Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 19 Feb 2021 at 2:13am

WHO grants AstraZeneca (S.Korea/ India)Emergency Authorization.

*India AZ -Covishield is under fire for 2 dozen Medicos deaths..
*AZ was cancelled in SA as being useless against Mild SA mutant Strain.
*India AZ is #1 WHO Multi nation Co/vax supplier to Poorer Nations

Today WHO approved AZ Covishield for SA variant Nations (Despite SA rejection)
AstraZeneca has Least "Efficacy on SA Mild Strain = 57%
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-16/who-approves-astrazeneca-covid-va...

OZ CMO : SA strain in (50 countries) will emerge as the predominant Strain
Obviously AstraZeneca is the last vax on Earth that any Nation would Rollout.

TGA immediately follow WHO AZ (S. Korea / India ) approval.
AstraZeneca approved for OZ 18-65 y/olds (65+ on case by case basis only)

22nd Feb Rollout - Phase 1a - Pfizer Vax
Israel - Prof Hunter / Brainard : "WARN of the risk of infection doubled in the first 8 days after Pfizer Vax!"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/03/one-pfizerbiontech-jab-giv...
Recent US, Germany, Israel cases point to same 8 day infection risk for 2nd dose.

CDC: 2nd dose - 10 days after is safe > 14 days is full immunity - 90 days.

Pfizer Vax needs 8 days Isolation from Malls / Mass Transit / Venues.
Double virulent Pfizer 8 Covid must be treated as a risk alongside Mutants.

Don't expect Oz Govt-Media to inform or debate double strength Pfizer 8 strain.
Australian CMO: "We just approved the weakest Vax for Strongest Strain!"
($24m Vax bribe News)....Fab Rollout! Big Tick! Gold Stars! **Polls Skyrocket* *

Medical Clinic receipts
Covid Tests $100- ($200m for Lib Aspen) 100 x Pop Up Covid respiratory clinics
Covid Vaxes $35-$50 (max) x 2 - No Money for Non Lib GP Pathology Pop Ups
GP's say they lose money at this price + Zero a/h funding
There's a bit of angst from GPs claiming Hospitals get the lions share.
Govt says GP's will do the heavy lifting...but that also don't add up!

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 4:37pm

With the AZ getting the green light the media focus will be all over this now and treatment drugs they labeled as quack treatments will be forgotten even though the rest of the world is embracing them . As I’ve said before ,maybe the government didn’t want any distractions when it came to the vaccine and if it was proven that you could stop the lockdowns as Borody suggested back in August with his triple therapy then the government would look pretty stupid for ignoring him . I’m glad they have a vaccine now that is 100% effective , it’s still wait and see as far as transmission goes but hopefully it’s a winner. Here’s some links on more countries and trials for ivermectin as a early treatment. https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMmMw... https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMmJm... https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMmJm....

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Distracted commented Wednesday, 17 Feb 2021 at 8:23am

I’m still unsure on the whole vaccination thing but early results from Israel are looking good.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/middle-east/is-israel-a-preview-of-australi...

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 17 Feb 2021 at 4:36pm
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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 20 Feb 2021 at 2:08am

Post Vax Lyrical.(Bumper Weekend Edition)
Might not look like it, but tbb is trying to gather post vax protocol...hard work!

Israel Vax lowers cases & severity & that's good but Vax Covid Lite is up 200%.
UK agree their Lockdowns can lower cases at same rate so won't shout too loud.

Israel Vax Mandate creeps in by fortnightly instalments ...slowly but surely...
Vax Law > Travel, Events, Teachers, Worship & soon all public employment.

17th Feb Israel Covid Stats...
77% 3/4 were under 40 y'o (Younger Non Vaxed are "representing" higher in stats)
40% (Serious cases were also younger)
5.5% 1/95 were over 60 y'o (Senior vaxed are "representing" far less in stats)
Again ...Stats show they had no visitors & isolated during lockdown
tbb showed those to example how Vax Rollout governs or distorts Covid cases
A plain but insightful intro into our soon post vax world.

17th Feb -Non (vs) Fully Vaxed Control Group Studies
528,000 (Non Vaxed) 20,621 (3.9%) contracted Covid
602,000 (Fully Vaxed) 608 (1/1000) contracted Covid...
Vaxed Breakdown : 580-Mild / 21 Hospital / 7 severe
https://www.jpost.com/health-science/coronavirus-nearly-four-out-of-five...

Analysis:
Israel boast Vax is reducing Covid to excuse World superspreader Passes.
However! Israel must tread carefully.
3rd Feb - 240,000 (Fully Vaxed) show 1/3,237 cases > 17th Feb 1/1,000 cases
Several Doctors stated it will fall to 1/20 vaxerz spreading...(Wow!..but How?)

US - CoVPN - Vax spreaderz study has not been granted as yet! (Seems a bid odd!)
Everyone: "How long does Covid Vax last?" (US Govt : Apparently not interested!)
Ex cases build Mucosal Antibodies...Science have no evidence that Vax does this.
The Vax brainwashes innocents into Zombies that can now spread without trace...
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/yes-you-should-still-wear-...

So why did Israel & CDC race to the Travel Pass...durr! It's not Concorde science!

Note Vaxed Hospital Staff + Aged Care (Contain the disease in 100% sterile sites)
This population is least likely to travel or congregate outside of own groups.
They were sitting ducks for covid but equally lame carrier pigeons for Vax Covid
Switch as Covid Youth spread invincible devil may care Vax Covid spreaderz.
Many vax zombies don't count in Covid Stats but they spread the virus...

Big BUT. Big Pharm is also concerned by Vax Covid clusters in dormant Age Care.
https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-digest-german-nursing-home-sees-outbre...

As Israeli Vax phases ventured into more mobile vaxed pop, cases rose by (200%)
Crew sees, as Mobile workers & students get vaxed > Contamination increases.
As said the effect is less severe on vaxed individuals but that will fade with efficacy.

Israel race to stamp [ Emergency Vax Pass ] in a race against time for Election.
QR codes > Photo shopped by 10,000's > (Telegram)100,000 Pass buyers @ $300
Israel's Green Passport 'QR Code failed.' (May need a Digital Signature).
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/.premium-anyone-can-fake-i...
Nations with Vax Passes also roll out same QR Code fails..($300 buys a Vax Pass)

Waning immunity Vax Pass as Mobile population spread increases
Science shows stats but fails to calculate increasingly mobile Rollout population. eg:
June -1 vax case /3 planes > Sept -3 vax cases /plane > Dec -15 vax cases/plane
Each month passes, more mobile covid returns by infection strength / rate / severity.
More mobile means, vaxed think if they Test Negative then they can't spread Covid.
Guess What! Govt know shit & can't command their Zombies to Wake Up!
Scovid super Zombie spreader & his Play school ABC...Wot! (Wake the Fuck Up!)

