Jack Frost Joins The Bite Club

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Stu Nettle (stunet)
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Coming from Ballina in northern NSW, Jack Frost was familiar with sharks. The 24-year old lived and surfed through the region's 'white terror' years, when a cluster of attacks had the surfing community on edge.

That was all behind him, or so he thought, as he paddled out to Boat Ramp bommie, near Margaret River, last Monday.

Jack was surfing solo, though he wasn't alone.

Swellnet: You're originally from Ballina. Why were you were over in WA?
Jack Frost: We left Ulladulla on the East Coast - I was living down there for close to a year - and then my girlfriend and I spent four months in South Oz just chasing waves. We came over to the West Coast to earn some coin and settle down for a bit. The plan was to hang around this area for a while, plus do a couple of stints up north, but I don't know...if I get nailed by another shark, I'll probably fuck off back to the East Coast.

How long have you been down south in WA for now?
Jack: Two months.

Hasn't been a great winter, has it?
Oh, it's been disgusting. It's been like 50 knots onshore and 50 mills of rain a week.

Yet it looked like a pretty good morning out at Boaties. Had you surfed the wave before?
No, I hadn't. And, I don't know, the conditions were pretty ordinary. I'd call it pretty average. It was a bit cross-shore, bit of devil wind blowing up the face, swell was like 3.7 [metres] in the morning and then it was just slowly dropping off. So I think by the time I was out there, it was only three metres on the buoys.

Was there anyone else out there?
There were a couple of blokes out in the morning and then I paddled out and they were like, "Oh, it's pretty shit out here." And they fucked off and went in.

Right. So you ended up alone?
Yeah.

Do you recall the moments leading up to the hit?
Yeah, I actually got a wave but it was a pretty shit one, and I'm like, 'Oh, I can't go in on that. I want to get something better'. I'd seen a couple nice ones with a bit of wall and that's what I had my eye on catching. But it wasn't happening, I was just sitting out the back and I wasn't feeling it. I started thinking, 'Oh, fuck this, I'm going in.'

I was sitting a bit wide of the lineup, or where I really should've been sitting. I think I kind of paddled out and didn't paddle up enough, so I was just kind of sitting in the channel. And then as I was sitting on my board it just fucking came up and smacked me.

From what direction?
From underneath. Just straight underneath. I got my board back today, the fisheries officer come and dumped it. So looking at the bite marks I think it came at me straight up from underneath.


The incident captured on Swellnet's Boat Ramp surf cam

The vision of it made it look like a big hit.
What I think happened is that it hit straight underneath and because I was sitting up on my board I got super lucky. It just nicked my leg. When I say 'nicked' I've still got a good gash on my leg and a couple puncture wounds a bit higher, but nothing crazy; nothing like what it could've been.

Anyway, it's hit me and I've done a kind of back flip off my board. Landed in the water and as I've surfaced, I'm thinking, 'What the fuck was that?'. It was getting into my board and holding it up in the air. The shark was kind of across me, one of its pectoral fins hit me in the groin area.

So you felt its skin, got a sense of its size?
Yeah. And then I ended up sort of spinning backwards. Kind of...what's the word? Not manhandled, but shouldered by it. But I just figured I'm not going to roll over for it, so I moved onto its back and started punching its head a few times. That doesn't really do much; it didn't even flinch. But then I started punching it in the side towards the gills and I must have got one punch in where it's touch sensitive and it just fucking shot down into the depths.

It went quiet and then I got back on my board. Thank fuck my legrope wasn't in its mouth.

Your board..?
My board's fucked, it's flexing through the middle. It's gone through the stringer.

Can we talk about the board for a moment?
Sure.

How big?
8'1" Three inches thick, twenty wide.

Who made it?
Gunther Rohn. It's such a good shape. I love that thing. It turns so well and so good in big barrels. Last of its kind too. I can't get that glasser/shaper combo anymore because old Cleggie's [Mark Cleghorn] retired. So yeah, that board was pretty special to me.

It's gonna be remembered in more ways than one now.
Yeah, it's definitely going on the wall from now on.

