Largest Surf Park in Southern Hemi One Step Closer To Reality
A proposed $100 million surf park in the Perth suburb of Jandakot is one step closer to pumping out waves, after the state's environmental watchdog ruled it did not require further assessment.
Despite concerns about endangered black cockatoo habitats on the site, located between an industrial area and the Kwinana Freeway, the Environmental Protection Authority (EPA) decided the vegetation was already too degraded.
The surf park would sit on 5.78 hectares of land and would require 5.26ha of native vegetation to be cleared, including 3.13ha of Banksia Woodlands, a state-listed priority ecological community.
Environmental consultants commissioned by the proponent, Aventuur, had found that ripping up Banksia trees, which can be a foraging habitat for Black Cockatoos, could put the threatened species at risk.
The company then referred the project for federal environmental assessment, which found last July it did not present a significant risk to Black Cockatoos and did not need assessment.
Aventuur also referred the surf park to the WA EPA, which examined the impacts on flora and fauna, inland waters, water quality from polluted discharge and noise.
During a public comment period, submissions overwhelmingly urged the EPA to assess the project. Out of 1096 submissions, only 150 pushed for no assessment.
No need for formal assessment: watchdog
After conducting its own investigations, the watchdog agreed with the minority.
"The EPA considers that the likely environmental effects of the proposal are not so significant as to warrant formal assessment," the EPA concluded.
"The vegetation has been impacted by historical clearing and ongoing degrading processes leading to large proportion of weeds and limited canopy connectivity.
"The vegetation is of low to moderate quality foraging habitat for Black Cockatoos."
The decision can still be appealed, and the Department of Water and Environmental Regulation will also assess a native vegetation clearing application.
Proponent to offset land clearing with nature reserve
Aventuur said it wanted its projects to "deliver net positive environmental outcomes" and it would buy 18 hectares of Banksia Woodland on the Swan Coastal Plain and donate it to the state as a nature reserve to offset its land clearing.
The facility is expected to include bars and restaurants, accommodation, function spaces and retail stores
The proposed surf park would have a large open water surfing lagoon, accommodation, bars and restaurants, a function centre, an events space, a skating area, and a health and wellness centre.
Aventuur promised the park's buildings would be five-star green rated and it would remove existing banksia trees during clearing and then replant them on site.
Aventuur is planning to build the wave park on a 5.8-hectare site on Prinsep Road in Jandakot
"In each aspect of our project, we aim to exceed the stringent requirements of the WA government to deliver a world-leading example of a sustainable, responsible surf park development," it said in a statement.
The project also needed development approval from the City of Cockburn to go ahead.
Construction would then start in late 2023 and it would open to wave hungry surfers in late 2025.
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That top image....ahhh...heaven!
Dance party/rave - then surf - then rave - then surf....then Id get one of those apartments overlooking the site, then spend my life between plugged into my VR headset in the Metaverse, then rave, uber eats, then chlorine waves, then metaverse, then rave, then uber eats, then chlorine waves.....
you'd never see me again.
Maybe taking the occasional pot shot at the last black cocky as it flies past with a dying banksia in its mouth.
hahaha.. so good.. hello future!!!! (insert depressed face)!!!!!
would of thought the steel mill next door was already a fairly obtrusive neighbour to the incumbents .
hahahaha
Like Melbourne, Perth ain't a bad option for one of the tubs. Better than the Sunny Coast location.
A comparatively small bit of land surrounded by a highway, major railway station, steel plant and industrial estate that's well within the existing Perth urban area is hardly prime cockatoo habitat. I can see why they didn't bother to assess it further.
Its better here than sticking it out further east of Perth and extending the urban sprawl.
It's written as though Aventuur somehow got away with something here.
There isn't by default a strong correlation between the volume of submissions and their quality. A mobilised and/or well funded campaign pushing poorly founded objections should still fail.
Excellent opportunity for the developers to not only revegetate, but also provide man made nesting sites.
Provide the food, provide the safety,they will come.
What could be better, chillin after a surf
Listening to the chatter of the Carnaby.
From "The West Australian" today
"Located on Prinsep Road, the Perth Surf Park is expected to create more than 260 jobs during construction, welcome over 1,000,000 visitors annually, and contribute more than $250m to the WA economy during its operating life."
That's approximately 2740 people/day every day of the year attending, staying, raving, eating, drinking, shagging and maybe some surfing
Im all for any thoughtful development carefully implemented that makes the planet better for our kids & future generations.... however these type of developments are rarer than the endangered Carnaby cockatoos.
Ask yourselves....who benefits from this or other Devt projects?
