Buried whale carcass sparks community anger in Victoria

Joanna Crothers
Swellnet Dispatch

The Ocean Grove surfing community has expressed alarm at a decision by authorities to bury a whale carcass near a popular beach, with fears it could attract sharks to the area.

The dead whale washed up on the shore last week and on Friday it was buried at Collendina, near Point Lonsdale.

The Department of Environment, Land, Water and Planning (DELWP) posted on Facebook that the carcass was buried in accordance with the Victorian Cetacean Emergency Plan.

"Due to the advanced state of decomposition of the carcass, burial was considered a safe and effective immediate method to secure the site for public safety," DELWP posted on Facebook.

Diggers preparing to bury the dead whale on a beach at Collendina, near Point Lonsdale (Facebook: DELWP)

A petition was created on Change.org to get the department to remove the carcass, with some residents concerned the oil and smell from the carcass would leech into the ocean, increasing shark activity at the beach.

There are more than 1,500 names on the petition, which was set up on the weekend.

"A shark warning remains in place for the area. A small amount of whale blubber was removed from the beach near Collendina and monitoring will continue to occur over the coming days," the department said.

'A matter of public safety'

The president of 13th Beach Boardrider, Christian Pritchett, said club members normally use the beach right next to where the whale was buried.

He said there had been a negative reaction in the local community to the decision to bury it, "especially [for] the people who are fearful already of sharks."

"It just seems to us like a half-baked attempt. There's enough examples around the country of what not to do [when a whale washes up] and what happens when you try to bury a whale," Mr Pritchett said.

"Hundreds of people use that beach. And there's been warm days and plenty of people have been making the most of it.

The whale was buried 2.5 metres below the sand on this beach. (ABC News: Nicole Mills)"It's a surf beach and Ocean Grove is a swimming beach and it's a matter of public safety."

There have been other cases where a whale carcass was dug up again after similar concerns were raised.

Mr Pritchett said burying the carcass 2.5 metres under the sand wasn't deep enough.

"The surf on the high tide goes right up to that area, so the sand is just going to wash away. The currents and tidal flow through that area is significant," he said.

When dealing with a whale carcass, the general protocol is to drag it into the ocean, or if that's not possible, to take the carcass to landfill.

DELWP said access to the beach was difficult and the boat ramp at Ocean Grove was unsuitable for the types of vehicles needed to take the carcass to a disposal facility.

"It's just a matter of doing it once and doing it properly the first time," Mr Pritchett said.

"The longer it's there, the more it's going to decompose and the harder it's going to be to scoop it up."

Surfing Victoria and Surfing Australia decided to cancel a junior national event scheduled at Ocean Grove on the weekend, due to the concerns about increased shark activity.

Shark activity research

James Tucker is a PHD student at Southern Cross University in New South Wales who has been researching the different methods used to dispose of a whale carcass.

Mr Tucker said there is no evidence yet that burying a whale carcass increases shark activity, based on the testing of samples of ground water from the area.

"We are doing the first research really in the world about this and we're still in the process [of doing it]," he said.

"There is anecdotal evidence to suggest that shark activity is increased when carcasses are floating, but once they're moved out of the water there's really no evidence to suggest anything either way.

"Sharks are very intelligent animals so do they stick around when there's no food? There are lots of questions to be answered."

He said people should avoid swimming after heavy rain near the carcass as it may increase the rate of which leeching may occur.

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icandig Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 10:40am

How hard can it be? Hire a fishing trawler or two, scoop it up in a net and drag it out to sea. FFS. If they're worried about the cost, consider the tourist dollars leaving the place this summer in the event of an attack. The perceived risk of shark attack has already led to the cancellation of at least two surf comps that I know of. The general public know and are already avoiding swimming at the place.....Move it out to sea. Just do it.

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Nav Fox Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 2:15pm

We had the same thing happen at Yamba NSW. We called the authorities whilst the dead whale was about 200m of a local surfing point. The authorities didn't turn up until about 6 hours later. In that time a local surfer/fisho/carpenter/good fella towed the dead carcass out about 1km off the coast to avoid the huge humpback from landing on a popular beach. That same surfer/fisho/carpenter/good fella was almost fined for interfering with a dead whale (wtf?).
I was on the phone to the authorities that day, who told me they were going to tow it out to sea. The local community were all pretty happy with that call. Those same authorities then towed in to a beach about 4km from Angourie into the NP and beach the thing.
Needless to say the shark population has increased around Yamba with huge sharks being spotted in the weeks after the whale death.
Now it sucks a whale dies , but a logical thing to do would be to tow that thing out to sea and let nature do its best and give back to the eco system.

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.cylinders Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 6:51pm

Nav, if that good fella had copped a fine I reckon it'd be picked up and covered by the surf community based on all the entertainment he's given us over the years.

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OHV500 Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 11:28am

Far-out :((
As I have a house at Lonnie and knowing the amount of people that inundate the place over summer - this was such a bad call. Looks like surfing gleneuse is out for the time being, its bloody deep off the shelf :((

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bigredcouch Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 1:06pm

Yeah wouldn't be surfing anywhere near there this summer. Or corsair. Dangerous times.

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Tubbabird Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 1:29pm

Will be nice to see a few less teabags at both said spots

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.cylinders Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 6:52pm

Probably just as many clueless tea-bags and they'll all be wondering where the locals went...

