2022 Election

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blindboy started the topic in Saturday, 13 Nov 2021 at 7:46am

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I focus Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 1:05pm
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What’s going to be left of the Scott Morrison Party after this election and a federal ICAC ? Not much , they will spend next decade probably more in the wilderness R.I.P ….LNP

Nah, they're not even guaranteed to lose. You should trust the polls no more than you trust politicians.

I agree the election hasn't been lost yet.

To Supa's point about the LNP two points (1) a proper ICAC should see a number of LNP Ministers disgraced and forced to leave politics diluting even further the small talent pool. (2) the expected fight between the moderate and hard right factions of the Liberals and between the Liberals and Nationals will most likely go nuclear causing even more distrust and dissatisfaction in the eyes of the public. The LNP could well be unelectable for a decade or more and especially if Labor approach government and its reform agenda incrementally. Lots of balls in the air but one can only hope.

Regardless of the election outcome the future for the Liberal party looks ominous, more religious right could get voted in (was that the problems around pre selection NSW? )and so called moderates voted out continuing the lurch to the extreme right arla WA state Liberal Party and heading towards a US Republican style party.

WA as an example has seen state Labor as a result of the above smash the liberals with calls from older Liberal members calling meeting to save the Liberal party from the religious take over.

If Federal Liberal party lose it will be interesting to see if there are any recriminations against the religious right if not then the Liberal party is gone for some time.

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AndyM Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 1:09pm

Journo Chris Mitchell from The Australian believes that if the Libs lose, they need to move further to the right.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 1:10pm

@I focus , going to a private camp ,it’s not a big name spot , it’s not advertised and is a invite only friend of friends set up . No safe anchorage so no boats really go there . Max 10 people allowed at a time . I’ve been told it’s not as good as maccas but close .

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scott_scott Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 1:52pm

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happyppl Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 3:23pm

this access to super for house deposit is basically "pork barreling", 6 days before vote the libs lob this out there and ppl can"t see it for what it is? vote buying.
allso that will be mega bucks passing through the banks et all. it will push up prices and inflation.
however if a buyer(s) will be paying far less mrge payments than rent???
labours idea is basicaly same outcome but better as your super is safe(ish)
libs allowed access to super re covid and used car prices went up and r.e.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 3:32pm
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DudeSweetDudeSweet Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 3:33pm

From Macrobusiness:

Where’s the inflation panic surrounding Stage 3 tax cuts?
By Unconventional Economist
Over the past few weeks, we’ve witnessed the business lobby, mainstream media, the IPA and Coalition all hit out at the union’s and Labor’s call to lift the minimum wage by the Consumer Price Index (CPI), claiming that doing so would stoke inflation and force up interest rates.

At the same time, these groups have been conspicuously silent on the Coalition’s legislated Stage 3 tax cuts, which will now lavish $17.7 billion on high income earners in its first year, growing to $37 billion annually by the early 2030s:

Under the stage three cuts, the 37 per cent tax bracket will be abolished, the top 45 per cent bracket will start from $200,000 and the 32.5 per cent rate will be cut to 30 per cent for all incomes between $45,000 and $200,000.

People earning more than $200,000 will get a tax cut worth $9075 a year. The top 10 per cent of income earners will get more than half of the value of the cuts…

The budget office now estimates the cost of the first year of the tax cuts at $17.7 billion. Between 2024-25 and 2031-32, the tax cuts are now estimated to cost the budget $206.6 billion, a blowout of $22.4 billion in a year…

The cost of government debt, now at $886 billion, continues to escalate.

By the time the Stage 3 tax cuts come into effect from mid-2024, the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) is tipped to have hiked the cash rate to over 2%.

So while the RBA will have pushed up interest rates to take money out of our hands and cool the economy, the federal government will be working against the RBA by lavishing tens-of-billions of dollars on high income earners. Other things equal, the fiscal hose of the Stage 3 tax cuts will need to be offset by higher interest rates.

