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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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philosurphizing... commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 1:06pm

Taser Guy - Vitali GossJankowski
Think I would have gone with a different headline-'' Deaf Gallaudet student shows off his taser several times''
His storming starts at 2.30

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garyg1412 commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 1:07pm

"Trump basically got unlucky if it wasn't for Covid he would have been much more likely to be re-elected"
The opposite could be true as well Indo - if he handled Covid like the superstar he claimed to be then he would have been much much much more likely to be re-elected.
But he didn't and he's gone and my life is now going to be so boring not being able to watch my daily dose of dumbfuckery!!

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GuySmiley commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 1:11pm

Slow-mo and his govt “completely down played the virus, remember when they didnt even want countries to close their borders to China”.

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 1:26pm

Many countries down played the virus because the WHO was downplaying the virus even telling countries not to shut their borders to Chinese travellers..

The WHO is the organisation that are suppose to be experts and the ones who are suppose to advise countries on these things.

However countries soon worked out that the WHO was not giving the advice they should and once one or two countries starting shutting down borders pretty much every other country followed.


"WHO chief says widespread travel bans not needed to beat China virus

GENEVA (Reuters) - World Health Organization chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said on Monday there was no need for measures that “unnecessarily interfere with international travel and trade” in trying to halt the spread of a coronavirus that has killed 361 people in China.
“We call on all countries to implement decisions that are evidence-based and consistent,” Tedros told the WHO executive board, reiterating his message from last week when he declared an international emergency.

China is facing increasing international isolation due to restrictions on flights to and from the country, and bans on travellers from China.

There have been 17,238 confirmed infections in China including 361 deaths, as well as 151 confirmed cases in 23 countries and 1 death which was reported from the Philippines on Sunday, Tendros added."

The WHO was gutless, they didn't want to upset China, any other country and they would have ensured the virus was contained.

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indo-dreaming commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 9:09pm

This is pretty funny.

"The Most Popular President Ever’ Is Getting DESTROYED By ‘Dislikes"

One video on the official white house channel has 2.5K thumbs up to 22K thumbs down

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blackers commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:22pm

Ah well, you have the next four years to feel superior while doing the same as those you continue to rail against. Hope you enjoy. Plenty of like minds going through it, so you are not alone.

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blackers commented Friday, 22 Jan 2021 at 11:35pm

Oh, and the 7 million odd extra votes may possibly be a tad more relevant that FB “likes”.

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memo... commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 1:38am

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Sickaz commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 3:30am

Ha Garyg, I like your style. Seems one thing we should all be able to agree on about the Biden administration... boring news... press conferences are no longer like a twisted satirical comedy act.

Would it hurt Biden to ham it up a little bit? I guess his health, age and increasing decrepitude might not allow for much ‘hamming’. Although... If he calls more women who ask him honest questions “lying dog faced pony soldiers” we could have some good news on our hands...

So funny <1min

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Sickaz commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 3:59am

Or pushing his hand onto a mans chest, then poking his finger into his chest, then fronting up and grabbing the mans jacket with two hands because he didn’t like what the man was saying, despite the mans polite and non threatening manner.

Ol Joe the sweet unifying granddaddy has a bit of a temper on him. Don’t be critical or ask him a real question folks, that’s where the unity ends. If everyone could just get on board and go along with ol Joe, there will be so much unity.

Or he might just call you fat in front of an audience.

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Optimist commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 4:13am

More fraud here Sickaz, Roman catholic Joe selects Harris as vice pres. Here's what the catholic news said about her...anything to win eh Joe...these two will be the worst ever bullshitting team in US history..

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san Guine commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 9:02am

Oh look, there's some non-partisan, unbiased, non-agenda reporting from the Catholic news...

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 2:57pm


Im not sure why you keep grasping at Q straws (maybe because that crazy dude makes great visuals for media hence got lots of press) they are such a tiny supporter base of trump you would expect 0000000000000.1%, even among the real pro Trumpers they are such a tiny percentage.

