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Sheepdog started the topic in Friday, 18 Sep 2020 at 11:51am

The "I can't believe it's not politics" thread.

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 10:31am

gosh

Not Ken Henry !

Oh My Stars !!!

Is it Poke Pop Day ?

Ken was worse than Ross and much more stubborn .

Brick Head Ken !

The ONLY property that has a Special Tax rate is The Australian Home ffs .

All Investments need to have the SAME tax rates ffs !

No asset class should be given preference or be singled out for punishment .

That shit distorts markets , always has !

Stop deductions on ALL assets OR shut up !

How about we have a bunch of accountants go to Canberra and do a BIG fn AUDIT of where our EXISTING Tax's are spent .

No judgment , I just want 2 C where the Money Flows .

I said yesterday , let's start with the 30B we are giving to help our FNP .

I KNOW not 30B is getting 2 where it should be going !

Lets do an audit on everything , it should always be done , anyway imho .

Then , if we need more , put up the Consumption Tax .

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 11:08am

I am trying 2 think in what area where we spend big , do we really get a bang for our buck .

One where we KNOW its working effectively and really doing it's job .

Health , Education ?

The Tax Office are the ONLY department I can mention ,

How fn ironical !

The government just spent 450m on a political idea that went sour and was wasted .

They waste a lot of OUR Tax's !

I agree with Packer .

Our government doesn't spend our existing taxes well and I don't think we should be donating Any more Money 2 them. until they clean up their ACT !

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flollo Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 11:14am

I’m fully aligned with you there Pop.

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adam12 Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 12:26pm
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I am trying 2 think in what area where we spend big , do we really get a bang for our buck .

One where we KNOW its working effectively and really doing it's job .

Health , Education ?

The Tax Office are the ONLY department I can mention ,

How fn ironical !

The government just spent 450m on a political idea that went sour and was wasted .

They waste a lot of OUR Tax's !

I agree with Packer .

Our government doesn't spend our existing taxes well and I don't think we should be donating Any more Money 2 them. until they clean up their ACT !

More bad news for you @Pop, just been reading they are going to spend millions more promoting Stage 3 tax changes, probably all the spend around election time I reckon.
Both sides do this shit, State Govts. too.
Mind you the stories around Dutton handing billions to Paladin and Canstruct win the prize this week.
Did you check the stink yacht the Paladin crook bought himself? Made $350K profit per DAY out of Aust. Taxpayers, no tenders, no oversight, contracts handed to $8 shelf company with no employees, no experience and connections to money laundering, drug trafficking, etc.
Great country for some.
PS. not poking any bear last night here, just patting/ gentle slap for a bear cub with mental issues.

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ashsam Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 12:33pm

There would be blood in the streets if they came clean on who gets a share of the $30B

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 12:48pm
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I am trying 2 think in what area where we spend big , do we really get a bang for our buck .

One where we KNOW its working effectively and really doing it's job .

Health , Education ?

The Tax Office are the ONLY department I can mention ,

How fn ironical !

The government just spent 450m on a political idea that went sour and was wasted .

They waste a lot of OUR Tax's !

I agree with Packer .

Our government doesn't spend our existing taxes well and I don't think we should be donating Any more Money 2 them. until they clean up their ACT !

More bad news for you @Pop, just been reading they are going to spend millions more promoting Stage 3 tax changes, probably all the spend around election time I reckon.
Both sides do this shit, State Govts. too.
Mind you the stories around Dutton handing billions to Paladin and Canstruct win the prize this week.
Did you check the stink yacht the Paladin crook bought himself? Made $350K profit per DAY out of Aust. Taxpayers, no tenders, no oversight, contracts handed to $8 shelf company with no employees, no experience and connections to money laundering, drug trafficking, etc.
Great country for some.
PS. not poking any bear last night here, just patting/ gentle slap for a bear cub with mental issues.

You referring to Craig Thrupp? Or other bloke?
Knew Craig living in Bali, on surface a nice bloke, ex-military, he surfed and trained BJJ with him.
Knew he was doing something at Manus, but no idea about extent of his ventures.
Friendlijordies did a great expose on Dutton and some of his dodgy associates, funny MSM never followed it up, wonder why??

