First waves break at Wavegarden Cove, Bristol

Stu Nettle
Swellnet Dispatch

Just a week after URBNSURF in Melbourne filled their pool, the owners of Wavegarden in Bristol have cranked the engine in their Wavegarden tub, called The Wave.

As they're the same tech, we can assume these are similar, if not identical, waves to what we'll see at Tullamarine.

Curiously, the left and right aren't produced identically with one pass of the hull (or whatever the wave generating device is), but they're staggered.

Also, without surfers it's hard to put a gauge on size, though there's no debating the quality of the waves.

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the_b commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 11:15am

Looking at the guys in hi vis in the bg looks about 2ft

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peabo commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 12:10pm

Looks tiny. Hopefully they can push it a bit harder.

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Cowabunga commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 9:53pm

Is that the an diver legend peabo?

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peabo commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 1:10pm

nah, the r'n'b singer

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J.seas commented Sunday, 27 Oct 2019 at 11:06am

Way to small looks like a grom,s training pool .

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Island Bay commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 12:20pm

Looks like real waves, though. Would love to give it a go.

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shoredump commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 1:04pm

Looks like it’ll be fun to surf. A bit like tiny, but good quality Greenmount (0:16)
But there’s no denying that none have matched Slaters for wave quality

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Island Bay commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 1:50pm

Shoredump, I reckon this looks like a better wave than Slater's, albeit smaller. It's a proper wave, not something scraped up with a big underwater cheesecutter.

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 1:11pm

Hmmm wasn't really too interested in surfing that Tullamarine place, but this has kind of got me interested, even if it's only waist to shoulder high that looks like a proper wave, would be super fun.

The whole vibe is going to suck though looks so artificial and suburban and going to be heaps of pressure with a crowd watching and im sure a lot of too cool for school crew hanging about.

Will have to hit it up one school day six months after it opens and some hype has died down.

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Seymour Scagnetti commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 1:26pm

Smurf Garden.

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Bob Sacamano commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 1:32pm

Why cant anyone make a wave bigger than waist height?

Obviously the raw energy of the ocean is difficult to replicate on these small scales, and no doubt it's challenging to do in an efficient and cost effective manner.

These clips are just always so underwhelming and they seem to constantly overpromise and underdeliver. If I was a 4ft something grom id be foaming at the mouth and hitting up the folks for a trip to Mount Splashmore in the holidays.

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indo-dreaming commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 3:22pm

Id say it all comes down to money.

1. Bigger wave need a much bigger pool, = more money to build.

2 .Bigger wave would mean much more water moving around the pool, meaning more time for things to settle before next set, time= less waves means less money received from punter or more money per wave.

3. More powerful machine to make a bigger wave and most likely more pressure on machine meaning more risk of breakage.

4. More energy would be needed meaning higher cost to operate.

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NickT commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 5:00pm

@indo-dreaming All very good points!

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rooftop commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 1:48am

Also, pretty sure the energy required would increase exponentially. I mean that literally; to create a 6ft wave would require something like 4x more energy than a 3ft wave as it is not only twice as high but twice as thick horizontally. I don't think the third dimension - lateral width - would come in to play, but if it does then that increases the energy requirement by another factor of 2.

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Lanky Dean commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 4:50am

paging Gary G with comments like that.

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Johnyuleanderson commented Thursday, 24 Oct 2019 at 8:21pm

Yepoon got there on round 2

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bipola commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 2:15pm

it is a good foundation to start from, can only get bigger and better.

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velocityjohnno commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 2:37pm

Looks really good, well done! Would be an interesting side-trip during UK travels, pint in a local pub afterward.

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memlasurf commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:04pm

Or 50.

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stunet commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 2:51pm

Underwhelming? Really...?

I thought it was good. FWIW, the following vid also dropped last night, with Stu Kennedy and co surfing the Wavegarden test centre in Spain. I imagine both the Bristol and Tullamarine tubs will be equally as big on takeoff, but longer down the line.

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 6 Nov 2019 at 5:47pm

Stu's clip + Promo together answer how big The Wave can climb.
Spain's vidz mostly focus on the pit but do occasionally pan towards the wall. View Stu's clip from [00:10 -00:30] See the trim is ballooning above skirting height. Off Key: Also notice rodeo clowns slavishly speed bump a ramp for Star Pro to smack.(Vomit!)

