Extended large E'ly swell ahead with beastly low in Tasman

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Steve Shearer (freeride76)

South-east Queensland and Northern NSW Forecast by Steve Shearer (issued Wed July 30th)

Features of the Forecast (tl;dr)

  • Winds freshen from the W/SW-SW tending S’ly Thurs with an increase in S swell favouring NENSW
  • Similar but a notch smaller Fri
  • Dynamic weekend ahead with intense low expected to form off NENSW/SEQLD coast
  • Small early Sat with a steep increase in size across MNC/North Coast in the a’noon, smaller in SEQLD
  • Offshore winds north of the low, strong SE south of the low
  • Large swells developing Sun, biggest in NENSW with W winds tending to S’ly gales
  • Large swells through next week, tending to large SE-E/SE groundswells with light winds

Recap

Not much to report with small, background E swells hovering in the 1-2ft range and some extra S swell showing to 2ft at S swell magnets in NENSW. Winds were generally light offshore yesterday tending to NW breezes (light NE o/night in places) with light offshore today tending light SW/S through the a’noon.

Small, clean lines of swell across the North Coast

This week (Jul 28-Aug 1)

A precursor low and trough are moving offshore today from the NSW Mid North/North Coast bringing mod/fresh S’lies south of the low. The trough lingers and then deepens rapidly in response to an upper cold pool on Sat. A deep, complex low pressure system (see Beast from the East) then forms in the Tasman and slowly migrates towards the North Island with large E’ly swell pulses generated over a prolonged period. This event will be occupying most of our f/cast attention through the rest of this week and next. 

In the short run we’ll see the S’ly flow ramp up tomorrow with a period of W/SW-SW breezes before S’lies freshen through the day- stronger on the MNC and weaker north of Tweed-Byron. We should see a response in short range S-S/SE swell through tomorrow, with size whipping up from 2-3ft into the 4ft range through the day in NENSW, smaller 2ft at SEQLD S facing beaches where small E’ly swell’s will remain dominant with inconsistent 2ft sets. Not much size or quality to it so keep expectations pegged low.

This initial spike in short range S-S/SE swell holds into Fri morning before backing off as the fetch responsible quickly dissipates and drifts eastwards. Still some 3-4ft surf around in NENSW at S exposed breaks, smaller into SEQLD. Seasonal land breezes should have a W’ly component early before tending SE but we should see winds swing W’ly in northern regions through the a’noon as a low starts to wind up off the Far North Coast. The low axis looks to be initially around the QLD border but we’ll refine that on Fri. Expect temperamental winds around the low through later Fri. Nothing is expected to really develop until Sat so windspeeds should stay light.

This weekend (Aug 2-3)

We’ll have one last look at this Fri but models are now all broadly in agreement over the upcoming low pressure event. 

By first light Sat morning we should see a developing low pressure centre off the NSW North Coast (likely on the Coffs Coast) with a high pressure centre over Tasmania.

Pressure gradients between these two systems tighten quickly through Sat with strong SE-E winds developing on the southern flank of the low and likely extending from the MNC down through the Hunter and into Sydney-Illawarra with a N-S gradient in windspeeds. Gales could develop about the MNC Sat. North of the low- most of the North Coast and SEQLD we should see W’ly winds. It’s likely we will see small surf most of the day in most of the region. The MNC to Coffs coast is more likely to see a rapid rise in SE-E swell through the a’noon, possibly extending up to more northern areas while areas north of Ballina-Byron are more likely to stay small (2-3ft) through the day. We’ll give this a last tweak on Fri.

O/night Sat into Sun the low deepens further and a broad fetch of E’ly gales to potentially severe gales will be aimed up at the NSW Coast. Proximity= size so expect a wild and woolly ocean to develop Sun with large SE’ly-E’ly swells likely to develop across the MNC to North Coast in the 10ft+ range (potentially bigger if the low deepens more explosively than f/cast). We may see a slingshot of the low centre to the NW, parallel to the NSW North Coast bringing S’ly gales through Sun. Surf will develop later in SEQLD with an undersized start likely before size really ramps up through the a’noon, although remaining smaller (6-8ft across the Gold Coast at open beaches, 4-6ft on the Points, smaller on the Sunshine Coast) than NENSW through this initial stage. Early is likely to be the best conditions with lighter W-SW winds before S’ly gales develop through the day.

