Gold Coast "Endless Surf Wave Lagoon"

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truebluebasher started the topic in Friday, 12 Mar 2021 at 10:17am

Gold Coast Parkwood "Endless Surf Wave Lagoon"
$35m Project is set to open by 2023

Mayor kicks off proceedings ..."Fits the Bill Perfectly!"
Destination Gold Coast ..."Essential to Diversify"



"The Wave Park would be the Biggest Drawcard for Goldie in more than 2 decades."
"We want to make sure that Parkwood becomes the Home of GC Sport!"

Parkwood have been angling a wavepool for 3 years.
Surrounding Creek / Lakes are financially secured & up zones are in place.
"We will spend the next few months working with the community...
...and local council on getting the project approved."
Earlier free range approvals as good as stamp Water Park / rec on site!
Manager points to main Lake *Next to existing Golf Course & future Hotel.

Parkwood Site / WavePool ~ Qld Local history links

10 May 2020 (re: Courier Mail Paywall article )

May 2020 : Parkwood "Top Golf Director" signs to Surf Lakes

May 2020 : Surf Lakes " Enginuity Solutions" were to begin site works during 2021

Sept 2020 : Sunshine Coast Council approve Sanad "Endless Surf Wave Pool"
swellnet link

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truebluebasher Friday, 12 Mar 2021 at 1:58pm

Parkwood wasted no time for Wave Pool Promos.

Parkwood Wave Lagoon logistics...
Enough Water is secured by Parkwood.
Site is shrouded by hills so Wind is less a factor...

Flooding 1/20 year events will turn into a Mud Bath.

Site Access - Parkwood never, likely can't run a shuttle to GC #1 Transit Hub!
Long way from the Surf & not far from > (GC Uni / Hospital Tram Hub)
It's also hidden in a residential pocket...not a Qldurr Hwy Tourist Wave Pool
From Brisbane > GC 2 main roads are nearby to entice Brizzos from beaches.
Tram looks accessible but [ 714 ] Bus link (Hrly) + a/h ends before Park Close.
Napper Road Bus stops are about 1km paved walk to site. (Not Grom friendly!)
Highly unlikely to score a free shuttle bay at OZ # 1 Emergency Hospital.

Parkwood Country Club Boomer's offspring run a plush Jock's / Lycra Gym Hang.
tbb has checked out the site for Wave Pool machinations.
Very surprised by flocks of 'early birds' & after work recreation scene of all fit types.
Pool is already onsite so a Wave Pool wouldn't be outta place here!

Sure you may need high netting near tees but it wouldn't kill the vibe.
Walkers may vote to extend early open & leisurely evening yuppie surfie hang.
It does sound odd...but WSL jocks are also slotting a Wave Pool into a golf course.
Anyone for a Resident Man on Man Tennis / Golf / Surfing Pro...

Hours / Pricing
(Golf) 6 am - 10 pm ( floodlit mini golf) Wavepool could operate the same hours!
Wave Pool noise should have a buffer to houses > closer to Hotel guests.

Parkwood geared down prices & fits into Urbnsurf Corp Jock atmosphere.
More open to discounted packages with a host of bundled offsets.
eg: Board friendly Surf Tram > Free Shuttle will keelhaul the Boyz to the Yard.

Repeating the Parkwood Manager : "Biggest drawcard on Goldie for 20 years"
If that's true, then quality, price & transit must be accessible & open to all.
A lot rides on Tram shuttle access to GCCC / Oz #1 Emergency Hospital Cash Cow.
Crackin' open the GCCC Bank Vault takes friends in high places, that does!
Our dodgy Mayor's on Board! "The Bill's fit perfectly!" Something like that!

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truebluebasher Friday, 12 Mar 2021 at 2:14pm

swellnet link to Surf Lakes Gold Coast fishing expedition > (re: Parkwood Site)

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 9:08pm

A few more News Promos

Endless Surf President Paul Chutter : " They share our passion for Pushing Technological Boundaries, putting Endless Surf as the Heart & Soul of their Development in order to build a vibrant community hub. The Venue's existing High-Performance Sports focus will lend itself to this World-Class Surf Showcase and help develop the talents of a whole new generation of Local Surfers."

Paul is the son of CEO Geoff Chutter (5 decades in the Job)

Luke Altschwagger : "If all goes well it could be open Open in as little as 2 years."

* $200m Mixed Development
* Surf Pool as the Centrepiece
* World Class + Flexible Waves for all types of Surfers.
* Easy Transport Access...( re: tbb transport review above! )

5th April GCB : "Detailed Investigation + Community Consultation"...(Usually 1 Month)
Qld Govt approve GCB [f] as Consult.(92 Comments so far...mostly daft...well they are!)
Possibly bump it up with in house Golf / Tourism Site [YES / NO] ... even The Club itself.
It need not be by Surfers but focused on surfers as complimentary to Club / Parkwood.

If anyone can get behind the GCB cool to share the Plans if any!
Anyhow, report is to show that it seems more than just a Promo & there is a move on...
Crew know that's news within itself for a GC Wave Pool development.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 8:07pm

Gold Coast Parkwood "Giant Surf Park" Golf Resort
First actual on site Promo image....released today...

Parkwood Consult stage is over...
Today (Thursday 30th Sept 2021 ) Parkwood lodged plans with Gold Coast City Council

$200 > $300m Upgrade
9 Towers x 6-8 storey each overcrowd the waves in classic Goldie Timeshare Trolley Upzone Theme
So realistic... you'll dead set swear yer being boxed in... just like down at the beach...
225 res' units / Hotel / Offices / Education /Health-Rec / Dining overlooking the wave pool.

Wave Pool > 2 x (L/R) A frames...great for racing dual L/R comp rounds
Lagoon fits 70 with waves every 8 secs with rides lasting 12seconds giving 12-14 waves each/hr.