Pause:
Now to cue The Wave Vid (Top of screen) @ [00:10 - 00:15 + 00:50] Notice the wave pressure is very lazy compared to Pro's big night out party. Olympic Teams also run waves free of Spain's side curtain to gain height off the wall for slushie ramps. We all now see The Bristol Wave can gauge another 1-2ft in height for Pros' & Olympians...(But!)

Greenfield Wave Pool heights are governed by spectator height of perimeter wall. The Ranch spectators evacuate as approaching wave swashes over side walls. Keen observers [00:10] See Bristol promo wave set is tracking 1ft below fresh trail lines.

Agreed! Lets all rewind the vid for those rogue Bristol sets that washed over the wall. In theory the machine house can go 2ft higher but perimeter wall limits 6-12 inches max. Note the taught Curtain & shallow pool is set to shape the ornate display barrels. Default setting is likely a less taught curtain with an inch or two higher in pool as with wave height but less barrel shape.

*Added later: See photo / vid of Spain adding on shoddy boards to raise wall height. It verifies the Wave machine can ramp up height but Commercial Pools restrict wall thus wave height for Patrols.
https://wavegarden.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/wavegarden-cove-change...
Check sign on wall & where boards finish (Pro shot add ons!)
https://wavegarden.com/the-wavegarden-cove-will-revolutionize-the-sport-...
Waco / Spain can cheaply cut less soil deeper into soft bank leaving elevated viewing shoulder. Oz/Bristol Pools can only afford to cut shallow dishes into massive paddocks!

Larger commercial wave heights would require a hillside or Quarry. Yes! Plans for a few are in place. Not that simple as Quarries often block sun or preferred winds & restrict commercial site potential & design options resulting in blowout of build costs & backers.

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freerider. commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:08pm

Looks like a freshwater abomination, no thank you, I wouldn't waste my money on it, but the owner will thank you. "And the man in the suit has just bought a new car from the profit he's made on your dreams". Hahaha! I think I'll stay with real Ocean.

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ojackojacko commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:27pm
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WendyM commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 8:16am

Your right stunet.
Seriously you will be over it once you catch a few and then start thinking how about much you paid for it.

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P'tai commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 3:09pm

And it would appear more than one wave at a time, "multiple wave sets" much more attractive!!

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Kham commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 3:48pm

Quality is good. height and power unknown. If it is bigger than Demo in Spain, I want some, but I am really hoping that the masses will flock there.

More footage please.

Kham

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 4:31pm

Thanks swellnet & Stu!
Looks too good to be true & that's because it is!
[ No bodybasherz ] Surf product assisted [L] Wave Pool only.
Toxic Waste Dump is what it is...just stirring up the chem' cocktail.

Basherz can undermine & unwind yer kiddies pool wave in a flash.
Cry! Cry! [ No manhandling our waves you Big Bully Basherz ]

tbb is tearing up The Wave's environmental surfing tag. (More eco surf imposters)

[IMPORTANT] The Wave Bristol is not the same as URBNSURF Melbourne.
https://urbnsurf.com/video/lagoon-logistics/

The Bristol Wave sets break as one open face down the centre of each line-up.
The Waves drag upon themselves quickly fading once passing Wave Machine head.

URBNSURF Roary splits the set waves into two faces towards each wall.
At this point the lead waveface catapults by losing the mid/tail wave caboose.
Head weight wave train races to milk the inside wall to bounce up height.
After the head release the trail wave recollects to power-up the outer wall rebound.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQTipj_wUP89-ao3N...

Without side walls assist, Bristol wave drags upon itself & fades fast as you can see.
All crew know the side walls can power up the wave train more each set wave.
Waco/Surf lakes even here shows lame 1st wave with 2nd better & 3rd is the Slab.
Waco surfers & Surf Lakes reckon the more it puts out the more bang for yer buck.

Only time will tell, but that's the main difference in the two wavegarden line-ups.
Melbourne Wavegarden face splits into two longer hollow shape waves of size.