Why is the media and business lobby so vocal about inflationary impact of maintaining the real value of the minimum wage, while completely silent on the federal government’s fiscally irresponsible Stage 3 tax cuts?

Always follow the money.

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Optimist Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 3:38pm

Sustainable Australia look the goods too….nice vision of well being over growth…lots of people from well informed backgrounds running it too….nice and centre politically.

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 4:18pm

Does anyone have a prediction of % of raw vote for each party - before preferences?

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Fliplid Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 5:50pm
DudeSweetDudeSweet wrote:

From Macrobusiness:

Where’s the inflation panic surrounding Stage 3 tax cuts?
By Unconventional Economist
Over the past few weeks, we’ve witnessed the business lobby, mainstream media, the IPA and Coalition all hit out at the union’s and Labor’s call to lift the minimum wage by the Consumer Price Index (CPI), claiming that doing so would stoke inflation and force up interest rates.

At the same time, these groups have been conspicuously silent on the Coalition’s legislated Stage 3 tax cuts, which will now lavish $17.7 billion on high income earners in its first year, growing to $37 billion annually by the early 2030s:

Under the stage three cuts, the 37 per cent tax bracket will be abolished, the top 45 per cent bracket will start from $200,000 and the 32.5 per cent rate will be cut to 30 per cent for all incomes between $45,000 and $200,000.

People earning more than $200,000 will get a tax cut worth $9075 a year. The top 10 per cent of income earners will get more than half of the value of the cuts…

The budget office now estimates the cost of the first year of the tax cuts at $17.7 billion. Between 2024-25 and 2031-32, the tax cuts are now estimated to cost the budget $206.6 billion, a blowout of $22.4 billion in a year…

The cost of government debt, now at $886 billion, continues to escalate.

By the time the Stage 3 tax cuts come into effect from mid-2024, the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) is tipped to have hiked the cash rate to over 2%.

So while the RBA will have pushed up interest rates to take money out of our hands and cool the economy, the federal government will be working against the RBA by lavishing tens-of-billions of dollars on high income earners. Other things equal, the fiscal hose of the Stage 3 tax cuts will need to be offset by higher interest rates.

Why is the media and business lobby so vocal about inflationary impact of maintaining the real value of the minimum wage, while completely silent on the federal government’s fiscally irresponsible Stage 3 tax cuts?

Always follow the money.

That is one side of the equation, the loss of tax revenue from the tax cuts. Add to that the exponential growth of the negative gearing rebates and dividend imputation refunds and in a decade or so there is going to be a massive drain on government revenue which in turn leaves less to fund services by government, like education, health, medicare, aged care etc.

Today we have a glimpse of how that shortfall is going to be paid for, cuts to the public service. No mention of a cut back to private consultants though, where are their efficiency dividends?

There is going to be a gradual erosion of government services and more reliance on user pays and so we will eventually end up like the US, which has been the intention all along.

The other day someone said the good ol’ days are over and that’s true but Labor isn’t the cause, it’s the cancer called LNP

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old-dog Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 6:12pm

Time for the boring old adults to hand the lolly jar over to the kids. Fasten your seat belts folks.

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velocityjohnno Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 6:25pm

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-61453738

Writer in a teal electorate does a pretty good job of sensing the zeitgeist

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flollo Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 6:32pm

Stage 3 tax cuts are not perfect but I’ll take anything over nothing. Happy to see a reform that tilts the benefit distribution to the lower end of the scale but canceling it entirely will kill any chances of me supporting Labor. I already wrote about this extensively, no need for a repeat. Ideally, taxation should move with salary increases and inflation which would prevent someone doing the same job for the same real salary year in year out get taxed more overtime.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 6:37pm

. Some interesting replies

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Westofthelake Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 6:46pm

The lnp are so desperate that the good people of Shepparton are reporting that they are receiving robo calls from John Howard!
"That was the creepiest phone message" - FS

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I focus Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 7:32pm
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@I focus , going to a private camp ,it’s not a big name spot , it’s not advertised and is a invite only friend of friends set up . No safe anchorage so no boats really go there . Max 10 people allowed at a time . I’ve been told it’s not as good as maccas but close .