Ive been listening to quite a few right wing youtube and Podcast channels over the last two weeks and i think you would be surprised at how people you might consider quite right wing actually view Q even guys like Alex Jones totally distance themselves from them as you can see in this video.

BTW. just for the record im not a fan of Alex Jones and what i know of Q is little as i just have zero interest in conspiracy theory stuff, especially totally wacko out there stuff that is not realistic in anyway.

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blackers commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 3:46pm

Hi Indo, you may be reading more into my comments than was intended. My point was that there are plenty of others who are disappointed by the US election result, including the fringe dwellers, which perhaps explains the “thumbs up/down” scores you referenced. As is the way of these things, the other side will get another go down the track.
It was lazy of me to use a link with the same image, but even that was coz I really like the hat. The form of the tool wearing, less so. Not sure that the Q squad can be so easily dismissed, there seem to be a few about, including a number of elected representatives, so perhaps it is more pervasive than you suggest.
Anyways, plenty of waves about, get into it.

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GuySmiley commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 4:13pm

“Ive been listening to quite a few right wing youtube and Podcast channels ...”, in fact I have quite the nose for it ...

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 4:21pm

Now worries blackers.

Yeah nice new swell today but pretty busy down here with long weekend crowd, im hoping a dinner time slot thins the crowd out.

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bluediamond commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 4:50pm

Chinese government testing Biden for a response straight up??

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Blowin commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 7:08pm

And here it comes. For everyone who has shaken their heads in puzzlement over the last few year’s hyperbole about the threat of right wing extremism and domestic terrorism....

The money shot : “The threat assessment is being coordinated by the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the FBI and the Department of Homeland Security, and will be used as a foundation to develop policy, the White House said.”

The article fails to mention that it was Biden who developed the original Patriot Act post 9/11. Also fails to mention that this legislation has been in development by the DNC whilst they were in opposition last year. Totally normal.

Also explains the regular BULLSHIT purveyed by US government departments who can’t wait to turn the profitable and population controlling War on Terror into a domestic application.

Example :

The US is the trend setter . Expect Dutton and the LNP to be creaming their undies at the opportunity to enact the War on Domestic Terror in Australia. They’ve basically started already though Metadata , Witness K etc etc.

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Blowin commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 7:10pm

A day after Joe Biden's inauguration, the headline in Axios read: “Trust in media hits a new low.” Felix Salmon wrote that “for the first time ever, fewer than half of all Americans have trust in traditional media.” The Edelman survey showed overall trust in the press dropping to 46%.

The traditional explanation for this phenomenon is that Republicans hate the press a lot, but Democrats just a little. The Axios story bore this out somewhat, as only 18% of Republicans reported trusting media, versus 57% of Democrats.

Still, 57% of half your potential audience is nothing to brag about, when you’re in the trust business. Other numbers, like 56% of respondents believing journalists are “purposely trying to mislead people,” or 58% thinking that “most news organizations are more concerned with supporting an ideology… than with informing the public" are more ominous.

Media critics who work in the corporate press, like Margaret Sullivan of the Washington Post, seem determined to look everywhere but inward for solutions. The dominant legend in our business is that if Republicans believe in fairy tales like Q and “Stop the Steal,” the traditional press can do nothing but stand its ground.

Sullivan’s reaction to at-times “embarrassing” Inauguration Day coverage was an injunction to reporters to resist the temptation to try to appear more balanced by showing “toughness” with regard to the incoming Biden regime. If anything, Sullivan said, the press should stand even taller in its opposition to red-state lie merchants like Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz, “without fearing that they’d be called partisan.”

Karen Attiah, the Post’s global opinions editor, took the same approach. She wrote that Trump had been caused in part by the media’s penchant for “balance” and “presenting both sides.” Going forward, it will therefore be necessary to work even harder avoid missteps like Politico’s much-criticized decision to publish Ben Shapiro, which Attiah decried as a decision defended with the “rusty armor of both-sidesism.”

