WSL Plan: More Comps In Pools

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Swellnet Dispatch

Recently, the WSL announced the Surf Ranch would return to the CT schedule after a one-year hiatus. The news wasn't a great surprise considering their investment in the Kelly Slater Wave Company (KSWC).

Overnight, however, the Woz has made another announcement about wavepools and this one comes from left field.

As per the press release, "the WSL has created guidelines for evaluating and hosting competitions in wave systems across the Pro Junior, Qualifying Series, and Longboard tiers."

Though there's nothing yet written in the rulebook, nor their tour schedules, the Woz will announce new competitions in these "wave basins" later this year.

The upcoming tour schedule - typically released mid-November - will hold further details.

The stage is now set for surfers to earn QS points in land-locked locations - such as Switzerland (Wavegarden)

Though they acquired KSWC to run surf contests there'll be no play for exclusivity. Said Erik Logan, "We look forward to working with other facilities to both sanction and run WSL events there, as well as continue to host elite-level WSL Championship Tour events at the WSL Surf Ranch."

With set dates and no waiting period, wavepool contests are shorter and hence cheaper to run. This is a valid concern for QS contests which have been drying up in recent years. For instance, last year Hawaii had just one Men's QS contest to decide who'll surf on the Challenger Series, while this year they had two, and neither were held in waves over three feet.

Kelly Slater Wave technology will be the only system to earn the 'WSL Certified' designation, meaning the waves are fit for CT competition.

Already, Wavegarden pools have hosted various junior and state-level contests. Rip Curl Gromsearch events have been held in Melbourne and Praia da Grama, Brazil, while Melbourne has also hosted the Victorian Titles. 

With the most pools in the ground, plus operating infrastructure, Wavegarden appear best prepared to benefit from the news. In turn, they released a press release of their own stating, "surfers and fans alike can look forward to hearing some big announcements very soon."

EDIT: Didn't have to wait long. URBNSURF have just made said announcement with a QS happening in the Tulla Tub next month. See below:

The Rip Curl Pro URBNSURF presented by Pirate Life, a World Surf League (WSL) Qualifying Series event, will happen on Saturday December 10th and see 80 male and female surfers from across Australia and Oceania compete. This is the first time a Qualifying series has been held in a wave park in Australia.

Surfing fans are welcome to come and watch 40 men and 40 women carve it up on the left and right, while live music adds to the summer vibe from The Lawns, bringing the park to life.

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adam12 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 10:47am

Seems logical, sounds boring

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Island Bay Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 10:53am

Yeah, super excited.

I'll just leave this here in the meantime...

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Craig Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:18am

Wow!

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wax-on-danielson Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 2:52pm

Which pools is this, surf lake?

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Woollybuoy Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 5:26am

Read the article and you will find out mate

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icandig Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 6:37am

You might've missed the sarcasm in the comment wooly. Read from top down and you'll find out.

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icandig Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 6:37am

mate

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memlasurf Saturday, 12 Nov 2022 at 9:28am

Ha, ha gold!

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OHV500 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 4:19pm

Shit yeah !!!

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Mister McGrinch Saturday, 12 Nov 2022 at 1:22pm

Which wavepool is that?

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:01am

40 guys and 40gals.

Will there be a trials day at the Tub to see who makes the cut for a Q-ey in the Tub?

This gets more and more like an El-cheapo Carny spectacle- not a legitimate sport.

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frog Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:17am

More is not better. It just builds the boredom level.

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:23am

Totally agree.

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stunet Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:45am

Also agree, but the more I think about it the more I think the Woz has gone this way, not to garner eyeballs, but to solidify their 'pathways to the top' idea.

See the article above for what's happening to the QS in Hawaii - seriously, just two contests for Hawaiian surfers to progress towards the CT? - and the same is also happening in S America, S Africa, and Asia, which each have just three contests to decide their CS surfers. Sponsors just aren't interested in supporting these third-tier comps.

Now the Woz has made them cheaper to sponsor (less running time), and they know pool companies will jump at the marketing opportunity in a heated (and getting hotter) wavepool market, meaning they can shore up regional QS legs.

