(cough! cough!)

Past Country party ripped up our train line now Qld Labor are slowly rebuilding it!
Rail (most recently completed) Qld Govt $324m>(Varsity Station) Feds...$0.00
Airport link Rail(2016 end date is constantly pushed out further until 2038)
GCCC Liberals shelved people's Train for greedy Timeshare Trolley rate's jackpot.
Qld Labor also feast on Stamp Duty windfall & say fuck the East Coast Bottleneck

Qld Labor are now more Liberal than Liberals.
During campaign tbb got 2 ALP phone calls
1) Do you want your Kid'z Park to become a Casino +10 like questions!
2) I'm dying of Cancer so vote for the ALP... More like a threat these were!

Roads (most recently completed)
Tugun (GC Airport)By-Pass (70% in NSW) Favours NSW regions to Bne mostly.
Qld Labor funded 78% of [m1]
NSW chipped in $0.00 & sent Qld $1m Stamp duty fees for Pony Club
Fed Libs (Johnnie) kicked in a miserly 22% (Standard =90%)
GC liberalism plans GC / East Coast to run on pre steam era Tram Timetable.

Note 2006 ended Johnnie's Govt 90% funded [m1] deals
A-Z Oz construct hike of 40% gst sees Feds delay roads & offer 50% splits
Housing had gone...Nation Building Crumbled...Last Oz Cars & soon Johnny.
Howard spent .4% on road funding > .8% is entrenched GST hike for Oz roads.

Any level of involvement may jeopardize safe Lib seats...do nothing is GC policy.

Qldurrz sniffing out hopeless cases such as Fed Liberal Cabinet.
No fewer than 40 elected current Lib reps turned backs on electorate.
Some even said it straight...gone fishin'
Worst performing Parliament in memory were surely headed for the Tip Yard.
Lib masters lowered the bar just enough to win Qld vote...one of us! one of us!

Top 40 Lib bludger postings...$1billions lucrative Govt rorts up for grabs.
Joe's Hello World tours to buy back the Murray River or Save the GBR.
"Snowy 2.0 Flow-On" has a $2b feed trough for new litter of LNP piggies.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 25 May 2019 at 9:30pm

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 5:38pm

Even though they were not found guilty and only accused of the crime, so innocent as far as the law see's it.

I don't think they should have been let in.

But it actually only highlights the problems associated with the issue with those on Nauru and Manus, when you have no idea who you are dealing with and just about any other refugee could be a security risk with a similar past, many as we know do have very questionable past.

BTW. Dont worry Blindboy the people smugglers would be feeling even more bummed out today than you, they have just missed out on making some very big money.

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blindboy commented Saturday, 25 May 2019 at 9:30pm

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loungelizard commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 5:48pm

this is the funniest thing since trump won and without the anxiety/hysteria associated with trump. makes up for the crows losing, and with dribbleton the last 8 days doing a pretty reasonable imitation of a surf spot! a great week even before I got to read the bleating on here, suck it up boys! I reckon scomo is in for the long haul, guy smiley will be begging for the return of John Howard!

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 5:54pm

Ha ha yeah lounge lizard has been a beautiful weekend.

Pies won again even with some key players out and sit at 2nd on the ladder.

Thought Scomo had no chance but won.

Kelly is through to fourth round. ( Pity JJF didn't make it through though)

And I smashed out the majority of a boardwalk in my garden.

Oh yeah Icing on the cake is seeing all the die hard labor crew who thought it was in the bag in melt down.

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Westofthelake commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 6:02pm

Democracy – someone always has to lose.

"But we are so lucky to be able to live in a country where you can criticise the leaders, where you can make jokes about them on public forums, poke fun at slogans, rage against the establishment and believe whole-heartedly in a cause your government doesn’t and all that happens when it doesn’t go your way is disappointment.

.Democracy. It is imperfect. Of course it is. But it’s ours. And tomorrow is another day.

This country still has big problems. And it will take big, and united, thinking to solve them. Those economic headwinds Scott Morrison has been warning us about are not going anywhere soon. Employment is still a problem. The climate emergency is not getting any smaller. Once the dust settles, and the Coalition tax cuts are legislated, people will look to see what comes next."

So if you ever happen to see Scomo Cap in yout travels, be sure to ask him a few things,

“Mr Morrison

Six years ago the Liberal Party asked Australians to elect it to government.

Which we did 

We too had some requests

We asked for stability; you gave us Abbott, Turnbull, Morrison, Joyce, McCormack. Your fingerprints are on the knives 

We asked for competent ministers; you gave us Price, Payne, Wyatt, Cash, Hunt, Dutton, Tehan, Tudge, Taylor, Littleproud, Porter ... Not that we’ve seen them lately.

We asked for reduced government debt; you doubled it. 

We asked for fairness; you gave the rich tax advantages 

We asked for media laws ensuring diversity; you favoured NewsCorp, gutted the ABC

We asked for substance; you gave us stunts, taxpayer funded flummery

We asked for fair education funding; you reinforced privilege by giving rich schools more gymnasiums, laboratories and playing fields 

We asked for more accessible health; you gave us slogans, pointless announcements, support for private health insurance

We asked for decent treatment of the less well off; you gave us Centrelink stormtroopers, Robotdebt, ParentsNext. Initiatives designed to destroy people’s self respect

We asked for parsimony with taxpayer funds; you gave a $185000000 ‘plebiscite’, a $120000000 one week Christmas Island opening/closing fanfare, $480000000 to Great Barrier Reef Foundation mates

We asked for family values; you gave us Joyce, Broad and Briggs

We asked for lower costs of living; you gave us lower wages.

