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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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etarip Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 9:33am

- People are not ‘things’. It’s easier to move people than things.
- To indulge your convoluted (and frankly, moronic) analogy, if I was at the beach with my family and we had to get off the beach in a hurry, I’d make sure I’d take my wife and kids, and any of my mates kids that were at the beach with me or I’d noticed at the beach. I would try and make sure I had our wallet, phone house, keys. I’d probably not worry about the gazebo, footy, towels, boogie boards, esky, half a BBQ chook.
- I’d probably not walk over and punch the leader of the local bikie gang on the way out.

- leadership targeting only works as an adjunct to other actions supporting establishment of security conditions. The US has been doing this for 20 years. They’ve learned the limitations of that approach. (Maybe)
- war isn’t football

Your understanding of this issue is laughably simple, which is OK. Because you’re just some punter on the internet. Like me. But I’m not going to engage you on this issue.

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Hutchy 19 Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 11:13am

You don't think before writing .

The US chose their withdrawal date . They did they not need to hurry ! Why would they as it would lead to a disaster . They just had a very poor plan !

Using your analogy the US decided to leave their kids and their mates families and kids to the Taliban .

"- leadership targeting only works as an adjunct to other actions supporting establishment of security conditions. "

You really need to read some history . The tactic to target leadership has been always used since wars started . As I said it works . If you kill the leader it creates a vacuum . It demoralises the followers .
You really have NFI . It is WAR 101 . Please do some homework !

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etarip Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 11:18am

Hutchy. You’re advocating for extending the war, deploying more troops and recommencing combat operations?

I’ve read a lot of history. Both at undergrad and postgrad levels. I’ve got some time up applying it practically too. I’ve been to Afghanistan four times.

What’re your credentials bud?

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Hutchy 19 wrote:

You don't think before writing .

The US chose their withdrawal date . They did they not need to hurry ! Why would they as it would lead to a disaster . They just had a very poor plan !

Using your analogy the US decided to leave their kids and their mates families and kids to the Taliban .

"- leadership targeting only works as an adjunct to other actions supporting establishment of security conditions. "

You really need to read some history . The tactic to target leadership has been always used since wars started . As I said it works . If you kill the leader it creates a vacuum . It demoralises the followers .
You really have NFI . It is WAR 101 . Please do some homework !

Gosh, If only the military brass in the US had access to your expertise hey Hutchy.

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Hutchy 19 Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 11:39am

Etarip

"Hutchy. You’re advocating for extending the war, deploying more troops and recommencing combat operations?"

No I am not and never have . You obviously don't read or comprehend what I am writing .

The US should never gone into Afghanistan . If they wanted to try and stop them promoting international terrorism they should have strategically targeted the terrorist leadership . Long range bombing .

When they realised they stuffed up they should have planned a smart withdrawal to minimise the negatives . Not left in a shambolic rush leaving their kids and mates families there .

"I’ve read a lot of history. Both at undergrad and postgrad levels. I’ve got some time up applying it practically too. I’ve been to Afghanistan four times."

You must have done arts ( Gender Studies , Screen and Social Studies ? ) and been to Afghanistan for the poppies .

I suggest you read ( and try and comprehend ) The Art of War by Sun Tzu .

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etarip Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 11:49am

You’re shifting your position like a politician. I’ve read Art of War. And a few others. Suggest you do the same. And read up on the limitations of air strikes while you’re there.
Have a great Father’s Day Hutchy. We’re done.

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Hutchy 19 Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 12:00pm

I hope you have a good fathers day to . A special day .

A pity you did not comprehend what the book said especially about targeting the oppositions leaders .

There is always limitations of any strategy . Still some are much more effective than others .

Where ever you go don't be in a rush and forget the kids .

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Supafreak Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 3:33pm

5-B0-DAEE8-9-AFD-44-C9-AA7-D-BB15-AB7-EBFE8

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sypkan Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 6:20pm

classic supafreak

but, unfortunately, a little too close to the truth...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-poli...

seriously, how long do they think they can keep this little charade up?

he can't possibly make it to 2024

well he might, but geez he ain't gonna get any better... it'll be plain ugly elder abuse in another 2 years time

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 6:33pm
sypkan wrote:

classic supafreak

but, unfortunately, a little too close to the truth...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-poli...

seriously, how long do they think they can keep this little charade up?

he can't possibly make it to 2024

well he might, but geez he ain't gonna get any better... it'll be plain ugly elder abuse in another 2 years time

Ha ha that's gold.