Ah got it I think hope you score place is open to swell if I have it right.

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jwithay Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 7:41pm

My partner and I are in the Casey electorate of Victoria. I checked the mailbox after work today and found that she has a letter sent from John Howard, the latest in a long line of personally addressed letters from various Liberal figures. Nothing ever comes for me...I must have been put on some kind of internal 'do not bother' list. I'm waiting for her to get home so we can see what garbage is contained in their latest effort to secure her vote, then it will be thrown straight in to the fireplace and go the way of the rest of their pathetic panderings.

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bonza Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 8:21pm
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Stage 3 tax cuts are not perfect but I’ll take anything over nothing. Happy to see a reform that tilts the benefit distribution to the lower end of the scale but canceling it entirely will kill any chances of me supporting Labor. .

really? if hypothetically labour came out and cancelled this policy (despite them supporting it) this is the single issue that would cause you to vote Lib over Lab?

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Supafreak Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 8:25pm

Ouch ! What’s got into grimshaw ? Have to find scomo’s response , the bloke can certainly talk .

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Fliplid Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 8:31pm
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Time for the boring old adults to hand the lolly jar over to the kids. Fasten your seat belts folks.

What do you think is going to happen when the lolly jar keeps shrinking from all this loss of revenue old-dog?

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Westofthelake Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 9:44am

31 former judges have written an open letter to the leaders of Australia's political parties.
Read the text below:
Dear Mr Morrison, Mr Albanese, Mr Bandt, Senator Hanson, Mr Palmer and all Australian political leaders.
Despite recent criticisms of anti-corruption commissions, the widely accepted case for a well-designed National Integrity Commission remains impregnable. The federal government enters into contracts and makes grants worth hundreds of billions each year. This is public money, held on trust for the nation as a whole, to be spent in the national interest and not for unethical political purposes or illegitimate private gain.
Where billions are to be spent and significant power is available to dispense it with little oversight, greedy people with convenient consciences and powerful connections will ensure that, with the manipulation of their influence, they will obtain illegal or unethical advantage to the detriment of the interests of the general public. And they will do so by means which only a specialist anti-corruption body will have the skill and power to detect. A political solution via elections, the media, or the parliament, as some suggest, has not produced consequences in real time even where there has been some exposure of wrongdoing. Without the commission we envisage, the right of Australians to have their taxes employed for the maximum national advantage will not always prevail over the corrupt exercise of power - that is, conduct of any person (whether or not a public official) that adversely affects, or could adversely affect, the honest or impartial exercise of official functions by any public official; or any conduct of a public official that constitutes or involves a breach of public trust.
Existing federal integrity agencies lack the necessary jurisdiction, powers and know-how to investigate properly the impartiality and bona-fides of decisions made by, and conduct of, the federal government and public sector. It also seems clear from the reports of numerous scandals that the educative role of such a body for both the federal executive and their staff as well as public sector employees is long overdue.
We are retired judges who believe that a National Integrity Commission is urgently needed to fill the gaps in our integrity system and restore trust in our political processes. Nothing less than halting the serious erosion of our shared democratic principles is at stake. Such a body, if properly designed and led, can be entrusted to act fairly and in accordance with natural justice while having the powers necessary if corruption is to be effectively challenged. There must be conferred upon that commission a broad jurisdiction and strong investigative powers, including the power to hold public hearings, and respond to bona fide complaints from the public, so that serious or systemic corruption and misconduct can be adequately investigated and exposed.
We urge you to use your influence in the next Parliament to ensure that a strong, effective and independent National Integrity Commission is established as a matter of urgency.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 10:24am

Sportbet has LNP at $2.85 , they were $4.20 3-4 days ago . 7-CBE8-B7-D-BE52-4-D7-C-85-FD-C60-A0-A1-C6616
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I focus Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 11:32am
Supafreak wrote:

Sportbet has LNP at $2.85 , they were $4.20 3-4 days ago . 7-CBE8-B7-D-BE52-4-D7-C-85-FD-C60-A0-A1-C6616
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Indo to get the last laugh and laugh longest perhaps?

