Interesting stuff

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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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san Guine Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 1:33pm

Here's an innovative piece of corporate bastardry...from the cradle to the grave

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-14/smoking-giant-philip-morris-take-...

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Blowin Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 2:59pm

Scientist #1: “ I wonder how effective this new fuel fire inhibitor would be in the case of a Boeing 720 crash?”

Scientist #2: “ Only one way to find out.”

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 3:41pm

Hmmm that looks like me on Microsoft Flight Simulator...

Scientist 1: "Let's get a huge plane and land it on an aircraft carrier."
Scientist 2: "I like your style."

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zenagain Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 4:40pm

Hmmm... that was interesting. Heart in your mouth stuff having to do it for the very first time.

Recently I went to an aeronautical museum down near narita and for a bit of extra cash got to have a 30 min training sesh and got to land a Boeing 737 Max in a real simulator. It's amazing how real it is. What's even more amazing is how much stuff you have to remember to get the plane down, even with all the additional computer aids.

I managed somehow to land safely- bit rough but I got her down.

It was an interesting and insightful experience.

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Blowin Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 4:56pm

My old man programmed the flight simulators at QANTAS for 25 years before moving to the Navy to do the same. Pretty cool stuff. I wish I’d shown more interest in his work cause he loved it with a passion.

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Blowin Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 5:23pm

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water…..

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-58552057

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simba Tuesday, 14 Sep 2021 at 5:39pm

unreal more surf buddies to share with

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Supafreak Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 10:48am

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seaslug Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 11:26am

Coming to Dunes soon as Twiggy builds his resort

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garyg1412 Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 2:25pm
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Hmmm... that was interesting. Heart in your mouth stuff having to do it for the very first time.

Recently I went to an aeronautical museum down near narita and for a bit of extra cash got to have a 30 min training sesh and got to land a Boeing 737 Max in a real simulator. It's amazing how real it is. What's even more amazing is how much stuff you have to remember to get the plane down, even with all the additional computer aids.

I managed somehow to land safely- bit rough but I got her down.

It was an interesting and insightful experience.

Zen I did a father/son thing in Newcastle once for kids going that had gone off the rails (long story). Anyway it was run by a local fighter pilot from Williamtown RAF Base and involved a sit down and chat about life with the group, then we all had a crack at flying this single prop plane over the Hunter Valley.

You literally took over once you were up and handed control back at about 100 feet from the runway and once landed had to steer it back to the hanger. Most insane thing I've ever done in my life. Ended up in the grass though - steering a moving object with a tail rudder is no easy feat.

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zenagain Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 2:36pm

Ha ha! Awesome Gary.

Pilots are certainly a different breed I reckon.

I got to pilot/steer a seaplane once and I was drunk at the time.

Long story.

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 4:24pm

M&D bought us light aircraft flight, I get up there and in control, shown how to avoid a spiral downward etc and the pilot says "OK, I'm going to shut off the engine now," and I was like "No, no, don't do that, plane need motor." Anyway, I learned I could glide it. Bro, much like Zen, had been on the turps before his go and the pilots were seen swapping money on whether he would hurl. He looked destroyed afterward. First stop sign in car, driving home afterward, checked 6 directions including up/down.
Uncles flew everything from DC3 to 747-400s, one still flying into his 80s.

Tell us your inebriated seaplane story Zen!

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 4:26pm

And a link to some multi-millionare level surfing sex drug hedonism, RIP:

https://therake.com/stories/icons/bunker-spreckels-sex-drugs-sugar/

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Optimist Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 5:30pm

I got to fly an Auster light aircraft at Broken Hill when I was 15...The guy I was staying with was a pilot and let me fly for ages with some serious power dives etc over the desert...I remember it had canvas wings...Best fun ever.

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 5:54pm

I use to travel between Phillip Island and Tassie for holidays in a little cessna and once the pilot let this kid about ten years old steer...i guess the pilot really has control all the time with his steering wheel though...but at first i was like WTF?...(i was sitting in next seat behind them)

Also went for a job interview at Fraser island with the missus about 15 years ago where they flew us up from the Sunny Coast (landed on the beach on Fraser) anyway the pilot couldn't get the plane started (it was just us) and he kept trying, going fuck fuck, rang his boss asking how to start it etc, had to wait 10 minutes before trying again, he finally got it started, but it was a bit dodgy.

Like an old car that you cant start.

