Next Federal Election

Australia has rejected right wing nuttery.
Let's get back to unity, a fair go, and building a great nation.

Good.

Confusion wrote:

Moonah wrote:

Confusion wrote:

There’s the schadenfreud and scarf waving , that @Roker was talking about .
At least we don’t have to watch little
Johnny Howard dancing at the disco with Pete .

Do you sleep?

Yeah I sleep from 11pm until 6am , with one drink break,
What’s it to you , at least I don’t live in the Northern suburbs of Hobart.
I definitely won’t be taking advice from a self confessed lid flip !

Okaaayy

basesix wrote:

Confusion wrote:

At least Dutton isn’t planning an insurrection on Parliament House.

jesus, imagine that.. so much arduous crossings of lawn..

Not to mention the storming of Lake Burley Griffin.

The drama as an armada of re-purposed tinnies with 6hp Yammies approach the western shore.

andy-mac wrote:

Wow...
What are the lnp now.
The leftovers of the leftovers?
Just the scraps....?

With bubble gone will squeak be the new leader ? She would be hilarious.

Supafreak wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

Wow...
What are the lnp now.
The leftovers of the leftovers?
Just the scraps....?

With bubble gone will squeak be the new leader ? She would be hilarious.

With the night pan empty all they have left is a pan

andy-mac wrote:

Wow...
What are the lnp now.
The leftovers of the leftovers?
Just the scraps....?

Waste stabilization pond?

indo-dreaming wrote:

It will be fine if you enjoy the win today, i can handle it, im prepared for it, i cant always get my way.

Im just going to be happy if.

1. The teal in my area doesn't get in
2. Greens vote falls or lose seats.
3. Im hoping to see an increase in the One Nation vote and hopefully pick up seats.

These three things happen and Collingwood win tonight and ill be happy.

Well on a positive note.

1. The Teal in my seat lost to LNP

2. Greens have lost seats, although im spewing that Adam bant looks like he is going to hold his seat, it looked like he was going to lose it last night. (i have no idea why people in city centres vote Greens? its bizzare)

3. Will wait an see on this for the Senate

5. Pies lost :( i did call this though so at least i tipped Cats in footy tipping)

On the election results itself, i knew Labor would win but its quite a blow out, but i am also not a fan of Dutton, which kind of says it all when LNP voters even dont like him.

Anyway congratulations to the Labor voters, definitely a good win for you guys.

Lots of outside influences shaped this election but gotta feel like it's the last of the Boomer Elections - where policies were crafted to appease the once-enormous cohort of post-war babies.

At least two elections back, the LNP were wondering how they might expand their base to Gen-Z and Millennials who'll never own houses. If you can't afford the Australian Dream, aren't financially secure, then the tendency will be towards change, not conservatism.

How much longer will CGT and NG hold out against a young mob who want in?

nice to see some of you miserable fucks smile for a change...

truly is

been a tough few years, for the triggered, deranged, and plain old disheartened

but.. roker is on the money...

and yeh, what a pleasure watching the greens get put in their place, little adam thought he'd be running government by about now

now he's scratching for his seat...

JP coming in HOT !…….under the collar. https://youtube.com/shorts/Yfvfap1Xcxc?si=C2NSKl4rKJFjAJfT

When is Gs-Co making his congratulatory phone call to Albo ?

LNP were basically a smear on one square of toilet paper. AW

enjoy the jubilation, but my take is this is very similar to the last uk election, where labor romped it in seats wise, on a measely 30% primary vote...

ie. much like the conservatives in britain, It's a strong rebuke of dutton and his party of nothing rather than any approval of albo

I haven't seen the primary vote figures, but it's got to be well down when 35% of australians did not put labor and liberal first

sypkan wrote:

enjoy the jubilation, but my take is this is very similar to the last uk election, where labor romped it in seats wise, on a measely 30% primary vote...

ie. much like the conservatives in britain, It's a strong rebuke of dutton and his party of nothing rather than any approval of albo

I haven't seen the primary vote figures, but it's got to be well down when 35% of australians did not put labor and liberal first

Yeah, but 65% did. AW

andy-mac wrote:

Australia has rejected right wing nuttery.
Let's get back to unity, a fair go, and building a great nation.