It's crazy how out of a population of over 330 million people the USA gets Trump and then Biden as presidents.

The media though have gone so so easy on Biden, while it was the complete opposite with Trump.

I do really miss the Trump entertainment aspect though.

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sypkan Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 6:59pm

"It's crazy how out of a population of over 330 million people the USA gets Trump and then Biden as presidents."

good point, I'd already forgotten about trump... but when you put it in a sentence like that it is quite alarming, wtf is going on?

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Roker Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 7:13pm

Take the roll post Howard. We shouldn’t be throwing stones.

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sypkan Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 8:22pm

"Take the roll post Howard. We shouldn’t be throwing stones."

i dunno roker...

while that period is a revolving door of retardedness ...the periods and processes... not necessarily the people ...although...

none of those 'personalities' were anywhere near as dysfunctional as trump and biden...

back to back

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bluediamond Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 8:45pm

Ignore this hutch19 character crew. He's got issues. Just feeding his fire replying.

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megzee Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 9:11pm

+ 427....Blue Diamond
I called him out a month or so ago......opened up my SN sanctuary yesterday after a month and saw he was still spraying his shit.....
For Stu to call him out ......well that says it all now doesnt it..
Btw....the 427 is reference to the 67 shelby mustang engine...
His IQ has a decimal point
4.27
Hutch boy....comment...i dare ya....

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bluediamond Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 9:19pm

Good onya Megzee. Yeah figured as much. A lot of life is sucked out of the convos because of his/her incoherrent ramblings and attacks.
Gonna take a little hiatus til the coast is clear. Purely because its mind numbingly nauseating scrolling through his posts to find the real conversations around it. Good luck to all those still standing!! haha

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megzee Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 9:54pm

BD
Never ever argue with stupid people...
They will drag us down to their level....
And they win with experience...

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Supafreak Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 9:55pm

@megzee , you been MIA , was a bit concerned for awhile there . Hows things ? Fishing ? Surfing ?

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bluediamond Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 10:50pm

@megzee. True and wise words.

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megzee Sunday, 5 Sep 2021 at 11:07pm

Hey supafella
Not really missing in action old mate...
Just sitting back and watching the world unfold...
Strength of character is a great gift and does not always involve words
My dad told me that 5 and a half decades ago...
Hope you are well and safe mate

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Supafreak Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 6:10am

@megzee , all good at this end just some minor inconveniences at the moment with lockdowns. Families getting very wooly on top with hairdressers closed , Ive got a range of bowls but they won’t let me near them . Broke my expensive sunnys and thongs same day and can’t find a shop open to replace them . Surfs been ok and the left on the bar was breaking pretty good for awhile there . Anyway glad your relaxed in this mad mad world. Stay loose in the juice old mate .

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 8:14am

Just posted this thread but on reflection I should have posted it here where most of the discussion resides .

Do whatever you want BD .

Unfortunately you haven't answered important questions I have asked .

Most recently , have 85% of other people , not just whites , exhibited a racial action in their whole lives ? I will answer it . Yes . Most children for a start do .

What realistic things can all Australians do to reduce resentment in the Aboriginal communities ? Resentment is the MAJOR cause of substance addiction .

What would you think if I replaced Whitefella thinking with Blackfella thinking ?

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Hiccups Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 8:33am

Hey Hutchy. Why do you pop on in every thread sounding off like an authority on everything, when in reality you know very little about anything?

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D-Rex Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 8:46am
bluediamond wrote:

Ignore this hutch19 character crew. He's got issues. Just feeding his fire replying.

Is this the most blatant example of the pot calling the kettle black ever written?

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brutus Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 9:06am
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Hey Hutchy. Why do you pop on in every thread sounding off like an authority on everything, when in reality you know very little about anything?

he actually sounds like a narcissist , with a meth problem.......

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AlfredWallace Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 9:24am

Brutus. Here, here. Hutchy19, as I’ve mentioned previously, not the sharpest tool in the shed, actually a complete knob. Most comments he or she posts have racial, derogatory or xenophobic undertones. But, I’m sure he or she considers ones self to be the complete Australian who thinks they know everything about anything. Keep up the good work mate (Brutus).