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Craig Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 5:50pm

Haha gold stories. I can say I piloted the Manly fast ferry in towards the Sydney Harbour Bridge and Circular Quay. So touchy though with the controls, a little joystick that with the lag meant I was always over-correcting at first.

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 6:53pm

Nice Craig, the kids were allowed to drive the Acadia (iirc) a 100+yo Huon Pine ferry on the Pieman in Tassie, traditional wheel and all!

Indo here's a famous photo in the image link of a plane landed on Fraser with the wreck of the Maheno, circa 1935

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_dHMUkWjxiWM/TU4Z8uaayEI/AAAAAAAAJI8/E5546Qd81A...

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Blowin Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 7:10pm

I drove your daughters in the nineties.

And they loved it.

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shoredump Wednesday, 15 Sep 2021 at 7:36pm

It’s par for the course with me, every time I’ve taken friends or family up for a joy flight I’ll always hand over the controls

Schools are happy to give you a taster so you could book a 1hr lesson knowing you’ll be in charge of quite a few things, including the takeoff! Sickest fun

You can legally fly solo before you get your drivers licence

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stunet Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 6:08am

Best thing I'll read today. Hilarious.

Cheers, Udo.

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simba Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 6:41am

second that!

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Distracted Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 6:57am

Nuclear submarines fo Oz?! They have to be fkn kidding.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-15/allied-naval-united-states-biden-...
I can understand the defence benefits of a nuclear sub with range and whatever other features but they will underestimate public backlash.

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 8:15am

Great decision as our previous Sub plan was Substandard .

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Westofthelake Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 8:56am

Funny stuff Udo! One two miss a few!

RE the sub Subs, I wonder if the Feds have even told WA of their plan?

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 11:05am

Nuclear Subs is a very smart move by the government !

It replaces a shit previous decision to buy/build substandard subs .

It places nuclear power on the next election agenda . Both Labor and Greens will be thinking it is a gift from heaven . They will be proved wrong again imo .

It introduces nuclear energy as a possible way to reduce CO2 emissions . The only way I can see Australia getting to Net Zero CO2 by 2050 .

I hope carbon credit trading is not part of this plan !!! I can guarantee that Wall Street has a plan to dominate this system and do what they always do - rape and pillage .

They will make trillions from it . I also know that if Wall Street make trillions EVERYBODY else will lose out . It is just how it works .

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 12:12pm

The mood in the US has changed dramatically . Have you seen the football games where the crowd is chanting F..k Joe Biden ? These polls prove it .

"But here in September 2021, both sides of the political spectrum are very angry. Just check out these stunning numbers from a brand new CNN poll…

A new CNN poll finds that 74% of U.S. adults now say they are “very or somewhat angry” about the way things are going in the U.S. today — that includes 88% of Republicans, 70% of independents and even 67% of Democrats. But wait, there’s more.

Another 69% of U.S. adults now say that things are going “pretty or very badly” in the country these days — that includes 91% of Republicans, 72% of independents and 49% of Democrats.

Those numbers are crazy. Just a few months ago, there was so much optimism, but now the mood of the nation has completely shifted.

Surprisingly, that same CNN poll asked a question about illegal immigration, and it found that even most Democrats are concerned about “the movement of undocumented immigrants”…

Seems like they regret their voting at the last election . Missing Trump !

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 12:31pm

I really really hope Trump runs again next election, even if he doesn't get in, just the entertainment factor of the election campaign will be top notch.

Nuclear subs, i heard the Greens are against the idea even though carbon free, apparently they believe solar powered subs are better despite the need to come up to recharge batteries on the surface every few hours.

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sypkan Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 1:06pm

"The mood in the US has changed dramatically . Have you seen the football games where the crowd is chanting F..k Joe Biden ? These polls prove it ."

whilst I agree the mood has changed significantly... those vids were quite a let down, being hyped big time by all the usual suspects... when you click on them, there was about 100 private school tools in blazers, trying to get a chant going, amidst granstands of thousands, didn't even make it to booze hill bogan 'davos a wanker' status...

""But here in September 2021, both sides of the political spectrum are very angry. Just check out these stunning numbers from a brand new CNN poll…

A new CNN poll finds that 74% of U.S. adults now say they are “very or somewhat angry” about the way things are going in the U.S. today — that includes 88% of Republicans, 70% of independents and even 67% of Democrats. But wait, there’s more.