Tip: Dozens of wavegardens all look identical, however each have a signature layout.
tbb swears most layouts are unique & it's rare to find two exact same wavegardens.
It seems certain a Wavegarden world circuit in different exotic breaks is on the cards.
Resident X Pro vs Pool Hotties might just heat things up in the local Arena.
Step right up Groms! Who's man enough to tear strips off washed up WSL Champ.

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savanova commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 4:15pm

I'd stick one in my backyard

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hamishbro commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 4:26pm

These waves are very thin in the lip with not much weight behind them, which means they’ll be a bit alien for Victorian surfers, used to surfing heavier powerful if fatter waves. It will be a novelty to drop through the lip into the tube instead of being thrown forward. But nothing I have seen in these play pools replicates anything over a 10 or 11 second period though, which is the where the real pleasure of surfing is found. I think these robotic baby tubes will get tedious but they may breed a whole new surfing population who will be really fast at certain turns but won’t know how to respond spontaneously to a dynamic situation. Good for whippy turns though.

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Laurie McGinness commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 4:48pm

The end of an interesting culture. Now, as they have always wanted, surfing is just another commodity for the rich to consume.

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Sam Mozaffari commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 6:04pm

You score on the way up to Coffs?

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Laurie McGinness commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 8:33am

The morning we saw you was the best we had. Scored on the way back on the Central Coast. Home now!

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freerider. commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:12pm

Thank you. Well said. Looks like a freshwater abomination, no thank you, I wouldn't waste my money on it, but the owner will thank you. "And the man in the suit has just bought a new car from the profit he's made on your dreams". Hahaha! I think I'll stay with real Ocean.

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freerider. commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:14pm

Thank you. Well said. Looks like a freshwater abomination, no thank you, I wouldn't waste my money on it, but the owner will thank those who do. "And the man in the suit has just bought a new car from the profit he's made on your dreams". Hahaha! I think I'll stay with the real Ocean also.........

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zawl commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 8:47pm

Yeah this is all good seeing pros surfing here these guys can rip the shit out of a ripple in a puddle. Question is how will the bog standard surfer i.e me find the speed/pace/size of the wave? Aww I just fucked that one can I get another thanks

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billie commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 10:38pm

I find it noisy and depressing. I understand people like this stuff but it isn't for me.

Billie

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Filthyboy commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 11:21pm

Does it spit or swallow??

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SurferSam commented Saturday, 19 Oct 2019 at 11:37pm

Engineering wise i think it’s far better than slaters. Reason being is it’s modular and can be as long as you want (just add more modules) and can create different wave types similar to Waco. Also the mechanism is not in the water, and easy to access and maintain. It’s very hard to gauge wave height from that vid though. Hoping it’s bigger than it looks.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:17am

Like Clockwork downunder Wave Pool Guru Peter Townend backdoors "The Wave"
Surfer X soars thru space & time to once again cut the ribbon before the Mayor!
(tbb is a fan of dead set hodad legend!) Our most befitting Timelord without doubt.
Really & Truly, who else can mess with yer mind on this scale. (Downright Diabolical)

Another big salute to Wavepoolmag for sharing catch of the day
https://wavepoolmag.com/1984-surf-trip-lands-fear-and-loathing-crew-in-o...

Of course back in the old days 'The Wave' pushed out slightly bigger waves!

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Lanky Dean commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 5:05am

~ i wrote a song , i didn't take to long
those fabled waves , made from train , conveyor belt , hose and rain
i was amazing at first, till griffin came in and laid the cable
a rare form of cungy grew from beneath.

no one dared enter the pool for a while , not because of floater.
trains rolled past, no commuters on board
just a man with a long board no leash, cleaned the crowd. sweeping them all in
the man was quite proud, a new form of surfing was born
last person left in the water was the name of the game.
everyone else thought it was lame.

lanky poems

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Sheep go to heaven commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 6:38am

So who's gonna be the first to surf it ?
The clip of Kellys first wave at his pool is iconic
place your bets gentlemen ........

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icandig commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 1:15pm
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Blowin commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 8:33am

The equivalent of 2ft East coast Oz .......boring after a day .

Throw in the confined space , the industrial element, the Western Sydney public pool vibe and the fact that you’re “living under the jackbooted foot of the lifeguard state* “ whilst shelling cash hand over fist = Get fucked.

