Whatever Happened To The Lazor Zap?

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
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Never has surfboard design been as open and accepting as it is in 2011. For the first time since the thruster was invented there is no single design element monopolising the marketplace. Surfers are being encouraged to ride a variety of equipment and the shapers are replying in kind, many knocking out a variety of designs, from short sidecut quads to refined Indo guns, in order to increase their market reach.

Despite this there is one design that hasn't been copied or cannibalised by other shapers – the McCoy Lazor Zap. Geoff McCoy is still the only person shaping boards with the Zap's classic teardrop outline - narrow nose and extremely wide tail. They stand in stark contrast to the recent trend of boards with fuller noses and wide point pushed forward.

The Lazor Zap has a chequered history; born from a period of great experimentation but largely forgotten in favour of the conventional thruster, its popularity mirrors the success of its most famous pilot - Cheyne Horan. Horan was a surfer who many feel didn't reach his potential because of his propensity to experiment, and rightly or wrongly the Lazor Zap has worn some of the blame.

Yet considering it is a design with a proven track record I found it curious that unlike Fish, Simmons Twins or Alaias, the Lazor Zap hasn't had a popular revival. I recently test rode a Lazor Zap and also spoke to Marc Atkinson, owner (but not for much longer) of the McCoy showroom in Manly.

Swellnet: How did the design first come about? Marc Atkinson: The Lazor Zap came through a revelation that Geoff had in the mid-70's. Geoff was constantly trying to understand the ifs and whys of surfboard design and the concept came to him in a big flash, so to speak. The idea came suddenly but he says it took a while to formulate in his head, and for a long time Geoff didn't have the guts to shape a Lazor Zap. He knew what it looked like yet it was so opposed to everything that was happening at the time that he thought it was too far out there. So he sat on it for a while.

When he eventually drew out the planshape on a blank he went "well, fuck, what's that?" It was so far removed from what was happening. He was viewing it in his house, and the story goes that the McCoy team, guys like Cheyne, MR, Mark Warren, Dappa, the very best surfers of the day, egged him on to give it a go and the design worked. It was a period of great experimentation and the no nose, wide tail concept worked.

To boil it right down...Geoff was trying to understand how an object works with an energy source – the energy source being the wave. The Lazor Zap was scientifically designed with that goal in mind.

Obviously they were single fins then, but does the concept work with thrusters? Originally it was a single fin because that's what was happening. But for mine, the Lazor Zap suits the thruster entirely - it makes sense with the narrow nose, wide tail and the necessity for back foot surfing. Cheyne rode single fins because he loved single fins.

To ride a Lazor Zap requires a certain technique. If you don't apply that technique you'll have problems. All the energy is down the back of the board, unlike most boards where the energy is in the middle and the front of the board. So unless you're on top of that energy you cant control it. It makes sense to have a thruster set up with it.

How long does it take to learn the correct technique? Geoff says himself that it takes six months to learn the correct technique. But there are plenty of people who are natural back foot surfers. I've seen guys walk in here who struggle on their current equipment. I put them on a Zap and bang! All of a sudden their surfing's improved 100%

Someone like myself who has a front foot technique, I have to adapt when I jump between boards. It can take two to three weeks, and I've got experience in making the adaption. For someone who's never done it it might take months.

These days everyone's got quivers and they're swapping equipment regularly, it makes it hard to devote yourself to a singular design like the Zap. Yeah, it makes it a bit hard, because people jump around on surfboards so much they may be reluctant to ride a Zap. I can understand. If you jump from a six foot thruster to a fish you're surfing a very similar board. At least one that is in the same ballpark. You can take the technique from one to the other with just a little bit of adjustment. You can't do that on a Zap. Maybe that's a reason you aren't seeing as many of them?

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I had ten surfs on a Lazor Zap. The dimensions were 6'0" x 20'3/4" x 3' (see photo 1). It had a touch too much foam for my 75kg frame and a 5'10" would've been better suited.

