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But what about the research !?!?
Given that last year Australia withdrew funding to the IOM leaving many with zero income the situation has changed, so yep many probably would choose indefinite detention over immediate starvation. Both consequences of Australian government policy.
Scomo pushed thru most of his agenda in Parliament's holiday season...
Israel Embassy / GG / Oz Day migration scam... but who knew of this one...
Homeland Security IT & processing > VISA Privatisation $1b contract-10 years+
Crew here put in great work on the Boat numbers
[STOP Scomo's Plane People]
Close to 1 million foreign Students are now on visas.
Major OZ Unis have more Foreign Students than Aussies (Chinese mostly)
Planning experts point to increasing swarm that bottlenecks our Oz Cities.
Oz Unis are now funded more by 'foreign money' than Oz/Govt money.
My generation complained of Private influence now it's all foreign to us.
How now can Govt force o/s student funded Unis to adopt English for visas?
Govt dare not apply English Test to Latin / Hebrew Church scholars?
Oz students view their hometown Unis as dumbed down ABC Kindy day care.
50,000 Oz students now flock o/s to seek last fair dinkum english speaking Unis
Oz industry now views Oz Uni Degree as less than fair dinkum.(Prefer foreign!)
[Boat People] Come hell or high water toughed it out for a fair go.
[Plane loads of lazy Rich Kids] Automatically awarded first bite then whole pie.
Aussies can least afford Scomo's 1st Class (Alien Air Invasion Migration)
(Planes are 10x more costly & numerous than Boats) It's just illegal to say so!
Post election- [o/s shareholders decide who comes to Oz & how much to pay]
To bad you never had a say on #1 hot issue whichever way you voted.
Scomo signed near all deals outside of Parliament.
Vote for MP~Senator's rubber stamp.
hmmm . Scott Nofriends or Bull Sheizen ,?
a douche or turd sandwich?
WA voters get a Billboard that former Lib PM has lost his seat
Makes a mockery of Media Blackout...
2hrs of Election Swinging has well & truely Swung their votes.
Pork Barrel follows timezone each & every election.
Happy daze are here again...?
Scomo con job of the century.
BB, you're a bit light on words compared to the thousands you've written in the last couple of months.
You alright mate?
So you reckon Ladbrokes will wait till Monday morning to phone the dipshit that dropped a mil' on Shorten?
Planet Qld is blue & there is nothing tbb can do...
You must understand we Qldurrz need our fix of discipline & corruption.
tbb apologies to fellow Australians for our torrent of bitter swill.
We're immune from yer new batch of hilarious 1st rate Qld jokes...Ha! Ha!
More humane for Oz to wipe Qld off the Map...we don't deserve a countdown.
I'm a bodybasher...Get me outta here!
I'm a Queenslander too TB and to be honest I never doubted the coalition would get back in. The msn were relentless in pushing the labor barrow, fark this very website too. But, when you were able to actually read the comments that followed the articles, the sentiment was more often at odds with the narrative.
Labor were light on policy, lacking in accountability and instead of building up mainstream Australia were looking for ways to penalise 'normal' people. Goodness, a married working couple on 80k each is not the big end of town.
Plus, Shorten would have to be one of the most unlikeable pollies ever. Maybe they shoulda run with Albo.
Stoked that fucker Abbot got done though.
Got to love an under dog.
Looks like bull shit Bill has highly likely lost the un loseable election.
"Plus, Shorten would have to be one of the most unlikeable pollies ever"
Yep always thought he was Labor's version of Abbott.
"Labor were light on policy..."
And that's a comment from someone that has shown healthy signs of rational thought.
Australia is kinda embarrassing, hey?
"Got to love an under dog."
Gawd help us all.
And the best thing is, no more leadership changes it's Scoooommmmmo all the way :D
Just goes to show that the workers may no longer be the minority. At least, workers who have an investment property and a franking income in their retirement plans. The young will become the victim of the prevailing middle class
... and I’ve never voted Labor!
Australia. You're standing in it.
Ok facto, shoulda said they were both light on policy.