It’s astonishing that after so many years of decline in trust in media — this phenomenon has been going on for over a decade now, something I first started noticing when I published The Great Derangement back in 2008 — media people still think the issue is a mathematical question of “sides,” with widespread audience revulsion a kind of reward for their unflinching correctitude.

Sullivan was a lot closer to the truth when she warned of being seduced by the return of a Biden administration that closely reflects “our values,” which she described as being like the world as represented in West Wing: celebrating “multiculturalism, a belief in the principles of liberal democracy, and a kind of wonky idealism.”

West Wing was General Hospital for rich white liberals, a seven-season love letter to the enlightened attitudes of the Bobo-in-Paradise demographic. If that’s the self-image of the national press, it’s no wonder they make people want to vomit. The coverage of Biden’s inauguration, another celebration of those attitudes, was an almost perfect mathematical inverse of late-stage Trump reporting, a monument to groveling sycophancy.

John Heileman at MSNBC compared Biden’s speech to Abe Lincoln’s second inaugural, and suggested that the sight of “the Clintons, the Bushes, and the Obamas” gathered for the event was like “the Marvel superheroes all back in one place” (this was not the first post-election Avengers comparison to be heard on cable). Rachel Maddow talked about going through “half a box of Kleenex” as she watched the proceedings. Chris Wallace on Fox said Biden’s lumbering speech was “the best inaugural address I ever heard,” John Kennedy’s “Ask Not” speech included. The joyful tone was set the night before by CNN’s David Challen, who said lights along the Washington Mall were like “extensions of Joe Biden’s arms embracing America.”

As these neo-Soviet ministrations spread across the airwaves, an opposite storyline was discarded. From the Capitol riot on, we’d been warned about a sequel act of violence by Trump supporters. On January 11th, ABC reported that an internal FBI memo had “received information about an unidentified armed group” planning a “huge uprising” if efforts were made to remove Donald Trump via the 25th Amendment, while protesters were planning to “storm” state capitols in “all 50 states.”

We were shown how 25,000 National Guard troops were deployed to protect the capital, with attendant subplots about an unusual effort to politically screen those Guardsmen. "While we have no intelligence indicating an insider threat,” Defense Secretary Chris Miller said, “we are leaving no stone unturned in securing the capital.”

Beyond the 50-state threat, what if Trump just wouldn’t leave? That was the subject of countless stories across all four years of the Trump experience, with Vanity Fair’s “No One Knows How to Get Trump to Leave In January?” being a typical example. They speculated that the Secret Service might have to pull an old landlord’s trick:

[The Secret Service] could also simply do the equivalent of changing the locks: “When the staff leaves on January 19, don’t let them back into the complex the next day,” an ex-agent said. “He can’t do anything without his staff.”

Should we worry about martial law? Before the inauguration, USA Today and multiple other outlets wondered what would happen if Trump invoked the Insurrection Act, especially after the CEO of My Pillow, Michael Lindell, was spotted entering the White House with a document full of notes that apparently contained suggestions for invoking military rule.

On Inauguration Day these stories melted away in silence. Trump and his wife Melania ditched the White House more or less without event Wednesday morning, unless one counts the unauthorized use of Village People hit “YMCA” as an exit tune (“it would seem his abusive use of our music has finally ended,” the band said in a statement). In localities around the country, there were but a few scattered reports about tiny or nonexistent demonstrations at state capitols:

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In all of New York and California, a single protester showed up at the state capital to protest. So terrifying.
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In other cases, as in the instance of a gun-rights rally held at the Virginia State Capitol — many of whose attendees were apparently vocal opponents of Trump — livestream coverage by indy outlets like Jordan Chariton’s Status Coup was shut down, allegedly because it violated Google’s “firearms policy.”

Balance isn’t about giving credulous coverage or equal time to Donald Trump or Josh Hawley or Ben Shapiro (though I think it’s crazy for news organizations to cut off all conservatives), it’s about being consistent. If you tell us on January 12th that all 50 state capitols are under serious threat — I was genuinely worried — you have to tell us what happens at the end of the story a week later. Was that threat real but deterred? Was it overblown? What happened to all of those warnings?