The waves I rode it in were between two and four feet. In surf this size the first turn on a regular shortboard is nearly always off the front foot – a quick pump to get the board planing and the rhythm established. The first thing I discovered on a Lazor Zap is that such a turn isn't possible. Every turn, even small speed pumps, must come from the back foot.

To do this required a rewiring of my surfing instincts which I can best describe as learning to switchfoot. If you've ever attempted to switchfoot you'll know that you must override your instincts and make a concious effort to weight your opposite leg. Riding the Zap I had the same experience; I got to my feet and had to resist weighting my front foot for speed, instead concentrating on my back foot, the one I didn't usually use.

It was hard work yet when it clicked the feeling was unique. The sensation not unlike an Alaia (or any finless board) at just the moment it spins out. Except the Zap doesn't spin out, it holds. It feels like the fins only begin to bite once the turn is initiated and it takes a bit of time to understand the feeling and build the confidence to lay it over.

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Swellnet: Years ago I read an article by Cheyne Horan where he said he and Geoff were trying to create a board that was neutral. After riding the Zap I'd say it is anything but neutral. Can you explain that? Marc Atkinson: I remember that but I think what needs to be made clear is the definition. What Cheyne and Geoff were working on was a board that opened up all the options to a rider. Neutrality comes from being able to do anything at any point in time.

Think of the way water runs through a deep concave compared to the Loaded Dome (The Loaded Dome is McCoy's signature bottom design. Space prevents me from describing it fully but think of a shallow dome on the bottom rear of the board, curving rail-to-rail and nose-to-tail). The water in the concave can only go one way. That's not neutrality. Run water across the Loaded Dome and it can run there or there or there (making hand gestures), whatever way the rider wishes to go. The board is lively because it can do anything, but it's neutral in the sense that it has no given track. It can take any track the rider wishes.

The design is closely associated with Cheyne Horan and sometimes derided for that. Is that fair? I've got an insane amount of respect for Cheyne Horan. As a surfer he really was one out of the box. He could do anything. Geoff and Cheyne's aim for neutrality came from a search for a board that would not inhibit Cheyne's talent in any form or way.

I saw an old photo of Cheyne recently and he was doing this insane bottom turn on a Zap. He had it laid over so heavily that only a fraction of his board was still in the water, just jamming off the bottom so hard and you could see he was just gonna blast that lip. That's what Geoff was trying to achieve for him. Thats why the Lazor Zaps got perceived as being too wild, cos Geoff was experimenting, trying to find the right object to fulfil Cheyne's talent. And Cheyne was trying to push them to their ridiculous limits, like taking a 5'6" Lazor Zap out to 20 foot Waimea.

Cheyne made a lot of mistakes in his career. Mistakes that cost world titles. I'm sure he'll get to a point and say 'yeah, I made some mistakes'. But from Geoff's point of view as designer and shaper he was trying to create an object that would not hold Cheyne back.

You've also got to remember that not all Cheyne's designs came from Geoff. Some of the more extreme boards were made by other shapers.

How similar are the modern Lazor Zaps compared to what Cheyne was riding? Similar in planshape and that's about it. Rocker, hull shape, rail line, it's all a bit different. The concept is the same but they've evolved.

Why aren't other shapers ripping off the design? I don't know if anyone else would be game! Despite what people may think they aren't an easy board to shape. There is a lot more to the design than just the planshape and they (the design elements) all have to work in tandem. Geoff has been working on it for fifty years.

It appears that McCoy still has a very loyal fan base. An incredibly loyal fan base, as was found when he did those articles in Surfing World and people had a go at the editor for the way they portrayed Geoff. Some of the comments shocked the SW guys. Geoff is a passionate and loyal person and he has passionate and loyal fans. The people that are into the McCoy trip tend to get right into it.

So who's buying McCoy boards these days? I send them out all over. All over Australia, and to Japan, Hong Kong, the UK. America is still OK but freight kills it. And they get sold to any and everybody...no, hang on...I don't think I've ever sold a board to a teenager. That may tell you something! But I get customers aged in their early 20's, when surfers are just beginning to experiment, and then aged upwards from there.

