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thermalben started the topic in Tuesday, 28 Feb 2012 at 6:47pm

Alright, time for some discussion on what yr all listening too. My iTunes inventory is getting a little stale so I'm up for some inspiration.

Currently loving The Drones' album "Havilah".. incredible songwriting and some of the best recorded guitars and drum I've heard in a long time. I'm a little late to the party with this album but it's on high rotation at the moment and will probably stay there a while. I've seen these guys live once (Fowlers, Adelaide) and fortunately they're incredible on stage too. Can't wait to see them again.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 28 Jul 2020 at 10:52am

Onya TBB, watched 'Monkey Grip' again recently with a soundtrack comprised of all the Divinyls early singles and Chrissy of the big brown eyes playing herself up on screen.

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 28 Jul 2020 at 12:03pm

Apologies in advance but who didn't rock out just a little to the Gunners?

Batfink reminded me of this track over in the covid thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isCh4kCeNYU

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factotum commented Tuesday, 28 Jul 2020 at 1:38pm

Coincidences, connections, and obscure off-the-top-of-my-head factoids abound!

I saw an old Spicks n Specks the other night. The game: three musos. Guess the connecting factor. The musos being: Ray Davies of The Kinks; Sid Vicious; Jim Kerr of Simple Minds.

The connecting factor? Chrissie Hynde.

A child and almost marriage with Ray (they got turned away from the registry and told to go home and have a think about it!)

An almost marriage with Sid (so Chrissie could get UK citizenship. Registry office was closed).

And full marriage and youngster with Jimbo.

Regarding Siouxie, heard about her torrid pursuit and capture of Hank Rollins during the first Lollapalooza tour?

Anyway, getting away from the blokey stuff, and with a tenuous Butch Vig connection, of course these two are besties. They've toured together and all.

And definitely catch Monkey Grip if you can. A lost(!) time and place. Good read too.

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blackers commented Tuesday, 28 Jul 2020 at 2:28pm

Some fun stuff to lift your spirits TBB. Riffing on some input back a bit, with some light back story reading.

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/jul/08/iconic-festival-sets-sonic...

https://www.smh.com.au/culture/music/drugs-myths-and-the-birth-of-punk-l...

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Snuffy Smith commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:25am

Before the excess?

Balls of fire

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stunet commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 12:21pm

Kinda sounds familar though don't it?

A little like that band from Liverpool getting around at the same time.

Prefer the excess...

Anywho, something very different:

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blowfly commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 1:40pm

Entwhistle and Moon made sure that The Who never sounded like The Beatles. The best rhythm section of the sixties.......well outside Motown anyway.

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GreenJam commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 2:03pm

awesome Blackers - I'd seen the Sonic Youth gig footage before but hadnt read that article, or heard of the Desolation Center doco. Will have to check that out.

There was a bit of negative talk about early Sonic Youth on here a bit back in the thread. Yeah, I sort of get that some of their noise is not appreciated, but those early albums where they start to transition to more organised, fluent sound are kick ass I reckon.

Here's a favourite tune that captures a bit of that, actually a bit of everything there is about Sonic Youth. It's in that desert live set too. Crank it, it rocks!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqe7a-WIQG0

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blackers commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 3:25pm

Cheers GreenJam, the doco is fantastic. Provides another couple for the "gigs I wish I'd been at" list. Along with the "Live at GooseLake" gig by the Stooges (album out next week apparently).
Death Valley 69 is a killer track, scuze the pun.

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indo-dreaming commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 4:05pm

Thats some pretty hardcore Sonic youth territory although Death Valley 69 is one of the their better early songs,

This dropped last week, pretty good mix of classic oldish an newish SY.

First song is a great example of where they started getting that mix right between experimental and more organised assessable sound .

Second song is good example of more accessible straightforward latter stuff

Two bassist?...hmmm

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factotum commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 4:59pm

As Tufnel said, "what's wrong with being excess-y?"

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stunet commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 6:43pm

Nothing, but you cant be excessist.

Now, Thurston Moore, Mike Watt, Richard Hell, and squid, with references to the Desolation Center. 

Outtake from 'We Jam Econo: The Story of the Minutemen' - who played the very first Desolation Center gig.

And no Mr Guradian Rock Writer, they weren't post-punk.

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keano commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 9:37pm

86'

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blackers commented Wednesday, 29 Jul 2020 at 10:16pm

Great link Keano, Closing the circle. A much under appreciated band. Ragin full on is an all time fave album. From the ashes of the Minutemen, amazing bass playing.

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factotum commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:09am
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blackers commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 8:20am

I will raise your connections facto.

Sorry folks, lockdown is doing my head in.

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indo-dreaming commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 9:07am

Anyone know what happened to Natas?

About that period he was the main man in street skating, Rodney was still doing his freestyle thing and most guys still on ramp.

I kind of went from skating to full on surfing about then, just before decks went narrow and street skating took off, so never really followed it and then with the internet got an insight again Tony and Mullen still influential but Natas gone and forgotten, that's the first flash back I've seen of his since then.

Im sure there is some story, will have too google it latter.

BTW. I remember the Christians being upset as his name backwards spells Satan

PS. Just watched the whole vid, fuck crazy to think thats over 30 years ago on a deck thats wide and heavy, he was so far ahead at that stage imagine him on a narrow lighter board...dude doesn't seem to get the credit he deserves.

