Next Federal Election
velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
A UBI of $200K a year? To paraphrase the late George Best, I'd spend $100K of it on booze and women and the other half I'd just blow.
southernraw wrote:Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??
It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .
thermalben wrote:I question her political temperament. She reminds me of Tony Abbott - effective in opposition when the goal is to attack and displace, but ineffective once any kind of leadership is required.
Yep she's an attack dog with a big nasty streak.
Very hard to imagine her having a cohesive team following her.
Confusion wrote:southernraw wrote:Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .
Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.
I hope she gets in. There’d be so many noses out of joint the Liberals would be cooked. Taylor-Price……….getting told exactly what to do by Gina and grifting hard.
southernraw wrote:Confusion wrote:southernraw wrote:Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.
I agree, but it doesn’t worry me,
If people are like they are, they are like they are,
Not my responsibility.
Plus they don’t like the big yellow writing of Meidastouch ?!
Cool I may even keep working if they offer me $200k. Will be happy to vote Green as well for that.
Confusion wrote:southernraw wrote:Confusion wrote:southernraw wrote:Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.
I agree, but it doesn’t worry me,
If people are like they are, they are like they are,
Not my responsibility.
Plus they don’t like the big yellow writing of Meidastouch ?!
hahahaha! Brilliant. And wise words. Cheers and keep it up.
southernraw wrote:Confusion wrote:southernraw wrote:Confusion wrote:southernraw wrote:Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.
I agree, but it doesn’t worry me,
If people are like they are, they are like they are,
Not my responsibility.
Plus they don’t like the big yellow writing of Meidastouch ?!hahahaha! Brilliant. And wise words. Cheers and keep it up.
Thanks , thumb up emoji.
2025 Chix glass ceiling smashes thru the floor of the house...man overboard
Chix are coming thru > Mind the Gap Data Set
Male Primary Parents > 2017 (5%) > 2025 (17%) vs Women with Chronic Work Pain 80%
Boards 32% Degrees 36.9% Full Employ 39.6% Media 50% GPs 50% Olympians 56%
2022 Govt Women : LNP 20% Reps 38% ALP 47% Jobs 54.4% > Senate 57% > ALP Members 70%
1994 ALP Caucus = 14% Women
2002 ALP Sistas 35% of pre-selection seats
2015 ALP Sisterhood Quota > 2022 Election = 45% seats (Target)
2016 Sistahood
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/15/women-stand-in-re...
2022 ALP Sistas exceeded their 45% target = 47% or 37/78 seats
(2025 Election) ALP Sista Seats (50% Target)
Basically or importantly > ALP Male 1/2 Leaders never envisaged or permitted a Chix Takeover!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/11/australia-federal...
29th April 2025 (tbb shared record drop in AEC 2025 Chix Canditates)
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/politico/577285?page=74
Q: Has this rise in violence against female Politicians impeded upon Women's Democratic Rights?
A: Yes!
tbb will salute the first electoral analyst to notice 2025 record 2.3% drop in female candidates!
That might not sound a lot but data screams that it is a major setback > Asleep at the wheel!
Epic Rise of Oz Women Candidates > Hits brick wall & back trax 3-4 years in real time...Oopsie!
2013 = 27.6% > 2016 = 31.8% > 2019 = 34.3% > 2022 = 39.9% > 2025 = 37.6% (1st Solid Drop!)
https://www.aec.gov.au/media/2025/04-12.htm
Indie Chix massive drop off as Major Parties quotas Increased Female Candidates.
ALP (2022/46% > 2025/56%) Above 2025 ALP Rep 50% Quota
LNP (2022/29% > 2025/32%)
tbb is sharing majority ALP Govt Employees / Senate stoked majority Women's House Rep candidates.
Important to establish this aim of Total Women's Control of Govt agenda was intended. (Not anomaly!)
2025 Despite a record first drop in Female candidates > Governing ALP were stoking extra Gurl power!
tbb's casual observation reads between the lines to forecast higher Women's Power in Parliament.