A large portion of our business is return business. Another large percentage is fixing people's problems. People walk in here with frowns cause they've been sold lemons and we help them with their surfing. Like I said, Geoff is a passionate and loyal person, and his philosophy holds and attracts many people. Which I guess is the answer to your question. Why would you go anywhere else if you're having fun?

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freeride76 Thursday, 16 Jun 2011 at 10:27pm

There was a really sweet period in the mid-90's when Geoff was shaping a sort of hybrid between the Zaps and the Nuggets.

That period produced boards which look a lot like current outlines.

I got my best ever shortboard from Geoff in that time. A 6'3" x 19x 2 5/8".

Those dims were considered super boaty for the time but that board went well in 2ft Pass to 6-8ft Gnaraloo.

Unfortunately it was snapped by a house guest and left under a house somewhere.

Geoff's hard-core. And anyone who knows him realises that they don't make 'em like him anymore.
An Aussie living cultural treasure.

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non-local Thursday, 16 Jun 2011 at 11:36pm

I had a few back in the mid to late 80's. My mates gave me shit for riding them but they worked, they were on the verge of spinning out the whole time but didn't. I learnt a lot about positioning on a wave through them and how to do 360's.
I was smart enough to not stay on the design, but they did teach me some things the early thrusters didn't and now some 25 years later I am riding my standard board with the wide point 5 1/2" back from center. They have a decent concave through them as opposed to the dome of McCoy and go unreal for a backfooted surfer.
You would be suprised what moving the wide point back will do for a backfoot surfer, give it a try and when it works remember McCoy and Horan.

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kookster Friday, 17 Jun 2011 at 12:40am

Ive been riding McCoys for three years now and have two new generation Zaps - 6'0 and 6'4. It's taken a few months to adapt, and I almost gave up on the 6'0 but it's now absolutely my favourite board. I've tried going back to "modern" boards and hate them. The Zaps give you incredible paddling ability and overcome the biggest issues I have with modern boards like bogging rails, getting whiplash from bumpy sections etc etc. I've never done front side roundhouses and backhand snaps like this before. And funnily enough I still class myself as a front-foot surfer. You get a few stares or comments like "that won't work in these waves" but I just like paddling inside deeper because you can take off earlier and seeing who's right. Anyone who dismisses them usually has never ridden one.

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nthcaltransplant Friday, 17 Jun 2011 at 4:42am

Do you think that Cheyne may have won a world title if he didn't try and ride such weird boards? I have been riding some very wide at the front AL Ms of late and also find it hard to go back to the "normal" board. I would love to try the zap i would imagine big big carves???

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stunet Friday, 17 Jun 2011 at 5:05am

Nah, not big carves at all NthCal, the Zap doesn't have the projection for that. The best turns I did on it were really quick snaps. Rather than carving off the top, for instance, I'd jam it hard to 90 degrees and come out with speed. The Zap wants to pivot and the back foot drive is necessary to extend the turns.

They aren't an easy board to surf but rewarding when you get it right. Unfortunately they aren't ideal in the age of the quiver. Unless you have a quiver of Zaps and Astron Zots that is!

I'd like to dig out some old footage of Cheyne to see how he was riding them. Photos don't really tell the story.

As for him winning a world title: Who knows...? Although he did win a Masters World Title, but I don't think that counts.

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hovercraft Friday, 17 Jun 2011 at 8:37am

I remember going to the McCoy shop at Avoca and spinning out on the Lazer Zaps. Spoke to Marc abour Lazer Zaps and he rightly said unless you surf fully bac foot 100% of the time dont go there....heres a Zot.....

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bman Friday, 17 Jun 2011 at 10:40am

I have had a few mccoys and have enjoyed most of them. I still have a small nugget which i like in certain waves. I tried a new zap - but found it too fickle compared to the nugget. Very backfooted, you even lean on the front foot for that first pump - game over. Still, i love Geoff's stuff and think it works very well for certain surfers, particularly those that are willing to spend the time with the adjustments required.