Another 69% of U.S. adults now say that things are going “pretty or very badly” in the country these days — that includes 91% of Republicans, 72% of independents and 49% of Democrats."

how could you not be angry? ...the country is in the midst of a bloody shambles, with a president that needs constantly surrounding by carers and damage controllers rather than much needed advisors, and an agenda that is totally off the rails

the only people denying its a bloody shambles are the die hardest of die hard supporters, the still deranged ...still!!?... and his PR team, ...and even these 3 groups are appearing more and more demoralised by the day....

"Those numbers are crazy. Just a few months ago, there was so much optimism, but now the mood of the nation has completely shifted."

wait til winter hits... and another wave of the rona blues...

"Surprisingly, that same CNN poll asked a question about illegal immigration, and it found that even most Democrats are concerned about “the movement of undocumented immigrants”…"

again... how could you not be angry? ...over a million people have crossed the border under big joe's big invite... they're basically riddled with corona, which isn't a judgement, its just a reality... and they are caught and released into the wider community, with no vaccinations... ...what could possibly go wrong?

aside from the hypocrisy, recklessness, and ridiculousness being ever exposed by big joe's ever evolving authoritarianism on the matter, it's a disaster...

"Seems like they regret their voting at the last election . Missing Trump !"

I don't think there's that many that are actually missing trump...

but it does seem there's a hell of a lot that had no idea a biden / harris administration could be so bad...

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sypkan Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 12:52pm

"It places nuclear power on the next election agenda . Both Labor and Greens will be thinking it is a gift from heaven . They will be proved wrong again imo ."

you're dreaming there!

"It introduces nuclear energy as a possible way to reduce CO2 emissions . The only way I can see Australia getting to Net Zero CO2 by 2050 ."

I'll take carbon over nuclear and the cult of carbon zero anyday ...and I think a lot of aussies agree...

"I hope carbon credit trading is not part of this plan !!! I can guarantee that Wall Street has a plan to dominate this system and do what they always do - rape and pillage .

They will make trillions from it . I also know that if Wall Street make trillions EVERYBODY else will lose out . It is just how it works ."

you're right there, it's s scam, coupled with the hollowness of the ever developing social media social credit system... it'll be the scammiest scam of the century...

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 12:56pm

Re: the sub decision, that's a big call. Aus - UK - US trilateral security partnership is huge: imagine the big new Brit carriers operating with Australian AWD in the Pacific (been done before). The subs are going to go from respectable (Collins class after problems ironed out were very stealthy, new French ones would be one of most capable diesel-electrics) to absolutely fearsome. They take time to build tho. Wonder what happens to ASC?

Article points out reasoning: "replace its existing Collins class subs with a boat more suitable to the deteriorating strategic environment." Last few paras point out the naval build up in the north which is something we have discussed before on these forums, at time of US election and policy not appearing to change drastically from the Trump admin. With US out of Afghanistan, the periphery of the global continent is more defined, and the oceanic powers are concentrating their naval depth.

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garyg1412 Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 1:06pm
indo-dreaming wrote:

I use to travel between Phillip Island and Tassie for holidays in a little cessna and once the pilot let this kid about ten years old steer...i guess the pilot really has control all the time with his steering wheel though...but at first i was like WTF?...(i was sitting in next seat behind them)

Also went for a job interview at Fraser island with the missus about 15 years ago where they flew us up from the Sunny Coast (landed on the beach on Fraser) anyway the pilot couldn't get the plane started (it was just us) and he kept trying, going fuck fuck, rang his boss asking how to start it etc, had to wait 10 minutes before trying again, he finally got it started, but it was a bit dodgy.

Like an old car that you cant start.

I used to fly regularly from Bridport to Flinders Island with this old bloke. I remember the first time I went we had to put our lifejackets on before boarding. Then he pulls out his calculator and asks each one of us what we weighed. I think I had white knuckles before boarding. Used to do the Wynyard - King Island trip as well and taking off from Wynyard one day you couldn't see out the front windscreen because of the hail. I thought we were going to die landing at King Island. Worst experience ever.

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 2:28pm

I love making big calls Jonno . I turned the swear jar at work ($135 ) into $1500ish betting on Brexit and Trump . Made a charity very happy .

Going to really enjoy Labor and the Greens come a cropper on this issue . They make a habit of getting blindsided .

It will be the Nuclear Election and it will be great seeing them go Nuclear when the unexpectedly loose again . Two Bradbury's !