Cockburn Central Location Map (no kidding)
https://goo.gl/maps/2B11N7oqSN5Z8MrR7
I can understand the logic of putting this development near an major airport and freeway at Cockburn & going through the Govt assessment process.
You dont want them Carnaby cockatoos being sucked to the jet engines anyway.
Its just some profiteering pirate factoids are being endlessly reproduce across this Great Southern Land
( that has evolved over 600 Million years or .....miraculously manifested by mythical angels in 6k God yrs) &
that is sadly now mostly logged and /or cleared of bush & grazed by livestock in 200 years of degradation....by Fast:bucks Pty Ltd
This is a WA Govt leased site & adjacent "bushland reserve" land may be sold in the future & cleared of most native vegetation.
Can this lease arrangement can be onsold to other investors...?
Is there any mention in the Environmental Assessment of future clearing of the last remnant of bushland in any future expansion to the development?
I couldnt find the assessment link on their Facebook page...
I found this promo pitcharoony...Facebook Quotes below
According the Aventuur Facebook page sourced today 7/3/23
https://www.facebook.com/aventuurco/
"Aventuur is with Department of Planning, Lands and Heritage and 5 others....
20 June 2022 ·
Today we celebrated the signing of our long-term ground lease for the Perth Surf Park with the Western Australian Government, City of Cockburn and Surfing WA. Opening in Summer 2024/25, the Perth Surf Park will be Western Australia's first, and is set to become a major sporting, tourism and entertainment destination in Cockburn. "
“The interesting thing about this asset class is the (surfing) lagoon itself is fantastic…it has got a great margin profile of 40-50 percent EBITDA, but it’s really all about its destinational value. It’s a massive attractor…(that) elevates all the surrounding property around the park, so having it as a centre piece to a larger integrated property development makes a whole lot of sense.”
"Aventuur promised the park's buildings would be five-star green rated and it would remove existing banksia trees during clearing and then replant them on site."
(BTW: It takes 10 years for Banskia's to flower & reproduce in undisturbed areas of NSW; how long in disturbed salty soil sites in dry WA; any sandminer may know ?)
So, a 10 year investment bond could be required to help the Carnaby Cocktoo eat & sleep or it maybe greenwash marketing & free PR lunches are quicker & cheaper?
"The surf park would sit on 5.78 hectares of land and would require 5.26ha of native vegetation to be cleared, including 3.13ha of Banksia Woodlands, a state-listed priority ecological community."
Some Eco maths:
5.26ha veg / 5.78ha site footprint = 91% clearing of 'degraded vegetation'
3.13ha Ecologically endangered Plant community (EEC) / 5.78ha site = 54% EEC to be cleared
"A mobilised and/or well funded campaign " Reverse? spin 101
Good maths tbb. You always do the research. The amount of energy and water use will be massive. Social and financial dividends for all companies-and governments-I’m pretty sure will see the project through. Don’t mind Trigg clouseouts
Any idea of which technology?
Urbnsurf.
That's a lot of car parking
" Ex-CEO of NSW EPA on board of polluting waste giant Bingo"
https://www.wendybacon.com/2021/ex-nsw-epa-head-of-board-of-bingo-ordere...
Perth would be the best city in oz to have a wave park.
They surf 2’ close outs all year packed with cocks that would snake their own mother to get on the end of one.
Don’t tell ‘em there may be waves south or even north.
We don’t want em.
They’re a plague .
Give them a 2’ peak and a Big Mac they’ll plant palm trees instead of banksias ,drink emu lager instead of Bintang .
Dodgey Macgowan public transport instead of sterdy Kuta scootas
Warm enough 2 months of the year
Cold enough 10 months so Jetstar don’t care.
And all on a dodgey bit of land that will be zoned for a truck dispatch yard with no trees or water or chicks in bikinis if the pool doesn’t go ahead.
Black cockatoos shoulda left when Macgowan won his first election
YEP !!!
Well said Vegies.
Call me a surf snob, but I fully support keeping the crowds in the capital cities, fully chlorinated, carb loaded and in their "Happy Place"
For me, surfing is all about being in the ocean and not really knowing what you will get until you get there.
Perth would be the best city in oz to have a wave park. AGREE
Has anyone done a full study on the land to see how valuable it might be for the endangered Black Cockatoos . How many of this endangered birds use this last remnant of original vegetation as a refuge or permanent source of food . Why cant they find an old cleared sheep paddock further out of Perth to build this Surf Palace . If its going to be that good people will come from miles around believe me . Destroying nature to recreate nature in the name of the almighty dollar is sacrilege. Cant believe how the government departments that are supposed to protect the environment are doing the very opposite of what they were created for . WHAT A JOKE .