Can we call it 'The Shorten Effect'?
Probs is, both parties have moved away from their core in their race to the bottom.
Hmmm, let it sink it in. A Labor platform to certainly criticise yet build on, including building other parties interested in moving onwards more progressively...
....and now more of this!? FFS.
Backwards to square what?
As in the past, I'm surprised I'm surprised.
I think this is a golden opportunity. Interesting times lay ahead, for both parties. Once bitten or should we make that thrice and all that?
Btw, not wishing to speak ill of the dead and certainly maybe a little too soon but I'd actually met Hawkie a few times. Let's say his public persona differed to his private. And, he was a fucking cheat on the golf course.
So you'll have to excuse me in not joining in the national mourning.
Ever meet John Howard?
Yep, he's a see you en tea.
I also know a bloke who got a blowie from Melanie at Kirribilli during a party- but that was a long time ago.
Keating is a champ.
Direct more Top end welfare to Tax Dodgerz that now rule the ruling classes.
GST killed Oz Dream then car industry now a crack in the pavement needs a loan.
Wooden Paddle for a Paddle Pop requires a Govt handout to trace GST papertrail.
Fuck it! Just bulk order any non labor taxed worldly imports for all things Oz.
Uni teachers face the sack for failing to teach Chinese Class in native Chinese.
Meanwhile Oz kids enter Lotto draws for o/s English Lesson scholarship!
Australia! Can & must do better!
Qldurrz vow to fix up our fuckup...d'd'don't you worry 'bout that.
It's a reverse Fightback 1993.
Fairly embarrassing result, Australia. However you try and spin it. And rest assured, there willl be spin.
From our reliable, yet not in any way culpable, media mates.
Fuck. Hands up who has the energy and wherewithal for a ProMo regime 'fightback' on these tawdry threads? For another 3 years?
Gordon Bennett. Good luck and good night.
"Gotta Love Australians" Scotty said...and he's right.
Aussies saw through fakeness and put a good man in . God obviously loves Australia and he rescued us from the brink of stupidity.
We also don't have to put up with the Turnbull / Abbott boxing match anymore.
There are some tough times ahead, but we have the best man at the helm to deal with it so be encouraged by that. Time to relax and enjoy life again and if you have a good idea, write to your local Lib / Nat person. Change the world with solutions, ideas and alternatives, not by bagging or whining at people. Solar panels made in Australia with Solar electricity would be a start. Start being self sufficient again and do it clean and smart, stop importing things we can make. Pay cash for everything so the banks don't own us, tell them to stick their microchips. I'm going to celebrate and buy a new Australian made board (cash in store of course). Good a reason as any since my retirement is safe and my kids businesses will continue to prosper and grow, hiring more people through less tax.....Tis a great new day!
Are you saying the election result was divine intervention?
Chin up Facto
Not surprised in the slightest. These are conservative times, thanks mostly to terrorism. My green vote goes unseen, again. At least it felt good.
The beat goes on
La de da de de
La de da de da
He gives power to kings, and he takes their power away. He gives wisdom ... It is God who alters the times and seasons, and he removes kings and promotes kings. .
We are the ants, He is the big guy....a very very big guy who does what He likes regardless of what we think..
Will he kill you with cancer one day?
Got to be a scary thought, being a pawn in a game
Last time we'll ever see an opposition put their policies on the table.
I expect it'll be more of the same old, same old from now on. No federal ICAC, no Murray Darling Royal Commission, more corporate rentseeking, tax loopholes remain, climate action can get fucked, and watch as the LNP pull more funding from the ABC next May.
But hey, at least ScoMo has charisma....
And the result in Warringah was divine intervention too?
And Dawson (George Christensen), and New England (Barnaby Joyce)?
We may not like those guys, but obviously someone does. That's democracy and it it is what it is. A chess board has main players and pawns. When I played footy, I didnt like all the guys on my team but it was what it was and other people liked those guys.
You can't accuse Labour of having no policies, they took a full suite of policies in to this election.