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adam12 Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 1:10pm

@andy-mac "You referring to Craig Thrupp? "

Yeah Andy, that's the guy. Nice guy, nice fkn boat! Nice little earner he got himself off the taxpayer too.
Not completely up on all the facts and characters, just some skim reading was enough to make me feel a bit crook, not really going down that rabbit hole either in case it makes me throw up.
Dutton is a flog and the Westminster pillar of Ministerial Responsibility a joke in Australia these days. Got JW Howard to thank for that. Amazing how they pry open the crypt and wheel that old fucker out to stimulate the base still. The damage that guy did to this country is immeasurable.
Bet @Pop thinks otherwise, I know he's a big Tony Abbot fan.
We may be old mates but don't agree on plenty, that's one for sure.
As for training BJJ with Thrupp andy, that means you've cuddled him a bit on the mat? Was he any good? (at BJJ I mean, not cuddling), is he a surfer?
Edit. Yep, Friendly Jordies was onto Dutton way back. No MSM dared touch it, too scared of getting sacked, or maybe sued. Dutts is a defamation cowboy, thin skinned for such a "tough" guy.
Would love to know how an ex drug squad copper who went into politics accumulated his wealth.

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 1:30pm

OMG

Macca and Adam 12 are poking , together , me :)

Ok !

I got through 3.05 minutes of this sensational BS , and had 2 stop .

He explained the Political Systems dealings and how ALL Parties have Donors ffs .

Think Lindsay Fox and his friendship with Dan Andrews .

Eddie got Dutton to appear in a fn add ( an Australian company , think Qantas ) and it's a Dark Bad Arse Plot to bring down Australia FFS .

Eddies business structure is normal for a wealthy family .

Foxy has a lot more than 100m turnover in his business !!!

The guy should check out Foxy and he will get a friendly reception .

Why focus on the past when our current PM , is the one that needs 2 change things .

The 3.05 minutes seeing him was a waste of my time .

I wonder who paid him 2 produce this shit ?
Kid stuff .

I hardly know anything about Peter as he wasn't Treasurer .

With all the bile being thrown at him by the Left , I am glad I started taking some notice of this chap .

If he has Abbotts True Grit ( isn't he doing well at Fox ( not Lindsay but Rupert ( the BIG Fox ) ) ) he IS 1 2 watch , 4 sure !!!

ffs A 12 - Albo's honeymoon is well and truely over , but good luck 2 them .

Let's fly them somewhere nice , perhaps , on the house !!!

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adam12 Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 1:22pm
Pop Down wrote:

OMG

I got through 3.05 minutes of this sensational BS , and had 2 stop .

He explained the Political Systems dealings and how ALL Parties have Donors ffs .

Think Lindsay Fox and his friendship with Dan Andrews .

Eddie got Dutton to appear in a fn add ( an Australian company , think Qantas ) and it's a Dark Bad Arse Plot to bring down Australia FFS .

Eddies business structure is normal for a wealthy family .

Foxy has a lot more than 100m turnover in his business !!!

The guy should check out Foxy and he will get a friendly reception .

Why focus on the past when our current PM , is the one that needs 2 change things .

The 3.05 minutes seeing him was a waste of my time .

Kid stuff .

@Pop, yeah, nah.
I've looked at a bit of Jordan Shanks' work and plenty of it is solid.
He does have a bit of a childish style that can grate a bit, but he's got some runs on the board and at great personal risk, not just from being sued but his house got firebombed.
He's ruffled some feathers that definitely needed plucking in his time.
A ballsy little dude and provides something that is lacking in our insipid 4th estate IMO.
Not surprised you don't like him though.
Agree Albo has plenty more to do, but he's in love and just got engaged again. I'll give him a day off.
(There's still hope for you btw if he can do it)

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 1:32pm
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@andy-mac "You referring to Craig Thrupp? "

