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blowfly started the topic in Wednesday, 1 Jul 2020 at 9:40am

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truebluebasher Monday, 7 Nov 2022 at 12:18am

swellnet Flood Appeal Directory...Donated by "GIVIT".
Qldurrz again Salute Oz for Qld / NSW Telethon & National Concert & recognizes those days are over!
In fact there was very little in the way of Flood Appeals when tbb last reported.
Given the mass of water...the Flood Appeals have stepped up & Qld must now return the favour.
Yes! tbb repeats he has given twice to Vic's recent homeless crisis & promised to give twice again soon.
Least we can do is muster up what support lines are out there...cont from last guide...

This time round we now have a Flood Appeal Directory...it's only fair that we share that.
Firstly! Crew may have noted Dan bossing his Vax mandate for Volunteers...
If Unvaxed Vic / NSW crew wish to Volunteer for Floods then tbb can point you where...
Blaze Aid run Regional Fencing repair Camps (All are No Vax)
https://blazeaid.com.au/

NSW Govt now have a Full Donations Guide
Note: [ GIVIT ] ( How did they get Top Billing? Huh! ) see next...
https://www.nsw.gov.au/floods/recovery/donations

ABC ( Now also stepped up & has a handy Guide/s )
Hey! Wait up tbb! Wot?
Isn't that there [GIVIT] Bossing #1 Position on the Hottest 100 Donors...( Nah! Ya must be seein' things!)
Like how come this Mob be bullying all Govts + ABC to hand over all our possessions & money! (Dunno!)
+ Also! Why does no one ever once mention this Secret Sect that preys on the poor.
https://www.abc.net.au/radio/abcgives/australian-floods/14079706
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-10-21/how-to-help-victorian-flood-victi...

Vic Govt have a decent Support / Resource Guide (But there's a catch!) Yep...that be "GIVIT"
https://www.education.vic.gov.au/school/teachers/management/Pages/flood-...
Unlike NSW - Vic Donations List only links the one mob > "GIVIT" ( Like WTF or Who is this Newbie)
Vic/Qld/NSW Govts now run "GIVIT" (tbb checked > GIVIT is run by "Insurance Australia Group"
https://www.education.vic.gov.au/school/teachers/management/Pages/flood-...

So why is Dan asking Aussies to Donate to an Insurance Agency? How does that not sound real dirty!
Why is Dan promoting Donations only to an Insurance Agency above all Charity Groups! Please Explain!

"GIVIT" Has promptly got Melbourne Cup elites bankrolling it...
Here's a demo...
(Cry for Help) Couch Potato Mum needs a scabies free slightly less soaked couch to surf on....
Tip: Remove yer Stash from the zip cushion prior to dumping yer Mouldy old Couch on Desperate Mum .
Bizarre downtown Trash'or'Treasure done by Highest Level Authorities...(This needs a double take!)
Like in what world are our Premiers running Op shops for Insurance Agencies...Things are getting bleak!

"GIVIT" sounds like shitting over victims! (FFS Please get a less creepy name!) OMG! Let us all pray!
Will we see the Charity Groups battle to hold ground against Insurance Agencies for Donations
How the hell did this wretched beast escape from the Natcab Lab.
https://www.givit.org.au/storms-and-flooding?page=2&appeals=Appeal-223&r...

tbb thinks it's best to avoid the ebay creepshow & play safe with yer more desperate Donation Groups.

Red Cross Disaster & Recovery Fund
https://www.redcross.org.au/donation/disaster-response-and-recovery/
Vinnies Vic Flood Appeal
https://donate.vinnies.org.au/appeals-vic/vinnies-vic-flood-appeal-2022
Anglican East Coast (Whole) Flood Relief
https://www.abmission.org/appeals/latest-news/eastern-australia-flood-ap...
17 Oct Bendigo Bank (Victoria Flood Appeal) [$10] > [$200]
https://www.communityenterprisefoundation.com.au/disaster-appeals/victor...

Wildlife Victoria (Emergency Rescue)
https://www.wildlifevictoria.org.au/actnow
Disaster Relief ( Volunteers )
https://disasterreliefaus.org/policies-and-publications/
Sikh Volunteers ( Can donate Groceries for their Prepared Meals )
https://sikhvolunteersaustralia.org/donation/
Victorian Farmers Disaster Relief Fund
https://www.vff.org.au/donations/

FFFR Vic / NSW / Tassie Regional Flood Recovery
https://frrr.org.au/giving/flood-recovery-appeal/

Dan is rebuilding Flooded Vic Homes with NP Larry Anthony's Cashless Indue Welfare Cards
Dan is furnishing Flooded Vic Homes with Donated Insurance Australia Group Bric-a-brac.
Libs have trouble winning Vic election...How is this even possible?