The photo is just one Wave Set option...Wave Variety & Quality will revolutionize the sport.
Precious little Crowd arena for Pro Comps
Reported as an elite Training Surf Sports Camp.
Focus is on faux Beach Front property showcased by VIP insta Beach Babes & Booze.
Note...all current Qld Wave Pools in councils are selling the Beach Bar & Bikini > (Family Tourism)

Additional info from Brisbane 9 news (Thursday)
"Parkwood Wave Pool" Project should start by end of 2022 > open by Xmas 2023...

Similar plans for Port Douglas / Paris / Dominican Republic / Vietnam

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 20 Oct 2021 at 10:34pm

Gold Coast 'Palm Springs' architectural Language
The Parkwood 'Palm Springs' Integrated Endless Surf Village
Surf HQ
European Style premium Beach Club / bar (North Beach)
Family Beach precinct (South Beach)
Extras include Event Lawn / Plaza +Weddings / Brewery and Bowling Lanes..
tbb mentioned the site has always aimed at everything for everyone.

Bus/Bike link Upgrade...proves that an entire rethink is underway.
Currently 100's of [P] > Project trims Visitors to 25 [P] (However Resort / Resident [P] is Massive?)
tbb is guessing this is a Massive Club with 1,000's of members

Wave Pool is seriously targeting Gold Coast Uni [+] Tramlink & local Gromz (In itself is Unusual)
Above 12th March 2021 (tbb reviewed : Bus Link/s being 1km distant walk from site )
A New Bus stop 'pair' is proposed at Wavepool Entry > Bus links Tram to Beaches
Equal bus link to and from City Beaches...(Note Bus priority is unusual in a Gold Coast development)

Logistics: Tram has expensive priority short/long term [P] rates adding $ 20-50 to surf (Unrealistic!)
Brizzos Train [P] > Tourists > Uni Stn Student [P] Permits can affordably access day Wave park Buses
Goldie Parents would need to drop off Gromz at City Tram / Bus Stops or Site.

Tram has board Racks but not for "Long Boards" or on Buses > No Peak ride -Surf Boards

Even more unusual for Goldie Whiteshoes is the priority onsite Bike [P]
295 Bike Racks over 3 levels is unheard of on the Goldie...This is a serious push for an Alt Grom hang.
Consider that Bus Stops are fitted on site & Buses don't do Peak Bikes/Boards.

Project is weirdly banking on a lot of fit local Gromz...( Uni is nearby & local tavern is a Jock hang?)
Focus seems to collar Family Grom to Youth Bike Gangs / Surf Tram / Booze / Babes a/h Party hang out.
tbb has noted the Pisspot / Fleshpot theme across all Qld Wave Pools

Council application certainly reveals more about Youthful Beach Disco focus for Wave Pool

Wave Pool & Wave Garden Plan ( Click & Scroll here for Endless Surf Models & designs )
Take yer time as Plans reveal much detail the more you look!
eg: This Model [ ES 4800 ] is the largest Wave Pool ( 282m x 84.5m ) Wave size 2ft-7ft (8-12secs)
3 zones Short Board (Expert) > Long Board (intermediate) > Foam Board (Beginner)
Private/Event mode ramps to 6ft full length 26 sec Barrel...Ok!

Notice (Thunderbirds) Surf HQ is central to Resort
Staff 50 > L/R separate Life Guards with own First Aid Rooms
This is a massive premium dedicated land bank Surf Resort / Beach Project.

tbb has a weird 1960's Surf Link to nearby 'Lake beach' that lends some local background.
Got a photo of a '60's Grom Surfing wind chop on Lake Coombabah ( served as Local's 'Beach' )
Oddly some still refer to it as a beach...(Youth are long attracted to these upper North local waters)
1969 Mike Doyle proposed a Northern Goldie 5 ft / 200yrd long ride every 40 seconds (Later Kelly)
Also note nearby Cable Ski World was once a similar large Youth hang...rebuilt west of Wet'n'Wild.
Kidz make these still Northern Waters a hang...could come on big for a good while!
Upper Coomera River Rope Swing has been a solid Local now Global Hang for 50 years or longer
What's weird is the simple all year round accessible nature of this site for's always on.
tbb rocked rock up with 70's Surfers / Punks > Tinnie rats / Backpackers / Cops > keeps puttin' out!
Meet the Locals...tbb salutes the great vidz...brings back memories...same fun spot as cool!

Unsure how a Local Quicky fits in! Too early to say but Wave Park should be accessible to all.
Focus is on Youth but also seemingly a VIP Boomer Members Package could yet feature as large.
Crew know these Member Packs are over the Top & priced for Kings!

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 10 Aug 2022 at 4:08pm

Luke Altschwager : "Largest Surf Pool in the World"

10th Aug 2022 Parkwood have submitted all relevant Docs to Gold Coast City Council

11-26th Aug 2022 Community Consultation Commences (15 days to have yer say! )

Parkwood Info Days (Via Bookings?)
Phone Luke 0421 987 784
Tickets :

16th Tues 5:30 pm
17th Wed 5:30 pm
20th Sat 10:00 am + 12:00 noon
27th Sat 10:00 am + 12:00 noon

2nd Sept 2022 Consultation Signs will come down (Extra Days : Due to School Holiday extension)

Council Application / Consultation is also running in Today's Courier Mail...(Paywall)

Website PVG Parkwood Village Golf and Surf Resort

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Nick Bone Wednesday, 10 Aug 2022 at 8:28pm

Wow. Watched that video. Those rendered images really remind of a surfy village lifestyle. Surely this is another that’s not gonna get past said video.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 11 Aug 2022 at 11:53pm

There is an alternate web site that assists with the current Wave Pool Development Process.
It is very handy as it affords direct line of enquiry...or here also...

Unfortunately it doesn't run a timeline but does explain each stage & where the Development stands.
So it is helpful to know that the current consultation is toward the end of the process.
tbb can throw in helpful Timestamps via above Media releases...should help get crew on the same page!