(Saying...)
*Important...this observation is at risk of being ignored should more chix be elected to power...got it!
tbb has no doubt more chix will be elected and ignore the Glass Ceiling floor is dropping away!
Here's what just happened....
2022 Peak Covid Indie / Teal Women candidates drowned out [L] ALP Rep Women
2025 Less Indie Women candidates allowed ALP to rise up & promote more Rep Chix!
5th May 2025 Record Breaking number of Women to enter Oz Parliament (Mostly ALP chix)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-05/record-number-women-elected-austr...
https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/voting-and-results/48t...
6th May 2025 [L] Hampered by lack of Chix Power
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/liberal-party-yet-to-resolve-issu...
7th May 2025 Elected ALP Caucus = 57% Women's Agenda (This article reflects tbb's observations)
From (tbb earlier) ALP / Left faction Mandate Caucus > House > Senate = 3 years Woman's Agenda
Women quite rightly salute ALP 57% but likewise question ALP Chix leadership Void >
Calling for nothing short of Deputy PM scalp > They want it Now or Albo will lose his throne.
This means > Massive ALP Victory will cost them Expert MP's of Law / Defence / Industry / Science
Some bittersweet Victory Huh! Gotta dumb down ALP Agenda to pander to Chix Power Portfolios!
Of course Male Media are too stupid to notice > Not Chix Media > They want an ALP blood sacrifice!
https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/when-will-we-see-more-women-in-labors...
tbb's last comment alerts Constituents to Albo's biggest enemy his own Chix Army rising up!
Whereby [LNP] Need elect a Chick leader to undermine Albo's Power Base by stoking his Chix Power!
Ley & now Price is switching to [L] & gunning for Deputy > Forces Albo to bouquet a Bridesmaid!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-08/jacinta-nampijinpa-price-joins-li...
Albo knows this and wasted no time with Stacking Mates Agenda before 2025-28 Oz Chix Takeover!
8th May ALP Factions Choose Cab' Positions > Dumped selective Senior Jew/Muslim Ministers
9th May ALP 2022 MP's Caucus Vote is ceremonial as Albo can overrule
13th May New Ministry sworn in Canberra...all sorted > now on with the Wedding Plans...(Cough!)
[L] Also elect a new Leader in Canberra on same day...
tbb smirks at Yuppie Male Media getting us up to speed with hip Younger Set...
Crikey delve into SuSSan Numerology...in tbb's day Women needed to change [ID] & many still do!
Can share a heartfelt keepsake that grants a teenage girl a bright future without guilt by association.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/05/08/sussan-ley-liberal-leadership-numer...
Do we need to expose why Susan became SuSSan #1 [L] Advocate for Women's Bodily Rights.
Pretty sure us blokes don't need to know about teenage girls dabbling in numerology ... Huh!
4 March 2024 https://www.swellnet.com/forums/politico/577285?page=7
Memo to Albo > During yer Honeymoon don't forget to toss yer Bouquet to yer Deputy Bridesmaid!
These Gromz know the Price of Love just keeps adding up & will eat ya alive!
Translation :
Tsunami smashes Glass Ceiling thru the Floor of Parliament with bridges burning...
Can we bring that up on the Big Screen tbb...sure can do > but comes with a warning...won't be pretty!
Advise you big tough blokes to grab hold of some lil' woman's Apron Strings come the end of the world.
velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
So it seems both high socio and low socio economic groups tend to vote against their interests???
southernraw wrote:What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this should be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??
I think you need read my post again and the discussion had it wasn't just random hate directed at muslims but a much broader serious conversation, one that started from Australia policy on immigration the effects of numbers but also effects of religious ideology on a society and the changes and yes risk that come with that.
Some suggested that all religions are equal in risk etc, i ignored the comment at first, but then Sypkan posted a related link that was quite good.