That letter signed by the extreme lefty wing communist, socialist, wokey judges (sarcasm)is damming how ever not sure enough people are listening or interested.

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Supafreak Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 12:07pm

@I focus, Hahaha, I’m still pretty confident the loose units will win . If I’m wrong indo & opti will have a field day .

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Supafreak Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 12:23pm

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AndyM Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 12:26pm

"the right of Australians to have their taxes employed for the maximum national advantage"

Communism!
Bloody communism I tells ya!

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frog Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 1:36pm
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Time for the boring old adults to hand the lolly jar over to the kids. Fasten your seat belts folks.

The libs have more than proved their financial and project delivery incompetence over and over in recent years. Their score card is dismal on money wasted and being slow off the mark to foresee obvious issues. A trillion debt says it all.

A lot of this flows from a leader relying on:

- hope (sure it is been very dry but God won't let bushfires ruin my summer after he gave me my miracle win...)
- time spent in prayer rather than planning ( he said "I have worn out the carpet in the lodge by my bed praying"). If even a few of those hours had been spent doing some SWOT analysis, "what if" thinking at critical times we would be so much better off.
- clever talk rather than clever action as an end in itself (I can conjure up a slick answer for everything in those news conferences but that annoying virus just doesn't seem to watch the news and realise how clever I am).
- positive thinking and not pondering what could go wrong (Robodebt - sending real bills to real people for possible debts based on an algorithmic estimate of likelihood might not be a good idea even if the nerds say it will be 95% correct - oops that means 5% are wrong....).
- defending the undefendable to score points like in a debating contest- Robodebt
Not too confident in the alternative but don't like rewarding incompetence.

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scott_scott Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 4:23pm

The word 'bulldozer,' meaning one who intimidates by violence, appeared also in 1876, a machine for clearing or leveling in 1930. The etymology usually suggested is a compound of 'bull' (the animal) and an altered form of 'dose,' i.e., a whipping to coerce voters was a dose suitable for a bull. The reference is a supposed practice during the Tilden campaign, especially among Blacks in the South." From The Barnhart Concise Dictionary of Etymology by Robert K. Barnhart (HarperCollins Publishers, New York, 1995).

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old-dog Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 5:28pm

@ fliplid, the lolly jar is already empty, that is why its the perfect time to let the kids have it.
@frog, I agree with everything you said, they are almost as incompetent as the previous Labor Govt.

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Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 6:19pm

Game changer

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Westofthelake Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 8:00pm

Too funny, the truth, finally, that we always knew.

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truebluebasher Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 8:11pm

(80) or 50% of Covid Elections are cancelled ...mostly in high vaxed Nations down to lowest vax.
Europe 32.5% > Asia 22.5% > Americas 22.5 > Africa 18.8% > Middle East 3.7% (No surprises there!)
Voter turnout increased in (37) or 34% of countries (vs) decreased in (71) or 66% of countries
Of interest is Newcastle Uni released this excellent report...timing with our Federal May Election.
https://www.idea.int/news-media/multimedia-reports/global-overview-covid...

There are currently 360,000 [+] or roughly 2% can't vote in AEC Booths.
2% [+] wins 11 seats ...[L] 76 vs alp 69 (More than enough to swing Oz election from Iso.)
Ironically same / similar number checks out with this review! Can lock that in...Rock Solid!
Add to this....Oz Polling Day Covid pours 10% fuel over most Hotly contested Seats

tbb has long called this & promised to address [+] & will share a guide to Hottest swing seats.
Forget Green Ant & Breaky TV ...swellnet are so far ahead those losers & will deliver the goods!