OK, so back to the water, you've punched it and it's taken off, but I guess you've got no idea what happens next. What was going through your mind?
Yeah, I was pretty frightened at the start when I was on its back and then punching it. When it shot down I was thinking 'Fuck, where is this thing?' I'm on my board looking under the water and the water was so green, and then I've just realised that I had to paddle, and obviously it's a pretty big paddle too.

I started paddling straight into the impact zone, thinking that if I get in there I'm a little bit safer. I knew my leg had been dusted, but I didn't know how bad, and I didn't look either. The only thought was, 'Fuck, I need to get out of here'.

Yet no waves broke for a while.
No waves broke, mate. None the whole way in.

Were you expecting another hit? What was going through your mind?
I was just saying to myself, "You're going to be all right. You're going to survive." Just doing what I could to try and keep calm. I knew that if I got really tired my heart was going to run quicker, and if I did have a good cut then I was probably going to lose a lot of blood. So I was just trying to keep myself pretty calm but also head down, arse up on the way in.

I imagine some people lose their shit when terrified, but they all sound like rational actions, Jack. Have you had any prior experience with sharks?
I've always fished and dived. Done a lot of diving, though never with whites. I've seen whites in the surf before but never had that sort of encounter - obviously. I guess diving, and a few other sports that keep you mentally strong...I guess they all helped.

Sounds like you're a little bit more comfortable than the average person around sharks, would that be correct?
Oh fuck, I don't know, maybe...

Actually, I'm definitely not going to say yes to that one.

Fair enough. OK, how long do you think it took you to paddle in?
Fuck mate, honestly, no idea. That paddle in was all such a blur. Maybe a minute to get to the gutter? There's a little bit of reef you've got to cut through and I figured that if I can get to the gutter I'd look at my leg.

I looked at it and there was a bit of a gash there. There was a fair bit of blood in the water. So I took my leggy off and tied a tourniquet on my leg and then I really tried hard to bring my calmness down - controlled my breathing, focussed my mental state on getting to the shore.

You've still got to cross that last stretch of water where the waves back off.
Yeah, I still hammered it through that last stretch, though it was slower than the earlier pace. That first bit of paddling out the back, I was just absolutely going for it.

Once I was in there, I began thinking that I'm going to make it and I'm going to be alright. My leg wasn't mangled, I even had full mobility.

Had anyone seen it from land?
I've heard reports after the fact that some people saw it and they just blew it off. They were like, "Fuck did I just watch a shark attack?" But like I said, there was a lot of devil wind and spray coming off the face, and it's pretty far out. If you're just looking at it with your eyes and you're down at beach level, it would've been pretty fucken hard to tell.

Potentially, my mate might've even seen it. We had a coffee at the top of the carpark and he was kind of watching me surf and he might've seen it. He doesn't know. And there was another bloke who I had a coffee with this morning and he was like, "Oh, I think my mate might've watched it."

So did anyone come to your aid when you were approaching the beach?
Yeah, I ended up calling down some people just when I got to the shore. They were elderly and I didn't want to startle them. I'm like, "I'm okay, but I've been attacked by a shark." And they were both like, "Oh fuck."

After that, some other people came down there and I ended up taking my legrope fully off my board and strapping up my leg hard, really cranking on it a couple knots, then wrapping it, cranking it again. That stopped the bleeding. And then this chick took my board and I actually had to walk 150 metres up to the cafe where I was met by a random nurse. An off-duty nurse. She just happened to be there. These other people helped, they were all absolute legends, and they said they were going to call an ambulance.

I told them, "Look, I've got no coin, I don't really want to jump in the back of an ambo right now."

So they said, "That's OK, we'll drive you then." My car was just around the corner, I didn't want to get blood in their car, and she was like, "Nah, don't be stupid, get in."

So I ended up jumping in the back of this chick's car and then the nurse sat in the back with me and put pressure on my leg. They drove me to the hospital, they were both legends. The nurse called up the hospital and was asking all the questions and just got the hospital completely ready for me. So as soon as we got to Margs [Hospital] they knew everything. They were pretty much waiting for me at the front door and they were straight into it.