This has been an ongoing theme of coverage in the Trump years: hyping a threat for a news cycle or two, then moving to the next panic as the basis for the first one dissipates. How many headlines were aimed out our outrage centers in the last four years that were quietly memory-holed, once they’d outlived their political utility? We read dozens of stories before the election warning that Russia was already interfering in the 2020 election. A smattering of New York Times headlines alone:

Lawmakers Are Warned That Russia Is Meddling to Re-elect Trump
Russia Continues Interfering in Election to Try to Help Trump, U.S. Intelligence Says
‘Chaos Is the Point’: Russian Hackers and Trolls Grow Stealthier in 2020
F.B.I. Warns of Russian Interference in 2020 Race and Boosts Counterintelligence Operations
Putin Most Likely Directing Election Interference to Aid Trump, C.I.A. Says
The Times almost weekly quoted people like the “American official” who said Russia was like a “tornado, capable of inflicting damage on American democracy now,” or FBI Director Christopher Wray, who said there was a “very active” campaign to influence the election and “denigrate Vice President Biden.”

Then Biden won the election, the story disappeared, and the near-immediate conclusion of the same New York Times was that the election had been “free of fraud.” They quoted the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency as saying the 2020 vote was “the most secure in American history,” and as for all of those pre-election scare stories?

A bipartisan consensus like this may tempt some people to conclude that the dire pre-election warnings were overblown, that the risks to the election were never that serious. The reality is the opposite…

Like the wider Trump-Russia story itself, which magically vanished from coverage before both the 2018 and 2020 election seasons, audiences were asked for a time to care about certain things as if their lives depended on it, then just as quickly asked to forget the issues ever came up. And they wonder why people feel manipulated?

We went through many of these episodes, from Bountygate to the “mass hysterectomies” story to the recent spate of “What if Trump blows up the universe?” scare-o-grams (Forbes, echoing the famed “Generalissimo Francisco Franco is Still Dead” construction, wrote the best of these, with “Enraged and Isolated, Donald Trump Still Has Sole Control of America’s Nukes”).

We were repeatedly told that revealing the name of this or that patriotic news source would “risk lives,” only to have those sources turn out to be people like paid DNC researcher Christopher Steele, the “informant” Stefan Halper (exposed as an FBI source in the press in the eighties), or Brookings Institution fellow Igor Danchenko, who produced the pee tape tale over “beers” at a conversation made in “jest” with a pal in Moscow. Needless to say, no lives were ever threatened, and in many of those cases — Steele’s especially — the rationale for keeping the person’s name and employer a secret was clearly corrupt.

Blue-state audiences didn’t ask for accounting for those official warnings for the same reason Trump voters never asked what happened to those three million undocumented votes Hillary Clinton supposedly won in 2016: audiences don’t demand explanations for puffed-up claims about other groups.

People like Sullivan would have you believe that “balance” is a mandate to give voice to clearly illegitimate points of view, but it’s really about not falling so completely in love with your “values” that you stop caring to avoid mistakes about those who don’t share them, or even just mistakes generally.

By any standard, the press had a terrible four years, from the mangling of dozens of Russiagate tales to scandals like the New York Times “Caliphate” disaster and the underappreciated Covington High School story fiasco. Still, many in the business can’t see how bad it’s been, because they’ve walled themselves off so completely from potential critics.

Coupled with the enhanced aggressiveness of Silicon Valley in removing dissenting accounts across the spectrum — Facebook is taking down six Socialist Workers Party accounts in Britain as I write this, a day after zapping a series of Antifa accounts — reporters at places like the Post, the Times, and CNN every day have less and less to worry about in terms of audience blowback, and they know it. Just in the first few days of the Biden administration, we’ve seen editorial decisions that would never have been attempted once upon a time.