Gold Coast Wave Pool Development Approval Components include...

*Visual Amenity- (See next : Dictated by Acoustic Design)

*Acoustic Amenity ( Parkwood are concerned about noise & are sharing Acoustic build here...)

*Flood Management (2017 Parkwood Flooding Examples)

*Development "Application" Process (5 Stages)
First (3) stages have already been undertaken during 2021/22...

(1) 30th Sept 2021 Lodgement (Refer to 30th Sept 2021 comment for initial Plans / Info / Consult)

(2) Referral to Stakeholders Qld Govt etc...(Secret Men's Business!)

(3) GCCC extra info requirement (If needed!) re: 20th Oct 2021 (Link- Reveals Detailed Plans)

That brings us up to date & on the same page ......................................................................................................

(4) 11th Aug 2022 Public Notification / Consult / Feedback > re: yesterday 10th Aug for Timetable.
For entry level info ... Here's the Parkwood Organizer's Phone Number : 55633342

Next & Final Phase ...........................................................................................................................

(5) Gold Coast City Council Decision to Approve or Not?

Goldie Locals are only too happy to share these details of our Council's Wave Pool approval process
Hope it helps with yours!
eg: Very GC to have to book a Ticket for some Whiteshoe Stompin' Time!
Have to beg for equitable access to displays & info stands...being treated as Surf Village idiots!

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truebluebasher Friday, 19 Aug 2022 at 2:37pm

$300m Parkwood Wave Pool Resort
Original Plans

Parkwood Town Planner is Michael Nash " Gold Coast Council rep of 10 years"
Hired to limit external adverse impacts...Flooding / Noise Issues.
Changes (Upgrades)
*Traffic > Tourism Transit > Also should read as #1 Default Planning (Above)
*Sport / Recreation > "Tourism"
*Multiple Dwelling > (Rental / Timeshare / Members) High Rise Apartments.
*Medium Impact Industry > (Micro Brewery)
*Retirement Villas (Upgrade) > Hodad Hang

This website also lists existing expansive mixed uses (includes unusually solid anchors)
*Health / Medial / Wellbeing
*Tourism / Sport / Event > Offices & Management
*Footy / Golf Club + Childcare + Carwash
Note: Former Parkwood "International" Golf Course, may have existing "international approval / access!"
*Indoor / Outdoor Sports Centres

Traffic Management
Public Amenity (Acoustic & Visual)
Flood Management : (News Flagged this!) Strategic placement of Pool fill so not to flood neighbours.
Request : (If any can share the recent seemingly substantial Goldie Bully release...that'd be cool.)

Flooding cont... Catchment Map & Hydraulic Report for Parkwood

Operational # Jobs +
Parkwood Club current operating Hours (5:00am > 2:00am)
tbb can confirm this unusual busy dawn [P] & recreational crew.
Wave Pool would slot in as easy as you like to create a default seachange dawn service.
Sun is delayed onto this tree shrouded course > lighting needs to dim with Sunrise & Sunset.
tbb means it's easy for Lighting to boss this natural setting & kill off the current #1 natural attraction.
So yes! Wave Pool will compliment this site but Mass lighting could equally kill off the dawn patrol.

Biggest tourism attraction is also the biggest set back for the Village...
Village Locals need recreational flow as in beachfront jogging & exercise gear & a hole in the wall.
Yet Surf Village #1 thru-fare is elevated, tight & convoluted...alienating with zero natural connect.
Can envisage dozens of high speed skateboard / scooter / bike collisions for no reason.
Greenlink trail also has impediments & lacks nature trails...all way too over engineered for a Surf village.
Needs #1 Feature Event trail surrounding the For sporting wheelies & kids bikes & Gran!
Wouldn't take much tweaking to steer this Deathstar toward the Age of Aquarius...Peace Out!

Wave Pool operating Hours are possibly the longest we've timetabled (4:00am > 11:00pm)
Goldie climate affords the Dawn Service...
Surrounding Goldie Water Theme Park Wave Pools are heated.
Sunny Coast Sanad Water Park will therefore likely be heated + then also their Wave Pool.
tbb thinks the Microbrewery at both Sanad / Parkwood will moderately heat respective Wave pools!
Seems like too much of a coincidence to marry micro brewery with new Wave pools.

Urbnsurf Melbourne (6:00am > 10:00pm)

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truebluebasher Friday, 19 Aug 2022 at 2:57pm

GCCC Parkwood Surf Park
Submissions (For / Against!)
Application by (Due Date 6th Sept 2022)
Attachments (Read growing tide of objections from Locals!) Not too surprising
Main reason for the VIP Bookings for what was supposed to a meet'n'greet public display!
Click [View attachment] for individual submissions...(Might read a past Titan's spoiler!)

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truebluebasher Friday, 26 Aug 2022 at 12:29am

Gold Coast Bully is claiming Developer has his hands full with traffic issues...
Citing nearby Hospital / Uni Grid Lock.
Local submissions are also primarily concerned with traffic.

12th March 2022 tbb covers the Transit / traffic...

Could be that locals also smell a ripe local neighbourhood Airb'n'b market with rowdy o/n shindigs.
Add to that the early opener!

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truebluebasher Friday, 26 Aug 2022 at 1:54am

Other Goldie Wave Pool bites the dust today...unsure if many knew of it...
In fact tbb had to do a double take to verify...

$820m Australian Legendary Kingdom
Carrara on the Nerang River Gold Coast.

Example of company's Family Wave Pools

Water Splashing Festival seems to feature Raft Surfing or riding on tides (Sure does!)
re: swellnet "Children of the Tide!"
2,000 years of Qiantang 9m Tidal Bore celebrations
7th -13th century Tang Dynasty Surfing (Could be that Goldie Surfing lucked out here!)
Sounds to unreal to be true...
The theme park seemed to centre around these Ancient Song River Tidal Bore festivals
Hard to locate this family wavepool...plenty of options.
Chinese biggest Songcheng Performance Development
June 2017 Finish?