Yeah Andy, that's the guy. Nice guy, nice fkn boat! Nice little earner he got himself off the taxpayer too.
Not completely up on all the facts and characters, just some skim reading was enough to make me feel a bit crook, not really going down that rabbit hole either in case it makes me throw up.
Dutton is a flog and the Westminster pillar of Ministerial Responsibility a joke in Australia these days. Got JW Howard to thank for that. Amazing how they pry open the crypt and wheel that old fucker out to stimulate the base still. The damage that guy did to this country is immeasurable.
Bet @Pop thinks otherwise, I know he's a big Tony Abbot fan.
We may be old mates but don't agree on plenty, that's one for sure.
As for training BJJ with Thrupp andy, that means you've cuddled him a bit on the mat? Was he any good? (at BJJ I mean, not cuddling), is he a surfer?
Edit. Yep, Friendly Jordies was onto Dutton way back. No MSM dared touch it, too scared of getting sacked, or maybe sued. Dutts is a defamation cowboy, thin skinned for such a "tough" guy.
Would love to know how an ex drug squad copper who went into politics accumulated his wealth.

He can surf, but nothing special.
Cuddled him quite a bit, I was beating him on the mat back then around 2012, but reckon he would kill me now. I no longer train as time/work/kid factors and my knees were starting to be an issue and surfing is a lot more important to me so after a few injuries I stopped. Enjoyed it more in Bali than the dojo here. Craig still going, think he has jumped a few belts now, he's a big guy and I guess would be an animal on the mat now.
His suss dealings aside, he seemed like a good friendly bloke. Bali full of opportunists....

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 1:32pm
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@andy-mac "You referring to Craig Thrupp? "

Yeah Andy, that's the guy. Nice guy, nice fkn boat! Nice little earner he got himself off the taxpayer too.
Not completely up on all the facts and characters, just some skim reading was enough to make me feel a bit crook, not really going down that rabbit hole either in case it makes me throw up.
Dutton is a flog and the Westminster pillar of Ministerial Responsibility a joke in Australia these days. Got JW Howard to thank for that. Amazing how they pry open the crypt and wheel that old fucker out to stimulate the base still. The damage that guy did to this country is immeasurable.
Bet @Pop thinks otherwise, I know he's a big Tony Abbot fan.
We may be old mates but don't agree on plenty, that's one for sure.
As for training BJJ with Thrupp andy, that means you've cuddled him a bit on the mat? Was he any good? (at BJJ I mean, not cuddling), is he a surfer?
Edit. Yep, Friendly Jordies was onto Dutton way back. No MSM dared touch it, too scared of getting sacked, or maybe sued. Dutts is a defamation cowboy, thin skinned for such a "tough" guy.
Would love to know how an ex drug squad copper who went into politics accumulated his wealth.

He can surf, but nothing special.
Cuddled him quite a bit, I was beating him on the mat back then around 2012, but reckon he would kill me now. I no longer train as time/work/kid factors and my knees were starting to be an issue and surfing is a lot more important to me so after a few injuries I stopped. Enjoyed it more in Bali than the dojo here. Craig still going, think he has jumped a few belts now, he's a big guy and I guess would be an animal on the mat now.
His suss dealings aside, he seemed like a good friendly bloke. Bali full of opportunists....

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 1:36pm
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OMG

I got through 3.05 minutes of this sensational BS , and had 2 stop .

He explained the Political Systems dealings and how ALL Parties have Donors ffs .

Think Lindsay Fox and his friendship with Dan Andrews .

Eddie got Dutton to appear in a fn add ( an Australian company , think Qantas ) and it's a Dark Bad Arse Plot to bring down Australia FFS .

Eddies business structure is normal for a wealthy family .

Foxy has a lot more than 100m turnover in his business !!!

The guy should check out Foxy and he will get a friendly reception .

Why focus on the past when our current PM , is the one that needs 2 change things .

The 3.05 minutes seeing him was a waste of my time .

Kid stuff .