''The company then referred the project for federal environmental assessment, which found last July it did not present a significant risk to Black Cockatoos and did not need assessment. ''
It would appear in this instance the proponent and the consultant have done the right thing and sent the proposal for assessment at the state and commonwealth level though the significant residual impact guidelines can be wishy washy at best. The vegetation would appear to be heavily degraded and suffers from high levels of disturbance. Given that habitat mapping is usually done from aerial photography without any ground-truthing until a DA is lodged it appears to be a decent outcome.
well said elrayoex ,ist always about the $$
Since the EPA survey found it to not be a significant risk to the Black Cockatoos , it should go ahead.
These birds easily travel large distances every day , so its not like they are living on that piece of land only.
Don't forget that one of Urbsurf's key marketing points is saving surfers from "marine hazards" AKA willfully teaching children that sharks aren't a part of the environment you play in.
I can't wait to see the private number plates for the 1st 100 surfers who "took on the tub" - wow - so much prestige.
Missed opportunity not putting it next to Kwinana motorplex. Accommodation could of had either drag strip or pool views. Could of had a cage fighting area for surfie / bogan interactions.
And scored some meth off the bikies
Will they face it in the right direction?
They faced the Scarborough pool the wrong way…..
Perth surfers better move within 15mins of it to be ready for “climate” lockdowns.
It doesn't matter if it is degraded habitat, it could easily be repaired. Once it is gone, that possibility is gone forever. The concept of buying existing habitat as an offset is a complete joke. That habitat is not new habitat, so there is a net loss of habitat. Its called a death by a thousand cuts.
Wave pools stink! All that energy that is used to power them when we have a natural source of wave energy just nearby.
Just a guess but you have never been to Perth
Will this park be busy. Heck yes
says a lot about the wave quality in Perth?
i wonder if they are going to put as many modules in (56) as the one in soel ,south korea
Ha ha it’s a light industrial waste land already. The pool will only improve it. Pretty good spot for it I reckon.
Sure is. That whole area (Cockburn Central) was bush just ten or so years ago but they’ve managed to build first a massive shopping centre followed by numerous apartment blocks and light industry and commercial businesses. Didn’t here about the cockatoos then-I think they bailed a while ago. Agree with Sam it’s about as good a spot you could pick for a wave tub. Also the groundwater table is roughly 15 metres below ground level and saline in some areas so I wonder where the water is coming from? That and evaporation-it get’s hot in summer-should be the biggest environmental concerns.
Sure is. That whole area (Cockburn Central) was bush just ten or so years ago but they’ve managed to build first a massive shopping centre followed by numerous apartment blocks and light industry and commercial businesses. Didn’t here about the cockatoos then-I think they bailed a while ago. Agree with Sam it’s about as good a spot you could pick for a wave tub. Also the groundwater table is roughly 15 metres below ground level and saline in some areas so I wonder where the water is coming from? That and evaporation-it get’s hot in summer-should be the biggest environmental concerns.
Just checked and for scheme water it’s roughly a third from desalination plants and groundwater each with the rest from dams. There’s no way they should be able to directly access groundwater.
Anyone following the Politics or wishes for the detail of Site Clearing...
swellnet / tbb ran an ongoing site review including Local Community Enviro response.
https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2022/06/21/perth-get-wav...
Here'a a Quick catch-up!
Habitat Loss : 1H Wetland + 3H Banksia Woodland
Endangered Species : Carnabys / Red Tailed Black Cockatoos / Quendas / Rainbow Bee Eater
29 Nov 2022 : "Cockburn Shire supported Saving this Wildlife Corridor!"
29 Nov : Consultants recommend new Road Alignment to minimize habitat damage!
1 Dec Cate Tauss: " 55% of Block has been "Illegally Pre-Cleared before EPA visit"
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=5654535047928648&set=p.565453504...
13 Dec 2022 Minister : "Pleased to see Proposal advance to next Stage!"
March EPA : The Vegetation has been impacted by Historical Clearing & ongoing degrading processes!
EPA : "Vegetation was already too Degraded!"
Too Bad so Sad.
Notes:
Airports naturally restrict development Height.
Inter Urban Train Stations maximize 12 story City Centres > 50 Stories Cbd.
Most State Govts would demand Max 10 Story Cockburn Central Population of 10,000.
Simply as Environmental prerequisite to Max Public Transit & Remove cars off roads!
tbb's local station is vacant just like here but approved as a city of 18,000 Rail Commuters!