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nope Friday, 17 Jun 2011 at 10:01pm

just about anything will ride a barrel and perform a cut back if you give yourself to the board and dont expect anything first. from a boogie board to a sup.
its really pitiful how everyone rides the same shape(basically)
to clarify a little; yes, some boards will make surfing easier or more difficult depending on the surfer and the wave type.
and then theres the reality that you are not a pro surfer and no money or life benefiting experience will come from riding what everyone else does.
live a little! experiment!
i guarantee if you loose the ego you will find surfing is so much more then a brand name or aspiration to surfing like the flock.

i love standard shortboard surfing too.

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stunet Saturday, 18 Jun 2011 at 7:47am

Here's a bit of footage of Horan riding Lazor Zaps:

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He's not the classic backfoot surfer as in the Occy mold, but you can see how keeps the board moving through lots of short arc turns. There are a few other good YouTube films to be seen of Horan around this era.

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smeeagain Saturday, 18 Jun 2011 at 9:04am

Forgot how good Shane Horan surfed! You are all forgeting that the bottom curve has to suit the plan shape.

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batfink_and_karate Tuesday, 21 Jun 2011 at 12:49am

Is Cheyne in town at the moment?

I saw a bloke in the local shopping centre last week and although he went by quickly I thought 'Geez that looks like Cheyne Horan.'

Would have said something but it was all pretty quick and I didn't have time to weigh up whether to bother him.

And it probably wasn't him. That too.

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yoohooo Wednesday, 22 Jun 2011 at 4:42am

I think people struggle surfing off their back foot (with normal thrusters) because they're boards don't really allow them too, from lack of volume, geoff's designs address that very problem, and i've always wanted to try one.

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klm Wednesday, 22 Jun 2011 at 4:48am

I bought an Astron Zot last September, gull wing single fin. I'm a front foor surfer, used to ride standard short boards (still have one). The Zot is unreal, so much better for my surfing although it took a while to get used to. Even rode it in Fiji. Almost every surf someone stops me to check out the board. I'm still working at riding it on my back hand, but frontside has become an absolute joy.

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jun 2011 at 5:23am

I'd say the same KLM, almost every surf I had on the Lazor Zap, wouldn't matter where I was, someone would pull me up for a chat. I got a real kick out of it.

Despite the intervening years I think there's a real fondness for who Geoff McCoy is and what's he's done, plus the boards are just so unique in look and design that they stand out.

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stunet Wednesday, 22 Jun 2011 at 9:16am

I spoke to shaper Lee Stacey this afternoon about a board he's putting in his range. I originally got told the board was a modern Lazor Zap but that isn't entirely true. Lee took design cues from the Lazor Zap's tail - a wide point rushing in via flyers to a swallow with rounded points - but that is all his board owes to McCoy.

According to Lee the board is a result of work he's been doing with Bob Hurley and Rabbit, trying to incorporate 80's design elements but without resorting to a straight 80's replica. The board is called an 'Eighties Blast' and I'm hoping to have a go on it next swell.

Tim at Aloha Manly has one of them and that's where I photographed it. The dims of this one were 5'11" x 19 3/4 x 2 1/2. Great looking board - can't wait to ride it.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/stunet/leestacey.jpg

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1963-malibu Thursday, 23 Jun 2011 at 7:19am

McCoy was 40 years ahead of time with the Laser Zap, most people still dont understand what he is doing with them and they probably never will. The majority of surfers will probably never even TRY a wide tailed mccoy, unless some celebrity surfer endorses the design. But what better surfer is or has there been than Cheyne Horan??? Cheyne Horan is and was a FREAK in the water on ANY board!

Lucky for Geoff,he does not care.

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freeride76 Thursday, 23 Jun 2011 at 10:07am

Holy sheet Stu, that has to be the ugliest spray job I've ever seen.