Groms will lose their shit over it though.

* Great quote by Bear from Big Wednesday.

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memlasurf commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:18pm

Yes remember that one. Great movie and you should see Gary Busey now.

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freerider. commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:23pm

Will they? Maybe. But how sad, going to sleep dreaming about a 'wave tank' instead going to sleep wondering what the Ocean and all of her charms might give up the next day. Innocence and adventure lost I think in one fell swoop............the clones are coming...and where's junior gonna get the bucks each week to pay for his new 'habit'? The biggest and saddest aspect of this--junior may never appreciate the real Ocean again..........

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H2O commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 9:09am

These things take away from the mental aspect of surfing - the multiple calculations and decisions that need to be made from waking up and checking which way the wind is blowing to end of ride - figuring out where to go, which board, tide ,which peak, best route out, timing of sets, where to sit, next to who, and that's just before take off.
Example was French comp - tricky lineup needing to be read expertly which the local expert did .

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frog commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 9:36am

Sucks to be you eh Kelly.. One lonely wave every three minutes and a bloody great train roaring away in front of you as you surf.

Prefer this technology. Looks like a surf spot going off. A decade or two from now there will be some on a massive scale which will blow out minds.

Frogg

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Spuddups commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:46pm

Not to mention that at Kelly’s wave there’s a guy following along on a JetSki yelling at you.

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DaWaveslave commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 9:35am

sick

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djizzah commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:35pm

they look like waves only smaller

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peterb commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 12:54pm

That looks like it might fit right nice in the middle of an auditorium .. you reckon?

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ron commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 1:09pm

Really need the full size version with a person on it but those look so soft that unless you are pro level or 30 kg kid it will be pretty hard to surf properly.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 1:45pm

PETS ...People for the Ethical Treatment of Surfers.
*List of Demands.
1) End WSR live grom trafficking for evil WSL wave pool trade.
2) Ban the keeping of Surfers as wave pool pets
3) Free Surfers that are cruelly shackled by ankle chains to toxic pool toys
4) No more performing pro circus tricks for surf industry handouts.
5) No more Dr Moreau surf product testing on dopey Surfers
6) Closely examine the G-string topless hotties captive breeding program
7) The Koncrete Krab must cease selling dead Krabby Patties to Weet Bix groms
8) End exorbitant billing of incarcerated Wave Pool surfers
* Return Cheap Tuesdays (That's more of a request than a demand)

Wave Pool addicts 3 step recovery program
Stage 1) Wave Pool junkies & waves will drain to ramp up fresh water creek banks
Stage 2) WSR's must slowly re-stoke the sea monkeys back into their barrels
Stage 3) Thanx to PET Surfers are again free to surf their pet dolphins in the WSR

Failing to free pet wave pool surfers.
PETS will not hesitate to superglue all backdoors & speed bump the WSR skidpan.

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Jamyardy commented Sunday, 20 Oct 2019 at 9:58pm

I heard they had an open day for interested parties at the Yeppoon wave pool this weekend, wonder if they have cranked that one up a notch or two yet ?

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Jono commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 7:17am

 

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garyg1412 commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:03am

Must be hard for him to duck dive being a swan and all!!!
Gotta love the wave choice though - 3rd wave - nah - the one behind looks better.

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Jono commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:07am

Nails the late drop too

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stunet commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:11am

Good on the swan and all, but those waves look fun as all get out: bit of draw off the bottom, few crumbling sections to hit.

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memlasurf commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:20pm

You might need to bring one of your floatier assyms Stu.

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Westofthelake commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:23am

Classic.

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gray commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 12:40pm

Classic footage, nice gut-slide...but unfortunately this gives a good indication of size: slightly over-head if you're a Swan (Goose), but otherwise pretty lame.

It'll need to be a LOT bigger than this to get me paying $$$ to surf. Otherwise I'd probably only consider a free bodysurf, but that's about it.

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 10:38pm

Partially Wild! Jono, great captions from yourself & crew...Luv it!
Best laid plans of Geese & Watermen.

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velocityjohnno commented Wednesday, 23 Oct 2019 at 4:33pm

That was great! The little feet waddling as he gets lip-launched. He surfed the wave really well, too.