1,000's of Potential Employee Units feed Transit System > Perth > Airport
Hard to fathom how any think an interurban Station Wavepool removes maximum Cars off Roads.
Kinda think it's camping on a potential 2,000 daily commuters Train Seats!
Let Transperth sort it out...will they Welcome Surfers to Cockburn Central?
Locals would first need Buses to connect to Perth > Cockburn Line.
Perth Buses carry 1.2m Boogies > Only Perth < > Scarborough Bus carries 2m Boards!
All Transperth Trains including Airport now carry surfboards > 2m max!
Transperth > Cockburn Train Line to Wave Pool Station (Carries Surfboards > 2m max)
Tip! (No Boards) in max height thru Carriage Aisles > Side seats/Storage max out at 2m Bulkheads
https://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/using-transperth/taking-items-on-board
So it's Pretty much Ok for Yuppie Gromz that can fork out $90 min to surf the Point.
For all the Interstate Gromz & Midgets...read on...
New Airport Train > (Perth Central connect) > Cockburn Wave Pool = 1hr Journey!
https://www.transperth.wa.gov.au/Journey-Planner/Results?from=Perth%20Ai...
That's how the Perth Wave Pool Rolls!
PS: Private Coaches from Airport South will carry Boards.
However will cost more & run less timetable options!
Possibly a Surf Safari Mini Bus may run Airport > Cockburn > Margs.
Similar to Bne > Goldie Airport > Byron (It can Work!)
Apparently the the Black Cockatoos were sent down to that rough bushland after causing a fair bit of trouble,
while the White Cokatoos are all nested up nicely in the parks in the Northern suburbs.
Fantastic news, finally a move in the right direction for a surfing sports facility for kids and families just like every other sport expects and receives a sporting complex which in the past never received one complaint. Great to see the usual protesters did not get to destroy a wonderful opportunity for the community to get access to waves at a capital city location where there are no waves for easily 8 months of the year, When it comes to cost interestingly I see no complaints over the costs associated with access to yacht clubs, golf clubs, gyms, ballet, rock climbing, scuba diving, fishing, motorsports etc, costs are only ever mentioned when a wave sports complex is mentioned. Looking forward to the community enjoying it.
Interesting angle - community enjoyment, little kids getting access etc etc.
But I just never get convinced - community? Little kids? Families? I'd be interested in the demographic of those that visit the other tubs. I'm not a demographer (insert other terms too like doctor, immunologist etc) but I'm going to take a punt at the clients NOT being struggling mortgage belters, not newly arrived immigrants, not community groups, not your average kid/family from the burbs.
This is the standard angle from developers and politicians (1mill visitors, 256,754,000 jobs etc etc etc etc etc etc ) but the cost of entry and specialty of the sport is a demographic and socio-economic berlin wall. Hope you're on the right side and dont try and cross it.
My two challenges are the total ecological cost in energy consumption and the second one is it supports this troubling human notion that we all have to have access to everything - some sort of human right to not miss out on things that maybe you done NEED access to. This notion drives more consumption....
Maybe we have to get used to the fact that if you live inland....surfing is not the best sport. If you live on the coast.....dont take up mountaineering. You live in Australia, dont take up second hand Japanese pottery collecting that requires a trip to Japan. If you live in Perth - get used to 2 foot close outs and just enjoy the fact the weather is freaking amazing as you sip your Emu lager at the Cott Sunday sesh....
Suggesting that we cant have something seems heretical these days. Like parents making sure that all the kids in pass the parcel get a price in each wrapping layer.....try old school pass the parcel at your next kids parts and see what happens! 6 year olds screaming that its unfair and storming out of the place.
I might be a little suspicious and cynical about the power of money but my bet is on the developers NOT really caring about community access to health and wellbeing opportunities....just a wild guess.
The Perth Flying Squadron Yacht Club just completed a substantial expansion into the Swan River and I did not hear one complaint, there was a massive protest against the Scarborough Beach foreshore area development and yet is has proved to be a substantial success story with families returning and ironically a massive swimming pool abutting the ocean that is incredibly popular yet costs either a membership or daily fee. People I have spoken to avoided Scarborough previously and have now returned, this is an example of social infrastructure development that the community builds to create a better social and community backdrop. I support the wave parks in high population areas to allow those who work long hours including FIFO access to the wonderful sport of surfing. There is a lot of irony that surfers jump onto planes spewing fumes all over the worlds oceans chasing waves (I recently went to to the Maldives, 6 plane trips and a diesel powered boat and 24/7 diesel generator for water and power) and yet there is opposition from some regarding a surfing sports complex that would reduce the use of fuels and time to gain access to the enjoyment of surfing. We mow down hundreds of acres of natural bushland so that those who enjoy golf can hit a small white ball into a hole, we build a billion dollar stadium on the river so that tens of thousands of people can watch someone kick a ball, the list goes on, I simply support access to waves in a city that has very little and yes I have surfed the wave park in Melbourne and thought it was great fun.