Unlike last election, where the Libs/Turnbull Signature policy was a company tax cut, ScoMo took no signature policy or vision to the Australian electorate.
His one policy, ruthlessly executed was Don't Trust Shorten, Don't trust Labour.
That was enough.
Ironically, in an election touted as the "climate change" election people in the city, who are least likely to be affected, voted for climate focussed independents.
The country, who will be, and are currently being affected, by climate change voted for one thing and one thing only. That is Coal.
QLD voted for coal and coal mining and that pretty much decided the election.
What do the kids do now?
The country voted and voted to dig the shitt out of the ground and burn it.
Thats it. Adani will go ahead and it's business as usual, except instead of hitting the brakes we hit the accelerator.
We're locked in now. God help us all.
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now there's a thought , divine intervention .....one party's leader a self confessed Christian , opposed to gay marriage and abortion ,the other ....rejected by the Australian electorate......??
A triumph of style over substance. The US was foolish enough to elect a failed businessman. Australia just elected a failed ad man. Poor fellow my country. The most revealing comment of the night came from Abbott who said that Labor did well when climate change was considered as a MORAL issue but the LNP did well when it was considered as an economic one. This was a clear, though unnecessary, admission that the LNP's scare campaign around climate change was IMMORAL! So much for Opitimists's theory.
FR , " God help us all"...have you converted to Christianity , now there's a miracle and
maybe he just did help you afterall!
BB , I think that after reading just about every article this morning on the why's and why nots...it's pretty clear that the battlers /working class / farm folk , were more worried about the economy/taxes and climate change was a distant 3rd.....the rich/middle class can worry about it . but a lot of others are in survival mode , and climate change seems to them just something that might affect them eventually ..nut now it's Klingon mode!
Correct Sharkman. Anyone else know the names of their unborn grandchildren? I do, mine will be Poppie & Georgie, according to my daughter. Thats who will be affected, eventually of course, like you say.
But hey, a quick buck is a good buck
Personally im stoked with result and decided to put Liberals second on my ballot.
I honestly thought he had no chance, so to seal a win as an underdog is the ultimate victory, especially after the past few years of infighting etc all the odds were against him.
IMHO Scomo has the potential to be one of our better prime ministers he has proven himself as immigration minister, he is likeable and comes across as a real person, has a bit of that real everyday Aussie factor about him and much less toxic than most politicians.
(sure people here will disagree but Australia just agreed with me)
Only tip id give him is to keep the religious aspects behind closed doors.
BTW. Zenagain summed it up pretty well in the other thread
"Labor has to stop trying to be all things to all people, stop pandering to these vocal minorities and focus on what brought them success in the first place- the bloody workers! Also sensible economic management, genuine tax reform without penalising the middle class and looking after the environment."
.........from the self-confessed hip pocket voter. Don't ask me what is good for my country, just tell me what's in it for me.
Someone explain to me how labor's policies were "penalising the middle class".
Slomo is a slimy charlatan, he's about as real as a fake moon landing. Bad actor who sucked people in. The way he glommed onto the Cronulla sharks as his footy team is exhibit A.
Exactly LD, there was no penalising of the middle class. Tax cuts were optimised for the middle class.
sharkman, the LNP ran a massive scare campaign. In Queensland Palmer spent $70 million doing the same. I think in your analysis you are mixing up those genuinely doing it tough with those who have prospered over the years and want to hold on to their lifestyle ........ nothing wrong with that unless you expect to be subsidised by the tax payer as large numbers of them are one way or another through negative gearing, franking credits, superannuation concessions etc. My electorate which contains many genuine battlers posted a swing to Labor and I suspect that this would be true in many other locations, even if it did not show across the whole electorate. In Queensland the LNP, with Palmer's help, have played a cruel joke on those who voted for them believing Adani would go ahead and create or save their jobs. Adani, if it even does go ahead, will do the exact opposite. It will be the most highly automated mine in the world and create very few jobs, further it will out compete many smaller mines and put them out of business. The most likely outcome of the Adani mine is a DECREASE in jobs in the region.