That's awesome.
Good effort by everyone involved.

So whereabouts on your leg did it actually strike you?
I'd say halfway on my thigh in the middle of my thigh. Kind of on the top a bit.

How many stitches did you end up getting?
I don't know. They just stitched it up and now there's a dressing on it. It's a running stitch, that's all I know.

Jack getting transferred from Margaret River Hospital to Bunbury (Photo: The West)

The incident puts you in a pretty rare club: people who've been hit by a white and survived. How are you reflecting on it?
I've been trying to think about it and process the whole incident. It could've been so different had the odds not been in my favour. I've taken the 10% that was in my favour and I've used it all. That was the way that someone put it to me. But I guess it's just one of those things that I've come out on top, which I'm grateful for.

Also, when I think about it. It hit me with pace. It was coming up from the depths and fast. I think that's probably what saved me because it hit me and threw me off my board, so that when it went my board and I wasn't on it.

Has anyone reached out to you that's been through similar sort of situation?
Well being from Ballina there's obviously been a few people who have been bitten and survived - and also sadly some people that haven't survived. So a few friends from over east have been like, "You're probably going to go through some shit. I'm here for you," which is really nice. Just knowing there's that support network. I don't have many mates over this side but just to feel love from back home has been amazing. I'm on the other side of the country and everyone's still behind me and wants to help me as much as possible.

That's great to hear, mate. When we started talking, you mentioned that you had travelling plans. Has anything changed?
Yeah, a little bit. We're going to take this time to recover. Just however long it takes me. And then, yeah, we might shoot up north for the end of the season and do some diving and fishing and maybe get the odd wave. But first we're going to see what the recovery time's like before we start making plans.

Diving and fishing. You're fully comfortable with that?
Yeah, a hundred percent. I'm keen to get back out there. I know I'm pretty lucky to have that experience and come out on top, but I think the longer I leave it, the worse it'll get.

I did a lot of solo surfing before this; surfed a lot of bommies and shit, which never really worried me. I think now I'll be a bit more cautious and be surfing with at least one other person.

Good idea. Thanks for your time, Jack.
Thanks, mate.

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goofyfoot Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:12pm

Hard core!

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goofyfoot Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:13pm

Good interview too Stu, asked the questions everyone wants to know (I’m assuming)

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stunet Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:46pm

Cheers GF. Jack was a champ. I asked him if there was any part of it he was still processing or wasn't comfortable with, and he said he was happy to discuss any aspect of it.

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frog Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:14pm

Great survival story. That might be one shark that thinks twice about hitting one of those strange silhouettes that hang around the surf zone again. A mouth full of surfboard and punch in the gills is not as appealing as a fleshy seal.

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Wong Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:31pm

I put my foot though the rail of my board once when trying to bail a little too late on an end section and got cut up by the fibreglass, that sharks gums are not going to be feeling go after digging into that thing. Very lucky lad, it's a shame the conditions were so average for this shit to happen

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Gowsa Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:37pm

Looks like a big bite
Any reports on How big was the Shark was estimated to be?

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mredhill Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 2:44pm

Intense.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:04pm

Thats an incredible story.

That guy did everything right, but still amazing composure in a life and death situation.

Crazy how big that first hit was.

What still confounds me, is how after the hit, it went for the board.

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donweather Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:16pm

I think that proves how random these attacks are Steve. The shark has no idea what it’s attacking. All it knows is go hard and fast and you’ll get fed something.

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freeride76 Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:27pm

And yet we've seen so much footage where they are cautious and check things out to see if it is suitable prey.

I wonder if this one did a drive by first?

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Gowsa Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:32pm

Exactly - lets stop wasting money on tagging/tracking sharks to "understand them better", and more on what will stop them attacking in the first place. Sharks are just Big Dumb Fish
Stripes like Orcas, scent of dead sharks, sunscreen, whatever.

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simba Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:22pm

A lot of cases where they go for the board after the initial attack and not the surfer.......