What is the cut-off for community enjoyment/ access or options for things to do? No flying for surf trips or mountaineering? Any driving for surf trips, how far?? Wavepools for all in-landers?? Or just footy ovals/skateparks???
Shouldn't the vision be as much as possible for as many as possible? What is people's beef with consumption?
Agree with pass the parcel though - I always only did a couple of prizes at the end. Kids seemed to handle it though.
Is that second paragraph serious or ironic? I'll assume it's ironic - but if not, try not to bring up your lunch when you google images/waste/cambodia....just for starters....or maybe scare the crap out of yourself closer to home....
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-12-27/where-does-all-australias-waste-g...
Futurists have a term for it: Cycle of desire & consumption.
We consume due to some existential hole in our lives and a sense of emptiness or chase for status (God damn that new iPhone 14 looks SO much better than my 13), this degrades the environment through both production and waste disposal, this leads to cultural decay and unrest - which fuels a loss of meaning, purpose and damage to our consciousness - which - BINGO! - leads us to fill that hole with buying more stuff. Problem solved.
Happy days!
I'd go for half ironic. Just not sure I want Bungan33 deciding what's good for us.
Your 'futurists' outline is a classic misanthropic view of humanity, but that sells right! Especially for a particular (guilt ridden) western middle class demographic!!
Not sure I'd be relying on futurists predictions given their general predictive capabilities (shithouse) - and business model (secular priesthood).
I'd agree waste is a problem, but that doesn't follow for 'consumption'.
Humans are a resourceful lot. Instead of thinking we are the problem, I'd suggest flipping and that for a mindset to an idea that no problem is too big for us to sort out (including wavepools for all!).
Yep, the greater ecological question is how much of the bio-physical realm are we prepared to sacrifice so every human want can be satisfied?
Do we build 30 wave pools across Inland Aus so every kid gets to surf?
Also agree that these pools aren't the same as soccer fields skateparks or kids going fishing- those activities are essentially free once you build the infrastructure.
With wave pools, it's the ongoing cost per wave which will eliminate that as a consideration for most.
Having said that- yeah Perth seems like a good place for one.
Those fields are going to require a mow every once in a while. And if in Perth over the hot summer, might want to retic them... it's dry, Macca.
People want the prize, without factoring in the costs to the whole community & ecology. These factors are what an environmental assessment is suppose to provide to the developer & impartial Govt Depts.
eg.
WA Fisheries research on the impact of opening the Swan River via dredging & breakwaters; found that it increased the salinity and decreased some species. Nutrient pollution & lower rainfall has increased algae & deoxygenation affects (kills) many fish species.
"Climate change is decreasing rainfall and increasing tidal heights and storm surge in the river system. This is impacting on the hydrodynamics of the river system."
https://www.dpaw.wa.gov.au/management/swan-canning-riverpark/171-about-t...
After the researcher clearly presented this above information at a community meeting in NSW, regarding breakwalls & impacts on the local lake system, at retired boaty said.... " When are we getting our Breakwall?"
Claim : " Largest Surf Park in the Southern Hemisphere "
Boa Vista = 15,500 sqm or 1.5 HA
Melbourne = 20,000 sqm or 2 HA
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WA (vs) Qld (Big Bash Final) Mankind's Biggest Puddle in Driest Continent
Perth Aventuur = 22,200 sqm or 2.2 HA
Surf Lakes = 36,000 sqm or 3.6 HA
No Contest > Winner is...
Last Play of the Final > Perth Scorcher's use last Referral for biggest whatever...
Waiting...minutes > Days > Crowd walks out > now months...& do we have a decision...(Maybe!)
Perth claim that we dodgy Qldurrz are sellin' a pup!
Massive claim that left our Qldurr Whiteshoes back peddling their Dirigibles!
tbb believes Perth just exposed that Surf Lakes are downsizing their Public Model? Huh!
Very clever play as Surf Lakes have already run their XL Demo > Why not the Mini Me model.
Qldurr admits that it makes good business sense to model the new Surf Lakes Urban Model
Mini Me Surf Puddles can better comply with Water Quality & 2.4m OHAS ...Tick! & Tick!
They can also sell more perimeter Real Estate to help pay for their own Down Size re-do.
Downsizing Surf Lakes to Surf Puddles affords the developers to squeeze in more Hi Rise!