1-50 min > 1-10 max have Covid at yer local Booth > tbb will out yer Hottest Booths. (Please!)
This of course, includes Booth Workers wiping each pencil 3x for 4 voters. (Avoid the sauce bottle!)
Voters are asked to adopt Covid Safe measures or possibly be denied your Vote.

'AEC : Delays with Covid Safe Voting > Post & Phone / SD + Staff in Iso > Queue delays.
'Delays & alt Voting will rob Votes in many in many swing seats.
'Expect Isolating Staff + SD delays in swing seat counting
'Equal Primary Vote sweats on delayed Covid Votes deciding the outcome in Hotly contested seats.
*Swinging Hot Seats will decide the Election on delayed Covid Safe timeline.

tbb's exclusive Hot Spot Table companions tbb's exclusive swingingest Hot seats.
www.swellnet.com/forums/wax/528560?page=81

Table informs of [+] Booths > Swing > [+]% > Impact > Delay count of all Hottest Swing Seats
Guide also exposes Hottest Seat Profiles.

*Contested Seat / Party / Lead %/ Iso Voters % [+] (2% average [+] Oz wide voters)

NSW :
*Robertson [L] 4.2% covid 11.5% / Chifley alp 12.4% covid 11% / *Dobell alp 1.5% covid 11% /
Watson alp 13.5% covid 9% / Blaxland alp 14.7% covid 9% / Warringah ind 7.2 covid 8% /
Sydney alp 18.7% covid 7% / *Mackellar [L] 13.2% covid 7% / *Parramatta alp 3.5% covid 7% /
Cook [L] 19% covid 5.5% / *Hughes [L] 9.8% covid 5.5% / *Shortland alp 4.4% covid 4.3% /
*Hunter alp 3% covid 4% / *Mitchell [L] 18.6% covid 4% / *Lindsay [L] 5% covid 4% /
Berowra [L] 15.7% covid 4%.
10 safest seats fuelling 16 Hottest nsw Spots. (nsw 6 [+] swing seats can change Govt!)
Vic:
*Casey [L] 4.6% covid 3.5% / Corio alp 10.3% covid 3% / *Carangamite alp 1% covid 3% /
*Cooper alp 14.6% covid 2.3% / *Wills alp 8.2% covid 2.3% / Monash [L] 6.9% covid 2.25% /
*Kooyong [L] 6.4% covid 2% / *Chisholm [L] .5% covid 2% / *Goldstein [L] 7.8% covid 2% /
Fraser alp 18.1% covid 2% / Ballarat alp 10.3% covid 2%
8 safest seats fuelling 11 hottest spots + Covid is bossing 2 [+] seats & nudging another!
Qld
Post codes + Q Health Regions...eg North / South Metro / West Moreton...etc
Combo Overlay with AEC Fed Map reveals Hot Seats...(60,000 active cases) > 2% or under.
*Lilley alp 0.6% / Petrie [L] 8.4% / *Ryan [L] 6% / Bowman [L] 10.2% / Forde [L] 8.6% / Fadden [L] 14.2 / Moncrieff [L] 15.4% / Mcpherson [L] 12.2% / Fairfax [L] 13.4% / Wide Bay [L] 13.2% / Herbert [L] 8.4% / *Leichhardt [L] 4.2% / Hinkler [L] 14.5% / *Blair alp 1.2% / Groom [L] 20.5% / *Flynn [L] 8.7%
12 Safe seats fuelling 16 hottest spots + 2 tight alp seats + 2 [L] swing seats impacted by Covid
WA
Health Regions + News Reports of Hot Cities transferred to Fed seats.
Curtin [L] 13.9% / Perth alp 3.2% / Moore [L] 16.9 / Fremantle alp 6.9% / Forest [L] 14.6%
Stirling [L] 2022 abolished > redistribution to surrounding seats.
4 safe seats fuelling 5 hot spots > (Wed) WA ramped 30 rats per Voter...Perth [+] will skyrocket
SA:
Adelaide alp 8.2% covid 3.8% / Spence alp 14.1% covid 3.7% / Kingston alp 11.9% covid 3% /
Hindmarsh alp 6.5% covid 2.7% / *Boothby [L] 1.4% covid 2.6% / Makin alp 9.7 covid 2% /
*Sturt [L] 6.9% covid 1.7%
6 safe seats fuelling 7 Hot Spots + Covid bossing 1 seat.
Tasmania
Clark ind 22.1% covid 3.3% / *Bass [L] 0.5% covid 2% / Franklin alp 12.1% covid 1%
2 safe seats fuelling 3 hottest seats + Covid bossing 1 seat.
ACT
Fenner alp 10.6% covid ( Safe seat has high Covid of 3 seats )
NT
Solomon alp 3.1% (NT Health High cases in top end!)