Good.

It just further embraced the WEF agenda and left wing progressive lunacy.

gs-co wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

Australia has rejected right wing nuttery.
Let's get back to unity, a fair go, and building a great nation.

Good.

It just further embraced the WEF agenda and left wing progressive lunacy.

It just pissed off gs-co and right wing
regressive madness even more,
Good to see!

gs-co wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

Australia has rejected right wing nuttery.
Let's get back to unity, a fair go, and building a great nation.

Good.

It just further embraced the WEF agenda and left wing progressive lunacy.

Honestly i dont think it will really be either, it will just be more business as normal more of the same.

Australia will become more divided as we create more division via immigration of opposing values we will get more issue's like seen in UK and USA

Population and immigration rates will continue at crazy rates causing more issues.

Housing wont get more affordable as directly linked to the above

Energy wont get more affordable but will become more unreliable like has been in recent years. (gas will still be a big focus)

If we are honest it would all be the same under LNP, only difference is we will just see more eroding of things like family value's under Labor.

Then another election or two it will all flip back the other way.

But hey...Australia sure showed Dutton how much it hates him and any legacy of the Morrison govt.

Blind

Mindless

Braindead

Sleepwalking

Into EU style WEF eco socialism.

Edit: You're right indo. None of these issues will actually improve under the ALP and teals.

Jim Chalmers just interviewed on Insiders.. what a great guy. Inspires lots of confidence.

another million and half bodies over the next 3 years?

politics aside - if that's possible - its going to be interesting watching labor deal with the shitstorm they've already created... let alone another 1.5 mil...

it's simply physically impossible to do what they propose regarding housing, literally impossible in best case scenario

so on their current form...

another 3 years of importing bodies amidst a housing crisis and we're gonna see some pretty extreme homelessness

labor clearly have no other plan or intention other than maintaining current levels

it's going to get ugly

how they deal with that will define australia I reckon

it's a formidable task

another 7 years syppo...

thermalben wrote:

Jim Chalmers just interviewed on Insiders.. what a great guy. Inspires lots of confidence.

Yep I was getting good vibes off him last night, calm, sensible and in control.
No wonder they’re talking about him as a leader at some stage.

sypkan wrote:

another million and half bodies over the next 3 years?

politics aside - if that's possible - its going to be interesting watching labor deal with the shitstorm they've already created... let alone another 1.5 mil...

it's simply physically impossible to do what they propose regarding housing, literally impossible in best case scenario

so on their current form...

another 3 years of importing bodies amidst a housing crisis and we're gonna see some pretty extreme homelessness

labor clearly have no other plan or intention other than maintaining current levels

it's going to get ugly

how they deal with that will define australia I reckon

it's a formidable task

Agree and no government has the answers.

The problem is immigration fuels the economy but immigration also fuels the housing crisis.

AndyM wrote:

thermalben wrote:

Jim Chalmers just interviewed on Insiders.. what a great guy. Inspires lots of confidence.

Yep I was getting good vibes off him last night, calm, sensible and in control.
No wonder they’re talking about him as a leader at some stage.

He did a podcast with Mark Bouris recently and it shows there as well, thoroughly decent bloke. There was a little bit of sloganeering but not much considering he was in the middle of a campaign. Same goes for Albaneses recent interview with Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell.
Both showed a huge difference in the way they operate compared to their opposites, Taylor and Dutton.

Props to Keith Wolahan for honouring his commitment to an interview on Insiders, despite the fact that he's probably lost his seat overnight. I don't know anything about him, but he seems like a smart, level headed guy - the Liberals have certainly lost a talent.

thermalben wrote:

Props to Keith Wolahan for honouring his commitment to an interview on Insiders, despite the fact that he's probably lost his seat overnight. I don't know anything about him, but he seems like a smart, level headed guy - the Liberals have certainly lost a talent.