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Supafreak Saturday, 19 Nov 2022 at 9:34am

Who cares about emissions when you have an air show to put on ? Are these real jets ?https://twitter.com/thefigen_/status/1593271998586802177?s=46&t=8pYPk8J18T1Siqv2sDaRpg

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GreenJam Saturday, 19 Nov 2022 at 5:21pm

yeah, they seem to be spewing out a lot of fumes, and looks real, wonder how much better the USA's are? And they are starting to look like what you expect those UAP craft to do, but they seem to have no emissions

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Supafreak Saturday, 19 Nov 2022 at 5:24pm
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yeah, they seem to be spewing out a lot of fumes, and looks real, wonder how much better the USA's are? And they are starting to look like what you expect those UAP craft to do, but they seem to have no emissions

Yeah they looked real at first but in the comments , majority say they are remote control toys and that pilots couldn’t possibly take the G forces in some of those turns. Regardless though air shows are just burning fuel and polluting for no good reason other than entertainment.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 14 Dec 2022 at 4:22pm

I just watched this story on ABC , what a game changer . https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-14/us-scientists-nuclear-fusion-reac...

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 14 Dec 2022 at 5:52pm

That is awesome!

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stunet Wednesday, 14 Dec 2022 at 5:58pm

Agree, great news, however this passage caught my eye:

"It takes enormous resources and effort to advance fusion research. One approach turns hydrogen into plasma, an electrically charged gas, which is then controlled by humungous magnets."

Humungous?

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 14 Dec 2022 at 6:04pm

I saw the 'humungous'.

Do they even Journalism, bro?

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velocityjohnno Wednesday, 14 Dec 2022 at 6:04pm

The other lab uses extra big-ass lasers.

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Supafreak Saturday, 24 Dec 2022 at 2:42pm

All that money and this silly fat fvck doesn’t know how to just sit back and enjoy life or make a change in the world that people appreciate. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/23/clive-palmers-coa...

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velocityjohnno Monday, 26 Dec 2022 at 3:27pm

Monster winter storm takes 30 lives in US:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-26/frigid-monster-storm-across-us-cl...

US deep freeze to break records, Washington coldest since 1906, snow to the Rio Grande (again):

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-deep-freeze-forecast-break-211834158.html

Threat of coldest Christmas ever:

https://inqld.com.au/news/2022/12/23/icy-storm-threatens-americans-with-...

Only... that last year was supposed to be the coldest in a long time, and now with 2022 have a quinella:

https://www.noaa.gov/news/us-had-its-coldest-february-in-more-than-30-years

Last year:

This year:

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velocityjohnno Monday, 26 Dec 2022 at 3:35pm

ABC US report has some incredible visuals in this huge winter storm, particularly the semi truck and the landing plane!

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velocityjohnno Friday, 30 Dec 2022 at 3:44pm

The Niagara river has frozen over.

https://www.ndtv.com/feature/us-blizzard-niagara-falls-turn-into-icy-win...

?

Given all this, it is probable that also, Hell* has frozen over.

*Hell, Michigan.

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Craig Monday, 30 Jan 2023 at 10:03am

Auckland has been breaking records left right and centre.

And the amount of moisture in the atmosphere and intensity of the downpours in a small amount of town has been very very significant..

"Between 8pm and 10pm on Friday night, more than 131mm of rain fell in Auckland. By 1am, the region had recorded 249mm of rain, exceeding the previous 24-hour record of 161.8mm set in February 1985."

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Craig Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 7:38am

Sea ice extent is at record lows across both the Antarctic and Arctic, pushing two standard deviations away from the 1981-2010 average..

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Standingleft Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 11:03am
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Sea ice extent is at record lows
That's way out of wack and from pole to pole ! Does anyone know what's driving it ?
Old Hunga Tonga–Hunga Ha'apai ?
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Craig Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 11:15am

No, just the continued warming of the poles.

Have a scroll of Zacks' page.. https://zacklabe.com/arctic-sea-ice-figures/

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Craig Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 11:17am

And this also just happened..

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Supafreak Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 12:35pm

Incredible @ Craig

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Craig Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 12:48pm

Wow, that's incredible Supa. There's also a research station Halley 6 which is just inland of the recent location of shedding and is in the firing line when it next sheds..