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DavoF Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 11:46am

They did this up here on the Sunny Coast a few months back, after blood and stuff leaching out of the sand there was enough public uproar that the council then dug it up and trucked it away.

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Norm de Ploom Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 11:49am

Oil and gas deposits form by accumulation of hydrocarbon molecules that have migrated tens to hundreds of kilometres through porous source rock.
Beach sand, plus tides, plus rainfall, extremely porous.
Decomposing whale is essentially hydrocarbon molecules.
Don’t believe the Dr Buchers where they say burying a whale isnt an issue.

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Norm de Ploom Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 11:50am

Also note a whale buried at Bar Beach in 2010, was exposed during a storm swell in 2016.
Most of it intact.

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Lanky Dean Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 12:19pm

Bar beach ? Where ?

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Note also the NPWS “expert” says buried whales don’t emit stink is a “myth”

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Sprout Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 11:57am

Not even pretending to bury it back in the dunes, just right there in the tidal sand hey.

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Lanky Dean Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 12:20pm

What's the call?

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surfing with a spoon Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 12:42pm

Absolute arseclowns!

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3dfins Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 2:27pm

Bone heads 13Th has a Nice whale oil slick now for probably 12 months maybe more.

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Garryh Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 12:05pm

Might be years?

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monk Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 2:46pm

Hey all - like most of everyone on this thread I shake my head in disbelief every time this happens. If you think that this is not acceptable practice please take 1min of your life to sign the petition - sometimes these things actually work, and at least it is a practical way to channel our opinion/anger.


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.cylinders Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 6:55pm

If we continually petition to have carcasses removed, the costs of double handling the issue will eventually force councils to no longer see it as a viable option.

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Bnkref Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 3:24pm

Are there many surfing along the OG / 13th stretch since the whale appeared? Would have been some small fun ones this morning. I'll be staying clear for a while.

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I don't understand the rationale for burying whales... is it even something that happens naturally? I can imagine that after a few months to years on the beach, the carcass would get covered by a moving dune, or be washed out into the shallows. In both instances it would have been picked clean by marine life or scavenging birds after being exposed for a long time. There is no real natural process I can think of that would dump it suddenly 3-4m below the sand. The fact that after several years that whale still had meat on it suggests they just don't decompose in the cool, wet, anaerobic deep sand. Thus, how can parks and wildlife say this is the "most natural" option? surely better to tow it out to sea and dump it over the continental shelf where the vast majority of whales die and let the well established fish/shark/bottom feeders deal with the carcass?

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Machar Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 6:43pm

The point they made about the access ramp being inadequate is a lie. Last year rehabilitation works were conducted to reinforce the dunes near the toilet block/carpark at Ocean Grove, which is suffering from heavy erosion. The sand was moved from nearby raffs beach using haul/dump trucks and diggers. Therefore I find it hard to believe that the ramp couldn't handle the relocation of a whale carcass.

This just stinks of laziness.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 8:53pm

Let IWC be the Judge...

(a) JARPA III Scientific Whale Carcass Towies...(No shark option)
Free same day Beach Clean Up Crew (Thank You card/Sake/flowers) Sayonara!
(Note : Japanese Humane Whale option is banned by IWC)

(b) Oz Govt Jim's Whale exhumations with Lucky Dip slip slop skip...(Shark Hot Spot option)
Free roadside Dr Moreau Pick 'n' Mix Burley bags.
(Note: Oz Whale Bastardization option is 100% sanctioned by IWC)

At what depth of depravity do we sink too before we surrender ourselves to IWC...

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icandig Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 10:32pm

This one's a little cryptic for me TB, but I'll give it a try. a) Japanese whaling sarcasm?
b) Jim's franchises now extends to exhumations and bait sales? Also not sure I'm in need of a Swiss luxury watch. (I googled IWC - but assume it's International Whaling community or some such). Fact 1. Sharks eat whale. Fact 2 Whales swim in seawater and so do sharks. Assumption 1. Tow the fucking thing way out to sea and sharks and other sea creatures will eat it at sea. Assumption 2. Leave it on the beach leaching burley like a meat pie on the window sill and its an open invitation to come eat - and maybe hang about for after dinner treats. No disrespect to the fella, but I don't need a research scientist to confirm my assumptions. Just tow it and we can all get some sleep.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 9:55pm

Please note U.S. site change.org is not recognized by any Australian Govts/councils.
change.org is wrongfully billed as a petition site. Petitions need both names & addresses.
Should a Newspaper headline the Poll numbers then Pollies may be shamed into acting.

I reckon the Pollies start Petition to gauge heat...Knowing petition gets binned! Too easy!
Just know you're signing a 'feelgood' pretend petition...Did it stop me from signing? No!

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truebluebasher Friday, 23 Nov 2018 at 1:48am

Tow Away option is a little tricky icandig...not impossible but OZ is way outclassed.
Read on & you'll see why Towing option is not worth promoting just yet. Soon maybe!
(1) Harness
Australia has not got one decent Whale harness between all of the states...(Pathetic it is!)
Crescent Head whale harness onto truck.Snapped the strap nearly taking a blokes head off.
There are barges & Vessels large enough to tow a Whale if we could crowd fund a harness.

(2) Towing whale out to sea
Way Way out past all those Container ships on the horizon...(Commercial Shipping Lanes)
Unions will demand their brothers tow whale beyond their work sites out of harms way.
That's when fuel becomes a major deterrent.
Note whales do bellow up for a while...
There are recorded instances of utilizing Decomposing Whale as a raft (Big balloon)
Much preferable to burning Fuel Money dragging the Worlds biggest Dead weight.