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 3:36pm
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indo-dreaming wrote:

I use to travel between Phillip Island and Tassie for holidays in a little cessna and once the pilot let this kid about ten years old steer...i guess the pilot really has control all the time with his steering wheel though...but at first i was like WTF?...(i was sitting in next seat behind them)

Also went for a job interview at Fraser island with the missus about 15 years ago where they flew us up from the Sunny Coast (landed on the beach on Fraser) anyway the pilot couldn't get the plane started (it was just us) and he kept trying, going fuck fuck, rang his boss asking how to start it etc, had to wait 10 minutes before trying again, he finally got it started, but it was a bit dodgy.

Like an old car that you cant start.

I used to fly regularly from Bridport to Flinders Island with this old bloke. I remember the first time I went we had to put our lifejackets on before boarding. Then he pulls out his calculator and asks each one of us what we weighed. I think I had white knuckles before boarding. Used to do the Wynyard - King Island trip as well and taking off from Wynyard one day you couldn't see out the front windscreen because of the hail. I thought we were going to die landing at King Island. Worst experience ever.

Yeah that's where i use to fly into or out of Wynyard and it also use to go from Phillip Island to king Island, i remember we use to get standby flights, so just go to the airport and get a cheap seat if there was room.

Do you know Macca from Flinders Island? (believe he is the only surfer living there these days, good surfer too)

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 3:52pm

I was wrong ( again ) ! The Labor party were briefed beforehand and have supported the idea .

Keating is furious and Carr is just waiting for his speech to come from China .

Well done Dutton and Scomo for finally not listening to the Canberra bureaucrats .

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views from the ... Thursday, 16 Sep 2021 at 5:59pm

Back in the day flew plenty of hours in a Piper Cherokee.
One highlight was buzzing camels in the desert and low flying around Ayers Rock (as it was known) before landing at the strip just next to it and climbing the rock.

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chook Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 11:20am
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https://www.gofundme.com/f/rebuilding-a-life-for-darko-dougie-desic

all the best to him.
in prison for growing marijuana...un-fukcen-believable.

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Blowin Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 11:39am

What’s that? You think the vaccine passports will simply disappear one day and Certainly won’t be used as a Trojan horse for the development of a universal digital ID used to track and control every single aspect of your life?

Classic.

“In particular, during the COVID-19 pandemic, restrictions on individuals for the sake of public health, and forms of individual accountability and responsibility that were unthinkable only one year before, have been adopted by millions of people. People may be more prepared to accept the tracking and limitations related to PCAs to achieve a safer climate and the many other benefits (for example, reduced air pollution and improved public health) associated with addressing the climate crisis. Other lessons that could be drawn relate to the public acceptance in some countries of additional surveillance and control in exchange for greater safety. For instance, in many countries, mobile apps designed for COVID-19 infection tracking and tracing played an important part in limiting the spread of the pandemic. The deployment and testing of such apps provide technology advances and insights for the design of future apps for tracking personal emissions. Recent studies show how COVID-19 contact-tracing apps were successfully implemented with mandatory schemes in several East Asian countries, such as China, Taiwan and South Korea43. In these countries, the apps assessed each user’s travel history and health status, playing a key role in tracking infections43. These unique natural experiments give insights into possible strategies to use apps to track PCAs. For instance, the many digital contact-tracing algorithms that were developed and tested43,44 provide initial valuable information for the design of future apps that—for example—estimate emissions on the basis of tracking the user’s movement history. However, the adoption of such apps also raised issues regarding the balance between data privacy concerns and public health45. A recent review showed that only 16 of 50 reviewed contact-tracing apps explicitly state that the user’s data will be made anonymous, encrypted and secured and reported only in an aggregated format46. Such a balance is also perceived differently in diverse countries. Initial evidence points to various issues related to adopting such schemes in liberal democracies such as in Europe and the United States—where data privacy, trust and ethical issues strongly limited participation in contact-tracing efforts during the COVID-19 pandemic46. Such resistance itself also provides important lessons for future PCA-tracking apps. For instance, new regulations have been suggested to address data privacy concerns and security vulnerabilities when using these apps43 and significant technological advances were made for privacy-preserving contact-tracing apps44. These advances could help pave the way for the adoption of PCA schemes. However, citizen engagement and participatory approaches would be needed to design and implement PCA schemes that balance personal liberties with delivering climate aims in a socially acceptable manner.“

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41893-021-00756-w

The era of individual liberty is coming to an end.