*Only this news story mentions the Wave Pool

Would you believe 2020...(Nope!)

6 page blog doesn't share any wavepool news but features all Park designs...

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truebluebasher Saturday, 27 Aug 2022 at 9:34am

Local Parkwood Traffic Plan Upgrade for Wave Pool

1st : The Wave Pool has extended opening hours
2nd : There are no set open/close peak hours as a Theme Park
3rd : Wave Pool safety limits a very strict set of numbers / hour

In effect, this Wave Pool is the lone sustainably capped local operation during peak hour.
As opposed to everything else on this site or in the neighbourhood.
Bizarre to think that a WavePool has eco anything...but we just unearthed Wave Pool Kryptonite!
So funny...a carbon neutral Wave Wave Pool...well with the no extra peak traffic it rings true.
Can we bottle & sell that...(Hell yeah!) ... Right now is a panic time for Luke to brew & sell that.

This is important to establish as the upgraded Development site boasts 1,550 [P] = ( Nimby Fodder! )
It is the Club / Village / Brewery that has set open / close + peak / dining / happy hours = Traffic.

Local Traffic Upgrade Plans

Intersection 1 : Southbound Lane > West bound extra Turn Right ( Away from the Wave Pool )
This could be GCCC scamming a freebie standard upgrade from the Wave Pool developer

Intersection 2 : Ped Lights become Signalled Intersection + additional Wavepool Westbound Exit
Seemingly the only legit traffic upgrade relating to the Wave Pool development
Intersection 3 : (Main) Added Eastbound Right Lane > Southbound > (Hospital / Uni).
Again this seems like a stitch up from GCCC to scam a normal long overdue upgrade.
The East < > West Bus Stops have also been tweaked closer to the Wave Pool Entrance
Not shown here!

In short it seems the wave pool is falling victim to the Village Idiots...(Company may cop backwash!)

Other set in stone Examples...
Urbnsurf is set in the Airport Precinct + Darwin is also set in a CBD Waterfront Precinct.(Tick! & Tick!)
Other long successful Wave Pools sit central in Theme / Water Parks.
New Pool proposals are set for Olympic Village / CBD Train Station Precinct / Water Park
All have default Traffic Plans rubber stamped as right of way.

We see all off grid Stand alone Wave Pools cop a hiding by locals with endless appeals / rejections.
Melville / North Shore Noosa were recently crushed & now Glass House is appealed by rival Sanad.

In closing we see Govts support wave pools as components & locals boot them as a stand alone.
Traffic is a nightmare no matter what you do or don't do! (Less to do with a restricted VIP Wave Pool!)

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truebluebasher Sunday, 28 Aug 2022 at 3:44pm

GCCC expire these Wave Pool development hot links so we gotta reboot each visit.
Like this...( Expect these links to self destruct, as they do > resort to each respective Prompt )
(1) GCCC Homepage
(2) PD Online > Click [ Applications from 28 June 2018 ]
(3) Click [ Development applications in Public Notification > Click [Next]
(4) Click Application # [ OTH/2021/54 ] Lot 1 Parkwood
(5) Click > [ Attachments ]
(6) Choose Submission > YP 18/08/22 [ View Attachment ] Wave Acoustics (Excellent Choice!)
(7) (Plans) [ View Attachment ] 1-2min Load time ( Zoom 50% > Mouse Scroll ) > Side scrolls Freeze.
Wave Pool [ 8.1.30 ] > [ 8.2 ] + Attachment [ 5.0 ] Wave Garden / shorebreak

Recapping yer choices..
Whiteshoe Brigade > Online VIP Consult Tickets > GCCC Submissions (Freeze or Bump off or Expiry)

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truebluebasher Sunday, 28 Aug 2022 at 8:09pm

Mid Consult review!
The Wave Pool line in the sand is finally revealed.
Recent Gold Coast public submissions have reached a resounding consensus.

This was quite a surprise as many questions were answering themselves...
Round & round but always back to the same line in the sand.
Important to headline that these residents are fully aware they represent #1 Global Surf City.
Residents know they must submit genuine resistance to be their appeal must resonate!

Surf Industry all too easily boss merging forms of Surfing as one same attraction.
$ < Resort < Natural Recreation < (Surfing Reserve - Surf Park) > Built Recreation > Resort > $

Councils zone opposing forms of Surfing as opposite attractions
(Surfing) Scenic Amenity Park Recreational (vs) Amusement Park Ride Built Amenity (Wave Pool)

Surfing game plan is increasingly threatening to all Seaside & residential communities.
This is how we arrived at our here & now impasse of Surfers invading & exploiting Villages.
Hence these posters of Greedy Surfers riding Bulldozers thru crops & forests.

Councils have long zoned Wave Pools in Theme Parks / Urban Precincts / Remote locations.
Very few object to 9-5 Surfing in urban settings or extended hours in a/h Airport / Mall Precincts
None give 2 hoots if Surfers follow this universal Town Plan.

Wave pools are now crossing the line in the sand with Surf Resorts within Golf/Park Residential.
These developments are bullying & crashing thru community expectations...meeting resistance.
These ritzy tree lined burbs will earnestly defend their Native Parklife critters.
Yes! Many locals give names to their local critters from Kangaroos > Koalas > Birds...etc!
Aka French resistance of little people fending off Metal Monsters surfing over helpless critters!

Sure, tbb is having a lend...not so! These are accurate reflections of Community submissions.
Summary of Wave Pool Submissions (Fortnight) 10th Aug - 23rd Aug
Locals submitted exhaustive appeals early as supporters stamped [Yes] from afar in equal number.
A few locals supported their mate Luke...good job...(Crew know the score!)
Developers Consultants usually stamp one extra for than against...way it is in SEQ...always will be!

What tbb is after is the Wave Pool submissions from a World class Surf City.