Don't delay important travel decisions...(Plan yer Strike Mission)
Post Pfizer Vax Fax
8 days is 2x virulent > 10-12 days = immunity > CDC 14 days is safe + full efficacy

WHO advise against [Vax Pass]
CDC - 14 days > 90 days max > (This is the only scientific guarantee! )
Israel - 8 days >(No Q) 6 months expire
https://corona.health.gov.il/en/directives/vaccination-certificate/
Australia - 8 + 2 data days > (No Q for o/s vax Students) open expiry (PM: No idea!)
World #1 Oz stamps POV before the Vax is even effective...(Hardly best Science?)
That & the fact Oz has no POV Use by Date....(PM: #1 Regulators? Don't see it!)

tbb thinks this rather innocent Smart Vax contacts you for reactions...(Who knew!)
https://www.smartvax.com.au/

World Position
(Godz / Olympia only accept wealthy vaxerz > Poor non vaxed scum go to Hell.)
https://www.adalovelaceinstitute.org/project/international-monitor-vacci...

Oz POV (Proof Of Vax Cert link)
Robbo: "I urge Aussies to sign over your [My Health] records to Lib Donors!"
{Warning} Robbo's MyGov Borg assimilation Pharms out family's Medicare Cards.
Once signed - Kids www searches / MyHealth are leased to Lib' Corps / Bosses.
https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/individuals/news/get-ready-your-cov...
https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/organisations/about-us/corporate-pu...
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/breaking-news/government-urges-public-t...
Feds run arrivals > States can fight over venues/pub/AgeCare/Border lockouts etc...

Govt & Media could and should inform Oz Families of Rollout breakups.
Rollout will separate Family Visits & Gatherings by [ Vax Pass ]

Oz Family Vax Timetable Visiting Hours...
1a : Vaxed Age Care will lock out all visitors by Age (All non vaxed Banned)
1b : 70+ (2 months approx) Once vaxed can visit Gran
2a : 50+ (4 months approx) Once vaxed can vist Gran
2b : 18+ (By then Age Care Vax has lost 90 day immunity...Close all visits)
3 : Kids can't Visit Grandma without a vax + again once vax wears off (90 days)
Note Kids can't travel (Some Nations demand 12 y/o Tests others Masks!)
[ Vax Pass ] needs rock solid expiry date so families can plan visits & Xmas!
No Use By Date will separate families...Nope! Don't expect Scomo to care one bit!

Either way... do yer travelling ASAP after vax to stay safer.

(Reasons)100 immunologists / virologists...Say we gotta live with it!
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00396-2
89% Endemic
71% Immune Escape
59% Waning Immunity
45% Uneven Vax Distribution
37% Vax resistance
29% Lack of Political Will (Pollies ignore Top 4 Fixes & blame anti vaxerz)
14% Animal Reservoirs
5% Other

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Supafreak commented Saturday, 20 Feb 2021 at 6:16am

In this broadcast there is a lot of useful information on long haul covid , different stages of covid explanation , treatment protocols , what’s happening around the world. https://youtu.be/SrTGOoBjvyo

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 20 Feb 2021 at 4:27pm

No Vax No Beer for U70 > U60 > U50 > U18 > U 70 > U 60 > U50 > U18 > U70 ..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9280079/Australians-banned-goin...

Slim Dusty saw the day coming...POV on Tap Outback
Ain't nuthin' more lonesome along a dry dusty road
Than a Pub with a Vax Code where no Beer flowed.

Phase 1 Fake POVer : "Pot O' Vax & Packet of Chips & show us yer smile Luv!"
Maskless Barmaid : "You dirty old Bugger...give you a right Bar Code 'n' all."

Phase 2 Underage Fake POVer : "One Full Strength Mutant Slushie...Pleeze Miss!"
Maskless Barmaid : "You little shit...i'll give ya some dregz of Astra Lite!"

Pub Manager interjects.."Hold Up Punk! Quit staring at the Barmaids smile!"
"This is a Fake Fake Fake POV QR code ...You look closer to 16 not 76...Bouncers!"
Underage POVer : "Oi! You bouncers can't stick one of those pointy things...."

Banned from the Pubs...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaJ-kdqnvA4
Wait long enough & Safety Pinned Punkz are Exempt...durr!

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Blowin commented Saturday, 20 Feb 2021 at 4:01pm

It’s funny cause it’s true

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 20 Feb 2021 at 4:23pm

Pete's fire breathing Dragon get's let off the leash....has a run 'round the park.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9280627/Anti-vax-protesters-out...

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Supafreak commented Saturday, 20 Feb 2021 at 6:43pm

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 12:07am

Vax Good News
https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-an...
Pfizer joke is over! "You can store vax for 2 weeks in yer Beer fridge/freezer."
Of course #1 regulators sussed that...who would be so stupid to buy Cyro freezers.
Even Better News...
Oz Rollout Special on 200 / $20k Cyro beer freezers + $1,000 power bill vouchers!

Trust
Oz vax trust is sliding #1 fastest in the world & that's well before Covid.
#1 Oz regulated Vax = #1 least trusted Vax in the World...No secret as to why!
Outside Vax box ....tbb meets Aussie Flu vaxerz but not one wants a Covid Vax.
tbb was overwhelmed & thought, does that reflect reality?
All cite Govt lies & mistrust...Claiming the Vax was rushed & not tested enough.
ANU (4,000) Aug-Jan Oz definitely getting vax declined from 58.5% > 43.7%
Women 39.9% were least keen + Individuals were now 31.9% less willing to Vax.
Oz Anti Vaxerz (MSM) majority can mandate to deport insignificant VIP Vaxerz.
Antivaxerz are no longer fringe but Moral Majority pointing to minority Devil Vaxerz.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/feb/19/more-than-20-of-a...

GP's are flooded with scared Vax patients...all parties cite lack of Govt information.
Same time GP's are gearing up to work extra hours with no Clinic Upgrades.
They get $10 kick if they jab twice but already need 10x that from Rollout angst.
You will read similar criticism from our Super Top Vaxerz & brewers below....

It's not #1... in fact Govt bullying lowers medical standards below other Nations.
It is far from healthy & smacks of desperation....There's No leadership whatsoever!
Any idiot can see why 61% of Mothers of our Nation dumped Scomo for Pete!
Media reckon it's never ever Scomo's fault...as they hunt down Pete's Dragon.

Rules: No Vax No play / No Vax No Beer / No Vax No Fly / No app No Footy
Of course it's not China...[ Advertise Medicare details on Robbo's Ebay or No Vax ]

#1 Oz Vaxers are also #1 Anti Oz Vax Rollout ...crew can easily understand why!

14th Feb - Religion aborts Evil Monkey Twin aborted fetus Vax
https://www.smh.com.au/national/churches-on-collision-course-with-the-go...

Scovid : " #1 World Safe Vax Rollout (Cough! Cough!)"
TGA : "Decisions on vaxing Over 65 & Frail will be made on a case by case basis."
ANZ Obstetricians : "Order to keep Pfizer away from Oz Pregnant Woman."
All spread days 1-8 Pfizer Covid to win a POV before it's safe to have one! (Classic!)
GP's still have not been informed of next months Rollout inclusion...Whenever!
Nurse Practitioners were cut out of Rollout for Scomo's cheapie [457] Nurses
https://www.croakey.org/why-arent-nurse-practitioners-involved-in-the-co...
Libs contract own Boat People Smugglerz to Vax Aged Care & Aboriginals.
This Lib' Aspen Vax Tax Free pocket money gets returned to Lib Party...Sorted!
Vax Rollout International Aspen + [457] FIFO clear Oz Govt from litigation!
Scomo : 'What Vaxerz Mate...wherever they came from, they can't harm you now!'