@Pop, yeah, nah.
I've looked at a bit of Jordan Shanks' work and plenty of it is solid.
He does have a bit of a childish style that can grate a bit, but he's got some runs on the board and at great personal risk, not just from being sued but his house got firebombed.
He's ruffled some feathers that definitely needed plucking in his time.
A ballsy little dude and provides something that is lacking in our insipid 4th estate IMO.
Not surprised you don't like him though.
Agree Albo has plenty more to do, but he's in love and just got engaged again. I'll give him a day off.
(There's still hope for you btw if he can do it)

Yep, get past the 'humour' of FJ, he has done some of the most courageous journalism in Australia. I'm not a NSWelshamn but he opened the door on crime/ corruption with John Barilaro that led to his house being firebombed twice.
If the video on Dutton was all BS why hasn't Dutton sued for defamation, he went to trouble over tweet by refugee in the past.

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 2:13pm

As the guy seems to have a go , I will applaud him .

Andy , Peter probably didn't mind being called a Bad Arse and we definitely don't want our courts deciding on shit like this imo .

No winners except the lawyers .

Good on Dutton letting it go 2 the keeper as I , and most Australians , have never heard of the Car Company in Qld , as a result .

Sensible chap , it seems !

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 2:33pm
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As the guy seems to have a go , I will applaud him .

Andy , Peter probably didn't mind being called a Bad Arse and we definitely don't want our courts deciding on shit like this imo .

No winners except the lawyers .

Good on Dutton letting it go 2 the keeper as I , and most Australians , have never heard of the Car Company in Qld , as a result .

Sensible chap , it seems !

Agree, reckon he was more concerned with Streisand effect...
Still reckon he's got some dirty little secrets that he wants kept out of public knowledge.

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 2:58pm

Some people I just noted , think Dutton may have accumulated his wealth by selling Drugs .

He was a Policeman and worked in that department .

What a lazy assumption . Ugly mud !

Peter's Work Records and his financial records are beyond reproach .

Why don't U look at Pelosi's ( look at Rice 2 ) wealth accumulation , AFTER becoming a fn Politician ???

Their records are 4 ALL 2 C !

Insider Trading all over the records !

FFS - name 1 Drug Dealer that thinks his mates would not snitch on them if they ran for ANY Office that required scrutiny and normal people 2 vote for them !!!

The journalist would have HIGHLIGHTED this , if he is a good as some think ffs .

Getting grumpy !!!

And Andy , I don't subscribe to the Guardian .

Marry Poppins was a good babysitter .

So NOW he has made a Fortune out of selling Pairs stuff ( people smuggling ???? ) .

Give me a fn break , please .

The more MUD I see from the Left , the harder I have 2 look at , anything .

Dutton now has my full attention .

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 2:44pm
Pop Down wrote:

Some people I just noted , think Dutton may have accumulated his wealth by selling Drugs .

He was a Policeman and worked in that department .

What a lazy assumption . Ugly mud !

Peter's Work Records and his financial records are beyond reproach .

Why don't U look at Pelosi's wealth accumulation , AFTER becoming a fn Politician ???

FFS - name 1 Drug Dealer that thinks his mates would not snitch on them if they ran for ANY Office that required scrutiny and normal people 2 vote for them !!!

The journalist would have HIGHLIGHTED this , if he is a good as some think ffs .

Getting grumpy !!!

Na don't reckon it was selling drugs, but he's not clean.

Au pairs.... etc

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2024/feb/14/peter-dutton-inte...

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 3:22pm

I have not read much about Dutton but said , as a guess , I RECKON 3 days ago , that SN seemed to B having a GO at him .

I wasn't sure why ?

I like an underdog , so declared an new interest in him .

I now hear people reckon he probably didn't sell drugs but he is un clean in other areas , and has his hands in the trough , all over the au pairs ffs .

He is also a Judas .

Gosh , the Left are watching him like a hawk !!!

Gee , ok , we MIGHT have a Real potential Future PM .

Maybe a Hawke type as has proved , as a Copper , he can do a very difficult and important job .

I hated Hawke as a Union Leader ( probably 2 good ) but really came to, first respect him , then like him and love him as a Prime Minister !

Some people thrive in this position .

That's very cool .

Bring on the MUD SN .

It will be fun imho ( I think haha lol ) .

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 3:43pm
Pop Down wrote:

I have not read much about Dutton but said , as a guess , I RECKON 3 days ago , that SN seemed to B having a GO at him .

