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Blowin started the topic in Friday, 21 Jun 2019 at 8:01am

Have it cunts

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sypkan Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 11:41am

"How the fuck do they get away with that?"

How the fuck do they get away with it indeed?!!!?

In byron bay of all places....

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 11:45am

Freeride....so Byron bay gets basically nothing. Except extra demand on local infrastructure of course.

Late stage Capitalism as it transitioned into neoliberalism was -“ Socialise the costs , privatise the profits .”

Now that neoliberalism is in full bloom it’s - “ Nationalise and socialise the costs , Globalise and privatise the profits .”

Any opposition to this paradigm is RAYSISST !

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 11:48am

Because Byron went full retard with the neoliberal astroturfing ASAP.

Abandoning your local community for neoliberalism is peddled as wokeness by the MSM and so areas like that are first to fall over each other and give away their children’s futures.

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 12:34pm

And here’s a perfect example.

Our L plated treasurer going to lecture a global audience on how the endless expansion of free trade, foreign “ investment “ ( aka selling the national farm ) and global restrictions on protectionism created growing economies and more jobs.

This despite the Australian experiment of endless expansion of free trade , foreign investment and reduction of protectionism leading to a shrinking economy and less jobs ( with lower pay ).

Go Josh ! Keep ignoring reality and shoot for the moon by going neoliberal full retard !

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/frydenberg-to-press-g20-on-free-...

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mikehunt207 Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 12:37pm

Not to mention the Aus government bending over backward to placate rich chinese students while cutting and dismantling the Tafe and apprenticeship system for young Australians, hardly any young trades in the making and setting ourselves up for a massive skills shortage in the future allowing for more underpaid foreign workers re 457 visas etc forever, the cycle continues.
Dismantled the manufacturing industry and outsourcing everything so we have to import everything and now a future of outsourced labour ahead as well.
WA state Gov pushing tourism so hard despite the fact the infrastructure cant handle and fucking small country towns all over the place , take a look at Byron Bay and that is what Margaret River is becoming for example, full to the brim , traffic jams , city style crowds (and the attitude that comes with that) in the surf, the Shire keeps allowing more and more subdivisions regardless (more city people with city designs, "supertown" mentality. They turned the point into a fucking tourist attraction so you come out of the surf and squeeze through the tourists taking photos of you and flying their fucken drones around your head , what a shitfight, everyday, all year.
I wont even start on the unconstrained and unregulated backpackers and RV crowd living in the best beachfront carparks all day, washing their undies in the sinks and throwing their shit everywhere.
WA soon to be the next Bali and most of us know how that ended up

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 12:43pm

US Democrats debates

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sypkan Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 12:46pm

speaking of useful idiots...

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2020/02/18/australian-universities-coron...

...and a now perverted paradise

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 12:48pm

Oh my fucken god. Even the literal threat of contagion is not enough to stop the greed.

“A second Australian university is now paying Chinese students to bypass travel ban through third countries.

On Friday, the University of Adelaide emailed its 3000 or so Chinese students caught overseas by the ban offering a “care package” worth about $5000.

After being lobbied by the universities, the Australian government will also now allow 8000 students to enter Australia directly from China, and is considering increasing the number further.”

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mikehunt207 Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 12:57pm

They must be laughing their arses off at the "Dumb Aussies". Spending millions on trying to control the spread of a virus and spending millions on helping people get around the same thing....

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 1:58pm

Stu...I Googled Ross Gittins and agree that it’s a bit rough to accuse him of corruption in not speaking out regarding the pitfalls of mass immigration as he has obviously done so previously , but he studiously avoided the mention of it in this instance. An ambiguous and indirect inference doesn’t count when it’s such a pivotal influence on the topic.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 3:03pm

Where does it say the unis are bypassing travel restrictions? Where is the link to Uni of Adelaide doing this? If so OMFG, they've doomed the country.

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 3:15pm

Got that quote from the comments of MacroBusiness.:

From this morning’s paper, Adelaide Uni is also busting the travel ban:

“A second Australian university is now paying Chinese students to bypass travel ban through third countries.