Reckon the next bit of news will be from American Wave Machines Shizunami wavepool and a comp or two in Brazil also. Hawaii and S Africa don't have pools, yet.

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fitzroy-21 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:46am

Bobby M predicted it all those years ago.

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ryder Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:53am

I get it - can you begin to fathom the amount of consultation that would go into an event held at Snapper Rocks for example. Dealing with local Council and State Government along with all the permits required to hold an event of an international scale.
However, it takes the soul of the sport.

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stunet Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 12:00pm

Yep, ocean comps have gotta be planned up to a year in advance. The one they've announced down in the Tulla Tub? A month, and they're not talking to multiple govt depts but just one private operator who's dead keen and compliant.

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burzum Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 1:06pm

Never had any soul to begin with. Pro surfing has been whoring itself to whoever will buy since the 70's. I would blame Rabbit , Shaun Thompson and Ian Cairns, but if wasn't for them it would have been someone else.

Pro surfing brings absolutely nothing of value to the average recreational surfer these days - there was a time when you could argue that pro-inspired board design filtered down to the masses, but that was arguably detrimental for a lot of people who ended up riding inappropriate wafers.

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Tomo Anarchy Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 11:55am

Great, more comps to ignore... Pro surfing events turning into pro skateboarding events; predictable terrain and yawn results.

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epictard Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 12:24pm

I don't know what pro skateboarding events you are watching, but in great contrast to the events in the SlaterDome, skate comps tend to allow for each competitior to draw a completely different line to the person before them. I think that this is an unfair comaprison that you have made ... unless you are referring to lots of the riders working a particular line multiple times, then yeah I can see the similarities.

The difference, and what makes to pool boring, is that all competitiors appear to be doing the same things as each other because there is only one possible line and the only variance is in how that line is ridden.

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Tomo Anarchy Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 4:48pm

I totally agree, but I often see skaters hitting the same line and going nuts on the same monster rail as that is where the scores are. Surfers doing the same 4 turns + rotor to finish in a pool just isn't appealing to me. Gone are the days of Chris Senn, Thomas, Koston or even the Goz when different lines were rewarded. I feel that tub surfing will get stale without the option or opportunity to do something truly unique in a heat. Perhaps surfers should look at switch options, like skating, to keep it fresh.... Anyway, just not thrilled about the prospect of more pools on tour. Give me 8-10ft sunset any day!

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epictard Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 5:06pm

100%

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Sprout Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 12:02pm

...not with a bang, but a whimper.

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Rusty Forest Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 7:45pm

That is a classic reference.

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freeride76 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 2:01pm

"Fans of surfing can check out all the action at URBNSURF with general admission entry tickets starting at only $10 to watch all the action in the waves, listen to live tunes and enjoy a range of other activities happening in the park."

Wonder how many will pay to show up and not be able to surf?

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peppa bluey Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 8:01pm

I was wondering how much unsponsored competitors will be willing to spend on practice sessions ahead of the official warm up and comp period

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frog Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 2:49pm

Must Make Money Out Of Surfing Somehow

MMMOOSS

But even the Moose is snoring:

&t=14s

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adam12 Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 3:13pm

I reckon the vloggers contribute more to the sport than the tour these days. I'd rather watch a Nathan Florence or Mason Ho video than a heat at cross shore Portugal or Brazil.

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dastasha Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 6:14pm

So true.
Last time I tuned in to a comp I saw two people bobbing in the water.
I tuned out after about 5 seconds

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mpeachy Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 4:30pm

Hate the wave pool event on the CT, but it makes a tonne of sense on the QS (decent waves and shorter window with less infrastructure)

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thermalben Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 4:54pm

I'm really interested to see how this goes.

The recent footy of Reef Heazlewood launching off the new air section looks unreal, and if they can bring the bleachers up against the wall, punters will be sitting with a tall frosty, just couple of metres from the action.

Here's a question: how will surfers respond/react when they're well within earshot of a rowdy Friday night crowd on the piss?

I reckon it'll be fascinating. Different, but certainly fun.

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memlasurf Saturday, 12 Nov 2022 at 9:35am

Lets hope they don't take a piss after all those frothies and looking at the ideal trough right in front of them!

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peppa bluey Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 6:39pm

Well now Melbourne really is the sporting capital of Australia. Take that Sydney!