I wasn't sure why ?

I like an underdog , so declared an new interest in him .

I now hear people reckon he probably didn't sell drugs but he is un clean in other areas , and has his hands in the trough , all over the au pairs ffs .

He is also a Judas .

Gosh , the Left are watching him like a hawk !!!

Gee , ok , we MIGHT have a Real potential Future PM .

Maybe a Hawke type as has proved , as a Copper , he can do a very difficult and important job .

I hated Hawke as a Union Leader ( probably 2 good ) but really came to, first respect him , then like him and love him as a Prime Minister !

Some people thrive in this position .

That's very cool .

Bring on the MUD SN .

It will be fun imho ( I think haha lol ) .

3 Stooges. :)

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 3:57pm

Maybe they were more worried about the AMOC Collapsing .

The real Judas is on the Left above .

Worst PM ever , Abbott never had a chance BUT Dutton does have a chance at becoming a PM .

He doesn't have 2 and should NOT , do anything .

Just continue to let Albo continuing to manage the Country , as he see fit .

An easy job atm !!!

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 5:08pm

Thanks flollo

Only interested in the big stuff .

I have done a fair bit of fine dinning over the years , and not on my personal bill , so won't go there .

I don't even know what seat Dutton holds and guessing he in a Queenslander .

Cheers .

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 5:42pm

A 5 minute check and I c Peter was a descendant of Qld's first Sergeant at Arms , Capt R Coley .

He gave evidence that CONFIRMED the mass poisoning of Aboriginal Australians at Kilroy in 1842 .

Worked in a butchers shop .

Great career in both the drug and family violence dept at the Police .

Had to leave as involved in a terrible car crash when chasing a criminal driving erratically and he rolled his car and spent a week in hospital .

Tried to sue the Insurance Company for damages but later dropped it ( 250K ) .

Went and got a degree at Uni instead .

Decided he had enough of the Police Force and started a Construction Company that built Child Care Centres with his dad .

Sold them all to Eddie at ABC Learning and made great money ( Eddie went broke from paying 2 much for all the centres ) .

Served as Deputy Treasurer under Costello ( the guy that runs the Future Fund ) .

Been a Defence and Health Minister .

His constituents love him !

Boycotted the Sorry ceremony and later said sorry , and admitted he underestimated the significance of the event .

Gosh , sounds like a hopeless person 2 Lead the Libs atm , look at their other options .

I can now see why SN hate him so much !

NFI why they chose him and why Albo can't deal with him .

Really weird !

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 6:58pm
Pop Down wrote:

A 5 minute check and I c Peter was a descendant of Qld's first Sergeant at Arms , Capt R Coley .

He gave evidence that CONFIRMED the mass poisoning of Aboriginal Australians at Kilroy in 1842 .

Worked in a butchers shop .

Great career in both the drug and family violence dept at the Police .

Had to leave as involved in a terrible car crash when chasing a criminal driving erratically and he rolled his car and spent a week in hospital .

Tried to sue the Insurance Company for damages but later dropped it ( 250K ) .

Went and got a degree at Uni instead .

Decided he had enough of the Police Force and started a Construction Company that built Child Care Centres with his dad .

Sold them all to Eddie at ABC Learning and made great money ( Eddie went broke from paying 2 much for all the centres ) .

Served as Deputy Treasurer under Costello ( the guy that runs the Future Fund ) .

Been a Defence and Health Minister .

His constituents love him !

Boycotted the Sorry ceremony and later said sorry , and admitted he underestimated the significance of the event .

Gosh , sounds like a hopeless person 2 Lead the Libs atm , look at their other options .

I can now see why SN hate him so much !

NFI why they chose him and why Albo can't deal with him .

Really weird !

He has massive support from Murdock, a regular 2GB slot where he and Ray Hadley perform fellatio on each other and won't go and be interviewed on ABC, except recently which was a train wreck.
Can hide without any real examination of his character.
Queensland seat Dickson. I'm Queenslander and cannot stand the man politically, but met a lady whose daughter his son was meant to be dating and apparently son is a lovely kid.
Politically though I reckon he is just dangerous.
Story goes when he left force his colleagues gave him a tin of dog food for present.
Also allegedly involved in some pretty unsavory treatment of indigenous youth, but what do ya believe. Qld cop who came up under Fitzgerald mob.
At home he may be a great bloke, but keep him away from lodge.