(3) Sinking a Whale
Can't just dump it! Just like a mangy dog it also finds way back home.
More cases than not the same currents return same weighted whale to same shore.
Whale can be netted with weights on each corner pinning it down to the sea floor.
Alternate weights inside whale for similar effect. Concrete blocks is one such method.

(4) Whale Surf'n'Dive Reef Break.
Decaying Whale is a drawcard to Wild kingdom which in turn attracts scientists/tourists
You could actually sell tickets & profit from such advertised event.
The Whale carcass acts as a sea buffet @ mega Fauna Reef right down to smallest critters.
Whole regional sea creatures parade over the course of 3 weeks until carcass is perished.
No other event can pull in such majesty...Dive operators could best put a value on it!
Spectator Timetables his favourite sea creatures to come into Wild Aquarium.(Elusive selfie)

Note WA has tried Towing! Just tell the kids to look away. Real seat of your pants stuff!
No! I won't laugh as they have the best Whale carcass removal guidelines...

Just don't ask where I sourced such a whale sized sea folly...Happy to share Anytime!

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truebluebasher Friday, 23 Nov 2018 at 9:09am

In reference to International Whaling Commission Joke. It was meant as a wake-up call.
Japanese are Whale hunters but on the flipside wouldn't dare bruise their prized catch.

When our clumsy dogooders lasso the tails off whales we paint Jap' hunters as good guys.
We great pretenders wish to save the whales with a Tinnie, Slab + a hangman's noose.

Open to interpretation IWC & nations would see clear thru Australia's Whale dedication.
Scenario IWC may consider...
Migaloo washes ashore! World of kidz tune in to see Thunderbird 2 rescue live on TV ?

(a) Sea Shepherd say Sorry! A1 Whale rescue craft now pimped out as promo pirate ship!
(b) Reporters ask how ship sized suicidal exploding whale slips thru Dutto's Border Patrol.
(c) Come the hour Japanese Whaling Hunting vessel offers to rescue Migaloo.

[factcheck] Kidz see Japanese Whale Hunters (Carefright) save Migaloo with [007] on clock!

As it turns out, it was never really a joke after all...IWC grant Japan...OZ Whale Patrol.

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icandig Friday, 23 Nov 2018 at 9:54am

You're a funny bugger TB. Your shorthand baffles me sometimes, but I get the gist. Thanks for the info.

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adam12 Friday, 23 Nov 2018 at 1:31pm

Here's how dumb I am.
I live right nearby. Heard about the whale washing up and, bored that day, went down to check it out but they'd already buried it.
Yesterday, woke up, small and clean on the beaches with a wind change on the way, no time to fuck around looking for a bank, just grab a big board and go for a paddle at Grove. Which I did and shared the very average line up with the usual mals and SUPs and a big pack of frothing grommets who for some reason were not at school but were cool because they stayed off my waves and dropped in ten at once on each other. Usual average morning at home this time of year.
Got home, turn on the computer, ten minutes later I'm reminded they buried a big humpback just up the beach. Didn't even enter my head that morning.
I think I gotta get off the hooter.

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Legrope Saturday, 24 Nov 2018 at 12:34am

This is what happens and this one was being removed altogether. Keeping it on the beach is madness.

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simba Saturday, 24 Nov 2018 at 5:41am

Great footage Legrope in clear water shows exactly how it works.

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Legrope Saturday, 24 Nov 2018 at 4:29pm

Do we need more to send the authorities more examples. Maybe this only happens to whales and sharks in Albany and nowhere else in Australia? Or it might happen everywhere? My guess is everywhere.
If councils are to bury whales on beaches, they need a disclaimer sign reading "Whale buried on this beach. Do not enter the water here for the next 100 years or risk of shark attack may occur" I don't think they'd want to start doing that as eventually no beach will be safe, so get rid of the carcasses all together. At least the one in Albany was removed so only minor leaching into the sand.

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icandig Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:38am

Thanks for the video....that's all the evidence I need....dig it up....dispose of it somewhere else.

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icandig Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 9:49am

If you want the local council to do something about it, feel free to contact them directly.


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truebluebasher Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 4:16pm

Expert advice icandig...How many times do you hear Council never receiving a complaint.
2,000 hits on pretend petition has council breathing easy...At very least put them on notice!

Legrope's amazing aerial footage uncovers a link to Albany's Whaling history.

Cheyne's Beach Fin Whale was too large to handle or fit as whole on available truck.
Note: Beach sites would void many larger Trucks access to Whale.
Mad Max rigs from Sand Mining days making a comeback.

Anyhow Old school observers note that the Fin Whale has been de-fleshed (Flensed).
Others who have visited Albany Whale Station know what I'm about to say.
[BREAK GLASS IN CASE OF EMERGENCY] eg: Biggest whale ever washes up on your beach!
Local Whaling display centre has a display racks of Flensing Knives ready go.
Knock the school kidz aside smash glass...Back in business...Let's do this!
[WARNING] Historic Tall Whale Tale comes with customary...
(Seachange Whale shanty)
Fetch a Backhoe me Lads & Take me to ye whale
Tonight we let it rot & tomorrows another fail
We'll skip it to the Tip so no mother's child can see.
& tell them all we saw no monster from the sea.
& tell them all we saw! (Pause!) No...Monster from the sea.
Die die die die dididie die!