Which lead to further discussion, one that is not about hating on muslims but talking about the real risk associated with Islamic immigration and in particular the issues being seen in Europe right now that is in many ways is greatly shaping their politics with true right wing anti immigration parties even getting in, in some countries (and far right reform party last week seeing big wins in UK local election)
BTW. Ironically last night i saw a related story that i totally missed from the last few days that further proves my point.
"Eight arrested in two separate anti-terror operations"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2wqy5ejdjo
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgp2pg3njko
Im kind of shocked to read
"Last year MI5 said it had responded to 20 Iran-backed plots since January 2022."
Anyway im not going to go on about this and will just leave it there, bit of lay day yesterday but got shit to do today and in good spirits after the Pies win :D
Yesterday we saw another vitriolic defence of genocide while accusing others of being uneducated.
Whilst continuing to stereotype one religion and ignoring the main drivers of animosity towards the US and its allies.
It’s a beautiful thing that education thing Indo………
But you keep believing the lies. And repeating them as fact.
velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.
flollo wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.
I've heard it called the "post-material" vote.
This week's Minefield podcast is worthwhile as always, excellent guest who is an (unbiased) former advisor to Labor prime ministers Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.
Topics touched on -
-The cautiousness of the Australian electorate
-Conflict fatigue
-The Trump influence
-The Voice
-How the LNP took their eye off the ball wrt addressing the cost of living issue
-LNP backflips and half-baked policies
https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/theminefield/australia-labor-wins...
AndyM wrote:flollo wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.
I've heard it called the "post-material" vote.
Maslow hierarchy...
I like it.
I expect we’d say the extremely comfortable inner-city voters are at the top of the pyramid at the level of self-actualisation and addressing spiritual needs then.
AndyM wrote:flollo wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.
I've heard it called the "post-material" vote.
Maybe check the ratio of renters vs property owners in said areas. Many inner urban areas have a high density of rentals, often with more transient and younger demographics. Not all affluent high-income earners. That macro business article is full of the usual guff they spout about "inner city elites".
AndyM wrote:I like it.
I expect we’d say the extremely comfortable inner-city voters are at the top of the pyramid at the level of self-actualisation and addressing spiritual needs then.
I guess if you have no/ minimal financial worries, you can start to think bigger picture, environment, social justice etc.
Things that you probably don't think too much about if struggling to pay bills, get kids to school, stressing at work etc.
Stating the obvious I guess.
Edit: Re blackers comment, yeah wealthy and the young, both can be idealistic.
Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
inner city...higher proportion of university educated affluent and younger people...universities infusing all courses with progressive ideology...Greens well out there on the far left ideological fringe of culture wars and identity politics...high proportion of Greens voters in inner cities...no pattern here at all...
#wokemindvirus
GuySmiley wrote:Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
Wow, she's so transparent, just in it for all she can get.
soggydog wrote:Whilst continuing to stereotype one religion and ignoring the main drivers of animosity towards the US and its allies.
It’s a beautiful thing that education thing Indo………
But you keep believing the lies. And repeating them as fact.
I normally just ignore your post and this isnt a topic i wanted to continue with, but this one is hard to let slip by, because it shows how uneducated you are on this topic.
If Islamic attack's are something the USA or West bring on themselves, then why is it that every other country in the world with an Islamic population has exactly the same issue's?
The majority of attacks or terrorist attacks dont even happen in the West or even Russia (who see's more attacks than USA)
https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-worl...
GuySmiley wrote:Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
Ha ha i never thought id see Guy post Dailymail link's
You must be getting desperate to find source's to spread your hate.
This story really should just stay on social media, it wouldn't even make the Women's weekly
"Politician gets abuse yelled at that them, by some random in public"
Welcome to the life of a politician...
gs-co wrote:inner city...higher proportion of university educated affluent and younger people...universities infusing all courses with progressive ideology...Greens well out there on the far left ideological fringe of culture wars and identity politics...high proportion of Greens voters in inner cities...no pattern here at all...
Can you provide a specific example of university course content that is infused with far left progressive ideology?
^ haha, edumacation all round
But wait, there’s more…
International humanitarian law:
“ What are the laws of war?