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Pop Down Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 7:27pm

Thanks Macca

Peter is sounding better by the minute .

The people of Dickson do know him and his family well , as he has represented them for over 20 years .

Murdock and Handley don't suffer fools gladly and I thought HE made the ABC host STOP in her tracks , and enjoyed the encounter , as it doesn't happen often .

Then some real scuttle buck that NO sensible person can really judge , so take into a consideration .

Tin can stuff .

How long has Albo got 2 keep looking this good ?

How are your polls going , Albo ?

He probably thinks like SN , and thinks the Voters think Peter is scary .

Lol , Albo , it's U , that should be scared .

We will like a guy with True Grit .

FFS , we need 1 !!!

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andy-mac Thursday, 15 Feb 2024 at 7:57pm

""Murdock and Handley don't suffer fools gladly""

Haha surely you jest!

Ok edited, both are extreme right wing dicks, and Murdock has done more damage to western culture/ democracy than anyone.
Satan has a nice spot waiting for him down below....

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velocityjohnno Friday, 16 Feb 2024 at 12:51pm

Watch this one and weep

What a cess pit of corruption our education sector has allowed itself to be associated with.

Unbelievable.

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Pop Down Friday, 16 Feb 2024 at 1:21pm

Hey VJ

I checked out NextEd a year ago and they try and operate a legitimate business so just watched the start of the piece .

They are the dominant player but only have a small proportion of the market .

The Universities would dominate the overseas student market .

NextEd have been stuffed around by the Government changing 401 ? Visa requirements .

Apparently the Super market chain has a stronger lobby group and they needed workers .

Overseas students want to either stay for a few years or apply for residency .

Either way they are required to do Education here and some do go onto University .

There Agents have a long term relationship with each student , right the way through their stay .

They are the students main adviser , same nationality .

The good operators want to help their students and exactly the same 4 NextEd .

The industry is rife with rip off merchants .

NextEd are listed so have to be well managed , or else !!!

Quite surprised that the Education Market is bigger than Gold and Beef !

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AndyM Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 10:48am

"Quite surprised that the Education Market is bigger than Gold and Beef !"

Pay attention Pop, it's got a large amount of sway over government policy.

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AndyM Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 10:54am

In other news, multinationals are bribing Coles and Woolworths to push through price increases on products.

Coles and Woolies love it, and blame increases on inflation.

These fuckers have fully two thirds of the market and are gouging like there's no tomorrow.

Plus, they collude on prices (though they tell you they don't, it's just that they're not competing).

If you support this shitty-arse duopoly, you've only got yourself to blame.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-19/coles-woolworths-supermarket-pric...

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Pop Down Monday, 19 Feb 2024 at 1:13pm

Agree Andy

An Australian company , getting a Coles OR Wollies deal , to sell their produce , is almost signing a deal with the devil .

Eventually they screw U , with paying for half decent shelf space and take all your margins .

U end up just working YOUR business , for them , and it's not worth it .

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AndyM Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 11:04am

This leech, this parasite, this sociopath gets a $24 million golden handshake for his significant role in price gouging and ripping off anyone he can.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-22/brad-banducci-woolworths-profits-...

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 2:06pm

a Palantir is a dangerous tool, Saruman
they are not all accounted for
the lost seeing stones
we do not know who else may be watching

https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/coles-inks-deal-with-maj...

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Pop Down Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 3:10pm

Hey Andy

U abuse a guy for doing his job really well .

U might think he is a shit kicking Psycho , but he DID what he was employed 2 do .

A bit harsh imho .

Not his fault that we have a near Duopoly , with Coles and Wollies dominating .

That Australians , for some reason , keep shopping there .

He has Australian Shareholders , 2 answer 2 .

For some reason , the market really likes the reliability of the Earnings Stream !

Banks love them to !