From Qlderz to Viccos ...here's some nearby State Towies to petition the council.

70's image is from Albany Whale Station (Tiny vessel tows two Humpbacks > ashore)

WA (Perth) 2014

NSW (2018 Spring)

Tas (One of a few Towies of that time)

S.A. (2018 Winter) Tow option was considered?

Qld (2018 Spring)

X-File The EXPLODING WHALE (no secrets here!)

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Norm de Ploom Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 4:42pm

This is what not to do with a washed up whale carcass..


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Jof Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 5:35pm

Most feel the same on this site but pollies and retards at the NPWS dont read these comments. Write direct to public emails at the NPWS and pollie emails. Punish them untill they cant say no and ignore the safety issue they are ignorant too.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 7:02pm

[1927] My local beach of Burleigh Heads (WSR) Locals tried every combo to rid a pet Whale.
I still don't know whether to laugh or cry...Everything that could go wrong did & more.
Old school Newspaper spares no detail transporting the reader into the thick of the action.
The more things change the more they stay the same! No point laughing as we're no better!

[WARNING] Story contains Exploding Whale + Tiger Shark Sharp Shooters.

Footnote: Nearby home owner sued council for a chunk of whale crashing thru her roof.

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icandig Sunday, 25 Nov 2018 at 10:43pm

TB - your research powers are astounding. Time prevents me from reading all of your references, but I'm truly impressed. I have to leave the whale issue for the time being (extended absence from technology), but I still urge anyone who gives a crap to contact Geelong City Council and let them they've made the wrong choice for a multitude of reasons.

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Garryh Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 12:23pm

It seems like Australia's whale population was decimated over the 19th and 20th century...up until whaling was banned in I think 1978. Perhaps 90% or even 95% or more of the population was gone. Over the past 40 years or so the whale populations have recovered. A lot. Do you think that the following hypothesis makes sense. (a) when humans almost wiped out the whale population...we also almost wiped out whale predators/scavengers (including White Pointers, Tigers, Bull sharks and oceanic white tips) and therefore (b) now that whale populations have started to increase rapidly...then the population of those scavengers/predators is also on the rise. If this seems plausible...then the low incidence of shark attacks over the past 40 years or so might be an aberration?

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brainiac Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 5:00pm

The good news today, I have heard that whale is been dug up in the next few days and been removed to landfill. Well done everyone who helped rectify this crazy decision.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 10:47pm

Garryh your astute observation has been observed by experts.
Nobody whale watched thru mid-late 1900's.
Yes! Low whale population took a more narrow offshore line drawing sharks well offshore.

2000's growing numbers naturally increases inshore interaction of all mega fauna!

Still rare to see a large pod of Whales mostly small pods. (So not a busier Whale Hwy!)
Meaning they're presenting a wider front on north offshore migration.
Northern migration can be good as now wider tired Whales feed orcas well out to sea.

However the Southern Migration returns with more calves drawing more sharks inshore...
We note that Sharks are pushing closer by increase in calves beaching on shorelines.
Right from the word go...Fraser Island + Sunshine/Gold Coasts calf beachings now common.
The increase of Shark net entanglements again traps mostly calves backs up this case .

Whales are also detouring in our Estuaries. (Perhaps seeking protection)
Sharks are driving more calves closer inshore therefore mega fauna now lives amongst us!

Other major inshore changes Since the 1970's also attract sharks. (No! I won't go on...)
Climate change with alarming record drought draws salt & sharks 120km to up river Cities
River/Ocean front Golf Course developments now litter our coastline
Golf course run off includes Phosphorous/Blood & bone/Fish/brine. Everything Sharks love!
Nearly all recent & concurring Shark attacks tide directly with Golf Courses/Airport run off.

Yes an increase in whales/drought/Golf Courses/Airports/Buried Whales brings Shark near!
Yes! We're doing everything to attract them & nothing to deter them.

Another more modern dumbass example from my hometown Burleigh Head's Lake System
Gold Coast 'Today' is erecting Beware of Sharks Signs in Mankind's greatest Estuary.
'Tidal Gate' times the natural river flow but it was never designed to let sharks into Lake Orr.

Hi rise Jocks watch Cricket while reeling in 6ft bullsharks to undercover Carpark

No! They can't physically swim out! Sharks truly occupy more real estate on Gold Coast.

{Royal Watchers} Prince Andrew visited this very same Lake today!

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 27 Nov 2018 at 11:01pm

Continuing on with this very same odd Right Royal Surf association...
Surf fans might recall that the local shaper Nev Hyman is the reigning Pitch Palace Champ!

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udo Thursday, 29 Nov 2018 at 4:26pm

Exhumation underway..!

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goofyfoot Thursday, 29 Nov 2018 at 4:34pm

Will they ever learn?!

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truebluebasher Thursday, 29 Nov 2018 at 8:59pm

Kiwis also cook them in the Hangi Pit... I somehow think our 'Lonnie' is a bit well done!
Maori tradition to eat beached whales. (True) In NZ some beach whales are still eaten.

1960's NZ Govt banned Maori access to Beached Whales.
1998 The Maori were given the rights to once again harvest Whale Carcasses.
500 Beached Whales have been resourced since inception in 1998.

Whales came from Forest God Tane who gifted them to Ocean God Tangaroa (Our Huey)
A beached whale completes it's journey by returning home as a godsend.
Maoris then gift the Whale it's 2nd life.
Thanking Tangaroa for the gift...is followed by naming ceremony...re: 'Lonnie'

NZ Govt are more than happy as local crew go to town resourcing their treasured gift.