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 11:06am

Why do you pop on in every thread sounding off like an authority on everything, - Thanks Hiccup !

Brutus - as you have decided to continue to abuse me I will change my mind and will comment on your posts . "he actually sounds like a narcissist , with a meth problem......."

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D-Rex Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 2:18pm

Brad F is a total fwit hutch (possibly BD in disguise) so I wouldn't pay him any attention. You'd expect brutus to be better than that but sadly, like BF and BD, he's obsessed with 'racism' too (despite the lavish and privileged lifestyle he enjoys).

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 2:42pm

Thanks Drex . We dinosaurs have very thick skin . Just checked Dbar web cam for a virtual surf . Only 2 guys in the water ! Must be a first on an ok day . I hope the reason is not shark related !

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brutus Monday, 6 Sep 2021 at 3:48pm
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LOL .....lavish /privileged , yep that's me....racism only becomes an issue when you try and comment !!

"Brad F is a total fwit hutch (possibly BD in disguise) so I wouldn't pay him any attention. You'd expect brutus to be better than that but sadly, like BF and BD, he's obsessed with 'racism' too (despite the lavish and privileged lifestyle he enjoys).

"

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san Guine Wednesday, 8 Sep 2021 at 8:44am

20 years, $US 2 trillion, countless lives and this is what we ended up with...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-08/taliban-announces-caretaker-gover...

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san Guine Saturday, 11 Sep 2021 at 7:43am

Stan (again) with a great overview on this fateful day. I 'm sure most of us remember where we were and what we were doing when news of the twin towers attacks came through.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-11/twenty-years-on-from-september-11...

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Hutchy 19 Saturday, 11 Sep 2021 at 10:03am

On Friday Russia’s Foreign Ministry summoned the US ambassador to Moscow, John Sullivan, over what's being widely reported as allegations of American "meddling" in upcoming Russian elections.

According to Reuters, "Russia summoned U.S. Ambassador John Sullivan on Friday over alleged interference by the United States in an election, Russian agencies TASS and RIA reported, quoting a diplomatic source."

Lets get Muller to investigate .

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udo Saturday, 11 Sep 2021 at 5:23pm

Drone Hit ......
https://www.nytimes.com/

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 13 Sep 2021 at 2:51pm

China's state-run Global Times tabloid, which is viewed as representing the view of Beijing if with a hyperbolic slant, published an op-ed from its editorial board on Wednesday vowing that China’s military will soon confront the U.S. in a hostile exchange, American Military News reported.

"The US will definitely see the PLA show up at its doorstep in the not-too-distant future," the op-ed said. “The two sides’ warships and aircraft on the seas will carry huge mutual strategic hostility, and the two countries will not yield to each other.”

"Once the situation gets out of control and triggers military clash between China and the US, we must give full play to our home field advantage. China will definitely win once there is a war,” the Global Times op-ed said.

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Hutchy 19 Friday, 17 Sep 2021 at 11:06am

Hillary Clinton-Linked Lawyer Indicted In Russiagate Probe
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BY TYLER DURDEN
THURSDAY, SEP 16, 2021 - 04:48 PM
Update (1645ET): A grand jury has indicted Michael Sussmann, the lawyer accused of making false statements during the 2016 presidential campaign to slander then-candidate Donald Trump in the final months of the election.

Sussmann, the indictment charges, “lied about the capacity in which he was providing ... allegations to the FBI” of potential cyber links between a Russian bank and a company owned by former president Donald Trump.

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Durham is pursuing a prosecutorial theory that Sussmann was secretly representing Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign, which was a client of Sussmann’s firm, these people said. -Washington Post

Notably, this is far from over as Special Counsel Durham;s office pointed out in the statement that the investigation is "ongoing."

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sypkan Monday, 20 Sep 2021 at 12:15am

this situation is truly bizarre

whatever your thoughts on the politics of the migrants... this is just insane... this cannot possibly be good political strategy...

and biden's answer... ban drones from flying over

its like biden and co. are trying to be as useless as possible, I honestly cannot fathom what it is they are thinking

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 20 Sep 2021 at 3:34pm

Agree totally that having porous boarders are a recipe for disaster . To do nothing ( drones are giving good pictures ) is MUCH worse !