It's the Oil and Gas guys who get canned. by the Market , due to ESG concerns ffs .

The Costs of his business are increasing , especially Electricity , Land and Wages .

They Employ heaps of Australians ( remind me of their Standing against the Education Sector , please as do find it hard to keep up ) .

Recommended all my clients sell WOW and CML years ago , so have never heard of the bloke .

Switched into Wesfarmers and Bunnings .

I agree , the handshake was 2 generous , but would be part of his contract .

Qantas thought Joycey should get a Huge Golden Shower as his contract said , he stuffed up his last 2 years .

That was Crazy !

I hope u were as tough on Alan , as this bloke , Andy !

All BIG Business Leaders need to be very tough , that why they get 2 the Top and lead , usually .

Lot's of Stakeholders and responsibilities .

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sypkan Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 3:03pm

"Not his fault that we have a Duopoly , with Coles and Wollies dominating ."

it's our fault for letting this outrageous run away salary train to keep rolling...

seems nothing short of an old school pitchfork event will restore some sanity

if only the identitarians would riot over something more important than feelings...

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Optimist Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 3:26pm

If every shire council built a huge fruit and veg market on council land in each shire, the farmers could sell farm produce there as a linked co op instead of coles etc etc,
The shire councils would make a mint, the farmers would increase income percentage and the people could have cheaper council rates as well as fresher goods.
Building a giant shed on council owned land near the highway for truck access is a thought for the future…
I think it’s time for shire councils to turn rates into profit instead of continually raising them and whining they never have enough…..and what better way to do it by helping farmers and the public….would be fun and profitable.

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flollo Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:22pm

Sounds great optimist but many councils can’t even fix potholes or keep up with landscaping. As many other public services they seem to be very top heavy and there’s hardly anyone to coordinate things on the ground.

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gsco mkII Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:34pm

sorry I'm not buying the whole price gouging thing here. Those profit margin and profitability changes are minuscule and randomly fluctuate more than that. Nothing has been said previously. The reality is we just had an inflation event caused by government spending, covid disruptions and the Ukraine war resource price spike, etc. Yes it hurt and of course politicians are on the search for a scapegoat, but they need to look in the mirror.

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AndyM Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:32pm
Pop Down wrote:

Hey Andy

U abuse a guy for doing his job really well .

U might think he is a shit kicking Psycho , but he DID what he was employed 2 do .

A bit harsh imho .

Not his fault that we have a near Duopoly , with Coles and Wollies dominating .

That Australians , for some reason , keep shopping there .

He has Australian Shareholders , 2 answer 2 .

For some reason , the market really likes the reliability of the Earnings Stream !

Banks love them to !

It's the Oil and Gas guys who get canned. by the Market , due to ESG concerns ffs .

The Costs of his business are increasing , especially Electricity , Land and Wages .

They Employ heaps of Australians ( remind me of their Standing against the Education Sector , please as do find it hard to keep up ) .

Recommended all my clients sell WOW and CML years ago , so have never heard of the bloke .

Switched into Wesfarmers and Bunnings .

I agree , the handshake was 2 generous , but would be part of his contract .

Qantas thought Joycey should get a Huge Golden Shower as his contract said , he stuffed up his last 2 years .

That was Crazy !

I hope u were as tough on Alan , as this bloke , Andy !

All BIG Business Leaders need to be very tough , that why they get 2 the Top and lead , usually .

Lot's of Stakeholders and responsibilities .

Yeah Pop, I abuse a guy for doing something that is morally indefensible.
I'm ok with that.
Shareholders can go and get fucked, this is greed without remorse or scruples.

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andy-mac Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:33pm

And booze....

https://m.

&pp=ygUSbWljaGFlbCB3ZXN0IG1lZGlh

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Supafreak Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:42pm
gsco mkII wrote:

sorry I'm not buying the whole price gouging thing here. Those profit margin and profitability changes are minuscule and randomly fluctuate more than that. Nothing has been said previously. The reality is we just had an inflation event caused by government spending, covid disruptions and the Ukraine war resource price spike, etc. Yes it hurt and of course politicians are on the search for a scapegoat, but they need to look in the mirror.