Yes! Exactly...We're all thinking the same thing...No shortage of Maoris in Australia!
Sort out a deal with Salt Water crew and we flip this 100% to the good.
Saltwater Cultural centres can again be constructed in traditional Whale bone frame work.
Maori can utilize the whale bone jewelry & both source their Whalebone weapons as such.
Fisheries can determine the eating quality of each whale. Maori's will sort it either way.
This returns 100% fishing rights to Indigenous population for the good of all.
Neither Saltwater Crew or The Maori wish to kill Whales...give them 1st crack at the carcass!

For more detail & pics...
Do yourselves a favour & read this Good News Article on Whales...(Say Wot !!!) It's sick bro!


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truebluebasher Friday, 30 Nov 2018 at 8:06am

Devil lies in the detail.
To insure the 'Mana' is kept intact. Maoris might actually refuse any 3rd party assist.
The burial process of separating the flesh from bone extracting the oil needs examination.
With 500 examples one should be able to establish if breakdown attracts sharks or not.

Intervention by way of monitoring & (Mana) offsite return to earth option may work!
As for burying of the Whale bones...That's out of the question in CBD beach landscapes
If 'Mana' or 'Saltwater' adapted to modern times & urban settings we may have a solution.

Realistically it still requires a humane process of Whale removal by indigenous if need be.
Maori or Saltwater or Seachange...Mana whale flensing ceremony is frontline here & now!

A bottle of sake smashes into carcass. Mayor hams it up with a Ribboned Flensing knife.
We may not be ready for the Haka but I think we're turning Japanese! I really think so!

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truebluebasher Friday, 30 Nov 2018 at 8:52am

Right! Kids are off to school...
When we were kidz nearly every house had cats had kittens.
Those kittens never saw the light of day...
Hessian sack was dumped in the river. Sorry folks! That's how it was...(No RSPCA)

All now beg for the Whales to be dumped at sea either dead or alive by lasso, bag no matter.
Today's Council Tip Monsters moonlight as ghoulish Whale grave robbers.(Dead set for real)
Children selfie Whale shame as we nightmare the kittens in the bag...[Save Our Souls]

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velocityjohnno Friday, 30 Nov 2018 at 11:19am

Again great series of posts TBB hidden in obscure language, I did not know that of Maori custom.

In response, the original and best:

I'd love for Swellnet to do an article on 'wayfinding'; the method of ocean navigation used by the Polynesian peoples. I'm impressed by this as much as the celestial nav of my own ancestors, if not a bit more so. I think you can do courses in it on the North Island - they read the swell direction to point the ships iirc.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 Dec 2018 at 10:28pm

So kind ! & To be honest I never knew half either velocityjohnno.
I was searching for resourcing & eating of Whale carcasses as in Saltwater crew.
Doesn't that photo make you sit up! Not seen a whale crew look so reverent.
I got lucky...Any reader not sure? You simply must read this article on Maori Mana.
Thanks for the xmas gift bro...I'll get you back!
I honestly clicked on kidz vid' at 56 hits when I saw 9 million clicks like WTF bro!
Vid must crossover into Nang Slang!

I too can't recall swellnet interstellar ocean surfing by Polynesian & Saltwater.
Celestial is a good choice of word because Moon/Planets/Clouds/Stars all featured.
Colours of stars named as berries on trees meaning a white star in sea of red.
Seasong verse then times location while repeated words chart day/night course.

I'll 2nd your motion for Stu to do your ancestors proud...be top shelf without doubt.
Noted! No doubt we'll revisit all encompassing Moana.

A teaser... I'll return link this open xmas gift to all naturally...(Stingray in the sky)
Astronomy in Tasmanian Aboriginal Culture & Heritage..2015 (Thesis) by-
Michelle Kathryn Holly Kendall Gantevoort

I touched on Navigation in comments but deals with time + more (Oz classic)
Well laid out + easy to read + revelation after revelation.. 11 out of 10...enjoy.
note: So weird that Tasmanian Aboriginal Culture is a gift that keeps on giving!

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truebluebasher Sunday, 15 Nov 2020 at 10:51am

{R.I.P} swellnet join sending Mana to all our 2019 Whale Migration Surfers
WHALE SIZED WAVE OF THE DAY ~~~~ /\ ~~~~//((`~~~~//|(C...)>oO)o

Intro! Other countries have had Mega beachings (Quite eerie!)





Onto our Big Time Ozzie Surfers...
2019 tbb Qld/NSW Netted Whale Rescues appear in Qld Shark/Cetacean Timeline (Updated)

18th Jan 2019 Badger Beach Tasmania "Killer Whale" Dies after mammoth rescue attempt.

13 Feb 2019 Bunbury Dolphin Festival / Centre

4th May 2019 Victoria - Toothed Whale Fossil theory

24th May 2019 Barwon Heads Victoria Rescue of Whale trapped in ropes.

26th June 2019 [BEACH CLOSED] East Bay Albany Pygmy Sperm Whale

July 2019 Schouten Island Tasmania Young starving Humpback washed up (re:next Tas)

12th July 2019 Geographe Bay (S'Right Whale Nursery

20th July 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Back Beach, Bunbury WA beached whale.