So how big is this new Surf Lakes Downtown "Public Model"
Gromz Look Away Now!
Surf Puddles = 20,000 sqm or 2HA
https://wavepoolmag.com/new-surf-lakes-is-smaller-cheaper-faster/
Quote : Andy : "Our WA Pool will have same max modules as Largest WG South Korea!
But Perth's is gonna be 30m longer than Largest WG South Korea...(Huh! Why bother?)
Well now ya all know why...
Coz by extending Perth's pool it's set to claim Biggest Southern Title from reduced size Surf Lakes!
tbb has not read such but thinks our above Title screams the fact.
Reckon that Wave Garden knows us Qldurrz are gearing down & surrendering our Title! Cry! Cry!
Beastly Roary has sniffed out Dingo's VIP Grom Den & holds Thoroccy's head aloft!
Southern Sons now bow to their new Wave Pool God Roary.
Well Played WA...Big Bash Champions stepped up to bash us Qldurrz down to size.
Gotta luv that!
This seems like a great resource for Perth surfers. It'll have great shape, too!
When we first went to Perth and rented in Bull Creek, the suburb was being established. On that incredibly diverse Banksia woodland of the Swan coastal plain. I shit you not, one afternoon a dragonfly landed on our back window and the thing was over half a metre long, the thing was massive. Who knows how many species and niches are already gone there?
George Seddon's book "Sense of Place" is a true gem for this coastal plain.
For me, just one person, the measurement of surfing; so as to make financial gain from every wave is anti-theoretical to my ideal of "surfing the artform".
Having said that, I will try it and that experience might change my perspective.
The philosophical construct reminds me of going to the ment's for the 1st time many years ago and being told on the 1st day how much the "surf photographer package costs" at the end of the trip. I said something to the effect of "Look I don't want any photo's of myself surfing. I'd rather focus on how I feel riding waves, not what I look like. I don't care if the photographer or anyone else sees any wave I ride" (that did not go down well with anyone)
Moments are glorious, memories can fade & hard drives fail...
You could grab a photo of your favourite Ments wave and paste yourself in the slot... for fun
eg. https://pixlr.com/
This is a hypothetical suggestion only
I can't wait to see the private number plates for the 1st 100 surfers who "took on the tub" - wow - so much prestige.
Perth Surf Park Doc Drawer
Aventuur
https://www.aventuur.com/perth
WA Govt Handover Media Presentation
https://ne-np.facebook.com/wamnnews/videos/breakingperths-new-surfing-pa...
City of Cockburn Lease
https://www.cockburn.wa.gov.au/City-and-Council/Events-and-News/Media-Re...
City of Cockburn Application + Aventuur Surf Park Plans
https://comment.cockburn.wa.gov.au/dap22-005
EPA Referral + Determination
https://www.epa.wa.gov.au/proposals/perth-surf-park
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"Biggest Surf Park in Southern Hemisphere!"
Same news grab was run by media whole...
But then this jaw dropping figure was dropped from outta the blue!
"(1 million) Surf Park visitors / year"
https://www.theurbanlist.com/perth/a-list/new-wave-park-perth
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Wow! That's Double Oz biggest Water Parks > 8x Tulla Tub
tbb can help explain those numbers & how Aventuur can claim Biggest Everything Ever.
Motorway / Railway Precinct affords higher density + higher decibels!
Aventuur Rail Hub is geared up as an Entertainment Arena for Concerts & Festivals
Govt Stations can timetable 50,000 return Passengers / day for Sports-Gigs-Events.
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/gold-coast-600/fans-drivers-o...
Many American / Asian Wave Pools pull in 20-40,000 @ Beach Parties + 2,000 Film Nights
1 concert / month in o/s wave pools would meet 50% of claimed annual 1m Target!
So! How many can Largest Wave Pool in Southern Hemisphere do with it's own Rail Station?
Sounds feasible tbb..."One Problem! The site can't hold 40,000!"
In fact the Lawns only hold 3,000?
Ok! Great Question...
(Govt Handover) Aventuur boasted a longer WG Wave Pool as Surf Lakes gears down.
Sure! Biggest Southern Wave Pool bragging rights...only, that's not the main reason...Huh!
Take a closer look at Perth Wave Pool Plans... (A bit Closer...now see!) Wot! Exactly!
The waves cut out half Way...The larger Pool is not designed for stoking longer rides for Surfers.
A reduced 25% of Pool has surfable waves...75% is designed for shallow common wading access.
So why go to that expense of building largest Southern pool for shortest rides & largest wading area?