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TimmyJ commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 9:27am

It's looking rad. If you check out the cover frame from the Bristol video here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/nonYEJMzTXFU4CNk6

Find the guy back right in yellow high vis on the wall (say we can see approx. half of him), well it has me thinking the size is going to be mighty mighty fun.

Not the ocean but that doesn't mean it's not going to be awesome.
Exciting times

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Bungan33 commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 10:20am

Its not the size - its the energy. You can almost sense the energy (or lack thereof) from the manner in which the lip falls and the speed of the wave. A friend surfed Kellys pool and said it was great fun and a surreal experience - but that appears to have more energy and push. Watching that swan surf the Bristol wave...mmmm....

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Bungan33 commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 9:37am

Its a puzzling social/economic/human's folly/connection to nature equation I reckon....First our attempt to replicate a perfect little version of nature speaks to our desire to be gods (when do we stop?), then there is the reality that most of us will never go there repeatedly to actually surf (its a novelty and novelties are just that...a novelty that will fade), then only the rich get to go...then the wave, in all honestly and hate to be a hater...most would be bored of it after one session - then there is the disconnection to nature in a medium which is MEANT to be about connection to nature. Call me old fashioned but there is something overcooked about it all. Like a bunch of sub prime mortgages all sold off to some willing fool in another format. But then if a whole generation of groms learns in a pool....well that means they'll shit themselves at the sight of solid overhead waves, rips, moving water, close outs, wide bombs & generally waves that don't break exactly where they want them to. All equalling less crowds....

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andoman commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:22am

Nah - are you bored of a skate park after one go?
There's always more tricks / manoeuvres to learn / perfect.

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Bungan33 commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 12:44pm

Yea - that's an interesting point and good analogy. However beauty of a skatepark is that you take the "practice" mentality into it -meaning you can try and fall a thousand times for free and get the rush of perfecting skills. At $100 (??) a pop...buggered if I am going to try and work on my air reverses.....matter of fact I am not even sure what I WOULD try. I have this occasional weakness when I take off on a perfect wave where I am SO frothing with anticipation about the first move that I get too casual and come unstuck...could you imagine the head game where each wave costs $100 and the wait time is 30 minutes for the next one?

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SurferSam commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 10:26am

Agree mate the groms who only surf a pool will have 0 clue in a real open ocean wave. But I don’t think wave garden is for the rich - heard the Bristol one charging around 40 pounds an hour? What’s that in Oz maybe 75 bucks? I’d easily pay that for a mid week surf after work when I got no time to find real surf. Looks like there will be heaps of waves based on the vid too so not so much pressure if you blow a take off or whatever. At slaters I’d be so nervous that blowing a wave will be like 1 k down the toilet , and then even if you make it you get shouted at by jet ski dude for the whole wave. No thanks.

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regano commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 11:08am

While these waves will provide safe entertainment for the masses. I think experienced surfers will get bored and manufacturers will very quickly look at scaling up the operation (if they aren't already). The holy grail will be large barrelling waves and solid A frame wedges that will get the adrenaline pumping however from the 'theme park' operators perspective solid waves will increase the risk factors to a point that they may shy away from it....It will be interesting top see where it goes.

regano

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TobiasK commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 12:04pm

Any thoughts about it being freshwater?
I remember seeing a vid when Julian Wilson et al surfed ocean dome in Japan about a decade ago, and I think the comments were along the lines that fresh water is much softer, which needs to be taken into account when burying the rail etc.

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 6 Nov 2019 at 7:54pm

TobiasK your hunch is right! 25ML of Town Water costing $53,725 AUD to fill the Pool. Notice in every shot the pool water (His Money) is bucketing over the sides. He looks set to loose $10,000 of water before opening day.
Surfer owner wants to rev it up but the low wall height is regulated for municipal Lifeguard Patrol (Emergency visual / access).Basically you need to dig deeper for larger waves (Really expensive). Raising the wall height is a last resort & not an option. This is all he is permitted by law & I reckon it really bugs him.
This bloke changed designs about 5 times or more so it stands to reason he was sold a pup. He could raise 1ft of rogue dank decking to then raise an extra 1ft perimeter wall height.
Spain wavegarden who sold him the pool adds shoddy timber boards.
This allows the ramping up of extra wave height for Hero Pro Shoots.
https://wavegarden.com/the-wavegarden-cove-will-revolutionize-the-sport-...