5% > safe seats Leading Pollies are fuelling 43 of 60 Oz Hottest spots
Oz wide Covid outbreaks decide a dozen swing seats! Way more than enough to Govern!
It's possible alp may win more but Covid has control of the House & already setting 2022 agenda!
Complacent VIP Leaders breed Covid complacency amongst highest Vaxed Global Electorates.

Clear to all that Vaccine is #1 Crisis that bosses our Pollies...they have no answer to halt Rollout mess.
Covid is now spiking but BA.2 has already long surpassed Omicron Cases & Deaths.
Experts lied about everything (Reality) = More Vax > more infections > more patients > more deaths.
Decent Pollie would campaign on cancelling Vax deal & get money back for next Vaxed Health Crisis.
Hospital frontline WA/SA/NSW/Qld scream BA.2 is way worse than Omicron & Winter spike is rising.

Explains why most isolated lowest density Island is crowned #1 Infectious Covid Hell Hole on Earth...
All candidates skip thru the Skulls...Vax fail is #1-100 in order of priorities...so who is steppin' up!
swellnet crew are doing their bit right here & now...leading from the front...let's hope they catch our drift.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

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Westofthelake Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 8:22pm

How good is young mate and his goal over the top of the bumbling bulldozer Morrison.

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Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 18 May 2022 at 9:30pm

Yo simpletons!

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sypkan Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 12:56am

geez, looking above, the desperation is palpable...

from all sides, all angles...

what an absolute shitshow of an election

with one of the most corrupt of sitting govenments - probably ever... and we have an opposition so pathetic and incompetent, it looks like we may very well see 3 more years of them...

albo is an absolute train wreck, and thats just the beginning

we still don't have any idea of this, much touted, so called 'plan' ...just 3 days out from the election mind you... whilst labor are constantly, and I mean CONSTANTLY, criticising the libs of having no plan (they don't)

both sides are arguing about the other raising house prices more, with their bullshit bandaid housing policies, aimed at making housing more affordable... when all the smart commentators are saying both policies will raise house prices even more (they will) ...both sides are in a bidding war, outdoing the other in shit policy that will do real untold damage, and will lock in already rampant rising inequality for decades to come...

hate to say it, but my 'feels' is, indo and opto will have their field day

but, sadly, I don't even care...

because the alternative is so contrived, fucked up, uninspiring, ...and just so damn well scary, that, three more years of the most corrupt government ever, just doesn't seem so bad...

desperate times indeed

oh gaaawwwd, someone, please give me a ray of hope

the whole poliical class should be embarrassed, so so embarassed!

(except maybe andym's greens anti woke chick, she sound great... and jim chalmers, he's conducted himself well (whilst lying, dodging and deflecting...))

bleak times ahead

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Optimist Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 5:20am

Watched Albo speak again on the ABC the other day. Still getting over the shock of it. The fact that he actually wants to lead a country is embarrassing. Look for the best and brightest local person in your district with a vision for their country and a dedication to free choice and vote for them. That’s the best we can hope for.

