Next Federal Election

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velocityjohnno started the topic in Monday, 22 Jan 2024 at 2:15pm

Might as well put this up in the politics subforum, to spare the front page. It's 18 months away or so, but here we go.

This is how Dutton wins:

https://www.afr.com/politics/enter-the-liberal-party-working-class-heroe...

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adam12 Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:36pm
velocityjohnno wrote:

Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...

It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...

A UBI of $200K a year? To paraphrase the late George Best, I'd spend $100K of it on booze and women and the other half I'd just blow.

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Confusion Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:44pm
southernraw wrote:

Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??

It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .

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AndyM Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:46pm
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I question her political temperament. She reminds me of Tony Abbott - effective in opposition when the goal is to attack and displace, but ineffective once any kind of leadership is required.

Yep she's an attack dog with a big nasty streak.
Very hard to imagine her having a cohesive team following her.

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southernraw Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:47pm
Confusion wrote:
southernraw wrote:

Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??

It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .

Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.

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soggydog Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:49pm

I hope she gets in. There’d be so many noses out of joint the Liberals would be cooked. Taylor-Price……….getting told exactly what to do by Gina and grifting hard.

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Confusion Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:55pm
southernraw wrote:
Confusion wrote:
southernraw wrote:

Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??

It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .

Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.

I agree, but it doesn’t worry me,
If people are like they are, they are like they are,
Not my responsibility.
Plus they don’t like the big yellow writing of Meidastouch ?!

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blackers Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:57pm

Cool I may even keep working if they offer me $200k. Will be happy to vote Green as well for that.

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southernraw Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 9:57pm
Confusion wrote:
southernraw wrote:
Confusion wrote:
southernraw wrote:

Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??

It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .

Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.

I agree, but it doesn’t worry me,
If people are like they are, they are like they are,
Not my responsibility.
Plus they don’t like the big yellow writing of Meidastouch ?!

hahahaha! Brilliant. And wise words. Cheers and keep it up.

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Confusion Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 10:08pm
southernraw wrote:
Confusion wrote:
southernraw wrote:
Confusion wrote:
southernraw wrote:

Fwiw, i have the utmost respect for Stu. Ultimately as a surfer, as an academic, as a spiritual being, as a family man and as a businessman. Huge respect, that for someone that i've never met, i have no apologies for my respect.
I don't think this is Stu though. No doubt my previous pope rant upset the applecart....we know who...and probably there's a need to step in and nip it in the bud.
I completely get it.
What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this shouldn’t be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??

It depends on your profile photo,
Objectively, subjective!
And obviously a lot more Catholics would surf than Muslims .

Jeffrey i reckon you get put in the dogbox by the SN gods way more than you deserve. Scratch my head often at why your posts are any different to anyone elses. I've never found a single one of your posts offensive or overindulgent....usually find them funny and on point.

I agree, but it doesn’t worry me,
If people are like they are, they are like they are,
Not my responsibility.
Plus they don’t like the big yellow writing of Meidastouch ?!

hahahaha! Brilliant. And wise words. Cheers and keep it up.

Thanks , thumb up emoji.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 8 May 2025 at 10:10pm

2025 Chix glass ceiling smashes thru the floor of the house...man overboard

Chix are coming thru > Mind the Gap Data Set
Male Primary Parents > 2017 (5%) > 2025 (17%) vs Women with Chronic Work Pain 80%
Boards 32% Degrees 36.9% Full Employ 39.6% Media 50% GPs 50% Olympians 56%
2022 Govt Women : LNP 20% Reps 38% ALP 47% Jobs 54.4% > Senate 57% > ALP Members 70%

1994 ALP Caucus = 14% Women
2002 ALP Sistas 35% of pre-selection seats
2015 ALP Sisterhood Quota > 2022 Election = 45% seats (Target)
2016 Sistahood
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/jun/15/women-stand-in-re...
2022 ALP Sistas exceeded their 45% target = 47% or 37/78 seats
(2025 Election) ALP Sista Seats (50% Target)

Basically or importantly > ALP Male 1/2 Leaders never envisaged or permitted a Chix Takeover!