The Post just tried to remove seven paragraphs of their own archived article about Vice President Kamala Harris, which contained a cringeworthy scene of Harris and her sister joking about prisoners begging for water, only to restore it after an outcry. CNN meanwhile ran a story that incoming Biden officials had to “build everything from scratch” with regard to Covid-19 policy because the Trump administration had no plan for vaccine distribution at all — not a bad or even a terrible plan, but literally a “nonexistent” plan, despite the fact that 36 million vaccines had already been delivered.

In this rare case, rival media organizations cried foul, with reporters from both Politico and the Washington Post blasting the report as untrue and a “gambit to lower expectations” by the incoming administration. In an atmosphere where editors really feared discontent from outside demographics or rival party politicians, a story like that, with an over-the-top-to-impossible premise, would never even be tried.

Competing voices and critics who’ll keep your newsroom at least theoretically honest are important, which is why the mass-deletions of alternative media accounts are so upsetting: it hugely enhances the likelihood of errors and cheap caricatures, as well as the belief in one’s infallibility. The fact that pundits and reporters are leading the charge for an ever-purer monoculture is beyond creepy. A tweet by Anand Giridharadas expressed what probably more than a few people in West Wing media-land are thinking these days:

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It’s time for this question to be front and center: Should Fox News be allowed to exist? Brain-mashing as a business model shouldn’t be legal.
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It’s bad that trust in media is down, but even worse that so few in the business seem to think it’s a problem.

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Westofthelake commented Saturday, 23 Jan 2021 at 8:15pm

Make it so.


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Sickaz commented Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 4:51pm

Correct Joe Biden was a key figure in the development of the Patriot Act, now for Adam Schiff’s new domestic terrorism bill.

Former CIA director John Brennan recently outlined the “unholy alliance” of groups which constitute perceived US domestic terrorism threats. Those groups are; “Religious extremists, authoritarians, fascists, bigots, racists, nativists, even LIBERTARIANS”.

So now some of the US ruling elite are willing to say in public, that libertarians are a domestic terror threat. Libertarians... who typically sit in the centre of the political spectrum, who champion freedom and oppose coercion?

If this administration is scared of libertarians then I worry about the amount of personal freedom and civil liberties they expect the US citizens to relinquish so they can usher in this promised woke utopia.

I guess if everyone has no rights, that’s fair.... in an totalitarian kinda way.

There is a reason Joe got through the DNC primaries, despite far better, far younger candidates (what are the odds he will see out his term?). He’s the oldest president ever in this accelerating technological world, a man famous for fuck all despite his 50+ year political career.

He won the Democratic ticket (was selected by the DNC establishment) because he is a PUPPET.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 5:52pm

He’s not a puppet he’s a seat warmer.

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Blowin commented Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 7:16pm


Sanders got kicked to the kerb by the democracy hatin’ DNC .

Now the US has the second coming of the Immaculate and Virginal Joe Biden. Amen and W Amen.

What the fck are we doing pretending US democracy is still a thing when the DNC’s least likely candidate ends up as Vice President of the fckn United States with a good chance of running the show when Biden throws a shoe ASAP ?

Gabbard was preferred by everyone except the DNC king makers / DC Swamp but who is the world supposed to swallow ( 3 percent vote at DNC congress!!!!!!!! )

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indo-dreaming commented Sunday, 24 Jan 2021 at 7:26pm

Pretty obvious it was a voter getter and trying to grab the widest range of demographics votes as they can.

Old white man that has been in politics forever is pretty much more of the same typical USA president and even against Trump not going to go down too well for everyone but covers the old school crew..

Then throw in a mixed race darker skin women who will likely take over and you cover the younger more woke vote.

Smart move from there perspective, kind of stuff Trump should have done.

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factotum commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 6:56pm

Forget the rusted-on Republicans, the Tea Party dregs, the snowflakes, the flat-out racists, and especially the fake (news) 'working class' Tories, here's the real Trumpzi slash GOP 'power' base in terms of raw numbers.