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Rusty Forest Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 7:49pm

Always has been, given the infrastructure........

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peppa bluey Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 7:58pm

Agreed Rusty, and the close proximity of venues to each other and the cbd. Add in the Moomba birdman comp too ;)

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andy-mac Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 8:37pm

Rebel tour????
Want to have a go in a pool, watching a comp... Yeah nah....

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Coaster Thursday, 10 Nov 2022 at 9:28pm

Good news. They can hold their contests well away from the coast and leave it for us to enjoy.

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Bustard Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 6:17am

I've surfed the tub a few times on varying configurations, do you think for the comp they should put it on Random Mode and it throws up a variety of wave profiles rather than a KSWPL copy paste scenario

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icandig Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 6:39am

I was thinking the same. Or at least give them a shot at the same waves throughout a heat, but randomise.

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thermalben Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 6:48am

Yeah, I wonder if it can be randomised? I've surfed the tub a few times, and they've switched modes mid-way through a session (i.e. at about the fifteen minute mark) - but I don't know if it's possible to do from set to set. Or, from wave to wave (i.e. within a set).

I also wonder if by trimming down the number of waves per set (usually about a dozen?), that they can play with the power settings a little more? Seems as the surf gets bigger/stronger (i.e. in 'Beast' mode), the consequential currents slowly develop a surface wobble from about the sixth or seventh wave onward (which then sometimes corrects itself back to normal later in the set).

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icandig Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 7:04am

They could wait for the water to settle just to build tension. They could also play tension building or ramp up music just like at the basketball stadium. Oh the drama! Oh the suspense! Oh Oh OH the anticipation.....I'm drooling thinking about it,

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morg Saturday, 12 Nov 2022 at 12:38pm

Incorporating a bit of variety into the waves should mix things up a bit. With 7 seconds (or whatever) between rideable waves it will be interesting to see how many surfers are in each heat and how they structure wave allocation and heat duration to keep entertaining.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 3:00pm

Interesting to read these requests for Wavegarden Variations coinciding with "World" comp format.
Even more interesting is the fact that wavegarden only recently shared tech/comp format variation.
So! Are we in luck? Well, Kinda!

Long guarded Wave Garden secret intel is now frontline ammo in the The Great Wave Pool War.
Insightful crew ask all the right Questions & at the right point in time...Let's trawl the net!
Happy to share these half baked answers...
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First Up! Software or (Wave Menu / Playlists) near always read as 'Individual Wave Settings.'
Meaning a Group of Set Waves
Wavegarden quite often speak as if programming individual Waves...reader can decide! (More later!)
Only coz they never really drive this point home...eg: Reserved only for VIPs or Test Comps.
So if individual instant wave change exists & (Seemingly does!)...it seems the public will never know!
This is definitely not gonna be marketed outside of Pros / Tech bragging rights!

Stab / Urbnsurf Event Waves were all set to be programmed 'live' from the States.
Software lets operator to instantly "Select Individual Waves"
(or) "A Playlist of Waves" that match the needs of Ongoing Session. (Waves / Session?)

Yes! Vote in Ben's Comment Box Ballot > press yer Urbnsurf remote control...{ Time 2 Go Brazzo }
Think Dr No Kill Switch...Wow! Bummer! Sorry Surfer Dude...Honest! I was changing the Channel! Ok!

Important! Software is constantly evolving & new waves will constantly be added.
eg : Oz saw Reef Flying High > All Wavegarden Pros chorused the exact same high note as one!
https://stabmag.com/news/a-small-ish-line-of-code-a-giant-leap-for-waveg...
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Pool Size Variation + Less > More Modules
*Small Pool + Less Modules = More Wave Frequency increases current to distort waves = (More Wash).
The 3 different wave set variation / session tempers this current or Close one side to drain the beast .
Comps = Ripcurl Gromz Slosh bucket > Q 1,000

*Large Pool + More Modules = Less Wave frequency with longer rides & variation.
(Explanation!) Less current affords a quick precise Wave Type change (vs) Ongoing Whirling dervish.
Pro Ramp Park > Future Pro comps

Modules can be linked as long as necessary
Modules can be replaced in real time during wave train function
30% of modules can be lost & half decent waves can keep firing.