International humanitarian law (IHL) is a set of international laws that set out what can and cannot be done during an armed conflict.
The main purpose of IHL rules is to maintain some humanity in armed conflicts, saving lives and reducing suffering. To do that, IHL regulates how wars are fought, balancing two aspects: to weaken the enemy and to limit the suffering.
The rules of war are universal. The Geneva Conventions (the core element of IHL) have been ratified by 196 countries. Very few international treaties have this level of support.
Everyone fighting a war needs to respect IHL, both governmental forces and non-state armed groups.
There are consequences if the rules of war are broken. War crimes are documented and investigated by States and international courts. Individuals can be prosecuted for war crimes. “
Hmmmmm
&
indo-dreaming wrote:soggydog wrote:Whilst continuing to stereotype one religion and ignoring the main drivers of animosity towards the US and its allies.
It’s a beautiful thing that education thing Indo………
But you keep believing the lies. And repeating them as fact.
I normally just ignore your post and this isnt a topic i wanted to continue with, but this one is hard to let slip by, because it shows how uneducated you are on this topic.
If Islamic attack's are something the USA or West bring on themselves, then why is it that every other country in the world with an Islamic population has exactly the same issue's?
The majority of attacks or terrorist attacks dont even happen in the West or even Russia (who see's more attacks than USA)
https://www.fondapol.org/en/study/islamist-terrorist-attacks-in-the-worl...
Well riddle me this Einstein, if 97% of Islamic terrorism is conducted in Muslim nations how come a little genocide apologist from Phillip Island, which probably doesn’t even have an aboriginal resident is so fucking scared of Muslims as a whole. Because you’re a bigot. That’s why. And a narrow mind reveals the truly uneducated.
overthefalls wrote:Can you provide a specific example of university course content that is infused with far left progressive ideology?
it's dripping through the rafters so they can't help but breath it in and become infected
#wokemindvirus
it's easy, and Fliplid is right - it's everywhere. Just one example from my personal experience, and it's just the tip of the iceberg, is I lectured in quant finance last year and was required to incorporate, among other things, indigenous traditional knowledge, cultural sensitivities and "ways of knowing" into it. This kind of thing is happening across all universities and all courses. If anyone can explain to me how to incorporate for instance this indigenous stuff into mathematics courses then please enlighten me - even though I have a PhD in pure mathematics it appears that I'm still too stupid to work out how...
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
Ha ha i never thought id see Guy post Dailymail link's
You must be getting desperate to find source's to spread your hate.
This story really should just stay on social media, it wouldn't even make the Women's weekly
"Politician gets abuse yelled at that them, by some random in public"
Welcome to the life of a politician...
But surely you’d think it’s the way you respond to it that’s telling?
andy-mac wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
So it seems both high socio and low socio economic groups tend to vote against their interests???
Yep it's fascinating and I'll go into it further in a moment. For the $200K bit, the article mentioned electorates where 20% of people were taking home more than 4K a week, so I just did 4 x 52 for the quip.
OK - let's delve into the higher earning electorates. So it isn't just green - the polling booth charts in that article see quite a lot of grey in Sydney's northern beaches, and some grey in other areas. Grey is teals basically.
I'd like to posit that the electorate has split on income lines. If you are a high earner and live inner urban and have conservative/libertarian swing, you vote teal. If you are a high earner and live inner urban and have left leaning redistributive tendencies, you vote green.
If you are out in the suburbs/Xurbs/inner regional meth and bogan belt as I am; if you have those conservative/libertarian tendencies you vote Lib, if you have the left leaning redistributive tendencies you vote ALP. Or, you could just be completely swamped by everything going on there like the mad crush of people, rising prices and you just vote for who offers the most gimmies.