8th Jan 2021
https://www.labonline.com.au/content/life-scientist/article/aus-covid-19...
UNSW Biosecurity Prof MacIntyre
AZ may not protect Border Workers against infection.
AZ is not efficacious enough for Herd Immunity

Syd Uni Prof Leask :
Holds concern over Vax Rollout Coordination with States
Govt should be more forthcoming about Planning Detail to gain Public Trust.
We need to see much more frequent communication.
Compliment: "Efficacy isn't everything, being able to reasonably deliver counts."

Oz Vaxine - Prof Petrovsky
Vaxes were approved prematurely & may induce negative public ramifications!
Oz has minimal Covid Transmission so benefit is questionable as to risk.
Absence of nRNA + Viral Vector safety Data makes safety approval questionable.
Major unanswered questions on effectiveness + No proof on stopping transmission
Vaxes Block Symptoms that may lead to untold untraceable Quarantine Outbreaks
Vaxed [+] asymptomatic Age Care workers present higher risk to patients.
Hard to justify EUA in Oz context when proven polices can buy time to study data.

13th Jan 2021
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1791736/world
ANZ (ASI) Prof Turner
AZ is not likely to provide Herd Immunity. ( Pivot Govt towards Moderna /Pfizer )
Would not be deploying a 62% efficacy vax

26th Jan 2021
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/science/astrazeneca-on-defensive-as-con...
AMJ Prof Talley
" AZ vax Data is poor on Elderly!"
"Urgently need all the unpublished data on elderly!"

Syd Uni Prof Cunningham
"Not enough AZ testing on Elderly!"
"We expect vax to be less effective in elderly!"

No one tbb knows, ever mention or knows any anti vaxers nor visit their sites.
tbb had less trouble sourcing these complaints as to half decent Govt Vax info!
100% Fear of Vax Rollout is constant thru-out...lying, bulling Unaustralian Lib Govt.

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shoredump commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 8:20am

Once quarantine and healthcare workers have been vaccinated, the chances of an outbreak will decline dramatically.

“That’ll be the biggest, most important thing ... That’s where we’ve had all of our issues. Getting those first groups done – which in Queensland is 37,000 [people] – that will probably prevent the need for border closures and lockdowns and those things, because we’ll have removed the risk.”

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batfink commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 9:13am

Such a funny forum. Contradictory ideas posted from one page to the next, often the same person contradicting themselves. Calls for unproven and untested drugs to be used as a treatment, or is it a preventative (can’t be both!) in preference to a hurried but properly tested vaccines.

Calls for an inquiry about why something didn’t happen 6 months ago while we’re trying to roll out the biggest, quickest vaccine hit in history. Answer is clear, because it hadn’t been through rigorous testing, and yes, it’s a head lice treatment among other anti-parasitic uses.

Marches from anti-vaxxers complaining they don’t want to get vaccinated, when it is clear that nobody will be required to get a vax.

“What do want? What we’ve been given. When do we want it? Now!”

Funny.

Get used to it, if you want to fly you’re probably going to have to get vaxxed. Your choice, jab and fly or no jab and no fly. Risk of plane falling out of sky higher than risk of death from vaccine, you do the math. That isn’t fascism, that is a public company making rules on the use of its product and managing the risks to consumers, and to their reputation.

Short term return to ‘everything is normal’ is pie in the sky. Expect years of adjustment to a new normal. Maybe we just end up living with it, like the flu, but with a batch of vaxes, plus extended treatment options and better knowledge and protocols in hospitals.

Regardless of opinion, the best outcome is for vaxes to work and eradicate the disease before it becomes endemic. There is still a window of opportunity for that, but it is closing fast. Many experts believe we may have missed that boat, but worth trying for.

SARS-1 was like that, basically eradicated before it got hold. More transmissible virus meant greater range and spread for Covid-19.

If you haven’t worked it out yet, we are in a living lab experiment. Even before Covid that was true. If you are looking for some risk free option, it ain’t out there. It never was actually.

Good luck out there.

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 10:16am

"Marches from anti-vaxxers complaining they don’t want to get vaccinated, when it is clear that nobody will be required to get a vax.

“What do want? What we’ve been given. When do we want it? Now!”

Funny."

Ha ha so true, was thinking exactly the same watching the news last night.

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shoredump commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 11:03am

It begins


Lowering the virus to less than cold like symptoms is the most recent forecast I’ve read

That lemonade will do I reckon

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 12:02pm

Nice, good to see it's started.

And before anyone says: Oh but Scomo got the Pfizer one and we are getting the AstraZeneca, apparently politicians and health ministers etc won't all be getting one or the other to show the public they are happy to take either, for instance i think the Health minister is getting the AstraZeneca.

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Supafreak commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 12:33pm

@batfink. 26-D58131-4-EC8-460-B-8263-F807082-F62-E8

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Blowin commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 3:46pm

Ask yourself- Are you scared enough ?

Lock. Us. Down. Now !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Blowin commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 4:38pm

Lock . Us. Down .Now !!!!!!!!!

Protect us from the homicidal virus which indiscriminately kills 0.02 percent of people* !

*Average 2.8 comorbidities including obesity, chronic diabetes, cancer, heart disease in conjunction with extreme old age.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 7:00pm

Please, please, please lock us in our homes to save us from the smart and deadly COVID virus which maliciously lays in wait for us to become cancer ridden 85 year olds before it pounces like a Sabre toothed tiger for the deadly deadly kill !!!!!

Lock. Us.Down. Now !!!!!!!

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Blowin commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 4:51pm

Have we learnt nothing from the many citizens of Wuhan filmed collapsing into sudden lifeless death from the deadly virus at the first outbreak ? Even masks couldn’t prevent their sudden lifeless death and becoming immediate corpses !!!!!!!!! Did we not learn to PANIC ?

Save us !!!!!!!

Lock.Us.Down !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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shoredump commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 5:06pm

My dog groomer is South African, he was telling me about his brother’s workplace which is a university over there. Covid swept through the place at the end of last year, killing 14 of his friends and colleagues. Not 14 got covid, 14 died, in the space of about a week.

It’s hard to relate to what’s going on in other parts of the world from over here

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Rabbits68 commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 5:15pm

Hey Blowin, if you don't mind sharing, how did you actually break your hand a little while back? Wasn't whilst trying to take that contraption off your head was it? Looks tricky :-))

Pristine

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Supafreak commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 5:27pm

Have to agree shoredump, it’s not in our face like other countries , the long covid which hasn’t got a lot information about it is also a big problem and it’s affecting younger people. It’s a bizarre virus in that it doesn’t have any effect on many but can leave others sick on and off for months. There’s plenty of healthy people with no pre existing conditions that have long covid. With Australians only living with lockdowns and social distancing rules people are pissed off and I understand their scepticism but the reality is it’s a disease you don’t want to get even with such a high survival % , you don’t want long covid. https://theconversation.com/amp/how-many-people-get-long-covid-and-who-i...