Roughly 35 submissions relate directly to the Wave Pool
7 = Straight up Support The Wave Pool > 2 = Global Surf Resort / Olympic Venue
2 = Support the Wave Pool but at another site thanx!
26 = Opposed the Wave Pool + 1 outright hated it!
Objections to town plan breach were not Wave Pool specific but were a common theme of objection.
12 = Opposed Operating Hours 4am-11pm (Q: 9-5 [M1] wave pools (vs) 4-11 in sleepy burbs) Huh?
9 = Opposed Noise by Wave Pool Patrons...YEW! Oops! Yew! "STFU!" fisty pumps!
8 = Opposed Noise by Wave Generator ( The Beast )
5 = Opposed the relentless Wave Sound +1 Submitted Wave Acoustics Doc certifying noise breach.
5 = Opposed threat to Wildlife > ( Trees + a/h Noise / Lights )
5 = Opposed early / late night Wave Pool > Residential [P] > No Info despite requests.
5 = Opposed Wave Pool Lights + 1 Opposed the Pro Jock replay Screen
4 = Opposed Wave Pool > Neighbourhood Amenity > Servicing + Parties
4 = Opposed Wave Pool Traffic > 1 noted crowds would gather at ultra early Start & ultra late Finish
4 = Opposed Wave Pool in a residential Area no matter what
3 = Opposed Wave Pool blight on landscape > All embrace the Golf Course seasonal Parklife
2 = Opposed Wave Pool Water Waste
2 = Opposed International Events in their neighbourhood

As crew can read...all constructive criticism that Surf Industry needs to address if they peddle pools.

tbb finds the Noise & Wave acoustics most telling...
1906 The sound of the Surf was constantly audible thru-out the Big Swamp...(Gold Coast)
Parkwood / Southport residents relied on Burleigh Barrelometer Acoustics for Weather Forecast.
Listen for Southport Breakers = Fine Weather (vs) Listen for Burleigh Barrelometer = Rain.|||l-title=42|||sortby=dateAsc
Gold Coast Wave Acoustics of 20km distance once operated as a barometer on this very site.
These Wave pool mechanics would've fouled 20km weather observations back in pre Auto era...Wow!
100 Years on & now they can plonk these confounded noisy Burleigh Barrelometers in yer Back Yard!

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 7 Sep 2022 at 7:57pm

Parkwood Surf Park Consultation ends... ( Review )
Developer mails out more Consult to interstate Club members to balance out Local objectors.
Most visitors were in favour (vs) Most locals are against.
Developers Consult (Support/ Object) Forms are junk mail & conveniently wash out the Wave Pool.
Public could add comment/s about Wave Pool (Mostly Southern Regional Surfers added Yes!)
Syndicated Objection Forms of 3 types + Online feedback shared similar Wave Pool concern thru-out
Crew can read the longer the Submissions Period the more united the Wave Pool objection issues.
Results show toward the end...many Wave Pool issues began to appear in block response forms.

What we read here is possibly the last of widest response for & against Wave Pools from Oz wide.
tbb feels it's important for future of wave pools to share this wide ranging response for & against.
There is much highly valued response when Wave Pool was isolated as central component.

Wave Pool Supporters... 14 were mostly regional surfers ( Breakdown of given support...)
Olympic Venue 2 > Pro Venue 2 > International Surf Tourism 6 > Alt a/h 3 > Alt Poor surf 3 > [L] 3
> Avoid Crowds 2 > Alt Beach Hang / Realty 2

Wave Pool preferred in a Theme Park ... 21 ( Either For / Against...)
Possibly the go to objection for whole "Theme Park development in a neighbourhood"
Seemingly more objected to Wave Pool in the neighbourhood over the High Rise Resort...(Crazy?)
We can read this as non stop dizzy Theme Park amenity (vs) Urban sprawl recreational amenity
People are forced to side with least ghastly White Shoe Development = (No Wave Pool)

Wave Pool is Opposed no matter what or where ... 39... (Reasons for Objection)
Resident objectors seem to know & share more info about wave pools than supporters.
eg: Arguing Wave acoustic results & noting Endless Surf has yet to build a Pro wave pool.
Yes! You bet...they know all this & more! Well, more than a few do & equally the chicks!

(Grouped by issues...mix'n'match as many overlap)
Traffic 30 > Residential a/h Service Vehicles 16 > Residential [P] 15
Hours (4am-11pm) 31 > Residential a/h loitering 14 > a/h Crime 11
Noise Wave Pool Patrons 28 > Wave Machine 26 > Robotic Fake Wave Acoustics 21 > Events 3
Flood Lights 22 / Screen 2 > Visual Pollution / Amenity 17 ( Fake > Non seasonal Pool build)
Enviro- Wildlife a/h impacts 26 > Water waste / containment & Floods 18 > Bulldozer Dust 13
Mental Health 7 (Relates to being Sleep deprived due to 19-21hr operation)

Super stoked with both visitors & community Wave Pool submissions.
Goldie crew are happy to share such broad scale response into Surfing in the burbs!

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udo Thursday, 8 Sep 2022 at 8:19am

TBB whatcha info ya on this.....

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 14 Sep 2022 at 12:54am

World Class Surf Park like nothing else in the World
Surfers can share their stoke!

Response to community concerns.
Theme Park : Operates (Full day) 9-5 Peak hours (vs) Business / 2hr appointments
Traffic : Slip Lanes + Non Peak Hours + Gated secure a/h service entry + Undercover [P]
Hours : 4:am > 11:am (vs) Current Club hours 5:am > 2:am
Noise : Lower the pool setting with Earth mounded Build + silencers on Wave Machine tech.
Lighting / Amenity : Pool hugs the Earth Mounded vegetated Build leaving natural green space.
Wildlife : Spotters / Re-established Wetlands > Tiered lagoons > replant 1:10 trees.
Flooding : Wave Pool will not be affected.