This in turn would ramps up Bristol Wave height an extra 1ft. His wave curtain & unit could handle another 1ft easy but I very much doubt his wallet is as big as his dream wave.

Happy to bash The Wave but tbb's gotta first pay for a boatload of useless Pool Toys - wettie + Surfboard hire & leash + Hoodie + boots + Hand Board & leash + Flippers...tbb only wishes to give The Wave a bash not mine the planet.
Unleashed Pet Bodybasherz will be harpooned then netted & restrained down the beginners end.
[Pet Porpoise Wavepool Rules Apply]
The Wave should exploit bodysurfers with half price sessions to detox the wavepool whilst clearing their name!

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freerider. commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 6:47pm

But how sad for the grommets now, going to sleep dreaming about a 'wave tank' instead of going to sleep dreaming about what the Ocean and all of her charms might give up the next day. Innocence and adventure lost I think in one fell swoop............the clones are coming...and where's junior gonna get the bucks each week to pay for his new 'habit'?
The biggest and saddest aspect of this--junior may never appreciate the real Ocean again.......the love of the Ocean shot down overnight..........I think the long term effects of this on the overall gromments (the next generation) psyche is gonna suffer, innocence and adventure lost. Time will tell..........hahaha...... I'm sticking with the real thing..... she's been a good and faithful friend............

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shoredump commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 9:10am

Which grom is that?
The groms or the other 99% of surfers won’t be able to afford it on a regular basis, and why would they want to when the ocean is so beautiful. I reckon there’s no need to worry with this. We all love the ocean for the same reason, the groms, the dog walkers, the swimmers, the kite surfers, the once a year warriors from western Sydney, and yeah me and you.
This won’t replace the ocean, but maybe it will replace the pub as a guaranteed fun place to catch up with friends . It’s just going to be a side salad to the rump steak. Good shit I say. I had to book 6 weeks in advance last year at Waco but a quick look today tells me it’s only booked a week out now.
I do concede it will increase numbers by a small percentage, and in surf zones like what is happening on the Sunshine Coast, by quite a bit. I can see group after group getting in a session in the ocean on their little trips there.
How many of the thousands that have surfed the new age pools have you heard say they didn’t have a great time.
Exactly.

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Lottolonglong commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 10:23am

I agree SD, FR sounding negative!!!

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freerider. commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 4:14pm

Well, I haven't heard of anybody who surfed them singing their praises either. Exactly. Ok, and why would groms or others want to keep coming back? Well, like drugs, you get a taste of some temporary, artificial happiness and you want more. Then you realize your kind of subconsciously hooked. You kind of forget who you once we're, you forget your first love..

Who knows, its way too early to tell how this will play out on the collective or individual psyche, but I still think it will mess with young kids heads who are still developing and don't have a solid Ocean background to fall back on, dreaming about these mutant waves and how surfing has suddenly kinda become very unequal with those who can afford it surfing more than you. We will now have the haves and the have nots--those who can afford it-(the tanks)-and those that can't..........time will tell.

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SurferSam commented Monday, 21 Oct 2019 at 7:44pm

Maybe if your a grom in Oz. But what if your a grom somewhere that doesn’t get waves ?

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freerider. commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 4:33pm

Well, unless you have a trust fund or rich parents, not many groms can afford $100.00 every weekend for a short 2 hour surf. When your a grom you want to surf like 24\7. It might be more of a 'turn off'-- having to pay pay pay. Might sour you on the whole set up. And for me at least, it was the whole package, the wildness of the Ocean, the sense of adventure, the salt air, the blue horizon, the freedom I felt in the Ocean--you can't recreate those things...I really don't think I would have got into pool surfing if I had to pay to learn in a tank in fresh water....

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Sprout commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 8:26am
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ojackojacko commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 8:47am

2-3ft at takeoff - looks like the energy fades pretty quickly

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Sprout commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 3:05pm

Agree. Half the size half way down the pool.

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johpg commented Wednesday, 23 Oct 2019 at 6:00pm

If you saw that at your local beach would you go out?

