Swellnet and politics
I don't like Barnaby on our team. No humility whatsoever and no respect for his team. I wish he would go away. Don't go away angry Barnaby just go away.
Hindsight as we know is a beautiful thing, looking back on things we can almost always see things so much clearer.
Reality is Howard was correct there was a problem developing with boat arrivals and lack of border security, the numbers show that especially moving into the Rudd/Gillard era, no body can deny that, its just reality.
The world stats on refugees increasing confirms why, and then adding other factors like the internet and easy sharing of information are certainly factors in pushing things further.
Yeah sure by all means there is argument that Howard support of military involvement in the middle east didn't help things (although i think there is a much more complex issue there that i don't have the knowledge to even discuss)
BTW. Can you show me where i said "what Howard says is 100% true" i don't recall every saying that, and i can't see where I've written it?
Im curious why do you have an issue with plane arrivals????
Why should the government have an issue with plane arrivals?
(you already know my issue with plane arrivals but its not a view you or the government share)
@LL you could add the AU government's poor response to Timor & West Papua to your list as well as following the US into Vietnam but I see all that as very bad foreign policy failures that saw refugees on the move. Foreign policy failures and migration/refugee policy are linked but very different.
@indo, FS, just reread your posts today, lazy sod! Yes things heated up during Howard's time but rather than reach across the dispatch box and seek bipartisanship from Labor he elected to pander to the lowest common denominator, to counter Hanson, and once that genie was out of the bottle it was never going back. It was Howard's decision to play the race card ... Tampa, kids overboard all in the name of grubby votes and it continues today with Morrison and Dutton.
For the umpteenth time my only interest in tourists arriving here by plane and claiming refugee status is to highlight the staggering hypocrisy and lies surrounding LNP government policy between the two refugee groups. All that bullshit about "child rapists and murderers" demonising refugees on Nauru and Manus, lets reopen Xmas Island to keep Australians safe yet as I have highlighted many times people claiming refugee status off a plane self assess their security clearance. What knucklehead answers those questions honestly if they have committed serious crime? Not even George Pell, an apparent man of God, could answer those questions truthfully.
Okay you interpreted my comment wrong, maybe i worded it badly.
I was talking about Ruddock in that video and his views that everything he says in the video is 100% true, not talking about Howard,i was replying to Blindboy on his views on him.(Ruddock)
"I don't know much about the guy, never followed politics during the Howard era, but everything he says is 100% true, i read your crappy bias Saturday paper and Guardian links so do your self a favour and educate yourself and watch the video from start to finish."
"where i grew up, it was a western liberal democracy based upon christian values. the most important of these values was christ's teaching that we should treat others as we would like to be treated.
these are basic australian cultural values.
some people like skypan, indo dreaming and loungelizard seem to be reject australia's culture and values. why?"
Well chook raffle, that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm not too interested in the christ mumbo jumbo bit, but I'm interested in this universal values bit..."treat others as we would like to be treated."
Which means looking after and rewarding those that are stuck in a shithole camp with no other avenues before rewarding someone who's throwing their money and influence around by cheating the system.
Simple as that mate.
Different priorities, different perspectives. I think you guys are rejecting the aussie culture and values of a fair go, why???
I posted this the other day.
17:20 Dude flees Iran because converts from Islam to Christianity....funny thing is religion isn't now not that important and rarely goes to Church
17:45 Dude is cleary busted....Yep this is how you play the system.
Just saw this video, it's really not that far fetched that Australian refugee advocates are also coaching refugees on Nauru and Manus to game the system.
"As I have observed, those who plow iniquity, and those who sow trouble, reap the same." - Job 4:8
Another Librat gnaws away at the Sinking Ship...
I supersized the resignation list (p2) to include latest Lib deserter MP Craig Laundy
Julian Assange is being expelled from Ecuador Embassy or is he?
Internet/Oz media is in hyperdrive wishing & reporting he has hours now minutes..
tbb is unsure of Business Insider swimming against the tide but seems legit!
Assange has been out and about for years.Google Orville Peck great disguise from Julien but can he keep getting away with it for to much longer.
Why we represent something important!