Important for free surfers
"The Surf Park will offer a controlled safe environment that nature simply cannot compete with!
The Pool itself is not designed to use for swimming, it will be used for high performance surfing, intermediate surfing and learn to surf, all with Traditional Surfboards."

It's highly possible that Endless Surf wish to restrict free surfers from engaging sub marine pneumatics.
Any colonic irrigation that ruptures yer gizzards will likely need a Gold Pass!
Fully immersed Bodybasherz & Partly submerged prone Boogerz would be considered at Risk!
Restricted access for any partly or fully engaging with any naughty beneath surface wave dynamics.

Tech restricts surfing to the aerodynamic top half of wave! (High Performance Traditional Boardriding)
Just humour them...that 50% of every Wave goes unridden & is being flushed down the drain...say wot!

New Surf Pools have long banned Basherz...
Can't fully immerse in Lagoons / Feet & Lining risks / Fouling Wave Mechanics...on & on & on!

Reply to udo...thanx for the link...( It uncovered a substantial "Surf / Lake" history )
Also credits your excellent follow up rare Surf Lakes research...salute!

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Oct 2022 at 7:20pm

We could be seeing a race to grant approval.
Gold Coast Surf City would love to lay claim to first Endless Surf Pool ahead of North Qld.
Also reckon Gold Coast will wanna beat Sunny Coast to any Unique Gold Spade hand out!

27th Sept ... Bully ran another Teaser...(vs) Locals...
It seems the Parkwood Surf Village "High Rises" is setting precedent for like Golf Courses.
Could be that Parkwood is a test case to up zone other courses to Hi Rise Resorts.

30th Sept ~ The Surf Resort vision Vid is now released on YouTube


Also bookends a very confident Surf Resort Boss ad!

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truebluebasher Sunday, 6 Nov 2022 at 5:38pm

31st Oct 2022 Goldie locals thank Wavepool Mag for the Parkwood Podcast

What can Wave Pool operators learn from Golf Course Developers?
* How the Wave Pool can attract Non Surfers
* Gold Coast Wave Pool must be 1st Class
* Respect Gold Coast Surf Culture (Average Goldie Surfer is high standard)
* Bring that Luxury Stoke to $80 Surf Session > Make it feel like a $300 session + (VIP sessions)
* Notes wide range of established Golf Course Models from Public > Members > Pro
* Golf Courses 50-60k yr (vs) Wavepool 2-400k/yr ( 3x Golf Course visitors)
* Resort options
* Health & Well Being > Therapeutics
* Wider Age > Whole Family Demographic (Includes Grandma)
* Pre Surf attractions > Post Surf attractions
* Stay Longer > Spend Longer
* Marketed as "Something for Everyone

Other Surf Parks
Endless Surf invited Luke to meet 10 EU Wave Pools Developers
Luke says All Wave Parks opened their doors > Surf Lakes / Wisemans / Urbnsurf + Alaia Bay.

Parkwood Timeline
Sept / Oct 2022 : Focus is firmly on realistic functioning of Surf Park > Bling is not on the radar!
Sept / Oct 2022 : Not about speed > Do it once & do it right!
Sept / Oct 2022 : (Confirmation) Started Recruitment drive...
Capital + Construction Risks / Labour Shortage / Council Delays > (Understanding Site & Tech!)
Parkwood owns Land > Plenty of Patience > Can check labour saving options like Myrtha (Panels)
Xmas 2022 : Expecting Council Approval
June (Maybe) Sept/Oct 2023 : Realistic Construction Start

Luke's Tip : Envisage 25 years ahead then work yer way back to Master Plan. (Good advice!)
25th March 1987 Parkwood International Golf Club opening date
Current Course frontage Real Estate Ad > promotes the Wave Pool,extend,r=33,g=40,b=46/ad61c55...
Drone views potential dual Wave Pool / Ocean - Sunrise / Swell direction from Resort top level.
This Promo best shows that Hi-rise Resort connect with ocean & City lights may be envisaged.
Meaning : Holistic Sunrise - Dawn Patrol + Coastal Fireworks Extravaganzas ( CBD Connect )

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truebluebasher Saturday, 24 Dec 2022 at 7:24pm

End of the Year Update...
8th Oct From above Sept/Oct recruitment..(Note this Wave Pool Sandwich board bosses the Entry!)
19th Nov - Entry Vid again reveals up front Wave Pool (Sandwich Board) Welcome to Club.
Unsure if it's a regular welcome feature? Pretty weird though!

Parkwood do seem to be signing expressions of interest for Wave Pool staff.
Although it's not obvious to all...being an outside link.

Surf Park Summit...(Slightly less shallow Endless Surf promo is worth a share...Maybe!)
Why PVGSR chose Endless Surf & Myrtha Pools

Luke : Was expecting Xmas approval ?

13th Dec Real Estate Ad marketing the Wave Pool [SOLD] Maybe on inside Info?
Houses Avg $915k rising 18% since Wave Pool Proposal (Not Fever Pitch..Yet!)
$1,000/wk rental was found also marketing the Wave Pool by just the one firm.
WG Brazilian Developers anchor Wave Pools to up value land 10x which then banks the Surf Lagoon.
Check recent YouTube Vid for that one...can't miss it!

Parkwood Tram Stations ( Tram often promotes Surfboard access...again this Xmas! )
Proposal does reconfigure & upgrade Bus Stops...can revisit that...
Closest Tram Stations : Hospital $ [P] > Parkwood East [No-P] // Parkwood [P] > Helenvale Dual Stn [P]
Train / Tram Station Network is Surfboard compliant ( Less so Buses )

Parkwood [ Buses ] (Strictly No Longboards) Peak Hour Surfboard Risk > Driver Denial policy.
Meaning : a/h + off peak Day hours should accept boards but driver can refuse!
That's about it for the year of Goldie Surf Parks...apart from Rival Local Pro Ambassadors.