Many Perth swimmers equally love a wade or small wave bodysurf & are also fearful of Sharks.
A Rail Station Surf Lagoon with 75% of Surf / Slush devoted to Waders ticks all boxes.
Can fit 1,000's of waders in there alongside Boardriders on Shortened rides.
Plans detail Perth's waves as smaller & rides are presented shorter than Tulla Tub.
Unless all their Plans are shitty...only tbb is on record praising the detail of Perth's Plans!
VIP Lawns hold 3,000 then by site comparison the common wade area boasts 20,000 concert goers.
Why need so many waders?
It's designed for Maximum 1 metre Wading depth for Southern Hemisphere's Biggest Beach Parties...
Nowhere can sell & flush out grog faster than Southern Hemisphere's Biggest Beach Party!
Govt / Council up to the necks in filthy lucre! Everyone Drink & Wade...Everyone!
"Southern Hemisphere's Biggest Blue Loo!"
This is how all Worldly Beach Parties roll now...Councils permit these giant receptacles!
All recall 1969 Big Surf Wave Pool...10-15,000 all waist deep in rather not say! (Punk Festivals the Lot)
This is an oldschool entry example...Asia clock 40,000 Wave Pool Gigs easy! (All waist deep...well durr!)
https://www.activatedevents.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/04/Screen-Shot-2...
https://www.euronews.com/2020/08/18/wuhan-goes-wild-thousands-attend-poo...
Sure! Biggest Woteva with smallest 2m shortest shallowest shortboard rides is what they're selling!
All are free to check on that with Aventuur Plans supplied above!
3D Renders / Plans deliberately define & state a massive Dead Zone over larger half of the pool.
It can not be accidental...it is repeated verbatim in every sketch!
Answer this! Why is 50% of entire Site (Massive 75% Wade Area) Absent of Waves & Planned Use?
Just sayin'...reckon World's biggest somethin' fits in there perfectly well thank you! (re: 1m / yr Crowd!)
For better or worse, looks like it's won approval and will go ahead.
"WA’s $100m Surf Park Gets Green Light"
https://www.theurbandeveloper.com/articles/perth-surf-park-aventuur-appr...
I’ve never seen a wave pool nor understand how winds affect wave quality in a pool setup. I guess an “onshore” wind will not produce bump , but will cause the wave to roll rather than barrel. Am I right? The photo seems to indicate “offshore” relative to wave machine direction is SW to NW quadrant and everything else is side or “onshore” relative to the pool wave direction. I live further south where easterlies, often were strong, dominate the mornings and the sea breeze roughly southerly to southeast, often strong in summer rolls in about 11am.. Overall SE is the most predominant wind direction in lower WA. We only see SW to NW winds consistently in the colder months when there is swell generated by cold fronts.
i have never surfed the Tulla Tub but mates have said the same thing. the Tub faces Nw to NE which is not great. would have been better if was more in the western or southern quadrants. Did visit once when I had time to kill at the airport and was a strong southerly and didn't look that inviting
rt2 its not that hard to understand. just think if you were in the surf and the wind instantly turned onshore for 15 second would it effect it. NO. it would not look picture perfect YES. imagine it was blowing 30knts offshore at a wave pool...does it fk it yes . imagine it was blowing 30knts onshore at a wave pool does it fk it NO. beacuse there is no fetch. yes is wont look front cover magazine worthy @30knts onshore but there is no fetch so it effectivly does nothing to the wave.
Urbnsurf Expert wave 46 pistons > 16-18 secs by ride length 110-120m
https://support.urbnsurf.com/hc/en-us/articles/900000769666-What-is-the-...
20th June 2022 / Andy: "Perth 56 pistons > '18 sec' Rides are 30-40m longer = 150m long"
Important Anomaly : Max 2 sec or 12.6% seconds longer > Max 40m or 36.36 % longer!
Ya see! That don't add up in the slightest!
"Potential" for Beast Mode?
Visitors = 300,000 / yr Beach Club Entertainment Hub!
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-20/perth-to-get-largest-wave-park-in...
On this page...
tbb claims Plans show "Longer Pool but seemingly same length wave!
Also pointing out Mass 3x ramp in Visitor Numbers (June 2022 ~ 300,000/yr > March 2023 1m/yr)
Like wot the hell is happening here?
We have another more recent press release that kinda sorta shortens the wave length again...
20th March 2023 News Video interview with Andy...
( On WaveLength ) Andy : "Up to sorta 18 sec rides"
This Week Andy reverts to quoting standard Tulla length 16-18 sec rides for his Biggest ... ?
News : "1 million visitors/yr ...but they won't just be surfers!"