Getting Seppos to actually vote has always been a mission (and let's not get into Greg Palast voting rorts! GOP in the big dance, Dems in their own DNC primaries), and the radical Christian Right have always, always got out there and exercised their God-given right to vote! And they've been growing in number and chutzpah, especially since Reagan. And now they're right in there.

Sweet Jeezus, Pence was just an impeachment away!

As Kohler says above:

"That won’t be the end of the power-grab of the radical Christian right. Trump was merely their temporary disposable figurehead, a “useful idiot”.

There’ll be another one, less idiotic and more useful.

God help America."

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 7:09pm

Pretty much covers it all.

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factotum commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 7:59pm

Forget PooTube, you need to get RealTubed more, Info.

Or start reading or somethin'.

And they say kids today are lazy!

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velocityjohnno commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 8:52pm

Here's a bit of that 'green tech' revolution (or: a mammoth bubble, take your pick) that we may see continue under Joe:

3 billion this round, 10 Billion since 2019 in capital raised... Gotta hand it to the US, if you want to develop stuff, they have the market depth.

To put it in Australian terms, that's 3 x the whole VE Commodore program raised this week, and they've raised 10 x VE programs in the last 2 years.

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etarip commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 9:41pm

This is another decent read from Foreign Affairs highlighting some challenges for US foreign policy post Trump, as well as some potential opportunities. It’s pretty balanced.

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GuySmiley commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 10:14pm

"Pretty much covers it all".

Yes siree, that pretty much covers it all.

Info putting his name to and providing a link to an extreme far-right pommie conspiracy theorist youtoob "personality" who was permanently banned from Facebook and Instagram in 2019 for engaging in hate speech. He has regular form criticising islam, feminism, and climate change, slap me down with a feather who would have guessed that?

Who else do you watch on youtube info-warrior? Its so illuminating getting an insight into the source of some/many of your where the fuck did he get that from contributions here ....

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san Guine commented Monday, 25 Jan 2021 at 10:16pm


You're right, it's either going to be a mammoth bubble v green tech revolution...the "market' will sort it out, Capitalism demands same.

I personally hope, that there will be an expeditious (market-driven) move to electric/hydrogen/wind/battery/solar/tidal/whatever source, that "decarbonises" our world. The potential here in Australia is endless.

Could the Australian government, industry and the community contribute to the mitigation of climate change and as a corollary, begin to extricate ourselves from the yoke of economic reliance on China?

Maybe I'm just dreaming...( actually, mostly I try to dream of J-Bay lines)

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sypkan commented Tuesday, 26 Jan 2021 at 3:22am

" intelligence about an iminnent attack..."

is this all just the big cynical optics opportunity it seems to be?

yet another bad call to keep pushing the same tired old 'narratives' of misinformation?

the cyncism... the opportunism... the propaganda machine... it knows no bounds...

and I gotta say... most interesting the unlikely heads that keep turning up on fox news...

fox news... that 'fake news' network that is so 'dangerous'... the network that the dnc machine now wants to cancel...

(along with a heap of other inconveniences...)

the machine is clearly cooked, beyond indefensible... yet some still do...

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shortenism commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 9:56am

Back on the grid after a couple of weeks off it and low and behold my Trump money is dust.. There ya go all the haters, enjoy my pain!!

The question has to be though, did Biden get elected as the new Pres of the Republic of America or is he Pres of the bankrupt United States Corporation...

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Hiccups commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 11:16am

Bit of a turn-up ay shorty? Who saw that coming?

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indo-dreaming commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 1:55pm

Kind of related to some of my other comments today on another thread, but maybe more relevant here. Cut and pasted from a post my mother just shared on facey.

"What a great perspective and well worth the read .....

This article was written by a 26 yr old college student by the name of Alyssa, who's in grad school for her MBA.

“My Generation Is Blind to the Prosperity Around Us! I'm sitting in a small coffee shop near Nokomis (Florida) trying to think of what to write about. I scroll through my newsfeed on my phone looking at the latest headlines of presidential candidates calling for policies to "fix" the so-called injustices of capitalism. I put my phone down and continue to look around.