What this infers - we're never going to get the split like in the US where the cities are fully blue and the entire countryside is red. This is because in both our city/countryside, there is a left/right choice, varying in how much/how little money is an issue.
adam12 wrote:A UBI of $200K a year? To paraphrase the late George Best, I'd spend $100K of it on booze and women and the other half I'd just blow.
could you claim any as entertainment expenses?
overthefalls wrote:gs-co wrote:inner city...higher proportion of university educated affluent and younger people...universities infusing all courses with progressive ideology...Greens well out there on the far left ideological fringe of culture wars and identity politics...high proportion of Greens voters in inner cities...no pattern here at all...
Can you provide a specific example of university course content that is infused with far left progressive ideology?
My son got 'the colonialism of waste management' in one of his biomed courses. Does that qualify?
@VJ, that was a really good movie, 'Margin Call'.
AndyM wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
Ha ha i never thought id see Guy post Dailymail link's
You must be getting desperate to find source's to spread your hate.
This story really should just stay on social media, it wouldn't even make the Women's weekly
"Politician gets abuse yelled at that them, by some random in public"
Welcome to the life of a politician...
But surely you’d think it’s the way you respond to it that’s telling?
It’s being reported everywhere @noinfo, if you had watched it you’d would have heard Price’s antagonist yell out words to the effect “you may be a senator but you don’t represent us and you’re not welcome everywhere you go”
Yep, that’s it in a nutshell
gs-co wrote:it's easy, and Fliplid is right - it's everywhere. Just one example from my personal experience, and it's just the tip of the iceberg, is I lectured in quant finance last year and was required to incorporate, among other things, indigenous traditional knowledge, cultural sensitivities and "ways of knowing" into it. This kind of thing is happening across all universities and all courses. If anyone can explain to me how to incorporate for instance this indigenous stuff into mathematics courses then please enlighten me - even though I have a PhD in pure mathematics it appears that I'm still too stupid to work out how...
So why does this upset you so much @gsco? Why not embrace it? You might learn something and be able to spread something positive, since this is their country after all isn't it? Why the combative attitude towards something that should be seen as progressive and positive??
velocityjohnno wrote:andy-mac wrote:velocityjohnno wrote:Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...
It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...
So it seems both high socio and low socio economic groups tend to vote against their interests???
Yep it's fascinating and I'll go into it further in a moment. For the $200K bit, the article mentioned electorates where 20% of people were taking home more than 4K a week, so I just did 4 x 52 for the quip.
OK - let's delve into the higher earning electorates. So it isn't just green - the polling booth charts in that article see quite a lot of grey in Sydney's northern beaches, and some grey in other areas. Grey is teals basically.
I'd like to posit that the electorate has split on income lines. If you are a high earner and live inner urban and have conservative/libertarian swing, you vote teal. If you are a high earner and live inner urban and have left leaning redistributive tendencies, you vote green.
If you are out in the suburbs/Xurbs/inner regional meth and bogan belt as I am; if you have those conservative/libertarian tendencies you vote Lib, if you have the left leaning redistributive tendencies you vote ALP. Or, you could just be completely swamped by everything going on there like the mad crush of people, rising prices and you just vote for who offers the most gimmies.
What this infers - we're never going to get the split like in the US where the cities are fully blue and the entire countryside is red. This is because in both our city/countryside, there is a left/right choice, varying in how much/how little money is an issue.
Reckon that analysis could be spot on VJ...
Whilst "lefty" maths courses and Islamic fundamentalism are problematic to some, create paranoia in some too, I've yet to read many posts here about, say, domestic violence, or issues related to the disabled, or the rising homelessness and inequality in modern Australia, inadequate Aged Care, stuff like that.
Just the same old scratched records stuck on the same old riffs. same old grievances.
Self indulgent waffle.
Nonsense, mostly.
Boring, repetitive and played out. Like "woke".
".In the 12 months leading up to May 9, 2025, there were no reported deaths in Australia specifically attributed to Islamic terrorism. While there have been past incidents of terrorism in Australia, Wikipedia states that no incidents of terrorism resulted in deaths in 2021 or 2019, and only one incident resulted in two deaths in 2020. In 2018, there were two incidents of terrorism, resulting in one death. Additionally, a study published in 2021 reported that a total of eleven fatalities were recorded in nine incidents over a decade, but it doesn't specify the last 12 months."