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 21 Feb 2021 at 5:40pm

Sat-NZ start Rollout...next Please

Sunday
PM: Yer hava go & you the Jump Queue...just showing ya precisely what not to do!
What was hidden from view is Oz #1 wasteful display of needed World Vaccines
2/7 of Scomo's Shots binned or 28.5% of OZ Pfizer Vax get tossed in the Bin
Covid Sewage Watcherz are in for a treat! (Ask where do Libs dump '30% of Vax!)
https://7news.com.au/sunrise/on-the-show/global-syringe-shortage-means-p...

Just saying folks...It's all a trick of the eye!
Some see a courageous Leader taking one for the Team.
tbb sees #1 cue jumper pissing away a third of OZ Vaccine.
#1 Monsta Govt Med Storage....(Box of Dead Space Needles, Please ! Wot the Wot)
PM failed to score Dead Space needles so had to fork out extra Pfizer to waste.
Yes! We discussed this often enough & just assumed our #1 Experts had it sorted.

Is tbb missing something or is this #1 Media Spin again!
Vax Rollout is over before it begun thanx to Thick as Shit Daggy Dad's Army

Greenies are biggest Vax supporters > 570,000 doses of Pfizer goes in the Bin.
570,000 x $26 dose = Tomorrows Front Page { PM's $14,820,000 Pfizer Vax Jab }
Just Joking ...Scomo's Play School can bury Covid Truths in the ABC sand pit!
Bill the Steam Shovel is right now digging up Scovid's yard for the toxic waste tip.
World's #1 vaxerz = World's #1 Wasteful Vax Rollout...Yeah! Team Oz!

If democracy counts, then biggest Uni Poll shows Antivaxerz are now majority.
More Alarming fact that Minority Vaxers will conceal Covid from innocent Majority
Govt then Ramps the Fear factor...
#1 Oz regulators relese POV whilst Travellers are in still in a highly Virulent State.
CDC /WHO / Pfizer don't approve Oz 8-10 day virulent super spreading POV.

Feeding Pete's Dragon pales to Govt's untraceable super spreader POV
God Squad VIP's also aborted Devilish abortion Vax communion.

If we have shitty Vaxes that have killed near on 2,000 & counting... lets discuss?
So if POV is deemed more harm than good, then what use is it to Oz Govt...

Vax is not Mandatory but Oz Govt Mandate POV. (Without POV you're fucked)
My Health Vax is a [ Mandatory ] Medicare borg assimilation to MyGov Robbo Debt
https://www1.racgp.org.au/newsgp/professional/new-laws-make-vaccination-...
Govt [Mandates] POV Parents to sell Children's future to bidding Lib Donors
Quote: "Searches you Make, Pages You Visit, Your Interactions" (Here / Us / Now)
Exactly right...Wasted Vax all of it is shit, they want to Pimp your Borg Assimilation.
https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au/organisations/about-us/corporate-pu...

Robbo is voted most likely to strand Aussies POVless thru Crash Phases 1/2/3/4
All of Oz are MyGov Crash Test Dummies...Switch on = Legal / Switch off = Illegal
Crash no Gig / Sports - Crash No Licence..more often than not during rort season.
Yep! Crash! All MyGov yuppies driving unlicensed with Cops handing out fines.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/mandatory-service-nsw-check-in-app-s...

Soon POV Bio Security from Day Care > Uni /Work Place > Venues > Flight Arrivals
All Qld / NSW demand Borg Assimilation to enter Towns/Events or Transit.

Fake Rapid Tests plague #1 Mutant Airports $230 Econ > $465 1st Class.
Denmark banned Dodgy Dubai Airport serving up Aspen's AO Mutant outbreak
Fake $300 VIP POV's outnumber vaxers of younger set...(Mossad surrendered!)
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/tech-news/.premium-anyone-can-fake-i...
Clive's Lawyers are gearing up to Sue the World...I Paid for my POV Here & Here
Dutto will hand out the Melosi Ham to 1 millionth Fake POV

Undetectable Aged Care Vax Outbreaks
If 1/2 Vax Doses trigger Worldwide Deadly Aged Care Outbreaks... Let's Discuss?
https://uploads-ssl.webflow.com/5fa5866942937a4d73918723/601ffc3e56a6413...

Lib' People Smugglerz & [457] bully our Nurses outta Vax Rollout ...Rort Level rises.
Scomo's pea brain Address ('UK are shit! Oz #1) don't amount to brain farts.

56.3% of Oz are now Antivaxerz & want #1 Scientists & Nurses for Rollout.
#1 Experts state the Facts + detail concerns & give answers...we want them.

Remove Scomo's #1 Rorters , Wet Market Comforters & People Smuggler Quacks.
These arseholes are throwing away a near third of our vaxes...a wasteful display.

WHO : Greatest battle of Rich (vs) Poor is on it's way unless VIP's backdown.
Poor people don't even know what VIP doses 6/7 even mean & never will.
https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/France-condemns-Covid-vaccin...

POV [457] School Bouncer bioscans Grom'z Jar of Mutant Tadpoles....
Dutto : "That's alright, settle down Igor...that's just my Lunch!"
Full Oz Social Credit Borg Assimilation as China posts Dutto a Xmas Party Card!

OZ PM : How good are VIP rorted, selfish, greedy, wasteful rollouts.

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 25 Feb 2021 at 10:30am

So Funny superfreak ...Go easy on Titan Cam...it's his first border run.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/urA0Wh0w62Q/hqdefault.jpg

Exclusive VIP {POV} Calendar (b00bs)
Sports Finals (Both Vaxes)

PM's **Starshot** fizzles out before Olympics & Footy Finals
Pfizer Vax Dose 1 = 119 days Immunity
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2032195
Pfizer Vax Dose 2 = 90 days Immunity {POV} = 90 days
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/clinical-considera...

12th June [90 Days expiry] Leaves Scomo outta juice...
a) PM re-stamps his {POV} to (Untested) 6 months
b) Vax 3 Rollout (90 days reset)

*Phase 1a -Sports Mad {POV} Calendar for Pfizer Frontline & Hodads...
(1-2 doses 3/4 wks max + 8-10 days hold > 90 days clear from 2nd vax date)

23rd July Olympics Surf > CDC {POV} Vax - 24th April > 15th June
24th Sept AFL > CDC {POV} Vax - 24th June > 17th Aug
3rd Oct NRL > CDC {POV} Vax - 5th July > 26th Aug
2nd Nov CUP + Qantas o/s > CDC {POV} - 4th Aug > 25th Sept
Pfizer 1 >2 @ 3-4wks +10 days before departure buys US 90 days from 2nd shot.

Note crew can pencil in own event by using swellnet guide.
*Tip: Lock in earliest date x 2 doses to head off Finals Queues (Shh! swellnet only)

AZ will dose closer to 4 weeks but blow out doses to 12 weeks near Finals Run.
[Pre Rollout News] Oct Dose 1 Deadline has Blown out already > Nov AZ Dose 2
Govt may approve 1 Dose Footy {POV} Only the early birds will get 2 doses
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/astrazeneca-vaccine-approved-pav...