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freeride76 Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 11:46am

People gave that away years ago when they first bought a smart phone. Health apps track every single detail of your life.
Location tracking etc etc.

Surveillance capitalism has been endemic for a decade.

":Initial evidence points to various issues related to adopting such schemes in liberal democracies such as in Europe and the United States—where data privacy, trust and ethical issues strongly limited participation in contact-tracing efforts during the COVID-19 pandemic46."

Denmark ditched their Covid Passport.

I think we will follow suit.
Thats if we ever get one.

Probably need some kind of cert to get OS.

I could be wrong, we'll see.

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seaslug Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 12:05pm

Hope its not designed by the same mob who developed the Aust COVIDSafe App

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Blowin Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 12:37pm

Freeride- yeah, nah. The ol’ “We Already Have Smartphones So We’re Already Cooked” argument is a shallow waste of your time. No one has to leave the house with their smart phones. No one has to sign up to Facey or Twitter. No one has to use health apps.

If you’d read the link that I provided, you realise that the Digital ID will be used to not just track but also control everything we do. The climate change imperative is the next cab off the “Energency Authorisation “ rank. It’ll be power usage, kilometres travelled in your car. Food consumption. Alcohol consumption. The Chinese social credit system with Australian characteristics.

And the usual useful idiots will bolster its implementation with their vociferous shouts of “If you’re not doing anything wrong you’ve got nothing to fear”. Unfortunately it’s the subjectivity and arbitrary nature of wrong and right which spoils that little opinion.

It’s neofeudalism. The average punter in the street will be controlled to within an inch of existence whilst the powerful and the rich live as they please. We are already seeing the tip of that iceberg with things such as international travel restrictions. Soon it’ll permeate every aspect of life and be overseen and policed with the digital ID which knows your every move. Compound this with a central bank issued digital currency and your entire life will be surveilled and subject to remote control by authority.

Three people died in NSW today whilst fully vaccinated. The vaccine passport is not about preventing transmission, infections or deaths. It’s a ruse to get everyone on the digital ID.

If the Digital ID doesn’t get up under the auspice of Covid it’ll simply reappear under another justification. Likely that of climate change. In the meantime the population of Earth will be encouraged to voluntarily surrender their freedoms through the take up of internet technology as you mentioned. New generations will be encouraged to believe that human existence is not possible or worthwhile without the intrusion of technology into every single aspect of our lives.

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freeride76 Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 1:28pm

"If you’d read the link that I provided, you realise that the Digital ID will be used to not just track but also control everything we do."

I read the article.

It's speculation about what might happen but as in the excerpt I highlighted above they make clear that as in Covid tracking apps there may be " where data privacy, trust and ethical issues strongly limited participation in contact-tracing efforts during the COVID-19 pandemic46."

But, you may be right.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 1:35pm

Just wondering if anyone here is still rocking a dumbphone (and thus signing in manually)? These text-based forums are apparently the Triassic nowadays (but they work) - any luddites in the SN community? Any moonshiners powering their cars on devil's liquid of one form or another?

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sypkan Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 1:48pm

"People gave that away years ago when they first bought a smart phone. Health apps track every single detail of your life.
Location tracking etc etc.

Surveillance capitalism has been endemic for a decade."

you can have a smart phone without buying into the whole surveillance capitalism thing

don't get a health app

turn off location services

fixed

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sypkan Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 2:01pm

and if you're a serious conscientious objector...

use a different email for every new device you get

don't sync your devices

and use a vpn

people constantly complain of targeted marketing, stalky ads, and algorithm news and video bubbles that develope...

I don't have any of these problems

it seems my phone doesn't even know who I am!

and what a pleasure it has become to use... since we became like tinder sluts passing in the night...

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indo-dreaming Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 1:53pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

Just wondering if anyone here is still rocking a dumbphone (and thus signing in manually)? These text-based forums are apparently the Triassic nowadays (but they work) - any luddites in the SN community? Any moonshiners powering their cars on devil's liquid of one form or another?

I have a smart phone, but dont use it to check in at shops etc, i dont care about surveillance or whatever, it just didnt work first time i tried, cant be bothered downloading anything to make it work, i only sign in if i really have to, just over it all.

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velocityjohnno Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 2:11pm

Similar here with the phone, didn't work and don't use the phone much tbh.

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