"In Australia, an average of one woman is killed by an intimate partner every nine days, and one man is killed every month. In the 10 years from mid-2002 to mid-2012, 488 women were killed by an intimate partner. Between 2000 and 2022, 331 women were killed in domestic violence contexts in NSW. In 2022-23, there were 46 female domestic homicide victims.
A total of 242 domestic abuse related deaths were recorded between April 2022 to March 2023, including: 93 suspected victim suicide following domestic abuse (SVSDA) 80 intimate partner homicides (IPH) 31 adult family homicides (AFH)13 Mar 2024"
"On any given night, 122,494 people in Australia are experiencing homelessness (ABS Census 2021). One in seven people experiencing homelessness are children under 12 (ABS Census 2021). 23 per cent of people experiencing homelessness (almost one in 4) are children and young people between 12 and 24 (ABS Census 2021).
Last year, 43,226 young Australians aged under 25 presented alone for homelessness support. The scale of the issue is also reflected in the latest Census results, which revealed that children and young people aged 12–24 make up almost one-quarter of the reported homeless population."
Those numbers are horrific @adam12 :(
GuySmiley wrote:AndyM wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
Ha ha i never thought id see Guy post Dailymail link's
You must be getting desperate to find source's to spread your hate.
This story really should just stay on social media, it wouldn't even make the Women's weekly
"Politician gets abuse yelled at that them, by some random in public"
Welcome to the life of a politician...
But surely you’d think it’s the way you respond to it that’s telling?
It’s being reported everywhere @noinfo, if you had watched it you’d would have heard Price’s antagonist yell out words to the effect “you may be a senator but you don’t represent us and you’re not welcome everywhere you go”
Yep, that’s it in a nutshell
Keep hating loser, it's what you do best.
Meanwhile the people you hate actually achieve thing's in life.
Labor are now at 91 seats.
Jordan’s’ clip today is to the point.
edit. at 93 seats now
https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseDefault-31496.htm
indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:AndyM wrote:indo-dreaming wrote:GuySmiley wrote:Ooops, Jacinta Price and the art of diplomacy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14693831/amp/Liberal-leadership...
https://www.watoday.com.au/politics/jacinta-price-yelled-at-in-hotel-by-...
Ha ha i never thought id see Guy post Dailymail link's
You must be getting desperate to find source's to spread your hate.
This story really should just stay on social media, it wouldn't even make the Women's weekly
"Politician gets abuse yelled at that them, by some random in public"
Welcome to the life of a politician...
But surely you’d think it’s the way you respond to it that’s telling?
It’s being reported everywhere @noinfo, if you had watched it you’d would have heard Price’s antagonist yell out words to the effect “you may be a senator but you don’t represent us and you’re not welcome everywhere you go”
Yep, that’s it in a nutshell
Keep hating loser, it's what you do best.
Meanwhile the people you hate actually achieve thing's in life.
What has she achieved professor Genocide Gerbil. Do explain
andy-mac wrote:Reckon that analysis could be spot on VJ...
Thanks Andy, can I go further? I reckon there's an existential threat to the two major parties that fight for the suburbs.
You can sort of, sort of see it already. I think the Libs are at existential risk first, but perhaps it's both at once. The suburban/regional electorate is fickle, it doesn't like to be spat down upon, and it certainly doesn't like the last 20 years of policy, because most of the fallout has fallen on it. Drive past what used to be Pilkington glass or the Ford engine plant in Geelong, for example - Stu's excellent article linked the other day talks about this from the economists' perspective.
I digress - the suburban/regional electorate is very (wish I could do italics here), very vulnerable to nationalist parties - whether from the right or left doesn't matter, maybe a combination of both.