Agree

This is a great outcome for the country. I stayed quiet on these forums as I had no doubt about Labor cruising to victory. It’s was crystal clear and I didn’t want to spend a lot of time on it. Again, a lot of energy will be spent on LNP, analysing them etc but that in my opinion is doing disservice to this good labor government. Their first term was productive and free of controversy. They hit all the key issues in people’s lives. Some wanted them to go further as some initiatives show miniature improvements. But regardless, they acknowledged them and they’re trying to do something about it. The alternative keeps flip flopping and demonstrating uncertainty. Australians don’t want uncertainty, they want unity. They don’t want to argue on culture topics like in the US. They want to see better living conditions which are down to day to day issues. How do I see a doctor? How do I put kids to school? How do I deal with HECS? My wife still got around $30k and labor is wiping out 20% of that. That’s $6k in our pocket. $1000 tax deduction with no receipt, small but great. And the list is long. There’s simply a range of quality policies being proposed by labor which is why they killed it.

It's all a charade. Nothing will change. Underneath it all the population seems completely oblivious to the core globalist and anti-Western culture agenda of today's progressives.

And Chalmers jus spent the last few years at war with Australia's core economic institution, the RBA, for increasing and/or not decreasing interest rates fast enough due in large part to his own economic policies. It's all retarded.

geez mate, go get some mixed lollies or something..

Well, retarded or not people clearly have faith in this government. Even if this one is retarded the other options are even more retarded so it’s a no brainer really.

What’s truly retarded is LNP losing the last election but then putting those same people who lost into prominent positions for this election. They already lost!? People already said no in the last election, why are you putting them in charge of this one?

I agree with that one

flollo wrote:

This is a great outcome for the country. I stayed quiet on these forums as I had no doubt about Labor cruising to victory. It’s was crystal clear and I didn’t want to spend a lot of time on it. Again, a lot of energy will be spent on LNP, analysing them etc but that in my opinion is doing disservice to this good labor government. Their first term was productive and free of controversy. They hit all the key issues in people’s lives. Some wanted them to go further as some initiatives show miniature improvements. But regardless, they acknowledged them and they’re trying to do something about it. The alternative keeps flip flopping and demonstrating uncertainty. Australians don’t want uncertainty, they want unity. They don’t want to argue on culture topics like in the US. They want to see better living conditions which are down to day to day issues. How do I see a doctor? How do I put kids to school? How do I deal with HECS? My wife still got around $30k and labor is wiping out 20% of that. That’s $6k in our pocket. $1000 tax deduction with no receipt, small but great. And the list is long. There’s simply a range of quality policies being proposed by labor which is why they killed it.

Great post flollo and i particularly liked what you mentioned about Australia not wanting culture wars like the US. Even though the outcome of the Voice referendum in my opinion was a backwards step for Australia, it still was a vote put to the people, a clear cut decision, which allows space to move on and not get too tangled up socially on the issue...even though i still think we should! ha.
But yeah, i agree completely, Labor have been a fantastic government imo. Easy to find faults for sure, but more good than bad.

""Australia will become more divided as we create more division via immigration of opposing values we will get more issue's like seen in UK and USA""

Na mate the lnp didn't win, u would be correct re division if they did.
Australians overwhelmingly saw through the rw bullshit and voted against it.

andy-mac wrote:

""Australia will become more divided as we create more division via immigration of opposing values we will get more issue's like seen in UK and USA""

Na mate the lnp didn't win, u would be correct re division if they did.
Australians overwhelmingly saw through the rw bullshit and voted against it.