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/apr/11/australia-federal...

29th April 2025 (tbb shared record drop in AEC 2025 Chix Canditates)
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/politico/577285?page=74

Q: Has this rise in violence against female Politicians impeded upon Women's Democratic Rights?
A: Yes!
tbb will salute the first electoral analyst to notice 2025 record 2.3% drop in female candidates!
That might not sound a lot but data screams that it is a major setback > Asleep at the wheel!

Epic Rise of Oz Women Candidates > Hits brick wall & back trax 3-4 years in real time...Oopsie!
2013 = 27.6% > 2016 = 31.8% > 2019 = 34.3% > 2022 = 39.9% > 2025 = 37.6% (1st Solid Drop!)
https://www.aec.gov.au/media/2025/04-12.htm

Indie Chix massive drop off as Major Parties quotas Increased Female Candidates.
ALP (2022/46% > 2025/56%) Above 2025 ALP Rep 50% Quota
LNP (2022/29% > 2025/32%)
tbb is sharing majority ALP Govt Employees / Senate stoked majority Women's House Rep candidates.
Important to establish this aim of Total Women's Control of Govt agenda was intended. (Not anomaly!)

2025 Despite a record first drop in Female candidates > Governing ALP were stoking extra Gurl power!
tbb's casual observation reads between the lines to forecast higher Women's Power in Parliament.
(Saying...)

*Important...this observation is at risk of being ignored should more chix be elected to power...got it!
tbb has no doubt more chix will be elected and ignore the Glass Ceiling floor is dropping away!

Here's what just happened....
2022 Peak Covid Indie / Teal Women candidates drowned out [L] ALP Rep Women
2025 Less Indie Women candidates allowed ALP to rise up & promote more Rep Chix!

5th May 2025 Record Breaking number of Women to enter Oz Parliament (Mostly ALP chix)
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-05/record-number-women-elected-austr...
https://www.news.com.au/national/federal-election/voting-and-results/48t...

6th May 2025 [L] Hampered by lack of Chix Power
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-06/liberal-party-yet-to-resolve-issu...

7th May 2025 Elected ALP Caucus = 57% Women's Agenda (This article reflects tbb's observations)
From (tbb earlier) ALP / Left faction Mandate Caucus > House > Senate = 3 years Woman's Agenda
Women quite rightly salute ALP 57% but likewise question ALP Chix leadership Void >
Calling for nothing short of Deputy PM scalp > They want it Now or Albo will lose his throne.
This means > Massive ALP Victory will cost them Expert MP's of Law / Defence / Industry / Science
Some bittersweet Victory Huh! Gotta dumb down ALP Agenda to pander to Chix Power Portfolios!
Of course Male Media are too stupid to notice > Not Chix Media > They want an ALP blood sacrifice!
https://womensagenda.com.au/latest/when-will-we-see-more-women-in-labors...

tbb's last comment alerts Constituents to Albo's biggest enemy his own Chix Army rising up!
Whereby [LNP] Need elect a Chick leader to undermine Albo's Power Base by stoking his Chix Power!
Ley & now Price is switching to [L] & gunning for Deputy > Forces Albo to bouquet a Bridesmaid!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-05-08/jacinta-nampijinpa-price-joins-li...

Albo knows this and wasted no time with Stacking Mates Agenda before 2025-28 Oz Chix Takeover!
8th May ALP Factions Choose Cab' Positions > Dumped selective Senior Jew/Muslim Ministers
9th May ALP 2022 MP's Caucus Vote is ceremonial as Albo can overrule
13th May New Ministry sworn in Canberra...all sorted > now on with the Wedding Plans...(Cough!)
[L] Also elect a new Leader in Canberra on same day...

tbb smirks at Yuppie Male Media getting us up to speed with hip Younger Set...
Crikey delve into SuSSan Numerology...in tbb's day Women needed to change [ID] & many still do!
Can share a heartfelt keepsake that grants a teenage girl a bright future without guilt by association.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2025/05/08/sussan-ley-liberal-leadership-numer...
Do we need to expose why Susan became SuSSan #1 [L] Advocate for Women's Bodily Rights.
Pretty sure us blokes don't need to know about teenage girls dabbling in numerology ... Huh!
4 March 2024 https://www.swellnet.com/forums/politico/577285?page=7

&t=2s

Memo to Albo > During yer Honeymoon don't forget to toss yer Bouquet to yer Deputy Bridesmaid!