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omong-kosong Sunday, 6 Aug 2023 at 11:21am

Boards look a lot like fish. I was attacked last year, nice set of teeth marks in my board and luckily only a small nick.in my leg as it struck, lifted my board up in the air and then came back for the board again and copped the top half.in the mouth. If it went for my legs I would have been done...

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goofyfoot Sunday, 6 Aug 2023 at 11:57am

Fucken hell!
You back in the water?

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omong-kosong Sunday, 6 Aug 2023 at 12:24pm

What's the chances of it happening again?
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Right?

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Island Bay Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:13pm

Great interview. All the best to Jack.

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simba Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:18pm

Great story and well done Jack, speedy recovery....love how thoughtful he is......dont want to get blood in your car...haha full monty python ......solid bite

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udo Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:26pm

Fuckn Hell Man
You are one CoolCat
Gunther's Shaping your new Gun now and Cleggies coming out of Retirement to Glass It
Yew !

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yvdreh Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:55pm

Abso-fucking-lutely mental! Wow!

Great interview

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Nick Bone Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 3:55pm

Fucking props to telling himself everything is gonna be fine and keeping a lid on it. That is some serious mental fortitude.

Also, it seems quite often that there is a off duty something-or-other on hand. Maybe my memory is being selective here. Regardless, glad to hear help was close by after that paddle back in!!

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basesix Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:23pm

yeh, good point, AI medics and bots ain't gonna be chilling in a cafe when drama strikes. Very, very good interview.

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mowgli Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 10:22am

This is a really underrated comment.

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Thegrowingtrend.com Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 4:16pm

There goes my theory on surfing bigger boards to avoid sharks.
Always a bigger fish out there

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bbbird Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 6:46pm

Sitting on a shorter, thinner 'pro' board means your submersed...

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More tubes please Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 6:46am

Sounds like the board saved him in this case,

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tip-top1 Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 4:39pm

crazy story , very lucky guy ,

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PCS PeterPan Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 4:45pm

I fully respect this guys attitude , best of luck with the recovery Jack .
What a story !

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mpeachy Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 4:47pm

There's a lot of things paid for with tax dollars that are far less useful than what a free ambulance would have been to that guy

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dandandan Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 9:51pm

Yeah it's pretty weird reading that as a Tasmanian. Ours are free, even for the people that pretend to be having a heart attack to get a ride into the city and then do a runner to the pub as soon as the doors fling open. In WA it costs $1076.

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Pops Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 9:51am

Insane that someone who desperately needs an ambulance has to think "can I afford this?".

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Seaweed Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 10:11am

I’m pretty sure ambos are free for anyone on Centrelink claiming Centrelink

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Pops Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 11:05am

Possibly, but doesn't align with experience - I've had people refuse an ambo a couple of times when they really needed it... Ignored refusals & paid myself a couple of times too when no-one was in a fit state to drive.
Maybe the centrelink thing is not widely known/advertised? And you don't have to be on centrelink to not be able to afford an ambo.

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rj-davey Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 9:36am

Ambos in Qld would be climbing over one another to finally attend a legit job like this.

Well done Jack. An epic account well told. Great interview too Stu.

To quote Darryl Kerrigan, looks like very everybody's kicked a goal.

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flow Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:28pm

Jack be nimble Jack be quick.

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Vunerable Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:38pm

Good Onya, Jack. I’d say that boards pretty special .
Good glass job saved your life.
Boat ramp is a big paddle in and out.
Mate Horse lost his board out there years ago and had to swim in.
It sounds like you got a pretty good piece of that shark yourself anyway.
Hopefully it tells its mates about being thumped.
Can imagine it was a pretty good feeling to get back to sand.

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Vunerable Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:38pm

Good Onya, Jack. I’d say that boards pretty special .
Good glass job saved your life.
Boat ramp is a big paddle in and out.
Mate Horse lost his board out there years ago and had to swim in.
It sounds like you got a pretty good piece of that shark yourself anyway.
Hopefully it tells its mates about being thumped.
Can imagine it was a pretty good feeling to get back to sand.

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Andrew P Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:41pm

A1 interview piece Stu! Ask the questions everyone wants to know but let the dude do all the talking. How hardcore and understated young Jack Frost is. Keeping cool under pressure - ice cold in fact!