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Roadkill Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 6:37am

Albo…the saviour. Australia is not stupid enough to let that clown and his party govern. Still feeling pretty confident we won’t be subjected to an ALP win.

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Fliplid Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 7:34am
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@ fliplid, the lolly jar is already empty, that is why its the perfect time to let the kids have it.

I guess by the "kids" you mean anyone born after 1990.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-05-18/election-promises-risk-increasing...

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Supafreak Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 7:54am

@sypkan , haven’t seen any posts from you for a month maybe , have you been in indo ?

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 8:14am

Sounds like he's been in rehab. And it didn't work.

Cheer up, Sepp. The three stooges are back together: you, id, Blow Sweetie. And it even looks like you've finally naIled that elusive Shemp: Opus.

Happy daze.

Scotty wins, or at the very least we get the stupidest senate in Australian political history, and well, time to bust out the spumante and xanax, matey.

Everyone's a winner! Winner, winner, a Scotty salmonella dinner.

ps has Beach Grit started that blood feud yet? I've been off grid.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 8:34am

Voted yesterday, first time I've ever put LNP first and only the second time voting LNP, but after dealing with a once in 100 year pandemic so well they deserve a direct vote this time.

I personally think LNP have less than 25% of getting voted back in, it really would be a miracle if it happened, it's hard for any government to be voted in after 9 years, that milestone has only ever been reached twice before by Labor twice before by LNP and once way back by a collation party.

And after an event like Covid and fires and floods where you are expected to preform miracles it gets even harder.

Either way in a weird kind of way i think LNP are in a win win position, obviously you always take a win, but lets be real with inflation, interest rates rising, Covid really not ended, housing affordably issue not going to change or wages rise's will never be enough to keep people happy, who ever gets in power will be judged extremely harshly and won't be able to perform miracles.

So if LNP do get in they will only last one term max and going out in a bad period might damage their future prospects.

If Labor get in they will blame LNP for these things, but people will only buy that for so long, Australia might give them two terms, but they would really have to bring a lot of positive change to last more than that. (and can they still swap leaders of the party when in power?)

Basically my heart dreams of an LNP win especially for Scomo, but my head says you can't always win and if there is a time not to win, this is it and let Labor continue their record as the party who see's interest rate rises.

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 8:39am

How convenient, they should bring in a law ensuring costing are released before any voting happens.

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stunet Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 8:58am
indo-dreaming wrote:

How convenient, they should bring in a law ensuring costing are released before any voting happens.

Who should bring it in?

The LNP, who under Abbott didn't reveal costings until just hours before Saturday polling back in the 2013 election?

Good for the goose is good for the gander and all that...

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Hiccups Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 9:59am
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indo-dreaming wrote:

How convenient, they should bring in a law ensuring costing are released before any voting happens.

Who should bring it in?

The LNP, who under Abbott didn't reveal costings until just hours before Saturday polling back in the 2013 election?

Good for the goose is good for the gander and all that...

Indo only knows about geese.

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Roadkill Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 10:09am

Just this morning, Albo fucks up again. This guy is a fucking moron.

"our borders are closed"

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Supafreak Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 10:46am

Australian unemployment jumps to 9.7% in April; highest since July 2021 but under-employment unchanged https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8964-roy-morgan-unemployment-may-2022... Roy Morgan’s unemployment figure of 9.7% for April is more than double the ABS estimate for March 2022 of 4.0%. However, the ABS figure for March notes there were 504,100 workers who worked fewer hours than usual due to ‘bad weather or plant breakdown’ – an increase of 454,900 on the same figure for February (49,200). ……. But then there’s this https://www.abs.gov.au/media-centre/media-releases/unemployment-rate-rem....

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Supafreak Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 10:50am

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velocityjohnno Thursday, 19 May 2022 at 11:24am

have a look for Ethan on Twitter "Scott Morrison is now a Shooting Stars meme. I will never apologise for these"

slightly disturbed tho the music is upbeat

Been looking for my 'Coal caravan to QLD' moment in this election, maybe this is it?