Phase 1b Sports Mad Calendar for AstraZeneca losers...(That's Us)
AZ also refer to 90 day immunity as with Pfizer > basis for a solid 90 day {POV}
Travel Industry push a 6month {POV} but has zero science cred (for now!)
AZ (1-2 doses 4-12 weeks + 8-10 days Hold > 90 days clear from 2nd vax date )

23rd July Olympics Surf - AZ {POV} Vax - 20th April > 15th June
24th Sept AFL - AZ {POV} Vax - 22nd June > 17th Aug
3rd Oct NRL - AZ {POV} Vax - 1st July > 26th Aug
2nd Nov - CUP + Qantas o/s -AZ {POV} Vax- 31st July >25th Sept
Note: Qantas US entry > AstraZeneca Lite is not approved in US

Obviously timetable yer Age bracket.
Reminder to lock in earlier dates to secure 2nd dose ahead of Rollout Blowout.
Also remind that either side of those dates falls outside of CDC {POV} accreditation.
CDC (90 days)being the only guideline that Private Security can rule by!

WHO hate {POV} & warn Untraceable VIP's will spread Covid faster.

{POV} Oz Politics...CMO / Feds / NSW are on board....Squish them like Bugz!
Border States hate {POV} (vs) Open Border NSW are pushin' Shops to adopt it!
tbb referred earlier, a cup of Coffee & Robbo is fingering yer Medicare Honey Pot.
Flash yer {POV} app & sell yer Kidz www Future to Lib Mobsterz Menu Log!
Mum! "Another Birthday card from Uncle Robbo...did you sign away my life?"

National Cabinet will soon agree on {POV} Mandate in State Venues.
tbb examples other Nation's similar {POV} Mandates

Need {POV} > (Flights-Borders / Schools / Unis / Stadiums / Theatre / Water Parks)
Aged Care / First Nation Communes / Work / Clubs / Pubs / Cafes (Dogs Welcome)

All can spread [+] Transit / Courts / Libraries / Museums / Churches / Funerals

Calendar is more up in the air than iron clad but it passes the Pub Test for drunks.

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 23 Feb 2021 at 2:08am

AstraZeneca also known as (The Shelf Warmer) or (The Cherry Pickers)
CMO / Health Minister / PM peddle AZ elixir, nervously looking over their shoulder.
Chem warehouse full of Oz Lead Scientists are questioning AstraZeneca rollout.
That's just the tip of the AZ Iceberg...

tbb rolls out a double dose of AstraZeneca Truth Serum with zero side effects!

Crew deserve an explosive start...
'Youth suffer more Vax side effects than Seniors due to active immune systems!'
Linda Blair has a wild immune system but claims the AstraZeneca spun her out.
[Liberal] Phase 1 - Teenage Exorcisms...Cat 5 Vax {< 1.5m >} Fear Factor

AZ - South Africa have tried desperately, but can't unload their AZ Lite. (Take it!)
#1 India AZ 'Covishield Lite' brewed the pissy batch but refuse to take it back!
India are tryin' to flog the same AZ Covishield Lite to Canada (see below)

2nd Feb China to brew 400m AZ doses
UK -AZ 2nd doses begin Rollout (Again! UK bury the stats & hide the news!)
13th Feb India records 27 deaths from AZ Covishield Lite
https://pib.gov.in/PressReleasePage.aspx?PRID=1697804
15th Feb WHO approved AZ Covishield Lite + SKBio AZ for Covax Lucky Dip.
16th Feb WHO deal is icing on the cake for $24m package for AZ CEO
https://www.fiercepharma.com/pharma/astrazeneca-hands-ceo-21-5m-pay-for-...
16th Feb Oz approves AZ Lite.
17th Argentina AZ arrives.
17th Japan AZ Approval + 20th - Manufacture 40m doses for people.
18th Brazil Approves AZ
18th Mexico AZ plant needs some work...again.
https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/astrazeneca-shot-production-l...
18th Feb Belgium AZ Plant ramps into overdrive to fight off EU law suits
https://www.fiercepharma.com/manufacturing/amid-astrazeneca-s-eu-vaccine...
19th AZ fined $5m for bribing Russia & China
https://www.industryweek.com/leadership/corporate-culture/article/219800...
26th South Korea AZ Rollout

EU vaxers refuse AstraZeneca appointments
AZ side effects on Med staff shutdown 1/10 Covid Health Clinics
EU Health Authorities issue WARNING to stagger Health Worker Rollout.

Sweden : Fever in 100/400 + 25% frontline affected pausing 2/21 AZ Clinics
France : 10-15% (10 hrs) AZ Side effects (149/10,000 alerts) stronger than Pfizer.
Perigueux Hospital 50-70% staff side effects (request swap for Pfizer/ Moderna)

Austria : Vienna Hospital 500 signed Protest against AZ Vax to score some Pfizer.

German Health Minister:
Essential Heath Workers are refusing to get their AstraZeneca jab.
One unit - 40% called in sick with the Flu after Thursday vax (Long w'e > Mon.)
Tegal Vax Centre (Smoker's Lounge) dreams of 200 / 3,800 daily appointments
https://www.dw.com/en/covid-astrazeneca-vaccine-remains-unpopular-in-ger...
Rhine health workers cancelled 600 AZ jabs in 5 days.
EU refuses vax choice > Berlin allowed choice - needing a mix'n'match solution.
Germany now look certain to tempt potential AZ weaklings with a Pfizer kicker...
Berlin Mayor is threatening to send them all to the back of queue.
Pollies, Doctors & Health Officials plead people to take the AZ vax...Pretty Please!

Experts say fuck the VIP Doctors, bring on Phase Zd aborted fetuses to have a Jab!
"WOT!" I think they're already in the needle Mr Shouty...that's half yer problem?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/19/german-politicians-counter...

Belgium Health Workers are also protesting being given the AZ Vax.
Flemish Hospital Staff threaten to strike if they're made to shoot up AZ.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1400907/AstraZeneca-vaccine-germ...

Sweden, Italy & Bulgaria are also boycotting the Vax.

Astrazeneca has slowed EU rollout in every way...(Less Staff /Patients/More effects)
Desperate Official: "It is wrong that AstraZeneca is available but being wasted..."
Delayed maybe or not UK 2nd Dose is now under attack as being a disincentive.
https://www.wionews.com/world/astrazeneca-vaccine-faces-resistance-in-eu...

(Earlier) Germany Health - (AZ efficacy) 56-69 > 8% / 65+ > 6.3% / 70+ > 3-4%
Possibly why German Medicos say that no vax spreads slower & with less harm.
https://www.pharmexec.com/view/efficacy-controversy-hits-european-covid-...

March - Canada may break with US & sign to AZ ( Hanging out for Mutant Drop)
End of March AZ India SII ( Doubles production from 50m > 100m doses/month)
Watch this space as talk of long AZ 12 week wait is baulking 2nd dose vaxers.
https://www.orfonline.org/expert-speak/shortages-pinch-while-the-world-a...
End March - Aussie AZ Lite Rollout

April...US may Sign with AZ but will want the Mutant Brew recipe (Guarantee)

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 23 Feb 2021 at 8:30pm

Vax Rollout Curtain Raiser +{ Grand Final }
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-22/australian-open-crowd-boos-at-men...
Rollout is secure for now, as that was not the voice of Oz but Serbia's antivaxerz
1) Chix Speech > (Boo) Aussie men wouldn't Boo a Chick > Much!
2) Vax Rollout > (Boo) Kosovo Serb's are 89.6% Anti Vax.(vs) Rollout
3) Vic Govt > (Boo) Young Male Serb Fans > Far Right (Booing 4 Jam!)
4)Tiley 2022 A0 Vax > (Boo) #1 Serb Athlete is a real Man not a Vax Poster Boy.