9th August 2019 Clifton Beach Tas' Whale (Ship Strike) Trucked to Science Slab.
+ Cloudy Bay Bruny Island Tas Pilot Whale stranding + (Above Junior Whale)

18th August 2019 Sarina Mackay Qld Whale with rope around tail & carved initials?
Old Whale was freed from shark nets. Carcass was buried up away into the dunes

19th Aug 2019 Rainbow Beach Qld Minke calf is rescued from beach.

21st Aug 2019 Roebuck Bay Broome WA 5 dolphins stranded 3 put down/2 saved

29th Aug 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Logans Beach Vic (SR Whale calf) washed out to sea.

Early Sept 2019 Fraser Island Calf/s washed up! (had to be put down) Removal.
Note this is a timely sad recurrence every migration & needs Mana.

13 Sept 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Bruboodjoo Point Coral Bay WA Whale in wave zone

17th Sept 2019 One Mile Beach Port Stephens (Whale chopped up & buried off site)
[SHARK WARNING] with that one.

24th September 2019 Boag Rocks Gunnamatta Beach Mornington Peninsula Vic.
[SHARK WARNING] with that also! (Not sure if it's been moved or buried)

*Sept 2019 Review into the management of deceased whales in NSW
Report lacks real commitment but supports further studies.(It's a start!)

3rd Oct 2019 Bribie Island Brisbane Qld carcass washed up! (see comments)

5th Oct 2019 Bilgola Beach, North Sydney Sharks feed on Offshore Carcass

7th Oct 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Peppermint Grove, Capel WA.Whale in wave zone.

9th Oct 2019 [24hr Closure] Long Reef, North Narrabeen - ('Netted' a Juvenille whale)

10th Oct 2019 Karumba 'Gulf of Carpentaria Minke Whale Stranded

14th Oct 2019 Current [SHARK WARNING] Kilcunda South Gippsland Vic. in wave zone.

15th Oct 2019 Ballina ...Pod of Orca hunt Whale (Wild Video)

17th Oct 2019 Gold Coast Whale Nursery needs protection

18th Oct 2019 Tranmere Tasmania calf washed onto the Rocks

19th Oct 2019 Whale carcass live stream @ 3,200m deep off California (Super creepy)

22nd Oct 2019 *Bridport Tasmania 12m Sei Whale rope scars washes ashore (*Buried)

23rd Oct 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Big Hill Crescent Head Whale wedged in Headland.
Part 2 Fed up Locals remove and bury Big Hill Whale Carcass on private land.

24th October 2019 [ SHARK WARNING ] Salmon Beach WA

26th Oct 2019 Swellnet tbb Qld -Whale Sharks / Killer Whales / Omura whales

30th Oct 2019 [emergency alert] Tyrendarra Vic Killer Whale Carcass

12th Nov 2019 [SHARK WARNING ] Portland Harbour Vic (Small-removal planned)

28th Nov 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Salmon Beach WA Beached whale carcass

1st Dec 2019 Cheyne Beach Albany 2km offshore > Beached now (Dec 5 - Removed)

8th Dec 2019 Kingston Beach Tas beached Pilot Whale (Attempts to save it)

9th Dec 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Trigelow Beach Bremer Bay WA - Onshore carcass

9th Dec 2019 King Island Tasmania / Over 12 dead Dolphins washed up.(No Tests?)

14th Dec 2019 [SHARK WARNING] Shelley Beach, West Cape Howe NP (Sea Lion Carcass)

23rd Dec 2019 [Shark CAUTION] Southgate Dunes Beach Pygmy Sperm Whale (Update) >Tided Out.

23rd Dec 2019 [Shark CAUTION] Prevelley/Margs S'side Shark carcass in the break.

29th Dec 2019 Yallingup 12kms offshore fisherman 'wild film' of great whites chomping carcass

30th Dec 2019 Mandurah Whale Carcass (Critically injured) 500m offshore

31st Dec 2019 Tour operator finds 2kg $70k Ambergris @ (N'Perth-June) Donates to WA.

Beached Whales present as 'mega click bait' by size & nature.
Tips for whale Researchers ...(Double check dates)
[f] & Insta have poor date stamps so same dead Whale keeps popping up.
Iconic town whale gets exhumed each slow news-groundhog day.
Same Whale story for upcoming month of following year is the new norm.

tbb...Salutes & recommends world best Whale advisory groups
*Whale Spotting Tasmania (Dedicated inshore Whale companion)
*WA Sharksmart (Expert Warnings on stranded & beached Whales)

Feel free to list any errors or late additions for inclusion.
Crew respect your sincerity towards stranded Whales & Safe surfing beaches.
Wishing all a Happy 2020

Feel free to enjoy more swellnet exclusive 2019 inshore Timeline series

2019 Oz Artificial Surf Reefs Timeline

2019 {Ultra Rare} Qld -Whale Sharks / Killer Whales / Omura

2019 Qld record spate of Shark Attacks / Cetaceans

2019 Xmas / New year Gold Coast-Tweed (Large Sharks) [warning] unofficial

Xmas Bonus :
2003 South Africa (West Coast) Whale Strandings
Unearths ancient Whale Scavenging & resourcing.
Tallies a Whale Beaching each 15km's every 4.6yrs

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Waldorf Salad Tuesday, 29 Oct 2019 at 9:06am

Revelation 8:9
One-third of all things living in the sea died...