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Standingleft Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 7:38pm

Woah that's immense. Was it being battered by a storm or something? Can see the current or whatever puts pressure on the coastline and crack, there's another massive chunk just above it let's go first. That's.... Dunno.
And what happened in 2016? Antarctic Ice cover plummeted and well, Zach's going to need a new graph. Thx again
I put the phone down today and went surfing. If you ride your waves in a tube stance they seem bigger

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flollo Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 7:41pm

Yeah that Halley 6 doesn't look like a safe place to be, it's gonna go soon.

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Coaster Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 9:16pm

Giant iceberg breaks off from Antarctica, but not due to climate change

https://www.smh.com.au/world/oceania/giant-iceberg-breaks-off-from-antar...

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Standingleft Wednesday, 1 Feb 2023 at 9:39pm

Does all this melted ice add volume to the sea ?

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wallpaper Thursday, 2 Feb 2023 at 7:56am

Try this experiment. Take an icecube out of the fridge and put it in an empty glass. After the icecube has melted, tip the contents of the glass into the sea. Then have a think about what you just did.

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Craig Thursday, 2 Feb 2023 at 8:13am

Yeah it does SL.

And, more records..

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Standingleft Thursday, 2 Feb 2023 at 10:15am
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Try this experiment. Take an icecube out of the fridge and put it in an empty glass. After the icecube has melted, tip the contents of the glass into the sea. Then have a think about what you just did.

Haha, while I appreciate the clever use of sarcasm and irony WP it seems you're using it to try to bully me into agreeing with you. Why don't we take your experiment and multiply it by 6 billion people?
Anyhow that one chunk gone is the size of greater London ffs and keep in mind at the bottom of these graphs it says ZERO. No sea ice, it's all melted!
The problem is a 1mm rise in sea level is 1m of coastline lost. Not sure about the coast wherever the hell you live but around here that's another chunk of the the GORd gone for a start.
It's later than you think

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wallpaper Friday, 3 Feb 2023 at 12:17pm

not sure what you're talking about @StandingLeft.. I thought you posed the question as to whether the water from icemelt (icebergs/icesheets/glaciers etc) adds volume to the sea. Maybe I should have said this:

Take a massive glass about the size of Mt Everest. Stick a few glaciers and icebergs in it, let them melt and then empty the glass into the ocean and see what happens.

Q: Does water from icemelt increase the volume of the oceans leading to sea level rise?
A: Of course it fucking does. Any idiot can see that.

Now as to what you're on about this idiot has no idea.

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flollo Thursday, 9 Feb 2023 at 11:47pm

Here’s a good job if anyone’s interested. What do you think, a legit attempt to do something positive or just greenwashing?

https://jobs.deloitte.com.au/job/Sydney-Carbon-Forests-Portfolio-Manager...

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bonza Friday, 10 Feb 2023 at 7:41am

Carbon markets are a quagmire. Cowboy stuff. Needs massive overhaul.

https://wentworthgroup.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Final-Chubb-Submis...

Just bring back a carbon tax already.

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Supafreak Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 11:13am

Some need to give up their comforts , some but not all .

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sypkan Saturday, 11 Feb 2023 at 1:33pm
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Some need to give up their comforts , some but not all . https://youtu.be/G3prIBTxT9M

the real (coming) class war...

slater's a carbon offsetter jetsetter too, or was...

now he's just cooked... too much global warming?

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GreenJam Thursday, 16 Feb 2023 at 3:39pm

did I see it commented on somewhere else on swellnet - the Four Corners story earlier this week on the dodginess of some forest carbon offsetting schemes (PNG focus)? I cannot recall, but worth a look and read of the associated ABC news articles if you have any interest in this rapidly emerging sector. Certainly much 'carbon cowboy' stuff going on out there bonza. And how about the Aus corporates not doing their due diligence...

and sort of related, the article link below. Good to see some common sense and good science getting some air on an important issue for Australia.
https://www.gippslandtimes.com.au/opinion/2023/01/31/comment-harvesting-...

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Supafreak Wednesday, 22 Feb 2023 at 12:25pm
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AndyM Wednesday, 22 Feb 2023 at 12:43pm

Voters know what they have to do, don't they?

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andy-mac Wednesday, 22 Feb 2023 at 2:00pm

No matter how farked Labor may be, they are still an improvement over this mob....

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/feb/22/nsw-could-invest-...

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AndyM Wednesday, 22 Feb 2023 at 3:45pm

Wonder if Perrotet is actually an android.