Is it really that easy to write off a minority as right wing Anti Vaxerz

Lies, TV Lies and Statistics...Do you want a Covid Vax (Yes) 71% (No) 68%
Both stats are legit & can be cross checked, how can both be right or wrong...
Trick Question: Idiot box is brainwashed to beam just one, don't touch yer dial.

Crew guessed well to suss the Answers have been crafted to suit each Agenda...

Vax Polls 'Case for the Negative' (No)
(Key words : "Safety / Definitely / Emergency" ramps pressure to lower Vax %)
Honesty / Info drives down Vax support...obvious to any researching these Vax Polls.
EU largest Vax spoilerz are Doctors not Anti Vaxerz...that's a glaring fact.

Q: Do you approve of getting an Emergency Vax?
WA : (No) 68% > Men 43% / Other 1% / Woman 24% (30-39 y'o -Highest%)
[Factcheck] Oz has no Emergency Vaxes only 2x TGA fastracked [P] Vaxes.

Oddly the stark % Emergency response acts like a truth serum...Watch Again!

ABC Poll :
Is the Vax Safe? (No) 60% This won't come as a shock result to Govt!
Potential effects 82% / Untested 67% + Prefer Vax by GP 61% / Dept Health 58%

The Lancet - Are Vaccines Safe (Australia) 2015/ 60-69% > 2018/ 50-59%
Effective > Up 10% + Important > Up 10% + Safe (Nope -Down 10%) Bingo!
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31558-0/fulltext

ABC : Will you get the Vaccine as soon as it's available to you...NO..52%
Essential Poll : Prefer Rollout by States 44% / Federal Govt 38%
2021 Vax year - Better Off after Vax 47% / Vax stops the Virus 58%

Roy Morgan : Strongly Support Vax 41% (Down 10%) + 18-64 =53% / Qld 52%
IP Uni UK -Oz Results = Would you get the Vax - 50.3%
ANU = Would you definitely get the Vax 43.7%

Clever crew pull up tbb...Hang on all Stats near equal no matter...as if an Election!
No pollie has a 70% Poll at election nor a 70% Vax on eve of a rollout...(Huge lie!)

Oz Vax trust has been sliding for 5 years & world notices...
From above Trust > GP 61% > Dept Health 58% > States 44% > Federal 38%
Qld Phase 1- 125,000- 37K Frontline (State vax) > 88K Aged Care (Aspen -rort)
May Phase 2 -50+y'o (5,800) Chem Warehouse Rollout Conga.
10-15% Nurses / GP's > (at risk) (vs) 85% Offshore Zero tax Chem Jab Turnstyle.
Chem Warehouse has no ICU & Ambos gotta wait 3 day's in queue for yer rescue.
Cheap sleazy Rollout is at odds to community & [P] Med standards (Lack of Trust)

How to bury the ugly truth & Sugar Coat the POP tart.
Q: Are you optimistically in favour of a New Publicly Available vaccine that if it were delivered competently, would express confidence in your willingness to vote in support of having a Vax when it was your turn to do so! Also, would you mind too much if we could tally your answer in with another unrelated answer to bump up the willing vaxerz support, just high enough for the pre Rollout TV ratings to boost our boss Scotty's Sky Rocketing News Poll.

The Evening News sprinkles Tinkerbell's vax while censoring reality checks.
Now they're wanting us to believe vaxes are instrumental in curing Covid.
You see what they're selling here....pandemic Vax cures the blind! (A crime!)

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billythekid commented Tuesday, 23 Feb 2021 at 11:22pm

trubluebasher your either a genius or completely freaking nuts

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 5:46pm

Aussie scientific geniuses are branded crazy & have their funding cut by Oz Govt.
Dedicated to billy the kid by an unsettled outpatient who is anything but a genius.
Ravaging Bipolar beast inside feeds off the unsettling nature of Covid. (An illness!)

tbb credits these geniuses for intelligent, honest & helpful Covid response

Dr Norman Swan is too inquisitive so was told to lay off the Top Brass.
Prof Thomas Borody is branded a quack for cost effective TGA medicare therapies.
Prof Nikolai Petrovsky had funding dry up for outing covid origin & vax awareness

Vax News just in from tbb's own Qld...
Tues morning : Woman 94 + Man 88 in Aged care given 4x recommended pfizer vaccine.
Man has been taken to Hospital....
https://7news.com.au/news/qld/two-brisbane-aged-care-residents-given-ove...

Note: Fed's [457] do Aged Care & Aboriginal rollouts (or About 80% of Phase 1)

Allegedly the Online safety module training was not observed & signed off...
Code [457] never got past the letter A & the number 2 so they sacked him.

Fed Govt' mob (Heath Care Australia) begged Qld Health to mop up as it were.
Greg Hunt had dumped them at Anna's Hospital then run a mile...
Premier only found out in the evening when Qld health minister did the rounds.

Greg Hunt : "It was a very serious Health Breach in Terms of following protocols.
And what the doctor did was nearly as bad also!

Fed Govt are very thankful towards Qld Health we think!
Still working up the courage to tell the Premier.

The Health Care Australia Doc' has been stood down over "Maladministration"
Deputy CMO will investigate
Rollout is on hold for a few days until Dutto hunts down another slave.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7140486/doctor-stood-down-after-v...

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 4:46pm

Yes TBB if Australian doctors and scientists don’t toe the line they are penalised and many have a fear of speaking out . I remember before covid came along CSIRO had its funding heavily cut and many scientists found themselves out of work . It’s a shame there is so much ignorance out there and some like batfink believe there has never been any testing on ivermectin on humans before. The mind boggles at such thinking with the amount of evidence and long history of the drugs safety and minimal side effects. Borody was ignored yet all 3 drugs were already approved in Australia, it seems that questioning why weren’t trials set up is obvious to some as they were untested drugs , again the ignorance is unbelievable. I’m never going to stop questioning governments when things don’t add up . I don’t except that government decisions are always the right ones so I won’t just cop it on the chin . Too many mistakes already and more will come but we are still better of than most . Some more propaganda from me. https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMzU5... https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMzU5... So batfink do you still standby your comments ? “ As for using Ivermectin, that’s fine, but it’s a drug that is used used to treat parasite infections in animals. If you think that this is comparable to using a vaccine that has been used in 10’s of millions of human beings overseas, with the results of vaccination being studied relentlessly by honest medical practitioners, then you are free to think this through for yourself.

Vaccination that has substantial human trials and real life actual human beings in countries such as UK and the US, all of Europe and other parts, versus Ivermectin which is a drug used to treat horses with parasites, and is not approved by the WHO for human use (your links Supafreak, I checked ‘em) and almost certainly has no real effect (how Cana parasite drug cure a virus, ffs) then it is entirely within your prerogative to choose Ivermectin over a vaccine, provided Ivermectin can get through the human trials to show that it’s safe. Remember also that hydroxychloroquine also is used for humans, but has some serious side effects which are researched and accepted.