I see people talking freely, working on their MacBook's and ordering food they get in an instant, seeing cars go by outside, and it dawned on me; we live in the most privileged time in the most prosperous Nation and we've become completely blind to it.

Vehicles, food, technology, freedom to associate with whom we choose. These things are so ingrained in our American way of life we don't give them a second thought.

We are so well off here in the United States that our poverty line begins 31 times above the global average. Thirty One Times!!!

Virtually no one in the United States is considered poor by global standards. Yet, in a time where we can order a product off Amazon with one click and have it at our doorstep the next day, we are unappreciative, unsatisfied, and ungrateful?

Our unappreciation is evident as the popularity of Socialist policies among my generation continues to grow. Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez recently said to Newsweek talking about the millennial generation, "An entire generation which is now becoming one of the largest electorates in America came of age and never saw American prosperity."

Never saw American prosperity?? Let that sink in.

When I first read that statement, I thought to myself, that was quite literally the most entitled and factually illiterate thing I've ever heard in my 26 years on this earth. Many young people agree with her, which is entirely misguided.

My generation is being indoctrinated by a mainstream narrative to actually believe we have never seen prosperity. I know this first hand, I went to college, let's just say I didn't have the popular opinion, but I disagree.

Why then, with all of the overwhelming evidence around us, evidence that I can even see sitting at a coffee shop, do we not view this as prosperity? We have people who are dying to get into our country!

People around the world destitute and truly impoverished. Yet, we have a young generation convinced they've never seen prosperity and, as a result, we elect some politicians who are dead set on taking steps towards abolishing Capitalism!!

Why? The answer is this, my generation has only seen prosperity. We have no contrast! We didn't live in the great depression or live through two World Wars, the Korean War, The Vietnam War and we didn't see the rise and fall of Socialism and Communism.

We don't know what it's like to live without the internet, without cars, without smartphones.

We don't have a prosperity problem. We have an entitlement problem, an ungratefulness problem, and it's spreading like a plague."

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 2:08pm

Along the same lines but for the preceding generation there’s this theory :

Is this the era of over pampering ? Definitely not restricted to the young. I asked one poster to list some things he appreciated about modern Australia and he refused to name a single thing and instead made a list of whinges none of which affected him personally.

Cant see the forest for the trees ! It’s one thing to be aware of shortcomings of our country and another thing entirely to have these shortcomings blind you to the all the great things we have available.

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memo... commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 2:21pm

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soggydog commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 2:37pm

Fails to recognise the GFC as an economic equivalent to the Great Depression on going wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya that have been coalition’s of many nations. Increased threat of domestic terrorism, the war on drugs, the war on terror, mass incarceration growing wealth transfer and inequality increased environmental degradation.
That’s just off the top of my head.
Please Info keep the un adulterated punching down bullshit coming you fucking dork.

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 2:52pm

The original was better always.

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Blowin commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 3:01pm


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freeride76 commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 3:09pm

"Yet, we have a young generation convinced they've never seen prosperity and, as a result, we elect some politicians who are dead set on taking steps towards abolishing Capitalism!!"

Name one elected US politician who is taking steps to abolish capitalism?

Also, probably a fake news post. Americans, especially college students don't say "dead set".

I'd say the post was written by an Aussie.

carry on Indo.

throw 'em off to war, that'll sort 'em out.

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indo-dreaming commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 4:23pm

Ha ha oh please Soggydog i was born in the mid 70s even i know I've had it good and still have it good compared to previous generations and compared to millions around the world.

Kinda clutching at straws with those things especially war on drugs,

Hey mummy the cops pot.

Probably the biggest/hardest thing for a lot of people these days in Australia is house prices, it's one area where previous generations have had it a lot easier and this current pandemic isn't easy for everyone.

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synchrodogcal commented Wednesday, 27 Jan 2021 at 3:35pm

they lost me at 'narrative'...

narrative, woke, cancel = buzzwords for the brain dead