On Friday, the University of Adelaide emailed its 3000 or so Chinese students caught overseas by the ban offering a “care package” worth about $5000.

After being lobbied by the universities, the Australian government will also now allow 8000 students to enter Australia directly from China, and is considering increasing the number further.”

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/coronavirus-university...

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 3:28pm

And there’s this ....hot off the press.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/government-relaxes-travel-ban-for-some-s...

How come students in remote Australia can complete their education via the internet but an unnecessarily Australian high school education of a few students from China is worth jeopardising the health of our nation ?

Because the government is beholden to the CCP. There is no other way to frame it. The government has tried to frame the return of Chinese University students as result of a financial imperative. But that’s obviously not true in this case.

The Chinese consul to Australia has been lobbying the government to allow the return of Chinese students even though universities in China are closed. The CCP needs a Western nation to be infected so as to release China from focus and allow the return of trade with China . The concept is that if the world is infected, quarantines and closed borders are useless so trade may as well resume.

The CCP needs a stable Chinese economy and continued prosperity to justify the social licence of absolute control as granted by the Chinese people. Without this the CCP loses power.

The CCP has turned to the western Government over which it has the most control - Australia- and is trying to knock over the dominos and infect the west.

It looks like Scomo has capitulated to his Chinese masters. The cunt needs to hang.

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 3:37pm

Australia has literally nothing to gain and everything to lose from this.

Any surprise that it’s the Victorian state government behind this ?

Manchurian Dan the premier doing what’s right for his masters in Beijing

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sypkan Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 3:49pm

"“A second Australian university is now paying Chinese students to bypass travel ban through third countries."

How is this stuff even legal? - for a uni to do? ...seriously?!!?

there's way more to this than an economic argument...

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 3:51pm

Jesus.

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sypkan Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 5:43pm

"They must be laughing their arses off at the "Dumb Aussies". Spending millions on trying to control the spread of a virus and spending millions on helping people get around the same thing...."

time to wake up from your slumber of apathy australia

they've been laughing at "dumb aussies" for a long long time now

and now it would be the chinese peoplw who literally cannot believe what's going on...

can't believe their 'luck'

we are so dumb

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 4:02pm

There seems to be endless economic modelling around continued suppression of trade with China.

I want to see the comparative economic modelling of the viral spread throughout Australia when the borders to trade are reopened.

You reckon it’ll be a pretty financial picture when our economy is frozen, the majority of our nation is in lock down and people are losing relatives to the disease ?

I don’t think it will be. And that’s without being able to measure the cost of an unprecedented threat to our society. How will multiculturalism fare when Chinese bring their virus to our shores ?

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 4:10pm

Reposted

“The travel bans are a sham anyhow. I have it from a reliable source that the unis have been exploiting the $1500 backdoor into Oz loophole for a while now. It’s just that it only recently made the mainstream press, as is typical.

One QLD uni has been sacking lower paid staff (no VCs or Subject heads of course), and paying other staff to actively facilitate this loophole – to work with the foreign students to make it happen. I expect other unis are doing similar.

Additionally, there has been a huge increase in the numbers of prospective students from you know where urgently seeking to get out of there and into here.

This could turn out to be the biggest boost to our unis’ business plan of choice in ages.

And you don’t seriously think they’re just coming for the high quality education, do you….?“

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 4:17pm

OK, so how this might play out is, in certain school groups, give it between 9 and 24, maybe 42, maybe 93 (yes, there was a case of onset 93 days after initial exposure), some - but not all, most will be OK - of the Chinese HS students will come down with CV. By then the classroom - close proximity - will have been exposed and soon after some others in class, or teachers will come down with it. Meanwhile, they, and their spouses, kids, have been out in the community and anyone who may be infected may also be infectious without showing symptoms.

How do you lock down Sydney or Melbourne?