Theoretically changing modules mid wave could & should change approaching wave face.
Just demonstrating that by sabotaging a # Mod via an app override should alter mid wave ride.
This could go unseen to a Judge but present as a major deviation to Comp surfer...(Like vote rigging!)

Variations on a Theme > Straight up Answers by Wave Garden...(Can be read how ya like!)

This intro runs all variations as #1 Premium extended Wave Garden Hook Line Variation Promo...
* Wave Frequency, Shape, Size, Power, Speed & Length > changed in real time with touch of button!
Now adding Energy, as all above is being openly shared with customers & patrons as an open book!

* A la Carte Sessions ( Pro Bully park take over ) Seemingly individual Groomed Waves!
* Different Waves to pull from for each Session
* Pre program 5 different barrels that gradually increase in size, power & Speed.
* Can allow for "Pauses" for Surfers to return to Take Off Zone

Variation for Comp Waves
* Likely that Major Events like those found on WSL tour will be hosted in Major Capital Cities.
* Wavegardens are designed to cater for huge crowds.
* Software allows for waves to "Change in an Instant"
* Surfers can compete in different waves, to test diverse skill set + Entertaining for fans.
* "Waves on Demand" opens doors to new innovative Comp formats never thought possible in ocean.
* Different formats Tested > 2/4 person heats with variety of Turns/Barrels for competitors.
* Just the tip of iceberg & Fans can look forward to events being configured in many innovative ways.

Vic 2022 QS 1,000 Events
$20k Phillip Island Pro @ Bass Coast Shire 32m / 26 w= (3 days) > Free Entry (next day 1 min reels)
$20k Rip Curl Pro @ Urbnsurf / Hume Shire 40m / 40w = (1 day) > $10 entry (Live on WSL/Youtube)

Crew can see that Starky is pulling out all stops for his Live WSL VIP Pool Party.
We see Regional Shires get Zero Live Promo (vs) CBD Private Pool Party goes Live around the Globe?
So, we're seeing a Privatization of Shire Funding via the Wave Pools.
Either way the Shires (Locals) get no bang or Postcards for their buck!
https://surfingvic.com/urbnsurf-melbourne-set-to-host-first-ever-wsl-qua...

Wave Garden Links > now openly shared Wave Menu Variation updates.
Search Tips in Correct Typeface... 1. "Wavegarden" 2. Wave menu 3. Software
https://wavegarden.com/our-technology-is-writing-the-next-chapter-in-sur...
https://wavegarden.com/wavegarden-cove/
https://wavepoolmag.com/wavegarden-opens-up-about-wave-menu-new-settings/
https://blooloop.com/water-parks/news/wavegarden-wave-menu/

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Bustard Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 3:59pm

I reckon a "power Play" period where waves are scored up x a factor...or even better ...where judges are blind folded for a period of time and have to score the waves purely based on Turpel and that Nasally American's commentary ......

...or does that already happen

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ryder Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 9:28am

Bring on a rebel (dream) tour...

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stunet Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 9:45am

Reckon calling it a 'dream' tour might be apt cos a rebel surfing tour will never, ever happen.

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suchas Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 10:34am

They could have a combi comp of snowboard halfpipe/surfing in Switzerland- just gotta heat up one side of the tub- https://alaiabay.ch/webcam/

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Standingleft Friday, 11 Nov 2022 at 11:00pm

AMA reports another appalling increase in cases of self harm presenting amongst the surf judging community

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truebluebasher Saturday, 12 Nov 2022 at 1:58am

WSL rid all Summer interference of Jiggly G Strings & Le Nude Bathers (Gulp!) & Dogs Humping.
Now all are equally dead from the waist down! 100% zero Video Nasties on the replays!
Bye Bye endless Summer, La Chic Nudists & Cheeky Goldie Babes...ever shifting our eyes!

WSL don't own those bodies nor can they sell them...they're a blight on our equal rights! All say Aye!
WSL : "We decide which Pro Fleshpot & which pound of flesh at what premium price!