Exactly, even if you’re not pro-Labor, possibly the best thing about this election is that people saw through the Lib’s bullshit and voted accordingly.

flollo wrote:

This is a great outcome for the country. I stayed quiet on these forums as I had no doubt about Labor cruising to victory. It’s was crystal clear and I didn’t want to spend a lot of time on it. Again, a lot of energy will be spent on LNP, analysing them etc but that in my opinion is doing disservice to this good labor government. Their first term was productive and free of controversy. They hit all the key issues in people’s lives. Some wanted them to go further as some initiatives show miniature improvements. But regardless, they acknowledged them and they’re trying to do something about it. The alternative keeps flip flopping and demonstrating uncertainty. Australians don’t want uncertainty, they want unity. They don’t want to argue on culture topics like in the US. They want to see better living conditions which are down to day to day issues. How do I see a doctor? How do I put kids to school? How do I deal with HECS? My wife still got around $30k and labor is wiping out 20% of that. That’s $6k in our pocket. $1000 tax deduction with no receipt, small but great. And the list is long. There’s simply a range of quality policies being proposed by labor which is why they killed it.

Good post...

They have an opportunity now to really set up Australia for long term prosperity.

They will go another couple of terms now as once their agenda starts to show positive sign I think the electorate will approve.

Murdoch and lnp have now lost their power, angry old / young people shouting at the clouds stirring division.

Australia saw where this leads in the USA and have thankfully outright rejected it.

Now Labor need the balls to truly address house prices and not just pussyfoot around the edges.

All recent State [L] Victories have been wiped out & corrected.
ALP gained ground in every [L] State Primary Vote + 2pp count in every [L] state.
Each and every way Aussies could vote they punished toxic [L] Brand!

Seems the [L] Problem is lack of trust + Lousy Governance + [L] Hating everyone & rorting everything
Everything [L] Touches turns to shit the very next day...fucking hopeless!
Despite recently stupidly electing fast failing hopeless Lib Govts >
All [L] States rushed in record numbers [Fact] to paint their towns red!
Certainly Oz won't make this mistake again...ALL clearly regret voting [L] in the State Elections.

OMG...Ya can't say that tbb...that's taboo > too bad so sad tbb don't vote or don't care about [L] Losers!

State ALP [p] > ALP [2pp]
Qld +3.5% > +3.86% (Martini Mussolini has mandated to censor this [L] ideal Olympic Standard Data)
NT +.25% > +0.30%
Tas +9.5% > +4.67%
............................................................................................................................................................................................................................

WA +0.82% > +1.09%
nsw +1.66% > +4.21%
Vic +0.98% > +0.63%
SA +3.98% > +5.55%

Pretty sure the Toxic [L] Brand is stinking out the entire neighbourhood!
[Tip!] For downhearted Liberals > Be just a tad kinder to yer neighbours..
After deflating yer neighbour's footy...be nice enough to return it with a warm gift on their doorstep!
Neighbour : "You dirty fuckin' bastard...gonna kill that [L] Psychopath!"

andy-mac wrote:

""Australia will become more divided as we create more division via immigration of opposing values we will get more issue's like seen in UK and USA""

Na mate the lnp didn't win, u would be correct re division if they did.
Australians overwhelmingly saw through the rw bullshit and voted against it.

Ha ha so when LNP win its because we are not divided and everyone see's through the left wing bullshit?

Im sorry politics is much more complicated than that and every election result has a whole host of factors on why people voted as they did.

Anyone that thinks a labor win equals a less divided society moving forward is delusional, sadly no matter who is in power we will become more divided like all of the Western world because we no longer have the common values that once binded our society together.

Only thing i will agree with is that with so much uncertainty already in the world with Trump and wars etc that people are looking for more stability and dont want more change.

Basically better the devil you know than the devil you dont.

Just read that the majority of the remaining LNP are regional or Nats and the moderates (wets) have been further sidelined, the very ones that are needed to turn the party around away from the culture war nonsense.