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Hutchy 19 Monday, 20 Sep 2021 at 4:27pm
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Blowin Monday, 20 Sep 2021 at 4:39pm

Guaranteed that all the wait staff had to wear masks.

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Hutchy 19 Friday, 24 Sep 2021 at 1:59pm

The dirt could not be hidden forever . Read this today .

This guy works for Biden as Security Advisor . From Zerohedge .

Sullivan is facing scrutiny, sources say, over potentially false statements he made about his involvement in the effort, which continued after the election and into 2017. As a senior foreign policy adviser to Clinton, Sullivan spearheaded what was known inside her campaign as a “confidential project” to link Trump to the Kremlin through dubious email-server records provided to the agencies, said the sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.

Last week, Michael A. Sussmann, a partner in Perkins Coie, a law firm representing the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, was indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of making false statements to the FBI about his clients and their motives behind planting the rumor, at the highest levels of the FBI, of a secret Trump-Russia server. After a months-long investigation, the FBI found no merit to the rumor.

The grand jury indicated in its lengthy indictment that several people were involved in the alleged conspiracy to mislead the FBI and trigger an investigation of the Republican presidential candidate -- including Sullivan, who was described by his campaign position but not identified by name.

The Clinton campaign project, these sources say, also involved compiling a "digital dossier” on several Trump campaign officials – including Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, Paul Manafort, George Papadopoulos, and Carter Page. This effort exploited highly sensitive, nonpublic Internet data related to their personal email communications and web-browsing, known as Internet Protocol, or IP, addresses.

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Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 2:00pm
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Aussie, Aussie, Aussie!

https://www.crikey.com.au/2021/09/28/wikileaks-assange-allies-spied-on/

That’s out of control.

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Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 3:23pm

Allied to the above:

"His jailing also has nothing to do with the fact that Murray has embarrassed the British state more recently by reporting the woeful and continuing legal abuses in a London courtroom as Washington seeks to extradite Wikileaks’ founder, Julian Assange, and lock him away for life in a maximum security prison. The US wants to make an example of Assange for exposing its war crimes in Iraq and Afghanistan and for publishing leaked diplomatic cables that pulled the mask off Washington’s ugly foreign policy.

Murray’s jailing has nothing to do with the fact that the contempt proceedings against him allowed the Scottish court to deprive him of his passport so that he could not travel to Spain and testify in a related Assange case that is severely embarrassing Britain and the US. The Spanish hearing has been presented with reams of evidence that the US illegally spied on Assange inside the Ecuadorean embassy in London, where he sought political asylum to avoid extradition. Murray was due to testify that his own confidential conversations with Assange were filmed, as were Assange’s privileged meetings with his own lawyers. Such spying should have seen the case against Assange thrown out, had the judge in London actually been applying the law."

https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/08/03/the-jailing-of-craig-murray-anot...

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Hutchy 19 Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 7:46pm

Constance - now you can appreciate how Trump felt with the FBI proven to be targeting him illegally .

Also the CIA , Tax office , media , Big Tech and the leadership of the military . And people thought he acted paranoid .

The Democrats tried to impeach him for Russian collusion !!!!! All a big fat lie .

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indo-dreaming Wednesday, 29 Sep 2021 at 9:21pm
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Constance - now you can appreciate how Trump felt with the FBI proven to be targeting him illegally .

Also the CIA , Tax office , media , Big Tech and the leadership of the military . And people thought he acted paranoid .

The Democrats tried to impeach him for Russian collusion !!!!! All a big fat lie .

Your forgot the media and he was the president of the USA not some serial hacker, does my head in how he can get away without being sent to the USA, they shouldn't need to kidnap him he should have been in the USA years ago...either way dudes like a rat in cage.

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 10:55am

Hah! My Assange brings all the sea lions to the yard!

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Hutchy 19 Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 12:10pm

So it is YOUR Assange now is it . You cut and pasted the article .

Taking credit when it is not due will get this Sea Lion into the yard . A stickler for trying to do the right thing Connie .

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Constance B Gibson Thursday, 30 Sep 2021 at 2:14pm

You need a milkshake, Hutchy91.