No more boring Cold Water lulls that sell nuthin' but dead rubber for 99% of the heat.
Wettie Company would shrill at seeing their best ever gear frozen over half way out at sea! [SOS]
Lump of lard just sits there like Hypno Toad.. Strider pokes him with the KASEBERGA spirit stick!

Cold Water Wave Pool Pros model the Sponsor's Wettie up close & with wave trained Ad Breaks.
Fully attired paying guests feint with a glimpse of Pro's only bare sexy shoulder blade in the park.
Pro's bum wiggles as he irons out the bugs...Sponsors drool, flogging Cold Water dance suits for all.
Only in the captive market Wave Pool can you read the [ feeding times ] for yer fav' exotic creature.
They're not being paid to surf...but to model up close & personal unsportsmanlike ensembles. Enjoy!
Party on Dudes!
https://tracksmag.com.au/could-a-swiss-alps-surf-competition-be-the-blue...

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Mister McGrinch Saturday, 12 Nov 2022 at 2:14pm

Hey bro can i have some LSD please?

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truebluebasher Sunday, 13 Nov 2022 at 12:47am

Sure thing...brewed up another batch!

'Live Heats' run the Urbnsurf Wave Cove Comp formats
https://www.liveheats.com/

2022 Urbnsurf Comp Calendar...
https://www.liveheats.com/urbnsurf/events

Urbnsurf run 4 first round heats of 9 > (36) surfers in 2 hrs
WSL run 12 first round heats of 3 > (36) surfers in 6 hrs

Olympic Wave Pool cuts 77% Comp time to argue their place as best value 2032 Qld Olympic sport.
Surfing's saving affords an extra sport in 2032 > SLSA / Baseball / Golf / Cricket / Netball or Demo!

Otherwise they're dead in the water...they are not an Official 2032 Olympic Sport & not on Venue map!

Com Games removed Gold Coast beach sand for Beach Volleyball. Yes! Shocked our City to the core!
Already a long Olympic precedent of transferring a pretend beach into a stadium...simply add surf!
See! It's already considered completely normal & successful to bring the beach to the City Crowds.

Cricket is vying for 2032 Olympics & culled 5 day tests > 1 day-night > 4hrs.
How would surfing buy immunity to sport industry time penalties.
If surfing can't match Cricket's short game come 2032...Howzat! You're out! (Simple as that!)
Sitting around on yer arse for a week ain't gonna cut it in 2032...those days are over.
Sponsor wants Action Cam on the go ...NOW! Not in 2/3/4/5 minutes or maybe later...see ya! Next!
Time is Money...(They will Cull Surfing's Lull!)

All wish for any other sane option...please do share any imaginary natural offset multi break beach.
Sure D'bah! But that is NSW ...strictly Taboo!

Otherwise! The Wave Pool Bully's Ready Mix revenge is rolling over our sandcastles, like it or not!
As said Com Games + WSL downgrade Gold Coast beaches & surf to garbage dump standard.
Huge kick in the guts! Wow! Luv you guys...please come again you fuckin' sleezy snobs!

SEQ 2032 will draw the line in the sand for WSL Olympic Wave Pool & No! We don't want that shit!
If we must cheer for 2032 Wave Pool Olympics...better that, than welcome another WSL CT event.

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truebluebasher Monday, 14 Nov 2022 at 5:00pm

Thanx for the Update Edit Stu...correct...no time at all.

Urbnsurf Comp is Officially WSL branded & compliant but it is not Officially WSL "CT " Certified.

10th Dec 2022 Urbnsurf WSL Rip Curl Pro QS 1,000 (First WSL Tour / Oz Wave Pool event)

Sponsored by Hume Council (Entry fee $10) 10am -6pm > see 80 surfers compete

https://www.facebook.com/events/2004935069695012?ref=newsfeed
https://urbnsurf.com/rip-curl-pro-urbnsurf/

Promoted points...
https://wavepoolmag.com/wsl-adds-wave-pools-to-the-official-qs-lqs-and-j...
*Strict Schedule (Without fear of uncooperative Surf)
*Alleviate wait periods & risk of cancellation
*Mitigate risk of uncertainty & unpredictability of ocean.
*Allow the possibility of clearly defined running schedule (Day/night)
*Fans can watch from pool sides + Live Music
*Each competitors get a fair turn on exact same wave setting.
*Different high quality waves guaranteed at push of a button.