Next week (Aug 4 onwards)

E’ly gales in a broad fetch remain into the new week with a massive high new New Zealand (1042hPa) acting as supporting cradle for the Tasman low which will be drifting eastwards to a slot north of the North Island. That will lead to elevated surf from the SE-E for most of next week with just a very slow, gradual tapering off as the fetch slowly weakens while remaining basically semi-stationary. Embedded pulses are likely during this slow taper off as areas of stronger winds in the fetch retrograde westwards.

We’ll pencil in size in the 8-10ft range Mon, with size remaining in the 6-8ft range Tues and in excess of 6ft Wed. 

Incidentally there will be some very long period S swell in the mix Sun/Mon from an intense polar low which flares up as it tracks through Tasman Sea longitudes- it probably will  not be noticeable during the full frontal E’ly swell barrage during this time but sets to 3-4ft should be in the water Sun, easing Mon.

OK, local winds. Looking good. They should be rapidly improving into the new week as high pressure moves over the continent. 

The S’ly flow might still be a little bit sticky into Mon but only light and improving through the day to light SE breezes. 

Certainly by Tues we should be in a light wind flow with morning offshores and light a’noon S/SE-SE breezes.

That pattern should extend through Wed and into Thurs with freshening N-NW winds a possibility then as a new front/low approaches from the W.

Easing swells Thurs and Fri but we’re not likely to see surf drop below 4ft until next weekend.

Further ahead we may see another low form in the Tasman over next weekend (9-10/8) - although only EC is interested at this stage.

Lot’s to focus on short term so we’ll keep eyes on that and report back Fri for a last looks before the weekend.

Seeya then.

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simba Wednesday, 30 Jul 2025 at 2:39pm

The Beast is coming ............

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Surfalot67 Wednesday, 30 Jul 2025 at 5:28pm

8 -10ft Monday...North Coast or GC as well Steve?

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freeride76 Wednesday, 30 Jul 2025 at 5:54pm

It'll grade smaller into the GC SL. 8ft on the tweed bar- 6ft on the outer snapper bank.

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Surfalot67 Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 9:42am

Thanks Steve

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Le_Reynard Wednesday, 30 Jul 2025 at 10:23pm

Just when some banks were coming back.
Is pickleball any fun?

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NickT Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 9:09am

What a bummer! There are banks and holes everywhere on the GC right now, good spots in multiple places. This will gut them all out again and create the horrid inshore gutter that runs parallel to the beach for kms. All the sand spitter boat restoration so far is about to feel the wrath of Mother Nature

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burleigh Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 9:52am

Tom Tates sand ship hard work is about to be washed away.

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adsi Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 10:31am

Was really hoping we'd get through winter without any huge swells. This one likely won't be surfable anywhere round here as there's no sand on the NNSW points.
6m swell on sunday arvo/monday morning will be devastating and then the swell is elevated until the end of the week while swinging more easterly.
We can probably kiss goodbye to any decent surf for the rest of winter.

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donweather Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 11:43am

I think post this event we can kiss goodbye to any decent sand well into the back end of Spring, possibly even early Summer.

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adsi Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 3:51pm

Yeh ya not wrong Don, I was thinking its probably a write off for the rest of the year.
Was hoping for a big downgrade, but 3-4 days of 8ft+ east quadrant swell is going to be nasty

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donweather Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 6:44pm

The longer period stuff from mid week onwards is fine. It's the more locally generated energy stuff from Sunday to mid week-ish that's gonna do most of the damage to the sand. Expect to see some serious erosion of the dunes with big sand cliffs and retreating treeline again.

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adsi Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 8:18am

Yeh i was more concerned about that Sunday-Tuesday period. Looks like models have revised size down from the 6m peak to 5m sunday arvo/monday morning. Still going to absolutely gut the coast again.
Models suggesting that size goes large again into next weekend too.
Im getting my moon boot off in 2 weeks and looks like there'll be no banks. This year can get in the bin.

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freeride76 Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 8:21am

It was a year ago when banks first got destroyed- they've never really come back.

In aggregate, this last 12 months has been the worst I've ever seen for wave quality.

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juegasiempre Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 8:28am

Agree. There was a massive S swell a year ago that fucked everything and took months to get back to surfable. Then a couple of big S swells and the knockout cyclone Alfred earlier this year. The last month or so there's been some banks shaping up and they're about to get detonated. Even the point surfs have been shithouse.

Please let this not be the new normal. It's been a really bad financial year for surf for northern NSW. Shoalhaven wins the east coast cup.