Watch this space for 2023 Oz Endless Surf Ambassador...should Park be approved.
Who Knows! Possibly one of the Endless Surf Goldie/Wiseman's Airy Ferries will double up!

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Supafreak Saturday, 24 Dec 2022 at 7:21pm

This would be an interesting wave if they could modify the scale of the wave to say 3 - 6 meters

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truebluebasher Sunday, 16 Apr 2023 at 6:19pm

Sunday session Whiteshoe Sandwich Board Selections
Above : tbb called out this Sandwich Board as being a little late as Public display had long expired?
Cool Hand Luke was also expecting approval by Xmas 2022?

Now it's after Easter & still no we gotta deep dive for another #1 swellnet exclusive!
Can we even do that on a Sunday...Nope! [ Locals Only ] Goldie crew are happy to share gold diggin'!

Recapping last submissions & all were on track...but soon after...

The whole shebang blows up in yer face...Really! Yes Really! Like how tbb...that's the exclusive!

11th Oct 2022 " Straight after the Public Sessions & BANG!"
* Increase Site Cover
* 135 Dwellings > 234 dwellings
* All 5 storey towers grow to 8 stories
* Increase all Commercial Precinct Gross Floor Area
* Surfers kicked outta Surf HQ

13th Oct GCCC Reply
~ Concerns about "Permanent Residents" living so close to a wave pool!
~ Event Acoustics
~ Loss of Surrounding Hillside Residents Views with (8 stories)
Above tbb points out ocean views from highest points...marries in with Surf culture > Fireworks etc!

1/10 Year Flooding Concerns
* Wave Pool is Central to all & needs Priority #1 Stage listing > Not some wishy washy Flexi Gig!
* Both Pool & Machine Electrics get flooded out in 1/10 Event...can't pump out contaminated Pool.
* Delayed Central Health Contamination Crisis threatening Community & waterways.

3rd Nov Apply for Extension to deal with this shit...
20th Dec Further Extensions

Feb 2023 Qld Govt Transit response...
Noting Events Transit : 4x Coach Set Downs + 5x mini Buses
Only Helensvale Rail Station < > Hospital Tram Hub can stage that many Coach Parking Bays
Guessing Parkwood is Running Giant Beach Parties For Brizzos & Goldie crews!

Surfers are least able to use public transit / Taxis
Surfers are #1 [P] more than double & treble the Brewery or Medical Precincts.
tbb tried his best to marry up the stats as it best examples expected Wave Pool timetable!
Had a decent crack...just ride with it!
These are the expected [P] Hours % # of 'Surf Vehicles'. (Examples Crowded timetable)
Hours 6 >7 > 8 > 9 >10 >11 > 12 /Peak/.....1 > 2 > 3 > 4 > 5 > 6 > 7 > 8 > 9 >10.................11 > 12
%.......20-30-40-50 -70 - 80 - 90 /Peak/100- 90- 80- 70-60-60-50-50- 40-20.....Last wave in 11
#........32: 49: 65: 81:113:130:146 /Peak/162:146:130:113:97:97: 81: 81: 65: 32.....Last wave in 11

(Below!)...there is one major change that may trigger local shift in hours unforseen by operators!
Jan / Feb 2023 Further onto Acoustics now also Lighting is hindering Residential amenity?
This plus the Flooding of Central site...(Wave machine sits below HQ underground [P]
Developers "Undercroft" HQ [P] for extra 1/10 Flood Storage flowing to lower West Lake > Surrounds.
Basically too late to change height of Central Wave Pool site or height > so gotta cave out around it!
Re-check Bunds / Mounds to come in @ 11.55 m AHD or 0.32 under 1/50 Flood ... (Check!)

{Important Endless Surf Machine Notes}
Parkwood Wave Pool sits high on site to afford Flood Bund to keep machine high'n'dry.
Wiseman's Ferry road precinct houses Wave Machine + Spectator Flood Bund sloping down to River
Low lying Sanad can't Flood Bund in low Level Water Park so switched to AWM...(All got that!)
Basically gotta Crown a barrier around Endless Surf Machine > see Wiseman's added Panel Sides! Ok!
Low set motor is possibly why Endless Surf Teamed with Myrtha Pools Panels ... All got that!
Each project finds this out about half way thru...Oops! Oh Shit...(Choose!) 1 Dig / 2 Mound / 3 Panels!

Developer's Reply to Wave Machine > Acoustic / Lighting impacts on Residential Community is Rad!

Simply Flip the whole Wave Pool in reverse...Correct! This is easiest best way to win over council!
Residents hub the deeper Dim (side lit)Take off end of pool with waves breaking away into the light.
Then all residents can expect less glow & less noisy waves each night after night! after night!
This also provides Night / Bed - Balcony Privacy for any long term residents!
Returning quick instant bucks to developers!

With Reverse Pool crew can recap Surfers [P] this might not ring true.
As Summer onshore kicks in, new Reverse Wave Pool stokes up better option offshore pits by the hour.
From 9.00am onward the Pool will fight off more keen crew each hour into the balmy evening.
Winter offshore will present onshore in pool > likely see surfers camp in ocean line-ups!

Notes! Developers are constantly compiling extensive replies of 3x reports of 400 pages..
They're well on top to answer any tricky Council Replies...There is no backing down.
tbb is just stating it's easy to think with no news that they folded up...Not so! They are 100% committed!

27th April (Final Extension)
5th May (Submission Appeals!) Very soon we should see Media / Public Displays!
26th May (Submissions End)

GCCC Access (Follow Above process) PD Online
But this time Click [ Development Applications ] > (Not) in Public Notification!
l/a number [ OTH/2021/54 ] > Next page > Click Attachments > Choose
Tip! If you spend up to an hour on 400 page reports you will be bumped from another choice!
Also allow 5 mins for Latest Big 400 page Reports to load...

Happy to share Goldie Wave Pool updates!