Official Verification.
WSL Certified = CT Standard (Only Kelly's Pool)

Note there is also Wave Garden's WPSL Wave Park Surf League not with WSL (Yes! Confusing!)
https://wavepoolmag.com/wave-park-surf-league-2022-results/

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suchas Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 1:28pm

Brisbane comp?

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philosurphizing... Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 2:25pm

I wonder how many trucks full of gravel, all parked at the rear end of the ferry would be needed to create a 4ft kelvin wake.

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 15 Nov 2022 at 11:24pm

Qldurrz salute suchas...win the Holy Grail for sharing spot X.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 20 Nov 2022 at 2:03am

The first 2021 Alaia Cup got plenty of coverage...

4th-6th Nov 2022 Alaia Open Winter Cup (Wavegarden Cove)
https://alaiabay.ch/alaia-open-winter-cup/?utm_source=phplist877&utm_med...

Big Brand Sponsors > Toyota / Swiss Lotto / Quiksilver / Roxy / Tudor Watches / Swiss Bus Comp.

What about WSL? There is a testing of Waters from commercial sense with VIP / Comp Format!

27th Oct 2022 - WSL Euro Pro Promo as Wave Pool Comp Warmer

(Live Heats format) 80 competitors is said to be "Modelled on WSL Events?"
That seems to be the Total WSL connect for now!

All Heats run these said "WSL format" 4 man Rounds > 1 / 2 / 3 / QF / SF including Final
Men 46 > Women 20 > Boys 12 > Girls 4

Day 1 : Public Surf Sessions & Party (Each Day) > Promo Events > Warm Ups
Day 2 : (Rounds 1/2)
Day 3 : (Round 3 / QF / SF > All Finals)

Comp Photos of Panorama / Action / Crowd / Judges Tents / Prizes
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=529799415825434&set=pcb.52981413582...
https://www.flickr.com/photos/swisssurfing/albums
Seems to come alive more on Finals Night!

Surf Media were Ok to promote event as some novelty but mostly only Pool Media reported on Comp!
Swiss Surfing / Swiss Flow Tour / Surf Park central / Wavepool Mag + Live Heats & Media Company

So! No great Comp breakthru to the otherside apart from one suss Surf Promo? Huh!

Surf Media (Aside from these here swellnet comments!) There was this lone SA Surf Site.
https://www.wavescape.co.za/surf-reports/wavescape-ocean-watch.html
https://www.wavescape.co.za/surf-news/breaking-news/swiss-bank-account.html

Repackaged for SA - Cape St Francis News? (Coincidence, or first rate Secret Santa sales pitch!)
https://stfrancistoday.com/80-surfers-to-compete-in-the-alaia-open-winte...
https://stfrancistoday.com/photo-of-the-day-switzerland-wave-pool-at-ful...
https://stfrancistoday.com/alaia-open-winter-cup/

If any can link Swiss Alps to Cape Saint Francis > Go for it!

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truebluebasher Sunday, 20 Nov 2022 at 2:31am

2022 Alaia Bay Open Winter Cup Finals Day ( YouTube Live Stream ) 565 views
YouTube blocked the Hot link...( Google search link is running fine!)
Click [ Grand Finals Alaia Bay Open Winter Cup 2022 - YouTube ]
https://www.google.com/search?q=Alaia+bay+cup+2022&biw=1881&bih=577&tbm=...

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 22 Nov 2022 at 1:49pm

(Above) Alaia Bay Comp is said to be Modelled on WSL Events...( Does that ring true & how? )
This Comp Format comment gushes forth a revelation between Wave Pools & Ocean Events...