So we see since covid how hopeless the Vic Libs have been, and we saw in the first post-covid WA election an utter annihilation of the WA Libs. We've now seen federally a huge ALP victory on around a third of the vote... I was most watching One Nation, which increased from 4.9% of the vote to 6.2% of the vote, for any inkling of a nationalist pulse; it's there, and small for now. We're about one or two electoral cycles behind the suffering of working/middle class suburban/regional people in other Western nations...
Which brings me to today's exhibit. Hold your noses at the source of the link some of you, but just look at the chart two images from the top. While we were doing our federal election, something remarkable happened in the UK.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2025/05/02/reform-would-win-landsli...
The chart is a picture of the UK, and it's almost entirely teal (my eyes see teal, they say light blue, psychology eh?). The scale of this swing is absolutely massive. If the local council/mayoral elections were a national election today, the nationalist party would absolutely dismember both major parties. It's got some right to it (stop immigration), it's got some left to it (nationalise industry).
You will recall that Labour won the UK's most recent election with about 30% of the vote, but won a landslide. Subsequently, they acted in ways to piss off the working/middle class people: ending the pensioner's fuel allowance, locking up protesters incensed by a stabbing incident where children were killed, etc. The nationalist party, Reform, has skyrocketed from sub 10% support to the largest polled party, despite Trump and all his chaos.
I can see a decent nationalist party taking a hammer to the Libs and ALP, if a credible one was to present itself. Then it'd be on like Donkey Kong between a working class/lower middle class party and the high income parties - there's your class struggle. At last.
adam12 wrote:Whilst "lefty" maths courses and Islamic fundamentalism are problematic to some, create paranoia in some too, I've yet to read many posts here about, say, domestic violence, or issues related to the disabled, or the rising homelessness and inequality in modern Australia, inadequate Aged Care, stuff like that.
Just the same old scratched records stuck on the same old riffs. same old grievances.
Self indulgent waffle.
Nonsense, mostly.
Boring, repetitive and played out. Like "woke".".In the 12 months leading up to May 9, 2025, there were no reported deaths in Australia specifically attributed to Islamic terrorism. While there have been past incidents of terrorism in Australia, Wikipedia states that no incidents of terrorism resulted in deaths in 2021 or 2019, and only one incident resulted in two deaths in 2020. In 2018, there were two incidents of terrorism, resulting in one death. Additionally, a study published in 2021 reported that a total of eleven fatalities were recorded in nine incidents over a decade, but it doesn't specify the last 12 months."
"In Australia, an average of one woman is killed by an intimate partner every nine days, and one man is killed every month. In the 10 years from mid-2002 to mid-2012, 488 women were killed by an intimate partner. Between 2000 and 2022, 331 women were killed in domestic violence contexts in NSW. In 2022-23, there were 46 female domestic homicide victims.
A total of 242 domestic abuse related deaths were recorded between April 2022 to March 2023, including: 93 suspected victim suicide following domestic abuse (SVSDA) 80 intimate partner homicides (IPH) 31 adult family homicides (AFH)13 Mar 2024""On any given night, 122,494 people in Australia are experiencing homelessness (ABS Census 2021). One in seven people experiencing homelessness are children under 12 (ABS Census 2021). 23 per cent of people experiencing homelessness (almost one in 4) are children and young people between 12 and 24 (ABS Census 2021).
Last year, 43,226 young Australians aged under 25 presented alone for homelessness support. The scale of the issue is also reflected in the latest Census results, which revealed that children and young people aged 12–24 make up almost one-quarter of the reported homeless population."
Great post Adam.
Sorry VJ, your link is behind a paywall/data scrape. Is your second graphic a result of a survey or extrapolation of the Runcorn result?
Wanna share this Vid...struck me just how mortified Albo is by his Chix Takeover...
[4:10] Majority of 57% Women & we're still counting...of Course...
All cheer & Applaud but not Albo > he's not happy...his face turns Glum > Looks real concerned...
It's like as if he fucked up...or lost his power base > he looks pissed off...
First time in whole campaign he exhibits his cranky face...so what the fuck is happening here!
Luv to get one of them Body Movement Readers in on this...
tbb can only think > Chix are gunning for Deputy & put him on notice!