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truebluebasher Thursday, 31 Dec 2020 at 4:07pm

{R.I.P} swellnet crew send Mana to all our 2020 Whale Migration Surfers.
WHALE SIZED WAVE OF THE DAY ~~~~^~~~~/(`~~~~ /(C`~~~~/|(C`..)>oO)o

2020 (What's new with Whales)
* WA Towies + Carcass / GWS Tagging Stations
* US 100's of Gray Whale beachings continue from last season.
* 3 whales netted in 3 days on Gold Coast

4 Jan -SA Marine Mammal Research
6 WA Trigelow Beach Bremer Bay- Buried.
13 Vic Lake Entrance, Tyers Beach whale carcass.
14 Vic Port Fairy -beached- (Rare) Pair of Southern Right Whale Dolphins
29 White Sharks attacking Live Humpback Whale (Study Paper)
29 WA Museum "Otto the Blue Whale" (1887)

4 Feb WA Cheynes Beach Albany -Seal Carcass
5 Feb *Whales deafened by offshore Wind Turbines
8 Vic Coal Point -2.5m Leatherback Turtle (Dead)
11 NSW North Avoca -beached- Rare Beaked Whale
15 WA Flinders Bay Augusta - Carcass in shallows (Broke in two)
21 *US Cry Leviathan: A warning from World's Whales.

8 March (Greenest Blue) How The Great Whales are fighting Climate Change.
12 Australian Geographic "Orca vs GWS (Killer Duel Explained)
12 * First Observations of GWS attacking a live Humpback Whale
15 March -2 Aug - NSW -Gallery - Washing a Whale Carcass (Trad/Art Ritual)
20 *US Oregon 6th Gray Whale beaches this year (Towed away for Study)
+ https://www.beachconnection.net/news/wash_graywhale060220.php

8 -14 April WA Eagles Nest, Walpole - Towed ? Offshore
11 April - Bone Building Blocks by The Boneman re: (Whale /Dolphin)
29 * (Paper)- Southern Right Whales Genetic Diversity
28-4th May/ WA Belvidere Beach, North Bunbury-Beached / WA South West Beach

May WA Recherche Archipelago Esperance Offshore x4 White Tags
12 WA Yeagarup Augusta (Towed?) 17th Offshore x6 White Tags- Total 115
12 NT Cahills Xing up (60km) Snubfin Dolphin (dead) spring tide lift onto weir.(see 17 Sept)
14 WA Coral Bay Beach - Sick Whale on Reef
18 Qld Gold Coast man risks $25,000 fine to free a Whale from Shark Nets

19 SA Hines Bay -Beached - 12m (Rare Fin/Sei Whale) Museum or Decay!
21 *US Paper "Dead Cetacean? Beach,Bloat , Float ,Sink"
26 WA Cliff Head, South Dongara -Shallows
26 Vic Venus Bay -beached -"Rare" Pigmy Sperm Whale
29 NSW Management of Deceased Whales (Updated)

6 June Vic Museum "Operation Blue Whale" (1992/ 18.7m)
7 Tas Stanley locals Rescue beached Pigmy Whale (Salute!)
16 SA Coffin Bay, Eyre Peninsula -Beached-10M Sperm Whale
16 Marine Mammal Foundation "A Whale of a Time"
19/20/21 June Qld Gold Coast 3 Whale Nettings in 3 days (Huge outcry follows!)
19 NSW Jervis Bay (Rare) 1m+ Crested Bandfish
20 Qld Historic Photo Display ( Miss Australia Whale Surfing)
21 NSW Eden... Intact Humpback Vertibrae washes up
20 *Huge Salute! US Whale swam 400kms Up River to Montreal

3 July (Book) Fathoms (The World in the Whale)
3 - WA Cape Leschenault, Seabird -Beached
9 - Qld Urangan Beach Hervey Bay- Huge glob of Ambergris worth $1-2m !
10 *US Ancient Dolphin feasted on Killer Whales
13 SA 7 Mile Beach Eyre Peninsula -Beached 16m Sperm Whale
16 NSW Hat Head Whale Calf washes against Rocks then drifts back out..(Under observation)
16 WA Middleton Beach- Beached Marlin.
18 Qld - 4 shark Attacks in 5 weeks could be linked to East Coast Whale Migration
19 WA Lights Beach Denmark 'Part Carcass in shallows'
23 NSW North Entrance, Central Coast (Rare) Beaked Whale is beached.
28*US Killer Whale (Pregnant) carries calf for 17 days over 1,600kms.
31 Qld Swimmers I phones (Batteries) come dangerously close to Whale.

2 Aug NSW Clarence / Buchanans Head (Whale carcass in a decaying state)
3 WA Exmouth Humpback defends calf striking women snorkelers with Fins.
15 Qld Point Lookout 4m baby Humpback is hooked then freed from Drumline
- - Qld Alex Headland (Pt Lkt?) Baby Humpback beached to Caloundra Landfill.(re:Oct)
17 *What have we done to our Whale by Amia Srinivasan ( Surfchick ) Text / Pod
19/21 US Whale Project Knowing Whales Pods Part 1 & 2 + (2-Sept Saving Whales)
25 WA Salmon Beach Skeletal Remains Offshore
26 SA Whale Collection Manager
30 NSW Forster Sharks circle Whale carcass/fisherman