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Swany Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:45pm

Nails. Happy you survived a Jack. Great interview.

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andy-mac Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:49pm

Great interview, heavy situation handled well, crikey that would have been a long paddle.
Quick recovery Jack, and hope you score up NW WA!

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Bob Sacamano Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 5:52pm

Farking mental story. All the best with your recovery Jack. I could only hope if I was ever in a similar situation I had a slither of your fight and composure.

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shane-peel Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 8:34pm

Staunch! Good on ya Jack. Really solid interview Stu all the questions I wanted answers for, no bluster or hype, nailed it.

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zenagain Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 8:53pm

Great interview. Captivating reading.

Can't really add much to the above but all the best for your recovery and getting back into it Jack.

Seconded above- Wtf paying for an ambulance?

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southernraw Tuesday, 1 Aug 2023 at 9:20pm

Crikey! What a story!! Fantastic interview Stu and awesome effort Jack.
Stoked you're still with us!
Loved the fact he's bleeding from the leg but doesn't want to startle the oldies as he's approaching shore so just gently warms them to the idea he's been attacked. What a legend.
Had a couple of pre sunrise sessions out there on my own to beat the local crew. Spooky as hell.
Speedy recovery for him, physically and mentally.

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Solitude Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 6:45am

So glad to hear you’re going well Jack.

To be laying across the back of a white, my gosh! Looking down and seeing your thigh has been cut must’ve been terrifying.

Your poise, consideration for others and salt of the earth comments are inspiring mate.

Go live a great life, I hope you’re charging those bombies again soon.

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lostdoggy Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 7:33am

Cut from a different cloth.

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Craig Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 7:36am

Incredible story and such clear thinking from Jack. Wow, couldn't say I'd react the same, all the best for a full recovery.

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Westofthelake Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 10:16am

Unreal, as above. There's a $100 mill Powerball draw tomorrow night, just sayin'.

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larry01 Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 12:11pm

Insane. Great interview. I wonder if the green board had anything to do with attracting the shark?

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Ray Shirlaw Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 3:58pm

Its been hypothesized that green is actually the one colour which they find hard to get a visual fix on, so probably not. Cripes,ya just cant get a win with the Baastards!!

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larry01 Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 7:08pm

I guess just unlucky followed by a fair amount of luck.

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bbbird Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 6:41pm

Green boardshorts were considered bad luck at Uluwatu 30 yrs ago, cause a guy got bitten by a seasnake on the pecker... musta been wearing baggy pants.

Apparently sharks see shapes (silhouette ) in black and white... cause they have lots of cones.
Reference and tips for swimmers
https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2009/11/26/2754146.htm

We could encourage the wild Orca population's & train them for shark protection ?


like we trained wolves .... into becoming domestic dogs.

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bbbird Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 8:27pm

Shame we took all their food; seals, whales for 100 years in the Pacific (& more recently the fish ).
Shame we BLASTED their ear drums to stop subs in WW2 & now.... to find ocean bed oil and gas.

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andy-mac Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 10:42am

Nyai Roro Kidul likes boys in green shorts! Hence never wear green boardies in Indo.

https://tatangmanguny.wordpress.com/dongeng-sunda/nyi-roro-kidul/
"Another pervasive part of folklore surrounding her is the colour of green, gadhung m’lathi in Javanese, is referred to her, which is forbidden to wear along the south-coast of Java."

https://theculturetrip.com/asia/indonesia/articles/nyai-roro-kidul-the-i...

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Bustard Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 12:27pm

Good read, though I suspect young jack has had multiple on dusk paddle backs from south wall in his hometown to desensitise somewhat, did that twice and that was twice too many for me.

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bbbird Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 6:51pm

Rivermouth paddles can be a religious experience ....
Just dont go across when the trawlers are coming back to the Co-op (& throwing the bycatch overboard). The sharks have been trained to follow the food & throbbin sound of the engines....

This attack was near a boat ramp....been onshore and 50 mills of rain a week.