Johnston

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ShaneAbel commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 6:14pm

Good luck to the operation always great to see someone having a go but as usual the world is full of knocker who have never made any contribution in there entire lives but the world is full of such people
The wave is about waist high the issue will be size and backwash but would still be fun for the begineer to inertemediate surfer who make up 80% of the surfing community we aren’t all snapperrocks shipstern bluff surfers

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Bungan33 commented Tuesday, 22 Oct 2019 at 8:52pm

I don't know Shaneabel - knockers or people being pretty blunt about the reality of what is being achieved? There is a line between just cutting something down for the sake of it (the standard internet hater) and then maybe pointing out over reach or folly or weakness in the system. Equating that with haters who have "never made a contribution in their lives" is a bit steep. If the Slaters and business people of the world want to pour their money into this - then that is their choice - but we all dont have to agree with it. Personally I think it is a very expensive, somewhat elitist and pretty obscure use of resources - to create what...? Something you can get for free in a more beautiful and soul nourishing environment. All that energy being burnt up to create a 10 second wave that turns to mush after a few turns and a cover up....were just a funny animals us humans I reckon.

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Goofy4 commented Wednesday, 23 Oct 2019 at 4:52pm

Totally agree with Bungan's take on this post - there are some really well informed critiques on the footage of the wave...that some are not glowing endorsements certainly does not deem the people with those views having "never made any contribution in their entire lives" (which is a ludicrous and impossible to substantiate statement unless you personally know each of the people who have posted in this thread, which I'm pretty sure you don't)...not sure what your problem is with people having an opinion and why you have to make personal attacks rather than present your own view with accompanying, verifiable proof...very strange and reeks of a rather large chip on the shoulder.....

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 23 Oct 2019 at 12:13am

{Kook christens Bristol's dregs for the skegz}
[ White Swan wins Bristol wave pool comp ]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaxMd2CFJOI

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Jono commented Wednesday, 23 Oct 2019 at 4:07pm

Some more footage, very glassy

 

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peabo commented Thursday, 24 Oct 2019 at 9:44pm

Melbourne version missing a viewing platform so far. Hope they build one.

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stunet commented Thursday, 24 Oct 2019 at 5:37pm

...and here it is being ridden:

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freeride76 commented Thursday, 24 Oct 2019 at 8:26pm

looks like they pulled it Stu.

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TimmyJ commented Friday, 25 Oct 2019 at 7:48am

& Urbsurf about to launch. It looks amazing from the perspective of what I get to normally surf. Not everyone loves the idea of wavepools but as a Melbourne surfer its damn exciting to have this being built in the backyard. Looks like alot of barrel time

& the email:
https://mailchi.mp/urbnsurf/please-do-not-share?e=887a735cb7

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gasman commented Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 7:20am

That utter rag the Bristol Post has some footage of waves being ridden now. Have to say it looks a little disappointing but I'll reserve judgement until I get back to surf it sometime I guess. No doubt it will be fun, but having ridden their first incarnation at Snowdonia this really doesn't look like the great step forward I'd hoped the cove might be. Should reserve judgement until I've had a crack at it in fairness though. Next trip back will be surf, cider and watching the gas. Gert lush.

https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/whats-on/whats-on-news/the-wave-location-e...

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gasman commented Saturday, 26 Oct 2019 at 2:12pm

Although seemingly when the big boys get involved it looks a fair bit more rippable. Same as at the beach I suppose...

European Surfers Test the World's First Public Wavegarden Cove, The Wave in Bristol, England from wavegarden on Vimeo.

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Spuddups commented Sunday, 27 Oct 2019 at 6:29am

Well overhead for the groms aye. Looks fun.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 27 Oct 2019 at 1:11am

Big thanx for the clipz gasman, keep an eye on these drone vidz for line-up counts.
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/uk-news/uks-first-ever-inland-surf...
The Wave Bristol (Max-40 each side or 80 total) (URBNSURF is 84 Total)

Pre open Invite lineups are averaging out at 20 on the right & 15 on the left.
L / R Pool line-up breakdown stats are all are 'expert' sessions, no intermediate?
Right Peak line-up 15 (No intermediate crew- only 'expert' kick outs) + 5 learners
Left Peak line-up 10 (No intermediate crew- only 'expert' kick outs) + 5 learners

Consider no extra learners without employing double staff per week ! (Most unlikely)
Learners only pay 27.5p/hr vs Adults 40p/hr (Your the boss- makes an easy choice!)