What a shit show for them.
The rodent sowed this seed and now it looks like the seeds have sown and turned to weeds....

velocityjohnno wrote:

And that one is a big victory, that the bookies reflected mid February with the swing. Libs have been really thumped. Teals entrenched. Green vote slightly down, One Nation up a little bit. First take is that people want the continuity and security or just not Trump, and Albo becomes 1st PM to continue on since about 2004. For me, Dutton lost it the moment he went nuclear, totally unnecessary and followed by all sorts of weird announcements. In the background, the high cost of living, extremely high house and land prices, industry evisceration via high energy prices should continue, with this parliament to see us importing our gas on the east coast, while being one of the world's largest exporters of gas. This will set the electricity price. As an offset beyond $75 off people's power bills, ALP will part fund battery power storage so I think we'll take this up and have no power bill into the future (save: maintenance) - already nixed the gas bill and got rid of that. Bulk billing is extended, PBS is secure so those are great things. Inflation figures are coming down and immigration has turned down a little but remains much higher than the historical average so the crush loading will continue. Where do the Libs go from here? Even in Vic where the state ALP government is on the nose, there wasn't a large swing in their favour.

What a thread it's been since starting it. How to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, or maybe they never had a chance, will be interesting to see the analysis of trends and demographics over the coming weeks.

100% agree with the nuclear thing.

While i think we should have invested in nuclear decades ago as should have much of the world as part of tackling climate change.(along with renewables)

It was always the strangest move, Aussie's just have way too much fear about nuclear and it's also just a bit late in the piece.

The story of the two dogs.
Once upon a time there were two dogs.
One was a show dog from when he was a puppy which made him very clever when in shows.
He was highly trained in all points of showing including clever grooming and selective barking.
Even when he pooped on people show goers would laugh and clap and say “ isn’t he cute.”
The other was a guard dog from a pup who always wanted to be a show dog.
Try as he might, he would be well groomed , bark loud at bad guys go through all the motions of a show dog but just wasn’t clever enough to impress the crowd.
Try as he might the guard dog was a “no show “dog.
Even while he was in a big show, someone stole his kennel.
The moral of the story is……your either one dog or the other…..
….its good know thyself.

[L] Banned Nuclear for 25 years until 2024-25 [L] then banned Nukes for another 25 years.
All commentators today agree >
Ain't no one touching Oz Nukes with a 40,000,000,000 ft pole for next 40 millenniums.

Q: Why only the Oz Liberal Govt has a penchant to keep Nuking Oz Nuclear in the moon bootie.

Once again [L] kicked the Nuke Footy outta the park...6 & Out...Like durr you fuckin' retards!
If we can't rort Nukes then we'll Nuke the Fucking game board so others can't profit.

Arse End Island Continent will remain last to fit a universal Nuke Shipping Port.
Nah! We don't need yer dirt cheap cargo mate! We'd rather pay extra to starve our nation.

Optimist wrote:

The story of the two dogs.
Once upon a time there were two dogs.
One was a show dog from when he was a puppy which made him very clever when in shows.
He was highly trained in all points of showing including clever grooming and selective barking.
Even when he pooped on people show goers would laugh and clap and say “ isn’t he cute.”
The other was a guard dog from a pup who always wanted to be a show dog.
Try as he might, he would be well groomed , bark loud at bad guys go through all the motions of a show dog but just wasn’t clever enough to impress the crowd.
Try as he might the guard dog was a “no show “dog.
Even while he was in a big show, someone stole his kennel.
The moral of the story is……your either one dog or the other…..
….its good know thyself.

haha, wtf? god, how I hate allegorical aphorism.. simplistic claptrap that can and has been used to patronise and control everything and everyone all at once throughout history. meaningless and untrue generalisations that sound like deeeep truth.. black and white monkey thinking.

I had a long talk with a mate last week in Adelaide, he is being subjected to domestic violence, his new wife won't let him see his 22yo daughter from a previous marriage without her there. My mate's new wife also slags off his mum incessantly, totally insecure, controlling behavior.. she loves the allegory.. telling my mate they are like an oak tree together and the tree that grows alone grows strongest, (while cutting my mate off from important women in his life). Not gender specific, happens every day.