What then may happen, much the the LNP's chagrin, is that all economic activity will take a hit of Hulk size proportions. We're talking everything, tourism, coal, services, unis (they will go to lockdown, turn to page 42 of 'Diamond Princess' to see how this adventure pans out). If you look at China right now, there's been an excellent series of articles - no real estate sales rebound from CNY's nadir, electricity generation 33% down, traffic no rebound, pollution (measures industrial output) no rebound, JIT supply chains shot to shit. The economy will take a very, very big hit on the LNP & state gov decision - and people will get sick and some die. How will domestic air look? Anyway, good luck all of you. And a big thank you to all of you from me, you've helped me without knowing it, so thank you so very much. How to respond with this coming? Serene meditation or hookers and blow? Go to work or surf until exhausted? That reminds me, time to put in an order for waves with Craig...

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 4:46pm

Just how much is China shut down ? The Chinese government tells us that things are under control. What does Australia have to look forward to when we similarly have things “ under control “ ?






But it’ll definitely be worth it if those few hundred high school students from China learn the basically useless ex-fundamental education provided to year 11/ 12 students in Australia instead of learning it 8000 kms closer to their homes !

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 6:32pm

Nick Carroll - for all he does not give a fuck - has come full circle in my appraisal of him.

Surf ads continues to validate.

From Beachgrit ( Site mostly concerned with the garnishment of views as opposed to dignified content. Purveyors of non - endemic SHARK !!! based web hits. Suppository of under-remunerated talent Derek Reilly and over- confident typist Chas Smith*)

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"Role" as in "lost at sea and clinging to Kelley like the poor cunt is a life raft"

I mean, really. It's like the NBA trying to "break through" with their "youth sport" by doing endless documentaries about Michael Jordan.

Eventually it's going to dawn on these people that they bought a world tour, that's all they bought, and they best figure out how to get it to make more money, because right now it's the only thing earning them any money at all.
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@surfads Nick Carroll • 11 hours ago • edited
They think they bought a content farm. With which theycan build an owned audience that can be directly marketed to. From their website: 'we are the gateway to one of the most desirable audiences on the planet. Our fans over index in being healthy, adventurous, authentic, Eco-conscious.' I'm not even making this shit up. https://www.worldsurfleague...

But their fans don't give two fucks about surfing, they just want to see meatheads getting poleaxed at giant Nazare with the ocassional sly tit shot.

And the only corporate partnerships they can sign are with the likes of IKEA and the fucken hairweaver pro.

Fuck this guy and all he stands for.“

* Obviously that’s not fair. I’ve purchased both of Smith’s books . I understand he’s probably consumed by authorship which actually pays as opposed to dedication to beachgrit . But his complete inability to view surfing through any lens which doesn’t involve bro , brah , industry, bro , contract , brah , surf celebrity , days preceding ( but inevitably involving ) bro brah industry celebrity contracts just wears way too thin.

In the decade that I’ve read Smith’s stuff I’ve yet to read a word about surfing that wasn’t a milk run day trip or a branded run to Central America .

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Blowin Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 8:28pm

Imagine if this cockhead turned up out of nowhere, moved into your house and started trying to tell you what you could and couldn’t do ?

Yep , that’s what he’s trying to do to 25 million Australians.

A head made for slapping . Tell me those cheeks weren’t made to be given a full- force open palmed , splayed finger slap.

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 9:19pm

Summary:

South Korea reported 142 new cases, up 70% in one day, to 346; The country also reported its second death.
China reported 397 new cases, bringing the total cases to 76,288, and an additional 109 new deaths or 2,345 in total.
Italy reports 1st virus death, 15 additional cases, 10 cities on lockdown
34 cases in USA.
China pledges to build 19 new hospitals in Wuhan
Hawaii hasn't tested any suspected cases in the state
253 more passengers depart the diamond princess as 11 of 13 American evacuees in Nebraska test positive
Local authorities in China warn people will be punished for not returning to work if ordered
WHO's Tedros: Window for confronting virus rapidly closing
CDC says virus tremendous health threat, warns more human to human transmission of the virus in the US likely
First case declared in Lebanon
Iran confirms 9 more cases as virus reaches Tehran
South Korea reported massive jump in cases on Friday as total climbed to 204
Global Times insinuates that US might be covering up coronavirus cases
Health officials in Hubei 'apologize' for changing case confirmation 'criteria'

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/cases-covid-19-south-korea-double...

notice the bit about being punished if not returning to work. TSHTF in SKorea. And 19 new hospitals in Wuhan. I need a whiskey.