2 Sept- NSW Old Bar Beach - Offshore > 8m Beached remains > Landfill Tip
2 WA Lancelin Beached carcass (Removed)
4 WA Cape Riche Albany - Small 1.5m Tooth Whale carcass beached
4 NSW Blue Whale rare sighting
10 NSW Woolongong Bulli Point in the Rocky cove + (Bonus) 6m GWS
11 NSW Ballina 54t / 17m Sperm Whale (Ivory hunters chainsaw the beak) + Big GWS
12 WA Secret Harbour 7m Shark is as big as a whale
17 NT Kakadu Whale is 30km up Croc Creek (NT Headline?) Alive & kicking. (see: 12 May)
21 Tas- Macquarie Heads 470 stranded Pilot whales 108 saved (5 day rescue)
Tassie Devils ?
Notes: Learning Curve > Rescue & At sea Disposal with the use of Slings, Cranes, Barges, Booms
21 Qld Cape York (West side) Large Blue/Brydes Whale stranded was cared for then Euthanized.
Being a rare large isolated event with no Rangers/Access (re: Saltwater Policy!)
22 Qld Fraser Island Stranded Dwarf Minke Whale is freed
27 SA Eyre Peninsula / Neptune Islands Sharks munching into carcass.

1 Oct -Spain Orca attack Boats/Propellers (As do Sharks) > Fins / Boards (Explained?)
1 NSW Lennox Head Minke Whales bodysurf the shorebreak.
5 NSW Casuarina Beach Whale washes Up & out on High Tide
6 WA Boullanger Island 5m Whale Beached (Tide should move it out)
8 WA Peppermint Grove Bunbury SLS > offshore > whale beached >removed by council
11 Tas Macquarie Harbour (see: 21 Sept) Pilot Whales return 3 released / 1 died
Surfing Trial Harbour (Post Mass Stranding)
Why do Whales Strand ? (re : Tassie Stranding) 2 August papers respond.
13 WA Freemantle rare Blue Whale thought to have surfed Cargo Ship into port.
13 NSW Casuarina Beach (re: 5 Sept) Pilot Whale beached & taken to Tip.
15 "An issue Dead & Buried" by Stu Nettle swellnet (Examines Carcass Burials)
15 Qld Mermaid Beach GC - Giant 2.5-3m Letherback Turtle removed by Bobcat.(as is)
17 NZ Mass stranding 40 Pilot whales
24 Qld DES > Coolum Council approval to tow but whale ramped on rocks...
Next morning high tide the whale wasw towed 10n miles out > Jaw remained -weeks on.
25 Qld Pt Cartwright Contractor towed larger whale from near Shark nets. (See (1,2,3) above)
Contractor reported a 3rd whale Carcass 3n miles in Ship Lane > 1 Nov

1 Nov Qld Shelly Beach from Shipping Lane > parts of 3rd whale wash ashore.
3 Tas > NZ > Sri Lanka (Pilot Whale stranding cont..) 120 saved 2 die.
4 NSW Iluka Shark Bay 13m Humpback in shorebreak... (Lice/barnacles?)
Beached with Tide ( Slow or No Tow out of surf zone?) > Grafton Landfill
5 WA Garden Island 1km offshore sharks devour Whale carcass
10 USA Oregon Exploding Whale ~ Explosive 50th Anniversary re-edit.

17 Mexico San Benito Islands > New Whale Species

1 Dec - Thailand > uncover 3-5,000 y/o Whale Skeleton (7 miles inland)
16 -Vic Fairhaven (Drifted for days) Beached 18m Sperm Whale
Smoking ceremony includes burying small fragments to honour Whales Journey.
Whale was later dissected & trucked to Land Fill.
18 -WA Yeagarup -Beach Beached
20 - NSW Broulee 7pm 2 civilian vessels under SLS supervision Towed carcass 300m >2km out
21 NSW Redcliff Beach, Broom Head (Blubber Remains Only -Removed from Beach)
26 - UK -In too Deep...Whale Carcass 1 (vs) Telehandler 0
23-29 Indian Ocean - New Blue Whale song reveals new species.

(reply) icandig ...huge thanx!
tbb had trouble reading...even comics were a strain.
Short sharp hits of "Don Martin" fed & shaped alternate views.
UK comedians + odd News / Pix / Post snippets always appealed.

Yes, know the Local Studies Librarians...Town's 148yr only history is half done.

So a dead whale Timeline is well beyond tbb's skillset.
Whales test the Humane, bio emergency, safest response of each town.
Pushing resources, logistics to the limit...often revealing our weakness.
Firmly believe that Oz is missing out by not embracing a full whale Culture.

Also note that Paywalls will likely lock out all these timeline links.
So! Yes, tbb does try to [Cross weave facts into the frame]
When the link dies, locals have got reliable detail to quote or trace.

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icandig Friday, 1 Jan 2021 at 8:17pm

Wow TB. Once again your research skills amaze me. Were you ever a librarian or an academic?
edit** Can't go wrong with Alfred E Neumann as advisor / mentor.

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goofyfoot Friday, 1 Jan 2021 at 9:02pm

Second that icandig... tbb that’s incredible work there!

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Craig Saturday, 2 Jan 2021 at 7:44pm

Yes, wow TBB, that's a huge effort, much appreciated. Thanks!

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icandig Sunday, 3 Jan 2021 at 9:57pm

A video to accompany TB's "6 June Vic Museum "Operation Blue Whale" (1992/ 18.7m). "
I can't claim any great research skills led me to this, I happened upon it by chance (FB post of a page I follow).
Worth a watch if only to see someone elbows and knees deep in whale muck.