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stunet commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 9:12am

Don't know if I'm further raising your connections Blackers or dumbing them down, but call it another history lesson.

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stunet commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 9:14am

Natas worked for Quik for years doing graphics. There was a TSJ from a few years ago on his art which also showed him surfing.

EDIT: Now working for Birdswell.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/natas-kaupas-51786a3

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Fraser G commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 9:41am

Indo Natas gets kudos from those in the know...same with Gonz...Check this guy mate...Big ups to Natas...

Now for a classic tune and a bit of a quiz...who can name all of these icons in one vid...great tune too..

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stunet commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 9:49am

Yoko of course, Warhol near the end, same with Miles Davis shooting hoops, could be Fred Astaire with the sharp chin being led into the room, and it could be Marshall McLuhan just afterwards.

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zenagain commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 10:50am

I got Warhol.

George Harrison towards the beginning?

Way better than me Stu.

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 11:17am

What about the producer cum murderer at the start?

And then there's Dick!

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 11:19am

My most interesting Cavett moment...and his most discussed and analysed.

Well worth a watch and reaction.

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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zenagain commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 11:27am

Phil Spectre?

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 11:32am

"A spectre is haunting Lennon...and the spectre is Spector!" - Karl Marx

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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zenagain commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 11:55am

That was brilliant. Two diametrically opposed men of a fierce intellect. The language was beautiful.

I kinda got a feeling they actually liked each other.

And the old bird and the rug tied the room together nicely.

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zenagain commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 11:58am

Phil Spector- gotcha.

Sumimasen.

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Dale -Cooper commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:18pm

Here's a flat-day, bored-at-work experiment. Knowledge, experience, reality and perception.

The Vidal/Mailer interview stoush above. Watch (warning: it isn't Kochie/Karl and Pauline).

Then read the post-stoush analysis (and more!) written by Mailer:

https://classic.esquire.com/article/1977/11/1/of-a-small-and-modest-mali...

Then some early Vidal on Mailer:

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-norman-mailer-syndrome-by-gore-v...

"I kinda got a feeling they actually liked each other."

Perceptive, Zen.

A later interview between the two (then much older) literary lions:

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/books/interviews/a15145/gore-vidal...

US mainstream culture-shock!

“The dog leg. That dog had four legs. One you found in my trunk. The other three went out with the information you're thinking about right now. Two people you don't want coming around here if anything bad happens to me.”

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zenagain commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 1:05pm

Gosh, I wish I had some more time but the reading is equally as intriguing as the tv interview.

I like some of your stuff Facto- you make me learn good.

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factotum commented Thursday, 30 Jul 2020 at 5:06pm
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blackers commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 3:03pm

Those interviews are hilarious Facto. The Statler andWaldorf of American literature..

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zenagain commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 5:05pm

Blackers, the Esquire article is awesome and provides a lot of background to bring the whole Cavett segment into context. It's a bit of a slog but worth reading and then watching again.

I wouldn't go as far as saying it's a piece of tv history (whatever that may be), but it was certainly special imo.

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blackers commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 5:53pm

Cheers Zen, I was actually basing my comment on the later Esquire interview. Funny stuff, they just can't help themselves. But as you say the read is worth the effort. Haven't had a chance to watch the clips but do recall seeing bits and pieces here and there. Will find some time this weekend to watch them.

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 7:25pm

Just watched this Natas docco it's from 2003 but still pretty good, fuck he has been a busy man also seems like a nice guy plus very clued on and shit he even surf's pretty good and a decent artist.

Well worth a watch.

Cool to see the Gonz too.

PS. Couldn't access that Linken link Stu as dont have an account.

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factotum commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 7:32pm

OF A SMALL AND MODEST MALIGNANCY, WICKED AND BRISTLING WITH DOTS above is a long essay cum short volume about the interview incident, TV in general, and communication in total. A good and interesting intro to Mailer if you've never partaken.

The king, knave, and jester of American life and letters. A holy fool.

As Mailer once wrote about himself: “To be the center of any situation was, he sometimes thought, the real marrow of his bone—better to expire as a devil in the fire than an angel in the wings!”

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blackers commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 10:20pm

No denying his talents. Superb wordsmith, super ego.
But in these COVID lockdown times I keep looking for puerile (musical) connections from happier days.

Grebo anyone?

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keano commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 11:29pm

i came back into the conversation on Tuesday in the mike watt/firehose part of this thread after a massive weekend with old mates and disappeared down a L.A. 80/90's rabbit hole that if anyone can be bothered......

https://youtu.be/f4mWuIUC3Tk

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keano commented Friday, 31 Jul 2020 at 11:21pm
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blowfly commented Sunday, 2 Aug 2020 at 7:55pm

The best pub band ever!

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mattlock commented Sunday, 2 Aug 2020 at 11:41pm

Spencer RIP.
Pre white hat but has the white strat.

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blowfly commented Monday, 3 Aug 2020 at 8:35am

matlock I couldn't find a video for that song so I just strung together some frame grabs from their videos and a few images from a Google search which means it isn't exactly anywhere on their timeline.