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sypkan Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 9:49pm

"HONG KONG — An alarming surge of new coronavirus cases outside China, with fears of a major outbreak in Iran, is threatening to transform the contagion into a global pandemic"

"...While the source of the outbreak in Iran could not be pinned down, officials speculated that it began in the large population of Chinese workers in the country.

Critics accused the government of playing down the disease, and failing to take strict precautions to prevent its arrival in the country, in order to avoid provoking China, a key trading partner and a lifeline for Iran’s economy in the face of U.S. sanctions."

sounds familiar, ...very familiar,...a little too close to home you might say...

"... an epidemiological modeling team from Imperial College in London estimated Friday that two-thirds of the people infected with coronavirus who left mainland China before restrictions were imposed had traveled throughout the world without being detected.

The almost random nature of new reports and new deaths is an indication the virus is moving much faster than countries are reporting to the W.H.O., Dr. Osterholm said."

"very worriesome", "alarming", "random" and "moving much faster" say the WHO dudes

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/world/asia/china-coronavirus-iran.htm... Stories&pgtype

meanwhile in oz...

"...Federal Health Minister Greg Hunt said medical authorities believed the virus had been contained in Australia and was slowing globally."

"...Professor Murphy said allowing a small number of people in from mainland China would not pose a significant risk.

"The good news in the last few weeks from mainland China has been that there have been very, very few exported cases of this disease from mainland China — the last official count I saw was only about six," he said.

so it's all... 'no significan risk', 'authorities believe', and no worries down here in oz

nothing to see here...

astounding

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-22/coronavirus-ban-lifted-student...

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sypkan Saturday, 22 Feb 2020 at 9:51pm

... and I'll add,

four days ago it was WHO that were getting caned in the press for being china's gimp ..

go australia!

you're good at what you do

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freeride76 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 8:48am

Off topic but if you want to see the absolute definition of polishing a turd take a moment to tune into the WSL Noosa longboard open.

4 mals surfing onshore 1-2ft beach break, twenty people on the beach; and they are broadcasting it and performing heroically in the booth trying to make it exciting.

it's actually bizarre.

edit: I thought the Noosa Longboard Comp was part of that festival of surfing thing that Phil Jarratt ran. Is that not happening anymore?

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Blowin Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 11:02am

“Big blast to finish ! “ as a mal rider angles the nose over 1 foot of incoming greywash .

Makes me feel strangely sad . The same vibe of quiet desperation I get when I walk past the small coastal town ice creamery on a cold and overcast winters day , the zinc- clad holidaymakers long gone and months away from returning. The way the proprietor waves feverishly at me as though we are in it together and as if the slight madness and inappropriate familiarity expressed through his too wide smile would draw me into his parlour to purchase an armful of double scoop waffle cones.

Like Pennywise luring children into storm drains with brightly coloured balloons.

Apart from that it could be a fun day at Noosa. Big points on the inside if you can get through the Coles car park sized dead section between sandbanks.

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freeride76 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 11:29am

The almost total lack of self-awareness of how farcical is it to pretend that what they are doing is some kind of sport is strangely compelling.

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sypkan Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 12:32pm

'strangely compelling' is what it is.

I got totally drawn in there for a moment and couldn't turn it off. couldn't work out if it was meditative, schadenfraude or pity...

but I think it was more about what would not happen next, and how they'd spin that nothing into something super special...

oohhhh nice, smooth, nice footwork, crisp, clean, crossover, drop knee, etc. etc.