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Seaweed Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 10:14am

You can often watch them doing just that from the P Island bridge

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mowgli Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 10:29am

I remember as a grom surfing just in front of Missingham bridge when swell was too big for me... cut feet up on the rocks getting in... surf an hour and foot bleeding whole time and not a second given to thinking about sharks.

Contrast with now and I'm paranoid the bleeding mozzie bite I scratched too vigorously is going to cause a sharknado around me.

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peabo Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 1:20pm

Just took a look at this spot on Google Maps. No fucken thank you. I'll stick to the shoreys.

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Remigogo Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 2:33pm

From what I've seen the shoreys arent much better. But half a kay out though, sheez. One would bobbing around like a needle in a hay stack. Have to be pretty unlucky.

Fascinating read Stu. All the best in your recovery Jack.

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WarriSymbol Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 2:40pm

Hope that shark gets the shits from having wax stuck in its teeth for the next however long.

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lostdoggy Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 3:44pm

And spreads the word.

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Shaun Hanson Wednesday, 2 Aug 2023 at 6:40pm

Lucky fella ..Fucks me why more poeple dont use shark dererrants

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mowgli Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 10:26am

Yeah coming from QLD, having to put ambo transport into insurance cover blew me away when I did the almost-mandatory WA mining stint. You'd think given how cashed up and 'in the black' WA is, they'd be happy to cover this.

Population 2.7 million, at cost of $1080 each = circa $2.9bn... and that's only if every one of the mob actually used it. That govt always gives off uber rich but a bit odd sometimes crazy uncle vibes...

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mikehunt207 Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 11:19am

Yeah the WA ambulance / St John insurance is an odd one (not that expensive either) , if uninsured you get charged if you get picked up from somewhere on a 000 call but if they transfer you from hospital to another hospital (as they would have done in this case, Margs hospital is pretty small and doesnt do anything too risky) the transfer is free, even if the helicopter you up to Perth.
Maybe just trying to cull some of the "emergency" patients that could get themselves to a GP or to the ED on their own merit ?
Ambulances are pretty short supply in the country and all volunteer crew / drivers down here too, so sometimes a lot faster to call hospital tell them your coming and get yourself there rather than sit around on the beach / side of the road for an hr + while the Volly,s leave their jobs somewhere get to the ambulance and then get to the scene.

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dogrockdog Saturday, 5 Aug 2023 at 1:40pm

Crashed my car, broke my back a few years ago near halls creek, remote WA. 200 K ambo drive to halls creek. Then RFDoctors flight to Broome. Then RFDoctor fight to Perth, ambo to hospital . Didn’t cost a cent . Maybe because it was remote ? Mind you they expected me to catch a train home after a few days.

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radiationrules Thursday, 3 Aug 2023 at 7:12pm

"It went quiet and then I got back on my board." - talk about a man of great courage.. and then some..I imagine that the free diving technique that leads to calm breath-holding must have helped Jack's focus.

As a side note - I was fishing on a rock ledge, a long way offshore, sth coast NSW, when a GW went perfectly vertical into the air, about two body lengths up, then like a plum bomb straight back down again; it sounds similar to this animals attack strategy. Thanks be that it broke the stringer with its headbutt and didn't get a purchase on Jack's leg.

An amazing story of survival - congratulations on your superior mental focus Jack - I'm a big admirer and you've I've upgraded my knowledge from eyes to punching for the gills if (hopefully not) ever required.

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truebluebasher Friday, 4 Aug 2023 at 9:45pm

Truly inspiring on every level...thanx for sharing Jack.
Above & Beyond with Stu & swellnet...real time Vid of Shark Attack reliving survival to recovery!
tbb joins crew in thanking rescuers, swellnet & sending best wishes in healing for surf safari.

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eastcoastbuoy Saturday, 5 Aug 2023 at 8:23am

Jack Frost…..Geez one tough ice cool young man. All the best for a speedy full recovery Jack!
The days when we were kids and the name Jack Frost….. a personification of frost, ice, snow, sleet, winter, and freezing cold. He is a variant of Old Man Winter.