Andy : "We've got a huge amount of amenity around the outside edge of the Lagoon!"
"...events & that sort of thing!"
https://www.facebook.com/10NewsPer/videos/753965983063132/
Recapping News findings...reveals all these Bizarre Anomalies!
Southern Hemisphere's Largest Surf Park = (Nowhere does this mention any 'rides' are longer!)
56 Piston > Up to Sorta 18 sec rides = Same length as 46 Piston 16-18 sec rides
56 Piston 150m Long Rides finish in same time as 46 piston 110m rides
56 Piston Aventuur has the potential of Roary's 46 piston Beast
1m annual Visitors now fit in the exact same size Park plans for max 300,000 / yr Visitors.
None of Aventuur's self controlled media claims add up! Not in the slightest!
There is no excuse for this amateur hour...as Andy has skin in the game.
Begs the question on what Perth are being sold and getting are two different things!
Coz Aventuur are currently selling Perth a potentially as Beastly Urbnsurf pool.
If that's their aim, then Aventuur are doing an excellent job!
Just sayin...why bother with biggest whatever if Andy himself keeps talkin' it down!
Anomaly : It is possible to have both same surfboard ride time for 40m longer waves
Yes! Even with 46 or 56 pistons, coz with a Larger Pool it's possible.
Keep Boardriding zone similar to Urbnsurf but boardriders cut out at a 110m Floatline.
Now weakening wave/s continues for 40m longer into broader [L] Bodysurfing / Wading Zone.
This option best fits the equal ride time Wave Pool plans + ramps their visitor numbers!
By containing the hard / Boardriding zone the Wading area can then cram in max bodysurf crowd.
Not read this here or about Perth Pool...just know they'll need a Floatline for Wading Gig certification.
Reckon the Floatline may double for Surf/Gigs...get a good workout at that 1m depth line!
Most wave pools have & use Floatlines ...only new for Wavegarden / AWM Surf Pools.
20th March 2023
Ours is not to question why... but ausleisure just let slip an undercover freebie...
All Hail Roary! Superstoked...Crew send thanx for the open share...Yeww!
Dry Run Surf Session at Aventuur Dirt Bowl...
&t=116s{Warning} Pure Surf Stoke Classic!
20th March 2023 JDAP Metro Outer Joint Development Assessment Panel
Development Approval!
Subject to Further Approvals...
Construction commences Later in 2023 > Open late 2025
https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/perths-aventuur-surf-park-secures-dev...
That's what ya call dedication...already land swapping...
Andy & Family out shopping for 44 acres of Banksia Woodland on the Swan Coastal Plain...
swellnet are likewise stoked for Andy & Family & Perth Surfing Community
Well done crew & thanks for the Dry Run Surf Vid...gotta luv that! Yewww!
Ok! Celebration calls for a Bonus...
21st March 2023
Concrete Playground : "Sunshine Coast is due to welcome Kelly Slater's 2nd Surf Ranch!" Huh!
Q: Did WSL / Consolidated Properties do a Govt Land Swap similar to this Perth deal?
Also...was that always the Aim with the targeted Blue Heart Overkill.
Coz tbb thinks ALP Govt would win Cred by rescuing the Blue Heart in Blue Ribbon Heartland!
https://concreteplayground.com/perth/travel-leisure/aventuur-perth-surf-...
Double Scoop Wave Pool Bonus...can we even do that...
Ain't no turnin' back...set the controls for the heart of Perth Wave Pools...
Please slow down tbb...we're gonna wipeout!
Classical Perth Surf Stoke...from the renaissance Wave Pool Period
&t=10sSpecial Treat for crew & Perth Wave Pool Fans...
https://atconsulting.com.au/project/bayswater-waves-aquatic-centre/
After 25 years The Bayswater Liberace Wave Pool gets a re-tiling job...Drool! Precious!
Rare chance to spy on Perth's Top Secret Centrifugal Blowers & Oscillating Butterfly Valves.
Contraband Microfilm of Perth's exclusive Jet Powered Wave Pool Secrets...Exposed!
https://bayswaterrecreation.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/Photo-Wave...
https://bayswaterrecreation.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/IMG_2738-2...
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=642504507682575&set=pcb.642508501015509
https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=220145620394483&set=pb.1000719713910...
Thanx for sharing the works Bayswater Waves...good luck with the Renaissance Wave Pool reno.
Salute the Team for keeping the Wave Pool...Locals will be stoked! Man that is so sweet!
If ya need a Test Pilot for yer Max Propulsion Test...tbb is a fully qualified hardcore crash test dummy!
Go Perth ...Yeww!