These Gromz know the Price of Love just keeps adding up & will eat ya alive!

Translation :
Tsunami smashes Glass Ceiling thru the Floor of Parliament with bridges burning...
Can we bring that up on the Big Screen tbb...sure can do > but comes with a warning...won't be pretty!
Advise you big tough blokes to grab hold of some lil' woman's Apron Strings come the end of the world.

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andy-mac Friday, 9 May 2025 at 6:48am
velocityjohnno wrote:

Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...

It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...

So it seems both high socio and low socio economic groups tend to vote against their interests???

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indo-dreaming Friday, 9 May 2025 at 7:58am
southernraw wrote:

What i don't get, is the @Indodreaming vitriol against Muslims going completely unchecked.
It's no hard feelings. Just think this should be held in check too, and if it's not, i guess it's a free for all right??

I think you need read my post again and the discussion had it wasn't just random hate directed at muslims but a much broader serious conversation, one that started from Australia policy on immigration the effects of numbers but also effects of religious ideology on a society and the changes and yes risk that come with that.

Some suggested that all religions are equal in risk etc, i ignored the comment at first, but then Sypkan posted a related link that was quite good.

Which lead to further discussion, one that is not about hating on muslims but talking about the real risk associated with Islamic immigration and in particular the issues being seen in Europe right now that is in many ways is greatly shaping their politics with true right wing anti immigration parties even getting in, in some countries (and far right reform party last week seeing big wins in UK local election)

BTW. Ironically last night i saw a related story that i totally missed from the last few days that further proves my point.

"Eight arrested in two separate anti-terror operations"
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2wqy5ejdjo

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvgp2pg3njko

Im kind of shocked to read

"Last year MI5 said it had responded to 20 Iran-backed plots since January 2022."

Anyway im not going to go on about this and will just leave it there, bit of lay day yesterday but got shit to do today and in good spirits after the Pies win :D

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soggydog Friday, 9 May 2025 at 9:07am

Yesterday we saw another vitriolic defence of genocide while accusing others of being uneducated.
Whilst continuing to stereotype one religion and ignoring the main drivers of animosity towards the US and its allies.

It’s a beautiful thing that education thing Indo………

But you keep believing the lies. And repeating them as fact.

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flollo Friday, 9 May 2025 at 9:20am
velocityjohnno wrote:

Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...

It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...

What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.

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AndyM Friday, 9 May 2025 at 10:22am
flollo wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...

It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...

What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.

I've heard it called the "post-material" vote.

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AndyM Friday, 9 May 2025 at 10:29am

This week's Minefield podcast is worthwhile as always, excellent guest who is an (unbiased) former advisor to Labor prime ministers Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.
Topics touched on -

-The cautiousness of the Australian electorate
-Conflict fatigue
-The Trump influence
-The Voice
-How the LNP took their eye off the ball wrt addressing the cost of living issue
-LNP backflips and half-baked policies

https://www.abc.net.au/listen/programs/theminefield/australia-labor-wins...

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andy-mac Friday, 9 May 2025 at 10:51am
AndyM wrote:
flollo wrote:
velocityjohnno wrote:

Some election analysis here, check out the highest-primary-vote maps of our major urban areas:

https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2025/05/winning-the-suburbs-is-the-key-...

It seems the more wealthy and inner an area, the more likely to vote green. Check out how the surrounding suburbs become ALP and Libs battleground. So, if we give the entire country a UBI of $200K a year, we can have a Green federal government...

What an irony, those who scream 'affluence is killing the planet' get the most vote from affluent inner urban residents. Solution is obviously to get these affluent residents to pay for energy/transportation transition so we can all move on.

I've heard it called the "post-material" vote.

Maslow hierarchy...