I think I must be missing the nuance of longboardng

but it held my attention about as long as a normal comp. does though... so a win for WSL there...

but then again, I always feel I'm winning, when WSL is clearly pissing money away flogging a dead horse for the in crowd

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Optimist Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 1:53pm

Thanks Swellnet for posting that great pic of Nationals today. Brings back so many memories of some of the best surfs in my life over many years since 1975 when I first surfed it. By the way it used to be $3 a night for a room then in the old beach house right on Noosa main beach or if you were a bit broke, free to camp down the end of Hastings st. at the woods. Its a bit dearer now and a few more guys out. There was back in the day a vege burger place called Harvest in Hastings st. to chow on after very long sessions. At the end of a hard pumping day, it would be up to the pub on the hill for cold ale and sunsets...I miss those days sometimes but not the boards...The boards were crap.

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oceans11 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 4:25pm

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My first encounter with Noosa was 1971,arriving the day before a predicted cyclone was to brush past the coast.We were going to camp in the woods but chose to rent a small Unit in Hastings St., as you mentioned very cheap.
Brought new short single fin and twin fin boards with us and took home battered boards(no leg ropes back then),but had a trip of life time as Noosa pumped for 3 weeks ( the cyclones stayed off the coast, almost stationary which produced the never ending swell.
When we were there "Dino's Diner was the place to eat and yes we went to the pub on the hill most nights. One night a couple of guys had mud crabs, claws tied up crawling around the pub floor.
Made buddies with a couple of Sydney guys that camped in an old Commer van and took a liking to the mushies. Each day after a night on the mushies they would tell us about the goblins they chased around Nationals car park.
Like wise ,I have had many memorable surfs at the points since then, but the many surfs we had at Tea tree with no one else out during that Cyclone was unforgettable.
The boards back then were average but were a vast improvement on the boards I learnt on, the previous 6 years, like the 9' 0''log , the 8'0" cut off wide tail vee bottom and then a 7'3" multi concave experimental board.
The high performance thrusters currently around are highly refined so I find it really difficult to see why people chose to surf all the weird boards around that perform like shit especially mals.

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freeride76 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 4:31pm

boards with trim surf better than most high performance thrusters at Noosa is why.

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sypkan Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 5:33pm

it seems just talking about a carbon pricing mechanism would too much programmatic specificity for labor and albo...

as I said, the left is experiencing language problems across the board

and this seems especially a problem for albo - on so many levels... the man cannot get a single coherent sentence out, too much contriving and contorting on the run going on it would seem?

can anyone at all - even the most partisan minions - watch that video and think those answers were adequate?

that's modern politics it seems

....and albo is just as full of shit as smoko... he's just less competent at it

https://www.abc.net.au/insiders/anthony-albanese-joins-insiders/11992212

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sypkan Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 5:37pm

... I'm starting to miss bilI...

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oceans11 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 6:04pm

freeride76,
It depends who's surfing them, the more competent guys and girls around here rip Noosa's points to pieces when its over 3ft.
On the other hand surfers that surf mals and other hipster boards, their surfing is mediocre at best. These boards will always be limiting whereas thrusters (good ones) the skies the limit with practice and perseverance. My opinion anyway.

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lostdoggy Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 6:13pm

Noosa has some amazing mal riders.
Definitely not mediocre, (though there are plenty of them there too haha)

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oceans11 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 6:26pm

I guess what I'm saying is that amazing short board surfing is far more exciting, radical, faster, entertaining,creative,etc.etc and the participants more likely to surf 6-10 ft Sunshine beach when it is pumping, than long boarders and hipsters.

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oceans11 Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 6:40pm

Blowin,
I'm with you on your comments re.Coronavirus and keeping Australia,s boarders closed.
Just read an article suggesting that the virus was inadvertently/ accidentally released from the Wuhan development Laboratory and that CCP has sent a directive to the facilities to tighten their security procedures when dealing with these viruses.

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 6:43pm

@ sypkan

Just watched it, it wasn't that bad, he is much more realistic and balanced than Bill was.

No new coal power stations, off course not. tick

Will we still export coal to 2050, if the market is there then highly likely. tick.

Carbon tax, no need for one. tick.

Then still balanced things out with a few things people want to hear that are IMHO unlikeky exporting energy or implied retail energy prices will come down.

Actually mentioned the economy, did a little rib poking of Scomo, but didn't go overboard.