Here's an ad from a 90's Adelaide hard lemonade for ye @Opti.
'Why do you ask, Two Dogs Fucking?'

andy-mac wrote:

Just read that the majority of the remaining LNP are regional or Nats and the moderates (wets) have been further sidelined, the very ones that are needed to turn the party around away from the culture war nonsense.

What a shit show for them.
The rodent sowed this seed and now it looks like the seeds have sown and turned to weeds....

I think people are getting a bit excited about what people voted for...

it's more what people voted against

dutton... incredibly unlikable

nuclear... incredibly ill thought out...

a conservative government opposing tax cuts... just bizarro really... no matter how stupid, desperate, and populist (and out of character) the labor tax cuts were... a conservative government opposing tax cuts is suicide...

no vision...

no policy...

nothing...

and largely bereft and gutted of talent, the libs are the party of nothing...

they've slowly had all their talent voted out over the last few elections - and especially this one...

bishop, frydenberg, wilson, birmingham, even turnball, pyne, and a heap of others... you don't have to like em... but they are least had something... libs've been gutted... and it showed in their hotch potch, ill thought out, flip flopping, (no) policy positions...

they we're essentially un-electable

and now are more than ever

until some real shit hits the fan for labor perhaps...

and there's plenty of shit flying around - currently atmospheric-al - looking for somewhere to land, that can / will undermine labor's position

if unemployment rises, with a large import population... and / or the 'per capita' recession chicken finally comes home to roost... everything changes...

dutton got labor elected

and pretty much nothing else...

Yep

ah well, stinkfinger pointers gonna stinkfinger point..

You don’t have much of a sense of humour base…..and yes Albo deserved his win and I’m very glad it’s a Labor majority with the greens locked out….
Show dog wins …..woof.

sypkan wrote:

andy-mac wrote:

Just read that the majority of the remaining LNP are regional or Nats and the moderates (wets) have been further sidelined, the very ones that are needed to turn the party around away from the culture war nonsense.

What a shit show for them.
The rodent sowed this seed and now it looks like the seeds have sown and turned to weeds....

I think people are getting a bit excited about what people voted for...

it's more what people voted against

dutton... incredibly unlikable

nuclear... incredibly ill thought out...

a conservative government opposing tax cuts... just bizarro really... no matter how stupid, desperate, and populist (and out of character) the labor tax cuts were... a conservative government opposing tax cuts is suicide...

no vision...

no policy...

nothing...

and largely bereft and gutted of talent, the libs are the party of nothing...

they've slowly had all their talent voted out over the last few elections - and especially this one...

bishop, frydenberg, wilson, birmingham, even turnball, pyne, and a heap of others... you don't have to like em... but they are least had something... libs've been gutted... and it showed in their hotch potch, ill thought out, flip flopping, (no) policy positions...

they we're essentially un-electable

and now are more than ever

until some real shit hits the fan for labor perhaps...

and there's plenty of shit flying around - currently atmospheric-al - looking for somewhere to land, that can / will undermine labor's position

if unemployment rises, with a large import population... and / or the 'per capita' recession chicken finally comes home to roost... everything changes...

dutton got labor elected

and pretty much nothing else...

OK posting a video.
But FJ points out here pretty well how Labor does have a plan.

This ol ah they're just the same as each other is getting a bit tiresome...

https://m.

yes I do, @Opti. And I've noted quite often you sometimes do, too : )
sorry, I just baulk at simplistic explainings of human-ness..
we are beautifully complex.. while standing next to the Lib guy for Barker, Tony, I was talking to a lady who liked albo and his dog, she said he 'seemed a bit of a drip, but he means well', and a feller who thought dutton would 'keep the chinese out, not our chinese, but those other ones'.. viva la patchwork..

;)