So if you think Ivermectin is a better bet than a vaccine, you go for it. I think your risk analysis methodology is somewhat flawed, but there you go.“ and can you show me please where I have said ivermectin is better than a vaccine ? Hope your not related to Dr Dick Vocal

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 4:17pm

[ Israel proves Vax Works ]
[ Vax works wonders in Israel ]
[ Pfizer Stops Covid Spread ]

All wish for such a miracle Fake News cure...the magic is happening...

If media had only waited a few days longer they'd still have some cred...(Idiots!)

[ Covid Drop: Cases decreasing worldwide & experts say many factors at play ]
https://www.thestar.com/life/health_wellness/2021/02/23/covid-drop-cases...

tbb will go easy on the idiots... on first glance many could herald Good News Vax.
However it only takes a few minutes to show graphs & stats can read opposite.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

*Seasonality > All influenza viruses peak between Nov - Jan ...(D'oh!)
* Herd immunity is naturally more progressive during Flu season
* Vax increases Asymptomatic cases that don't record as Covid.(Less cases)
* Largest ever Lockdown with minimal transit slowed the spread
* Society Wide Mask Wearing is adopted as norm.
* Peak Cold kept many indoors only now venturing out!

Israeli Stats also show these not so hidden truths...
23rd Sept - 11,316 cases > 11 Oct - 618 cases [39 deaths]
Massive record drop without Vaxes / Masks / Lockdown.

8 Feb (2 vax) 7,189 cases > 21st Feb 4,574 [51 deaths] With 2x vax
Stats show Miracle Vax is a 5x slower cure with 20% more deaths.

So did every world paper only read 2021 Graph? (That's fucked up Fake News)

Ok! tbb is surely tricking us, so let's apply reverse logic.

Israel Doctors reported often that vaxers are 2x more virulent until day 8.
So! If that was true then Stats would rise from day one to 2nd dose...
Start of Rollout date to end of Dose 1 > Dose 2 (Watch what happens!) No Tricks!

19th Dec 2,734 c/d >21st 2nd dose 10,213 c/d ( peak 1st dose = Peak Covid cases)

Proper News > [ Dangerous Pfizer day 8 virus triggers Pandemic ]
Proper News > [ Pfizer 2nd dose struggles to contain Pfizer 1st dose outbreak ]
Stats don't lie!
Homework...
5th -17th Nov (42 deaths/day > zero) 100% natural cure (No-promise /ADS / tricks)
23rd Feb-(38 deaths/day > ? ) Pre claims / Disco Balls / Selfies / A Miracle Cure!

Do we go again?
UK Pfizer 1st Dose day 8 outbreak
26th Dec 172 c/d > 20th Jan 1,820 c/d (Peak) 2nd doses
No need for Headlines...we all know Pfizer day 8 virus caused the outbreak.
Stats don't lie...just saying don't believe the Hype!

We all want cases to come down, but lets not Headline false hope...(It's a Crime)

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batfink commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 5:41pm

https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-...

So, the maker of the drug doesn’t recommend taking it for Covid, says it has side effects which can be dangerous and confirms it is an anti-parasitic drug.

It was not I who said it was not it hasn’t been tested on humans, that was from one of your links.

Minimal side effects? I don’t think so. Encephalopathy isn’t so great. From a safety perspective I’d be taking any of the vaccines over Ivermectin, and I’d take both the vaccine and Ivermectin over hydroxychloroquine.

In all this, are you not saying that you would take ivermectin over a vaccine? Well, consider me corrected.

You’re looking for a story because you aren’t satisfied with the one your getting. Your entirely welcome to question anything that comes from authorities, I encourage everyone to do it.

My point is not to grab the next best story that sits well with your pre-conceived ideas and biases. Live with a bit of doubt and uncertainty until something substantive comes along.

Doubt is unpleasant, but certainty is ridiculous.

Your statement, or suggestion, or implication, that I’m ignorant is really not going to strengthen your case here Supafreak. I will guarantee that I’m as well read on the subject as you are, and that my sources are more diverse.

As for CSIRO being de-funded before Covid, yeah, about 22 years before Covid. It all began with John Howard’s election and was basically completed by the time he left.

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:06pm

Batfink if you wonder why I use trial site news a lot it’s because they are unbiased in their reporting and cover all aspects of the story. Finally you have put a link up and thanks for that but It’s well publicised what is happening at Merck . Bit funny that a company that has donated hundreds of millions of doses of ivermectin to 3rd world countries suddenly claims it’s unsafe , especially since they recently brought a facility to try and make a vaccine and were granted nearly 400 million by the US government. I believe they have since pulled out of the race . So it’s good to know your looking at all the research and trials and evidence and what countries are rolling out ivermectin while waiting for a vaccine to be available to them . https://trialsitenews.com/news-roundup-merck-challenges-safety-validity-.... https://trialsitenews.com/merck-challenges-safety-validity-of-all-iverme... The first video May explain a few things to you batfink

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:22pm

Would love to see more of your sources batfink , can you flick me the link in regards to it was my source you were quoting ? It seems to be a recurring problem , in Craig’s thread you said I was recommending vitamin c for immune system when in fact it was vitamin D , I asked politely if you were mixed up but no reply , I then posted the link for vitamin D and it clearly states it assists your immune system and is also recommended for those with dark skin and elderly as they don’t absorb vitamin D from the sun that well

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:10pm

I know we can’t really trust these guys batfink https://youtu.be/75EPZQYynCA

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batfink commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:14pm

By the way, if Covid was ripping around Australia like it is in the US, Brazil, Mexico, India, the UK etc, I would fully support using the untested treatment of Ivermectin, in a clinical setting, I.e. a hospital.

But if NSW has had no case for over 5 weeks, other states for much longer, Victoria for a lesser time but they did have the Australian Open tennis to deal with, what is exactly the case for us to use it?

Please don’t send me more links to how it has worked overseas. What is your case for using it in Australia? Now that a vaccine that is tested for Covid (clinically tested rather anecdotal evidence) is being shot up people’s arms, what’s the case for going with ivermectin rather than the vaccine?

Is it because you want to travel overseas again, because a 5 day lockdown every blue moon is just too much to bear, is it about a general distrust of authorities and a desire to ‘stick it to the man’, or is it just about the fact that it was developed by big pharma?

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:30pm

Batfink, this is simple , Borody was ignored WHY ? Melbourne had 800 cases a day when he suggested rolling it out in aged care but government didn’t even consider trials , WHY ? Borody couldn’t even get answers from scumo or andrews WHY , if your going to say because it hadn’t been tested again, guess what ? It’s been used in aged care before to treat lice and scabies with side effects being slight headache in 4% of patients. Aren’t you a little curious to the health experts reasons not to trial it ? Or was isolation until hospitalised a better option ?

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:32pm

And batfink do you UNDERSTAND that not everyone can get vaccinated even if they wanted too ? So many will need a treatment eventually as you can’t keep Australia locked up forever.

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 6:39pm

And Batfink I will be in the 2A category for vaccination and hopefully in Bali come July so my wife can finally see her family after more than 2 years and we can take much needed medicine supplies to her village.

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 7:24pm
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Fliplid commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 8:45pm

Tony Abbotts legacy Supafreak.