Sure! All crew know that the Ocean wins out on size and majesty & just about everything...(Really!)
However! Wave Pools boast much Shorter Lulls > 2x Faster Wave Trains + WSL Longest rides

#1 swellnet exclusive sample : WSL Comp / Competitor Judging ( 2022 Timetable )
Comp Break ... Lull ....Train .... Ride
Pipeline ........... 4m ..... 10s ..... 15s (Other "Less epic" WSL Comp breaks have shorter 5-10 sec rides)
J Bay ................. 5m ..... 15s ..... 35s
Bells ................. 7m ..... 10s ..... 40s (Note Superbank had longest WSL Rides & was dumped!)
Trestles ........... 8m ..... 14s ..... 30s ( Branded 2nd most boring Comp to The Ranch! )

Comp Pools
Ranch ............... 3m ..... NO ..... 1m ( *Shortest WSL lull > (No Multi ride sets) Longest WSL Comp rides )
Urbnsurf .........1:30 ..... 6s ...... 16s ( Shortest Comp Lull / Fastest Duel Train / Avg Comp ride )
Alaia Bay ...... 2:30 ...., 12s .... 16s ( *Increase Judge Lull / *Halve Train Time / *Keep Avg Comp ride

Ok! So How does Judging / Comp Timetable dictate which Pool Format fits WSL Accredited Comps?

*Noted Anomaly that The Ranch wears 'Slowest Comp' tag when it's the fastest WSL comp on tour.

1,000's over 1,000's of years lined river banks & headlands to view the Majesty of Waves not surfers!
Here on The Goldie...Peak Summer Crowds shadow largest most epic Local WSL Final.
Also be reminded that Olympic Surfing is the Cheapest ticket...less than a T shirt!

WSL are building 8,000 seat Stadium for 6x "WSL" sanctioned assorted Pool events/yr
https://radseason.com/event/surf-ranch-pro-lemoore-california/

See Timetable > WSL seem to be investing in less lag time by promoting Pond Life? (Sounds Tricky!)
Pond life can only mean everything but surfing...better get used to it

Alaia Bay stated they modelled Comp on WSL Events...(Now we have comparable Timetable)
*WSL Lull - toilet / drinks break 4-8 mins > A Bay Increased judges wee break from 1:30 to 2:30m
*WSL wave train = 10-15 secs > A Bay increased Dual Surfers Judging time from 6 > 12secs (wsl)

tbb shared above Alaia Bay Live webcast partly or mostly for this very reason...
Wave 1 (Lead wave is fine but not surfed > Trains the Judges attention from busy town to the lineup)
Wave 2 - Is both surfed & Judged
Wave 3 - Is off limits > Buys time for judge to hurriedly score Surfer 1 on Wave 2 (12 secs max!)
Wave 4 - Is both surfed & Judged but slowly over a set period allotted by 'Live Heats' (1984 Format ).
Wave 5 - Distorted Trail Wave Mops up the Slops > Lull is extended from 1:30m > 2:30m as tabled.

Wash Up!
Alaia Bay adopted WSL min wave train time Standard for Judging 2 surfers in same heat (wsl tick)
Alaia Bay afforded Judges a very short but doable 2:30m 'gotta go now'...Wee / drinks Break (Not wsl)
Alaia Bay offers up min size Waves (wsl > tiny tick)
Alaia Bay offers up consistent average length compliant rides (wsl tick)

Crew can see Wave Pools are ticking off WSL boxes for "Equal Comp Rights or demands!"
All but the most important basic compliance?

Crew can read that WSL Judges are only Human & have needs & require on demand 3m toilet break.
But why 3 mins...Coz that's what WSL Wave Machine decides...any arguments? Good! Thought not!
As bizarre as it seems ... even WSL Judges are not allowed to pee in the pool.

WSL Hodad Judges : "We demand our minimum 3 min WSL Beer'n'Wee Break!" or no Pool Party!

Turpel : "It's also Time for our Whoop Whoop Guy to shine! Go Strider! Go Strider!"

Pottz : It's also the minimum allotted time to grab a "Quick" drink from the bar...(Burp! ~ Not really!) Ha! Ha!

But the seed is planted & everyone had the same thought at once...#%@* Wave Pool bar Queues!

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Key : tbb is measuring Judge's Timetable..(Above / Here)
Lull is measured from end of Last Ride to next Take off on next set.(Quick break time!)
Simply deduct given ride time from Lull Time for the Machine Time tabled Lull > Ok!
Wave train is measured from take off to next take off! (Geared down to time with Ride Length!)
Ride is measured from take off to pull out! (Naturally times with 1 + 1 All clear Gap wave!)
As said! The gap Wave affords equal Ocean Safety time + 100% full / Equal Judging time to all surfers.