Also looks to me & most husbands > That his girlfriend is holdin' out until he makes good!
He sucks up a big one > But I also see people of all different shit diverse....Blah Blah Blah...
Tries to argue that this diversity is the bigger picture > Main Game > Not you pack of bitches!
He is real deflated & looks like death warmed up...only his dire Phone Ringing > (Jokes) lift his spirits...
[21:00] Again when he talks about exceeding expectation > he goes into retreat...Like I fucked up!
Please if any can share why we see 25 minutes of Glum Albo misery...please do share!
Man this guy should be floating on a cloud but he looks like he's being stabbed by 57% Chix Knives!
Is it sheer exhaustion or are all the chix in his world serving him notice > Waiting Albo! Your move!
Seriously...tbb admires Albo but this is real hard to watch...not a celebration at all...he's depressed!
It's like he just lost the Voice all over again...
This Guy was 100x brighter everyday during the campaign & more glum everyday till today...It's sad!
Also big news tbb earlier shared & flies under the Radar...
Just coz Albo is racing new Crew...All media actually selling he's getting on with running Parliament!
Like some working class Commie Hero...
Pause! Joke is that the complete opposite is true & none have any idea,,,
tbb will clue the crew in...a free tip...tbb already knows this but he spills the beans today!
But ya gotta gear down & Pause & take a good listen...a real good listen...to what he says...
Coz Albo is taking a Record Longest ever Honeymoon > Wedding > Honeymoon break...Shh!
Get Ready for this...
[23:35] Parliament will come back...errr...You Know Tentative Dates > End of July!
3rd May Election > tbb tried hard to lock in a date for Parliament's return...
It's up to Albo's fiance to when & if she'll set a Wedding date...
The chix all know this >
Reckon to lock in the Wedding Date the day after Albo elects a Female Deputy!
He'll be all smiles then...All say Aye!
Back Track to 14th Oct 2025
Albo's Disapproval peaks ramping to 53% > Popularity plummeting below 40%
Liberal 2pp Vote has risen above ALP > (No chance ALP can win election!)
Albo is out for the Count & buys a Dream beach Home for his girfreind & for him to dodge the media!
Q : Did Albo buy that Beach Home thinking he was gonna lose & retreat to Hill Top Hideaway.
Fortunes have turned for the Better > His Wedding Plans are on Hold again but for Chix reason...
25th April tbb shared this much...
Caretaker Mode Timeline + *Anomaly
2016 Dissolve 9 May > Writs 16 May (84 days) returns 8 Aug + 22 days (30 Aug 45th opens)
2019 Dissolve 11 April > Writs 11 April (78 days) returns 28 June + 4 days (2 July 46th opens)
2022 Dissolve 11 April > Writs 11 April (78 days) returns 28 June + 28 days (26 July 47th opens)
2025 Dissolve 28 March > Writs 31 March (*100 days) returns 9 July +(Do not Disturb Honeymooners)
https://www.gg.gov.au/sites/default/files/2025-03/20250328%20Documents%2...
Today! Albo just confirmed ya can check back at late July to see if Oz gets back to work...
Maybe a bit later...it's not my call...you all know that!
(Fark Me! None say a word...not one word from Whole Electorate & All dumarse media...like wot!)
Longest honeymoon in history...biggest Oz bludger of all time...
Wait until SkyBC Nazis track him on his Honeymoon ...Times Up Albo...
But Wait Up...just wait Up!
Or whenever Jode's decides...if you media can get Jodes to set a date > PM can get back to Work!
All you blokes know what's it's like...them ALP chix are doin' me fuckin' head in!
Albo may be #1 in all the Schools but Jodes refuses to book wedding until Albo picks his bridesmaid.
Alp Chix : "Clare is a good Choice for a Bridesmaid left on the Shelf."
Wedding can wait another 10 years ...isn't that right Albo!
https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/when-will-we-see-more-women-in-labors...
Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.
This is how Dutton wins:
https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...