You don’t need science when you’ve got religion

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Supafreak commented Wednesday, 24 Feb 2021 at 8:52pm

1 in 5 jobs , morale would have been low , got money thrown at them when covid hit

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 25 Feb 2021 at 1:09am

Oz Govt Covid Drugs include Hydroxychloroquine (Several Oz clinical Studies)
https://www.health.gov.au/news/australian-health-protection-principal-co...
TGA ban CMN from prescribing HC for Covid
www $1.1m fine / $11.1m company advertising prescription drugs.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-02-22/melbourne-doctors-under-review-hy...
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2021/feb/22/melbourne-doctors...

2nd Sept 2020 : Ivermectin Triple Therapy Protocol for Covid 19
TGA Registered Medicine / Off Label Prescription Use via GP / CDD
Suitable for ages 9+ upward (Avoid during Pregnancy) Take tabs with meals
Many scripts handed out - No side effects reported nor one suspected...

Sneak peak at new improved Soluble Ivermectin BSL4 test...get some of that in yer!
https://www.proactiveinvestors.com.au/companies/news/941947/mountain-val...

(Note) TGA does not approve Ivermectin or HC on their own for Covid

25th Jan 2021 Pfizer(Comirnaty) + 16th Feb 2021 AstraZeneca
TGA Fast Tracked Provisional Vaccines
https://www.tga.gov.au/hubs/fast-track-approvals
No kids -Ages 18 - 65 > case by case only (Avoid during pregnancy)
Queue Jumpers : Try the long blonde hair wig with the sporty nurse outfit.(Winner!)
GP/Clinics waiting forever (Qld OD) fast track>assessed>approved>emails (sorted).
Wonder wot made the Feds click into gear?

Scovid's Vaccination procedure
Need a no name unregistered [457] that can't understand Grade 2 Vax cartoons
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/downloads/p...
[457] can shoot raw unmixed viles into yer neck veins then shoot thru in 5 seconds.
Express Bus can save some time, so you can buy yer flowers at the ICU canteen.
Fed's will protect yer overdose privacy until Dutto deports the Lib [457] Slave.
[ Lib Vax ] blowout the costs, pay zero tax & return money as a party donation.
Just sign over yer kids www future & MyGov can pull out yer plug for you.

Wait Up! tbb... are you holding out the #1 World Best Batch Testing! #%@!
Tricky buggerz...luckily a reporter asked & answered half of her own question!
Claire Said : "Pfizer was Batch Tested 6 days after arrival"
31st Jan 2021 Pfizer Batch Test.
Hunt > CMO: AstraZeneca (Days! After arrival-No set Date/Time ) re: AZ Mid March!

tbb pops another Ivermectin washed down with a double shot of Pfizer Holy Spirit.
Nurse! Nurse! He went that way!

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 25 Feb 2021 at 1:22pm

Please...not another World Leader Fake Vax Shot Conspiracy!
Do we gotta do this again...
Bloody oath...#1 Oz Vax title is under threat.

Please then ...No dodgy Tricks!
tbb can promise it does go off the rails...but only just a little bit dodgy!

Scotty from Old School Marketing {Classic}-{M.A.T.E} - fuckin' dead set clanger!
https://www.5why.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/scomo-fire.jpg

Scotty's Pandemic Posturing
https://images.7news.com.au/publication/6136360327001/ck9w6oyc53w9m567ih...
Scotty serves up his Hot Hotel Menu
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/images/transform/v1/crop/frm/ks2fLYf9sz...
Scotty Modelling Modelling
https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/12130464-16x9-xlarge.jpg?v=2
Scotty looks lost with a Road Map
https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/12228760-3x2-xlarge.jpg?v=2
Scotty sells himself
https://thenewdaily.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/1549869817-scott-m...
Scotty's Vax Rollout
https://thenewdaily.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/1609989764-2021010...
Scotty peddles his Miracle Elixir
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/1e209453bdda0a5fe2f2b0a84a36b81f
Scotty's Vote 1 [L] Vaccine
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EtWploGUYAA2-6F.jpg

Scotty shows off his 002 [L] Vax Card + [L]ollypop
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/b8c4d234bb0b6595ecf88a7dbccc3fe4
Again! PM instructs not to forget yer Vax Card for next appointment
https://content.api.news/v3/images/bin/9370f45b7057ecdb3fc92e89a5d5a494
Scotty: "Will you just show the nation yer Vax Card!" (Smile & Flash) Not too hard!
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/b0x4dxFSQYL4DfXUkSOczPOrt2RVkdxBeuxOpY...

Either Scomo never got a Vax or safety demo was 100% fail that led to Qldurrz OD.
Gonna be pretty hard for Libs to sell {POV} if PM don't give a shit... D'oh!
Reckon they might have to Airbrush one into his hand...

Ok! So maybe Robbo does implant [L] Micro Chips to save on Vax Cards.

Smartie Vic Health rolled out a dodgy one so Nurse could instruct Scomo!
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuzTvB6VIAA-qe4.jpg

Choose! Oz has no Vax Cards or Hospitals are running off fakes...(Good Start Guys)
MyGov kidz souls, Bioscan Entry, Boss's Geo Fencing + Vax Cards...Vax Wot?

Here's a tuff Labor Chick rolling up her sleeve for the Rogue [L] Vax...
https://imageresizer.static9.net.au/SIpR5Nqwv9GvdFj31Z1rNS6l17g=/500x0/h...

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Supafreak commented Friday, 26 Feb 2021 at 3:06am

It seems Merck had some good insentive to discredit ivermectin and then didn’t bother attaching evidence to their statement. Money does strange things to companies integrity. https://trialsitenews.com/merck-spends-big-on-covid-19-candidate-but-ign... https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMzZj... Great article. https://contextly.com/redirect/channel/from/post/params/Y2hhbm5lbDYwMzdj...

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Supafreak commented Thursday, 25 Feb 2021 at 6:28pm

You can see why ivermectin isn’t popular at $2 per treatment compared to remdesivir at approximately $3000 per treatment . https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3537. https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN29G14U https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/29/health/covid-remdesivir-gilead.amp.html

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 26 Feb 2021 at 10:02am

o/s Surfari Crew > ABC The Business 25/2/2021 (Joycey spreads his wings)
https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2106H016S00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjQZMXovtS0

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Supafreak commented Saturday, 6 Mar 2021 at 3:46am

Hahaha TBB , Joyce is so full of shit , October hey , same month scumo hopes to have everyone vaccinated, meanwhile Jetstar were selling tickets online for July but that’s now gone from website again . If you brought tickets don’t accept vouchers for future travel , you are entitled by law to full refund no matter what type of ticket. Qantas and Jetstar try sucking you in to accept credit vouchers. Jetstar were fined for being shonky before and haven’t learnt much or just don’t care. I brought tickets for Bali in May 2020 for May 2021 thinking maybe things would be happening, If I cancel I get nothing but if they cancel they must give full refund. I went through this in 2020 with them . They offered credit voucher and I said no thanks full refund which I got with in 4 days, didn’t stop them advertising tickets again even though Joyce said no flights until July 2021. Had to take travel insurance company to ACCC to get refund. https://www.accc.gov.au/media-release/jetstar-to-pay-195-million-for-fal...