Note: "Intermediate"...(It's an online promo to lure in Hodads & Kooks to couch surf!)
Same price,so all head to the Peaks -balancing 25 on Right + 20 on Left.(approx)
Total 40 Surfers on right peak + 30 on Left Peak + 5 [L] Right + 5 [L] Left

Overview of pool line-up.
Left side banks back to the Wave Machine Head with Right queuing well past pier.
Pool clears 1 surfer every 8 secs L & R for a 20 second Pool length ride.
Sportsbet backs aerial specialists to pull out pre 8 seconds to lick the cream bowl.
tbb laughed at The Wave's Hodad counting 12 as a rough deal on the head...

Full lineup!
Aerial prankster grom cuts in every 5 mins & cops heaps for his 12 waves / hr
Hodad waits his turn every 6 mins shooting his mouth off for 10 waves / hr
Taxi rank queue sees Pro sharks in their element, bullying kooks off scary pits...(Mine!)
First Behind the Rock wavepool lineup ...Smells like balter brewing...cheers mate!

Super creepy that opposite side of Roary is a lost world mirror line-up. (So Freaky!)
If Goofs Hooted for Huey would Naturals Holler for Roary? Strange days are these!

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fitzroy-21 commented Sunday, 27 Oct 2019 at 10:11am

Who needs the sea now? Grab a board and get involved.

https://www.facebook.com/uniladmag/videos/773234616446721/?t=1

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 4 Nov 2019 at 3:50pm

WSL #1 Olympic Pool Boy Kanoa Igarashi's Red Bulls zero in on The Wave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK7q1clEebE
Kamikaze edit
https://www.facebook.com/RedBullSurfing/videos/541003890010573/

Nick Hounsfield
The Wave (Founder)
Wave Productions (director)
Surfing England (director) - UK Boss for Tokyo Olympics
English Surfing Federation (Director)
Boardsports+Kiteboarding
Bristol Media...

Olympics.
Oct 2015 Tokyo Olympics Sayonara Mr Wavepool
June 2019 Paris Olympics Le poo poo your stinky Wave Pool

UK Govt : Not one Pound of Handouts to be wasted on loser Wave Pools

Nick's Go fund my Olympians (12,850 GBP) affords lane ropes for Nick's Wave Pool
https://www.crowdfunder.co.uk/british-surfing-team

Dec- Govt Handout 1.92m GBP
Nick's British Surfing Business Plan 2019-2021 (For the UK Govt Handout)

3. The Opportunities + Commercial Partners & Sponsorship
Develop blended natural / Wave pool program for world stage (With Olympic money!)
British Surfing intend to develop commercial wave facility foundations.
https://britishsurfingteam.com/resources/British-Surfing-Buisiness-Plan.pdf

Best if UK Surf Boss of everything Nick Hounsfield speaks for himself :
"The Wave is already in UK Olympic Plans, there's a conflict of interest there!"
https://magicseaweed.com/news/interview-how-englands-first-wave-pool-was...

Andrew Stark has met his match...nothing slow about Olympic Wave Pool Squads.
'Hands up who's gonna rort Govt Handout!' Govt coach block ticks whole Clipboard!

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truebluebasher commented Monday, 11 Nov 2019 at 2:08pm

1) [Pagans + (3:20) Q&A is really honest ] Details actual line-up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIuwL4C1Au0
50 surfers per 50 wave sets (1st surfer-scores an extra wave) [Promo 40 max!]
Wave slowly dials as all get all gain experience
Wave never gets as heavy as an Ocean Wave of same size.
No Barrel section in real time...(Possibly over ramp for Pros as in Spain)
There is also a lower beach setting (Air Ramp coming in the future)
Each surfer gets 2 turns at a wave.
Average one wave per 6 mins
Body works harder on weaker waves (Red Bull vid-Constant flow kept them warm!)
All surfers in all vidz say that 1hour wears them out
Don't over pump the wave ... surf to suit!
Backhand gives more Turns.
All under 18 must wear helmets!

The Pov Vid (Left then Right)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y98emK6uYLo

See red bull team vid (Above)