PS: Oz Wave Pools all now changed Sites / Pool Companies / WARS / Redos / Now even Flip direction!
Anything goes...right up to the Buzzer...expect another twist here...Sure! Why not!
Reminding this site was originally staked by Surf Lakes we gotta expect another trick! All say Aye!

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 23 May 2023 at 9:38pm

5-26th May Submissions / Appeals
Here's what Parkwood Presented...(Unsure of Public Notification?)
There's no further Flooding Reports >
Parkwood HQ [P] 2nd level dug out / Bunds / Lowered Lake were possibly enough
GCCC seem to be pressing Acoustics / View Sheds (Win over the local pitchfork mob!)
Council has to be seen as being tough on Noise & Hi-rise blight!

12 May Acoustic Report (8th draft) 62 pages
Compliance is Predicted for 24/7 Wave Pool operation...

(Unsure if that's VIP Operating Hours or Cleaning Hours!)
tbb is yet to check 24/7 Operational maintenance for other pools!

14 Oct 2022 GCCC were concerned of Wave Noise on Residents as opposed to Short term stays!
Parkwood Wave Pool was spun 180* to meet WHO sleep disturbance criteria.
WHO criteria = Hum 30 dBA > 10-15 (Max Peaks) @ 45 dBA
Seemingly by Shutting windows Locks out 10 dBA
Sound Waves dBA isolated for Wave Pool Waves only!

Results will explain why GCCC were concerned about Wave Noise & Why Pool was rotated 180*.

Apartment Facade Highest dBA (*Waveface) Deduct 1/2 dBA > Mid lower Floor Levels

1 S 40 > *E 57 > N 52
2 S 42 > *E 59 > N 53
3 S 51 > *E 63 > N 57
4 s/w 58 *s/e 65 n/e 59
5 s/w 59 *s/e 64 n/e 55
6 s/w 55 *s/e 63 n/e 52
7 s/w 55 *s/e 59 n/e 39
8 W 47 > *S 55 > E 38
villas N 57+ E< >W 51
Med W 47/ N 40 / S 36

Neighbours E (Day 42 > Eve 35-Sat 44 > o/n 34)
Neighbours W ( Day 46 > Eve 41-Sat 45 > o/n 41)

WHO = Peak dDA as the norm for Neighbours ...Not Happy Jan!

Crowd ~ Beach 1,100 Viewing Deck 800 = 112 dBA
Soundplan = Indicates 2,000 @ Surf Comp / Stage- Beach Party waders / Viewing Deck

Meaning: a/c + Glass + Wall Insulation ratings are integrated into Residential Plans
Advice : Keep Doors / Windows Closed with a/c...(Hard to sell as Goldie Beach Village!)
Residents will likely rent out w/e or invite crews to drown out monthly Shock Jock Gigs
Neighbours > Thumping ... STFU!

15 May 2023 Visual Impact (125 Pages)
Parkwood Surf Village explain their reason for considerable Height upgrade.

Character : The Aggregate of Qualities that distinguishes one person or thing from another!
Identity : Condition, character or Distinguishing Features of person or thing!
Sense of Place : A feeling or appreciation for the Distinct Character of Locality!

tbb can put this into Goldie context...
Parkwood Beach is distinguishable alongside Coastline / Hinterland / Hospital / Tram Station.
Therefore elevates distinct local character (Parkwood Beach has Pride of Place on Goldie Landscape)

Locals might recall Royal Pines (Princess River Cruises) or Bond Uni (Mankind's Greatest Estuary)
All are typically iconic of late Geoff Burchill (re: Burchill's engineering on Parkwood Surf Beach.)

GCCC identified View Sheds so not to upset the well to do on surrounding Hilltop Mansions!

Parkwood Surf Village benefits by lighting up the Goldie night sky as a Nite Surf beach party Beacon!

Reflecting first light Dawn Sunshine from Hi Rise Glass to sparkle the Water & glow their Beach.
tbb can vouch Parkwood Crew are unusually lively & luv mornings but live in the shadows.
Extra Glass height + offset balcony curves will light up the Village Lineup at sun up & down.

tbb next level : "Balcony Curves should dance light off the wave tops like a seasonal sun dial."
Doubt if Developers are on this wave length...Anyhow...can't unread this = A Seasonal Wave Menu!
Think! Dual Sunlit Goldie Wave Faces with back lit Lips...A priceless Golden Hour.
Reflecting Sunrise / Sunsets to shimmer the Waves & radiate their beach banks daylight. Win! Win!

Like a Beacon soaking up first / last rays beamed onto the Mirror Pool surface to light up the Village.
tbb is spinnin' a local livability slant on wot appears to be a White Shoe Time Share!
Yes! The local crew will flock to this Beach as soon as sun rises & sets...d d' don't you worry 'bout that!

Hospitals pride the best views for wellness & healing...Churches / Cemeteries likewise.
Parkwood Surf Village will healthily stand shoulder to shoulder with GC Hospital & City Fireworks.
As said tbb was just putting their words into context of local landscape!

Parkwood are very much into promoting dawn patrol will follow!

Anyone wanna try their hand at a Lucky Dip in a Whiteshoe Brown Paper Sideshow Bag.
The best way to win over local's Noise & Visual concerns is to give the people what they want...durr!

22nd May 2023 Parkwood (Wedding Fireworks Display)
Council will soon receive no complaints from any local Dogs.
Council rubberstamps endless more skyhigh bright'n'noisy events at Surf HQ.

Ok! Surfwise...still very secretive on Wave Pool aspect as every operator before them.
Endless Surf Wall is tiered by Plants spilling over the Wall then a 3m running Track / Viewing Rail.
Then dropping again as Pool Wall...surfers should be able to be Coached or converse with mates.

This should bring a new dynamic not seen in other Pools but kinda similar to lineups!
As surfers return paddle they can wave at local mate or chat to passerby as if returning to lineup.
But we're talking about integrating conversations with locals...not just skeg banter!
Just like a proper Surf Village!