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stunet Saturday, 25 Jun 2011 at 9:52am

Just bought myself a Tri Zap off eBay. $250 and seems to be in alright nick for a board made in 1983. Shame it doesn't have the classic spray...

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/stunet/Boards/TriZap3.jpg
]http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/stunet/Boards/TriZap2.jpg

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loco4olas Friday, 8 Jul 2011 at 9:42pm

Stu. I do have one of those Tri Zaps with a classic rainbow spray. Kinda' like the Stacey board above (which is where it's getting it's inspiration from).

A super fun little board to ride,

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stunet Monday, 11 Jul 2011 at 9:40am

I've been on a Lazor Zap tip of late. For the last two weeks I've been test riding the Stacey '80's Blast' board featured above and digging the back-foot drives and short-arc jams. It's a hell of a lot of fun. Only problem has been all this damn swell we've been receiving - it really doesn't like size.

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dellabeach Tuesday, 12 Jul 2011 at 1:48am

Lee took design cues from the Lazor Zap's tail - a wide point rushing in via flyers to a swallow with rounded points - but that is all his board owes to McCoy.

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dellabeach Tuesday, 12 Jul 2011 at 1:49am

I suspect this is precisely the reason "it really doesn't like size".
Get Geoff to make you one,problem solved.

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walanator Wednesday, 13 Jul 2011 at 8:19am

i remember my first and only zap it was a 5'8'single fin and i bought it when i was 16. really enjoyed how it handled loved the bouyency and it was great when driving down the line on quick waves. being from prodominantly beach breaks i would have loved to have riden some point waves but found that the board responded better once i removed the single fin and replaced it with a winged keel that cheyne horan used at times. it became more responsive and with lots more speed. my friend still has the board as a collectors item and one day il get back on , its a great history, and as far as boards go, like time will make another cycle of must haves to go with the legend that is geoff mccoy

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saltman Wednesday, 17 Aug 2011 at 10:31pm

I jkeep looking at the board Cheyne is holding - looks like it has an assymetrical tail?
Is that true or just the angle of the photo?

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stunet Wednesday, 17 Aug 2011 at 11:00pm

Think that's just the angle he's holding it Saltman.

Such a radical looking tail though, symmetrical or not. I recently bought a TriZap that was shaped in 1983, looks kinda similar to that but without the spray. Everything about it is so contrary to today's shapes: the width of the tail, the pulled-in nose, the thickness through the front of the board.

I just shake my head at it. Still haven't ridden it. Little bit worried that it may not meet up with expectation.

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deadshaper Monday, 30 Sep 2013 at 11:55am

Watching Geoff talk about the Zap and his Loaded Dome makes perfect sense to me. I was shaping what i called "Ball Bearing Bottoms" in Santa Barbara back in the early to mid 80's unaware of his thinking which, ironically, falls completely in line with mine. Although we don't know each other, much of this 'shared'philosophy I use in my current design project 'The Stoker V Machine'.

BF aka ds

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sam_2 Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 10:29am

Yep the Loaded Dome works. When comparing to how many lightweight modern high performance boards i've ridden with concaves, V dubs and all that, you might think: Geez this looks different - i wonder how it's gonna hold? - But they do. They feel like they're smooth and in the wave - gripping the water and flowing compared to the jerky wobbly HPSB feeling. I felt like i'd just gotten clean, sobered up from a bad addiction. Its a different feeling but a really good one. You go fast and loose but can hold a line. I felt like i had to adjust my surfing and relax a little, go with the wave rather than force turns, and trust the board. Often get comments like -"Getting some good ones - whats that your riding? That goes fast." or stuff like that. My favourite ones go like: "What the Heck is that fin? Did you pass out and leave it in front of the fire last night mate?" The dome and the fins go hand in hand. Geoff makes thruster sets with the gullwing shape too.

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Patrick Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 3:01pm

Hi Sam. What are the dims of the board and what age and weight are you (if you don't mind sharing)?