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truebluebasher Saturday, 5 Aug 2023 at 12:08pm

First up!...Qldurr don't mean to interfere here...
However, any Qldurr reading...feels obliged to assist on this Ambo Cover deal...
Strictly adding by request...only coz Qldurrz feel it will help in similar events!

2018 Oz Ambulance Cases in general.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-20/ambulance-fees-around-australia/1...
2022 Oz Ambulance interstate Charges (This is a pretty good list!) Still current!
https://www.news.com.au/best-of/money/how-much-does-an-ambulance-cost-in...

Notes: On Qld Free Interstate Ambo Cover (This may assist other states)
2003-11 Qldurrz paid thru Power Bills (Then stopped)
2011 Transferred to Annual Land Bank Stamp Duty on $2m land parcels (Stamp Duty / Mining Levies)

Border Arrangements (All recall NSW (vs) Qld Border Wars)
2020 Qld has no Border Commissioner
Qld provides Flexi Free Health service to Nth NSW.
2021 Qld tears up NSW $30m Covid Bill
2023 NSW hands Qld $100m Covid Bill ( Games Edition ?)
Qld mumbled somethin' bout yer GST will cover it...

eg: Tas Ambo is free but not in SA / Qld (vs) Qld Ambo is free in Tas & every state for all Qldurrz!

None talk about this...Can't help but think > (Qld's Flexi Border with No Commissioner).
Qld ALP know enough to oppose installing a Border commissioner ...Why! Likely lies at the heart of this.
Almost as if Aussies are obliged to equally care for Qld swagman alongside First Nation...Get it!
Did notice that roving Pickers & Frontline truckers may fall under similar transient exemption.
Also State emergency Choppers rescuing Cruise Ship passengers fly interstate with exemption.
Quite a long list of exemptions that blur between States / Frontline / Health Cards / Students / Visas.

The way this reads, is that Feds cover any Frontline Health 'incentives' by way of GST exemptions.
Basically if any State geared toward Free Ambos the Feds / Natcab are obliged to cover it!
Cover it by exempting the Frontline service as readers here necessitate for Australians one & all.

The trick being to first reallocate funding for start up year to then exempt costs!
Ya see : Once implementing a scheme one needs to cover that for any election campaign.
A back up plan...Qld ALP needed to reduce Power Bills but lost election weighed down by Ambo Levy.
Post election the Ambo Levy was again a Priority Issue for Can Do Libs.

Just as crew allude to here...this would be a red hot Poll issue...that's why it's avoided by all parties!

P.S. Qldurr tbb just registered & booked $25 return Transcord Mini Bus
Tricky! As Bus don't start until after am Hospital Ops...
Basically paid $25 for return only...fair enough so tbb tipped the driver $10.
Now cop an additional $15 Annual Rego fee in the mail.
Quoted $25 + $10 tip + $15 Rego...that turned into $50 one way just like that!
Crew can see a Taxi is a cheaper return trip but Hospital refuse to allow them!
Advice : Always ask...tbb is sharing coz extra 'Annual Rego Fee' may come as a standard rude shock!

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Chris Pezet Monday, 7 Aug 2023 at 7:25am

Everyone should have ambulance cover as single person maybe $80 p.a, pretty cheap to then not have to think about paying costs when in an emergency. Insisted my two boys have it once they left study and without insurance, forever reminding them.

Private health insurance will include it and I am pretty sure if you are a full time student you are also covered (VIC anyway I know).

Don't want to be thinking about ambulance coverage when you need one, Jack does indeed have a clear mind in a tight situation, good luck to him.

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Clam Monday, 7 Aug 2023 at 8:48am

get the board fixed and keep riding it. don't leave the board behind, it's gotta be a favourite and would look kool too with those scratch marks the shark made

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groovie Monday, 7 Aug 2023 at 8:43pm

Amazing coolness in a life & death situation Mr.Frost! My best mate was attacked by a 4.5 m GWS & fought for his life by kicking it in the face several times(Colin Rowland Dec 1 2016 @ Seven mile bch mid Nth Coast NSW). after it hit him just like you've described in your attack! All the best with your recovery Jack both mentally & physically!That paddle in must have felt like an eternity mate!