19th Nov Tejasurf WACO Pro/Am (Custom Waves)
https://wavepoolmag.com/tgsa-waco-surf-contest-2022/
Waco ..... Lull ...Train ... Ride
Park ....... 30s ..... 6s ..... 9s
Comp .... 50s .... 12s .... 12s = Judges can score each wave from start to finish
Wave1 (Bump) Wave2 (Bump) Wave3 ~ Buying Time for Judges! (3/6 surfers per set in each Heat)
Wave1 Small smooth Slab > Wave 2 Largest but Full > Wave 3 Buckles but holds length.
6xR > 6xL > Top 6 Final ( Scores best R + L rides) re: (Not best 2xL or 2xR)

tbb dug deep & scored this Arabic Live feed of The Left (Final?)...albeit a bit jumpy!
[21:40 -22:00 ] Zero spectators only Competitors & Officials? (Down to minus 2 degrees!)
Explains weird Arabic Blog : TGSA (No Live Feed ?) Live feed was cut (Froze?) as it was too cold!
https://ne-np.facebook.com/saltwtrrecon/videos/welcome-to-the-2022-tgsa-...
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Surf Lakes..Lull ....Train .... Ride
New ........... 90s ..... 6s ..... 12s ( New 5 wave sets )

Noting (5 wave sets) as used in recent Alaia Bay Wavegarden & here with AWM Comp Format.
Likely that Surf lakes will also skip each 2nd wave in Comp mode ( Allowing for Judging Time! )
So from a set wave perspective this then brings all players into line to host WSL Comps!

tbb thinks 5 wave sets were back chatter at recent Surf Parks conference as all ducks are lining up.
All big players knew this was the target for WSL cred...(#1 swellnet exclusive...shh!)

Summary...Wave Pool Comps are fast adopting similar WSL Ocean Comp Format (see above table!)
Wave Pools are slowing to Ocean Train & Ride Time for Man on Man / 3 man Heats in Grouped Pairs.

These Wave Pool Comps are starting to look very similar to suit WSL commercial format.

WSL standard Ocean Judging Criteria of ending one ride before next begins
Wave Garden / AWM Lull is extending to adopt Ad breaks & Judge's toilet breaks

It is interesting as most thought Ocean Surfers would need to speed up to race the Wave Train clock.
Who would've thought that Wave Machines would slow to flow with Mother Nature...(Go Huey! Yew!)
Judges need time to evaluate each ride fully & require Toilet / Ad breaks...neither can be rushed.

Seems that to speed up a Surfing Event you first need more judges in order to score more Waves!
Meaning any switch to Olympic 2x faster Wave Pool Event requires 2x Judges / Facilities.
So Olympics could run 1-2 days in a Surfing Arena but require 2x costly officials (Now we know!)

Alternative is to slow event by Comp Format "Runs"
Most likely the Wave Pool would gear down to 1 ride / Pause / Ads as with other Olympic Sports.
This would rule out a Wave Pool on Energy cost to run just 1 wave every 90 seconds! Clear! Next!

Summing up...Olympic Wave Pool Event would closer resemble WSL Ranch Solo Run Format.
Noting that Wave Pools are also playing with Ski Run Formats!
Can keep Competitors & Judges but alter the Format to suit the Olympic Time Tabled Ad Machine.

Mount Olympus Advertisers / Broadcasters would yank the Surf's Up chain to exploit the Sport!
This be why WSL is pushing their 6,000 seat Ranch Stadium in readiness for Olympic exploitation.
WSL Arena can acquire green credits for Olympic accreditation ahead of a wasteful ritzy Beach Arena.

Next Experimental Wave Pool Comp is on Next Weekend here in Oz. (Live Webcast)
(One Day Comp) Be interesting to see how the Comp Format complies with WSL Judges
On Paper it resembles a future 1 Day zippy Olympic Arena Format.

Sat 10th Dec Rip Curl Pro WSL QS 1,000 @ Urbnsurf
https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/rip-curl-pro-urbnsurf-wsl-qs1000-tickets...