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seeds Wednesday, 22 Feb 2023 at 9:23pm

Did anyone catch the first story about New Zealand and Gabrielle’s brief interaction on 7.30 report tonight. Wow so much destruction. I hadn’t seen that much footage of the carnage. Just heard radio reports. We’ve had major floods recently but wow how bad did our brothers cop it. The amount of silt through some places and people’s homes after the water subsided astounded me.
How did your area cope Island Bay?
I know you are in the west but surely there was some bad outcomes. Was a lot of the damage in the central areas?

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Island Bay Thursday, 23 Feb 2023 at 4:49am

Cheers, Seeds.
Busy morning, but will post later. Lots of damage, and many areas cut off.
And I just issued a heavy rain watch yesterday for Hawkes Bay, likely to becomes a warning this morning; more shit on the way.

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Craig Thursday, 23 Feb 2023 at 7:47am

Just watched.. https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2301H027S00

Wow, the silt is crazy, and the damage to infrastructure.

Thoughts with everyone over there including you IB. Yeah looks like some further heavy rain to come eh.

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Craig Thursday, 23 Feb 2023 at 7:50am

Not sure if anyone caught the flooding in Sao Paulo as well..

683mm in 24 hours.

"Bertioga and São Sebastião received around 400 millimeters of rain in eight hours, according to Metsul. Only between 0h and 1h, São Sebastião received 100 millimeters of rain. The forecast for February in municipalities like Ilhabela and São Sebastião is 303 mm. In Bertioga, the total precipitation in 24 hours was 683mm... - Veja mais em https://noticias.uol.com.br/cotidiano/ultimas-noticias/2023/02/19/chuvas... litoral-norte-de-sao-paulo-veja.htm?cmpid=copiaecola"

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Island Bay Thursday, 23 Feb 2023 at 10:06am

Some further notes, Seeds:
We're fine out at Raglan, except all roads were smashed, and you couldn't get in/out for a while. Roads open again now, except for the main SH23, which hopefully reopens in a week. Minor damage otherwise.

Not far up the coast, Auckland beach communities Muriwai and Piha got hit very badly, with loss of life and significant damage to houses and infrastructure. Coromandel got 400mm+ and roads there are a mess and will take years to rebuild.

Gisborne area too has several communities isolated and lots of slips and roads taken out. One big problem is the leftover slash from forestry operations which comes barreling down rivers and takes out bridges. It used to get burnt, but that's no longer allowed due to emissions concerns. A solution must be found.

Hawkes bay is the worst hit region, especially Eskdale/Esk River Valley where my wife grew up. 400-500mm fell over the catchment, and the river rose VERY quickly, trapping people in houses and doing massive damage. Surprised that the death toll is still below 20. This is not an unprecedented event, as an eerily similar event occurred in 1938:
"1938 23-25 April Esk Valley Floods. Severe flooding was widespread after three days of heavy rain, with exceptional falls in some areas. In three days, 610 mm fell at Tutira, and a staggering 1,000 mm at Puketitiri (with 390 mm in one day). " Photos show two-metre deep silt, just like at the moment.

Fortunately these are strong farming communities where people get shit done, so the rebuild will happen. The brother of our good friend found himself isolated in the Hawkes Bay backblocks. He and a mate found a digger with the keys in the ignition, and taught themselves how to operate it. They dug themselves out and built a ford across a river, then drove their tractor into Napier for supplies.

Unfortunately more rain is on the way, and the tropics are active too, with GFS hinting at another TC possibly heading our way. Our family there is on edge, and exhausted.

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seeds Thursday, 23 Feb 2023 at 11:10am

Heavy situation for so many. Stay safe.

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freeride76 Thursday, 23 Feb 2023 at 11:10am

All the best to you and yours IB.

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Craig Tuesday, 28 Feb 2023 at 5:21pm

Saul Griffith is a genius and has been working wonders around the world.

Give this a view.. https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2302Q001S00

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bonza Tuesday, 28 Feb 2023 at 8:34pm

I agree Craig. Make no mistake he has a big target on his back now. Will be taken through the ringer. YouTube and instakarnts will be lapping it up.
I’m paraphrasing but he made statement about having the realisation somewhat time ago that policy wasnt made by politicians but by interest groups. So he realised that was the pathway to change and followed suit

That’s a pretty risky dangerous thing to say given the times.

He backs himself though by qualifying that statement “….through robust scientific evidence based modelling”.

I was impressed with that.

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Supafreak Thursday, 2 Mar 2023 at 2:37pm

On Lombok, rising sea levels force fishers into different jobs https://news.mongabay.com/2023/02/on-lombok-rising-sea-levels-force-fish...