We asked for excellence; you gave us mediocrity 

We asked for cross party cooperation; you’re now beholden to Palmer, Hanson and Anning 

We asked for sane water policies; you gave water to huge agribusiness donors

We asked for fair sharing of Australia’s riches; you gave us trickle down economics, reduced penalty rates, argued against minimum wage rises

We asked for commitment to Australian industry; you closed automobile manufacturing, did trade deals that screwed Australian secondary industry, included ISDS clauses threatening our sovereignty

We asked for 21st century energy policies; your big stick became a twig, the NEG disappeared and you juggled coal

We asked for wisdom; you gave us marketing

We asked for environmental action; you gave us the Murray-Darling tragedy, Great Barrier Reef tragedy world record species extinction tragedy, land clearing tragedy

We asked for respect for the rule of law; you gave us Ms Cash, whiteboards, taxpayer funded defences for duplicity, politicised, biased royal commissions

We asked for the best people in government positions; you gave us industrial scale nepotism and cronyism  

We asked for open, accountable government; you gave us secrecy, lies, excuses, blame shifting.

We asked for wise handling of climate change; you gave us lies and deflections. You ignored drought, fires, dust storms and floods while subsidising polluters

We asked for a positive future; you gave us a rerun of the worst elements of our past"

Mr Morrison,

FU and the death star crew.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 6:29pm

Indo you realise there're actually very few Labor die-hards on this site?

It's been explained again and again why it might be good for the Libs to lose but you're too thick to get it, your short-sightedness, greed and self interest overrule everything else.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:02pm

ha ha ...someones hurting today hey..

BTW. In regard to your comment earlier today and "short-sightedness, greed and self interest" if i was voting for what i could get out of things in the short term, i would have voted for Labor to get some cheap middle class wealth fare or other perks (Ive even said this before)

But i voted Liberal for myself and family's future, i voted liberal because yes if hard times are ahead of which at some time they are likely to be and we do have recession of some sort, id much rather some sensible leadership that can actually minimise the impact.

Instead of another labor recession like in the 90's that we really only dug out selves out of with Howard.

And with Shorten trying to make the election about climate change and giving no indication of impact and cost on the economy, it would be an absolute disaster having him in power through a recession. (I'm sure many Australians saw this too)

You can say or think what you like call me names and think you are clever, but sorry your not, and luckily we live in a democracy where the majority agrees with me and against all odds, voted Scomo back in as PM.

So basically suck it up.

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factotum commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 6:46pm

And you're surprised, Andy?? He's not the V.I. for nothing.

Then again I'm surprised the Lizard and I share a footy team and he's piss-farting around Dribs instead of surfing Bullies or Waits/Parsons.

Yeah, nah.

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velocityjohnno commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 6:54pm

LL this truly is the funniest thing since Trump won. Every measure of prediction (save social media analysis) has no accuracy. Sportsbet paid out on ALP then had to pay out on Libs. The large map of Australia has very little red and it's all located in inner urban areas. Country QLD, Tassie and WA, they berate and neglect you so this should be a sweet revenge. Palmer and ON are all sorts of horrible, and their preferences actually count.

Blowin top post above, will show it to the young ones.

Glorious day here with the sun setting into the Indian Ocean.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 6:55pm

Hurting at how dense you are.

Sure, tell me about the "shirt term", or even "a contraction that doesnt make sense" you semi-literate motherfukka.

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factotum commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 9:28pm

"Country QLD, Tassie and WA, they berate and neglect you so this should be a sweet revenge."

They? Who are the neglectful and berating 'they'? I live in the country.

"Palmer and ON are all sorts of horrible, and their preferences actually count."

Funny stuff, hey? How's the hilarity?!

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:03pm

shitty day here, showery with small onshore gurgle.

shitty end to a shitty autumn.

New Zealand is looking good.
I don' know if I can hack three years of that happy clapping cunt in a Hurley cap.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:05pm

You been getting some waves FR? There's been some.
I heard that the new Parmenter got intimate with the rocks but came away laughing.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:08pm

"Hurting at how dense you are.

Sure, tell me about the "shirt term", or even "a contraction that doesnt make sense" you semi-literate motherfukka."

Dude i dont care if you insult me, like i said it's obvious you think you are clever, in my experience people like you rarely are.

Just go take a chill pill, you will get over the loss in time.

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:11pm

couple here and there Andy.

yeah, luckily it was my wife that dry docked it ....barely a scratch. It's no Chinese made pop-out thats for sure.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:14pm

Benefits of a good glass job ;)

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freeride76 commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:16pm

yeah I drove straight to Byron and brought the glasser a six pack of the beer of his choice.

actually a four pack of Balter but they fucken charged like it was a six pack.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:19pm

Indo if you
a) don't know what you're talking about
and b) want to gloat about something this serious,
then I think you can wear a few insults/home truths.

Do I think I'm clever? Not particularly but at least I try to take the time to find the info which backs up a point of view.
Love that tall poppy thing - "Fuggin lookit this cunt, thinks eez real smart."

Oz bogan.

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AndyM commented Sunday, 19 May 2019 at 7:22pm

I've had some beautiful little waves the last few days, I won't say too much more but I'm sure you know what I mean.