Problem is although it's all toned down more realistic and balanced and even though he is more likeable than Bill, he still comes off as kinda vanilla and bland, maybe needs a little more edge somehow.

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sypkan Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 7:27pm

I've gotta be honest indod, I didn't see it all, but what I saw where spiers was trying ti get a straight answer out if him, and albo just kept going around and around sprouting gobbily gook was just embarrassing.... for all involived

it sounds reasonable what you got out of it, but I can't see albo being the one to deliver it, he comes across as a bumbling fool well out of his depth

which makes me think maybe, possibly, shorten actually was some of the best talent labor have got

terrifying...

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AndyM Sunday, 23 Feb 2020 at 9:21pm

“a pandemic is very likely, if not inevitable”

Interesting.

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Distracted Monday, 24 Feb 2020 at 12:18am

Looks like corona virus has taken off in Italy and they don’t know “patient zero” where it started, so will be very hard to contain... pandemic here we come?

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sypkan Monday, 24 Feb 2020 at 9:40am

...it seems even the guardian has given up on their propensity to protect the 'other' at all costs...

countries are 'scrambling', as the world approaches a 'tipping point' and 'the disease is outpacing efforts to contain it'

"...Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, director general of the World Health Organization (WHO), said the international community needed to act quickly before the narrowing “window of opportunity” closed completely."

all sweet down here in oz though

as the world closes it's borders and desperately searches for solutions, our government is scrambling to facillitate and expediate the importation of thousands of human test tubes

are we really this dumb? or just this desperate?

if we need the cash that much, maybe it's well past time we assess that situation, it appears the gods think so...

smoko is so desperate to keep his wayne swan style evaporating surplus - that he counted way before it even materialised! - he's willing to put the whole country at risk

and it seems labor don't have a single word of significance to say, hobbled? entrenched? complicit? ....all of the above...

how did it come to this?

eggs, basket, ideology, collusion, corruption, stupidity

this is what happens when you have two parties with the same agenda... no effective opposition, no real challenge of ideas, no bloody diversity of thought! ...ironically again...

geez anyone'd think we live in an age of lip service and extreme winner take all capitalism as the world burns...

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Blowin Monday, 24 Feb 2020 at 8:52am

I reckon the CCP has every bit of blackmail dirt it needs on our political class . This goes beyond corruption, ineptitude, ideology, commitment to globalisation and plain ignorance.

When our Chief Medical Officer is saying that a “ cost/ benefit analysis “ of protecting our population from a spreading pandemic has resulted in prioritising the high school studies of foreigners then you know that there’s some suspect shit going down.

The economic benefits of holding a live fire experiment into importing potential viral spreaders of such a low contributing nature as high school students does not bear scrutiny.

The Chinese consul has been lobbying government to relax border controls so that some high school students can enter Australia to receive an education easily attainable in China or on the internet......why ?

If this was a viral outbreak which threatened an Australian agricultural/ livestock industry the thought of bringing in potential viral carriers wouldn’t be entertained for a second , but carriers which may endanger human lives .....no problem.

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Blowin Monday, 24 Feb 2020 at 9:01am

It’s got nothing to do with a surplus and everything to do with CCP control of our political class.

ALP is just as owned as the LNP.

Julie Bishop - that smiling darling of feminism and the MSM - is vice chancellor of the Australian National University and she was also the recipient of $450,000 under the Chinese Julie Bishop Glorious Foundation ( yes, that’s its actual name )- how compromised is she and what is she paid to do exactly?

She is just an example.....our entire political and managerial class is the same.

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sypkan Monday, 24 Feb 2020 at 9:43am

I agree, there's much more going on, it just doesn't add up

especially when australia has had the strictest border protections in the world. so strict in fact, it's actually a bit embarrassing when you have overseas visitors. and now they're gonna undo all that deacades of good work for a few hundred high school students?

makes no sense

Imagine how much dirt china has on our politicians - both sides!.

the icac, the farms, the water, runways, ports, factories, dairies, uni's, etc.... decades of dodgy deals

they could take out just about anyone...