Have you noticed some items that cost x amount last year are 30% or more this year , what % is inflation running at again ?

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:54pm
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And booze....

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhpx5p7EiiE&pp=ygUSbWljaGFlbCB3ZXN0IG1lZGlh

Continuation of a very old and fine tradition in Australia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_South_Wales_Corps

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gsco mkII Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 4:56pm

and lots of items are not.

Woolworths' results are boring as batshit and look what happened to its share price when they were reported.

Of course the left will use any perceived opportunity it can to do some corporate bashing and anti-capitalism claptrap.

The ABC article is cringeworthy stuff.

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Pop Down Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:06pm

Andy

This guy has a whole Legal Team , PR team to ensure that the company played by Strict Rules Set the by the ASX .

It's standards are equal to the highest in the World .

If this guy's Reputation was tarnished , at ALL , I would have heard about .

Like Joyce and Gyder .

So Andy is a better Judge and Jury that the ASX , ASIC , ACCC etc etc .

You then can abuse nearly every woman and man , try to having a go and try to run a business by the Rules that they didn't set and change 2 often , for their liking .

Then they pay tax .

The Regulators have not wanted WOW or Coles to Increase their market share , for nearly 10 years .

They don't let them build new stores , so were an easy SELL .

They are probably cheap now , so a Buy lol .

I HATE both companies and never recommended them .

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:00pm

Every bit of known information is reflected in last price, gravity was the winner for WOW this week.

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AlfredWallace Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:01pm
Supafreak wrote:
gsco mkII wrote:

sorry I'm not buying the whole price gouging thing here. Those profit margin and profitability changes are minuscule and randomly fluctuate more than that. Nothing has been said previously. The reality is we just had an inflation event caused by government spending, covid disruptions and the Ukraine war resource price spike, etc. Yes it hurt and of course politicians are on the search for a scapegoat, but they need to look in the mirror.

Have you noticed some items that cost x amount last year are 30% or more this year , what % is inflation running at again ?

Supafreak. Hi, hope you, your daughter and family are well.

Here’s a minute albeit a trivial example.

One year ago I buy a light globe for my Ute from SuperCheao Auto. $14.95

Two weeks ago I buy exactly the same globe, the same brand from the same store, now $24.95.

A crappy spare for a car, Made in China goes up $10 in a year, what a joke.

This is happening right across the board, I use a lot of timber, don’t get me started, it’s gone up astronomically per lineal metre.

Retailers who claim they are not price gouging are liars.

The increase may not be to do with inflation, I don’t know, it appears to me that businesses are pegging back all the money they didn’t make during Covid times.

Cole’s & Woolies, they never get a cent off me. Scumbags.

Sucks, they are having a lend of us.AW

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seaslug Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:21pm
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flollo Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:28pm

Coles and woolies are criminal organisations. Definitely price gouging.

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Pop Down Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:39pm

Ok , everyone , show me ONE Enquiry , that ANYONE has done on them , in the last 5 years !!!

And please , make it somewhat fn important .

Milk wars are old hat , show me one example , where this guy played OUTSIDE , the markets rules and was CAUGHT and fined .

As a Duopoly , he has an Obligation , to use that Power .

It's the Regulator that gives it and can take it away .

And I hate these guys .

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basesix Thursday, 22 Feb 2024 at 5:53pm
gsco mkII wrote:

sorry I'm not buying the whole price gouging thing here. Those profit margin and profitability changes are minuscule and randomly fluctuate more than that. Nothing has been said previously. The reality is we just had an inflation event caused by government spending, covid disruptions and the Ukraine war resource price spike, etc. Yes it hurt and of course politicians are on the search for a scapegoat, but they need to look in the mirror.

loving 'engaged routine gsco', we'll get a little anarchism/socialism to temper your otherwise fine views yet - there are free-market commonalities, that benefit people instead of transactional parasites companies, especially in regionally specific, multi-faceted public policy models. It is just quite a bit harder.. but if we don't do the hard stuff now, we're heading for a confected popularism-sycophant like trump leading a combined force of the privileged and the disenfranchised to our ultimate demise.