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Vince Neil Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 10:41am

C'mon mate, the water is too cold for starters and the south swell misses us completely, and we dont get the trade or cyclone swell and i could go on...

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Mcface Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 9:16am

Incredible. Down south where we're less reliant on the sand, it's been a season of plenty. Mind you the banks at my local are cooked, but still plenty of places around to score.

As it happens I'm up north for the next week or so, will be interesting to see if there's somewhere working. Was keen to pay a visit your way FR but will keep expectations moderated.

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hamishbro Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 5:33pm

Crew here is very informed..
Obviously a fascinating weather event but we’re not dealing with solid reef here are we.
The vagaries of sand or lack thereof are a huge factor. Context is everything.
One hopes that the sand washed out to form outer storm bars in some locations during TC Alfred will magically pack back in.
My question is:
Is that possible?
Or does the new swell simply wash it further out to sea?

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pjbyron Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 5:40pm

see ya sand... again!

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stevehamilton_ Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 5:51pm

Why is it that every significant swell is a bank destroyer?
Is there a limit to how much swell the NNSW / SEQLd coast can handle without ruining banks?
I recall many 6 foot swells years ago that came did there thing we all scored and then life went on and we continued to get waves after.
Is it just in the wake of Alfred that this is an issue? It seems to me though that crew have complained of big swells ruining banks for a few years now.
Genuinely curious

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freeride76 Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 5:59pm

There has always been bank busting swells but Alfred was unusual for the duration of large swells and the subsequent erosion that was then exacerbated further over autumn.

What has been unusual has been the complete lack of longshore sand transport in the intervening period.
We've had a winter of small S swells and this would usually get the longshore transport system happening.

Not a single grain of sand has moved in that fashion.

It's just been a very incremental, almost grain by grain shoreward movement of sand - but still nowhere near "normal" banks.

All of which will be lost again.

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donweather Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 6:47pm

There's been some significant sand movement in the last month or so here. Entire beaches just have scallop with sand spits followed by scallops with sand spits as far as the eye can see. Also some serious sand returned into the north facing bays.

But I'm kissing all that goodbye come Sunday and beyond.

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benskii Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 9:15am

That's what I've noticed here. I can't remember if your here is also my here, dw. Sunny coast?

It's been quite a remarkable change, especially compared to how long it took to recover from the erosion from autumn 2022. That seemed to take forever.

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donweather Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 11:40am

No I'm not on the SC. South of the border.

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Halfscousehalfc... Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 8:57pm

Hasn’t been many long period south swells this winter but….they seem to bring in the sand, for eg winter 2023 when there were pretty few banks in nsw and wide as beaches…..

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Distracted Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 7:06pm

FreeRide I was thinking the sand is still there, possibly even with some long shore drift occurring but it’s just too far offshore to be drawn around the points and onto the beaches?
Be interesting to see some detailed bathymetric profiles pre Alfred and at regular intervals since then.

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freeride76 Thursday, 31 Jul 2025 at 7:36pm

The reason I'm so sure there has been no longshore transport is for the last 6 weeks, right through all those little S swells, there was quite a pronounced reverse rip- ie north to south current.

Longshore transport is S to N.

So, there must be an unusual EAC inshore current (which is supported by the long tail tuna run right through this period).

If the EAC is strong inshore, it will be stronger on the shelf.

There is definitely movement of sand landward on some of the beaches and scalloping but no sand build-ups where normal longshore sand transport occurs.

Don alluded to it- I think the worst part of this event for erosion will be Sun when the low centre retrogrades back to the coast and then slingshots northwards parallel to the coast with S'ly gales.
That will move an immense amount of sand.

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Distracted Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 5:39am

Interesting about the reverse rip, what are the water temps like? Water is average for winter here on the MNC approx. 17-18, so no obvious EAC related spikes. Maybe there was a more localised eddy of the Far North Coast.

Maybe sand transport by longshore drift processes is limited when the sand sits further offshore in the large storm bars which keep redeveloping this year.

The Tweed Sand Bypass should be able to quantify sand quantities being deposited on the south side. Be interesting to compare if sand volumes are lower this year than previous years.

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back beach Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 10:21am

Climate change has a lot to answer for with increased SST's altering EAC passage and multiple La Nina events changing what once was routine passages of our pressure systems. This may well be the new norm

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freeride76 Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 10:23am

That's my working hypothesis: that we are seeing structural changes to seasonal norms.

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Vince Neil Friday, 1 Aug 2025 at 10:44am

100% with you.