New pipe to pump contaminated water offshore from Sunshine Coast Airport

Stu Nettle
Swellnet Dispatch

In 2016 work began on Sunshine Coast Airport upgrading it to international capacity. The project was expected to be finished in 2020, however that now appears unlikely due to complications with groundwater contamination.

Last November, Sunshine Coast Council was made aware of high levels of PFAS, a carcinogen commonly found in fire-fighting foam, on the Marcoola site. The discovery led to a temporary shutdown of the project.

PFAS - real name perfluourooctanoic acid - and its sister compound PFOS are used in fire-fighting foam. Their ability to repel both oil and water make them ideal agents to fight chemical fires, and for almost fifty years they've been used by fire fighters, including airport safety crew.

Since 1968 it's been suspected that PFAS is carcinogenic. A fact confirmed in 1970 by 3M, the makers of PFAS, who phased it out three years later. However, PFAS and PFOS products were still made in China and used by airport safety crews here in Australia. During weekly safety drills, PFAS-laden foam has been allowed to soak into surrounding groundwater afterwards. 

PFAS has since been blamed for a cancer cluster at Williamtown, near Newcastle, with 24 people being diagnosed from just one street. It's also been suspected in a raft of other cases occurring around airports.

Sunshine Coast Airport opened in 1961 and, as with other airports around Australia, authorities have recently found nearby groundwaters tainted with PFAS. Sunshine Coast Council has isolated the water and since May they've been working with Queensland's Department of Environment and Science on solutions to dispose of the ponded water, this week deciding to pump it into the ocean.

“The release of ponded water from the site direct to the ocean is the optimum solution," explained Deputy Mayor Tim Dwyer in a press release, "as it ensures the stored waters are released at a much greater rate, whilst minimising any potential impacts."

“Surface water and any extracted groundwater will be tested by a qualified and experienced company, and, if required, treated in an onsite water treatment plant to ensure it is below the PFAS National Environmental Management Plan (NEMP) levels, prior to its release."

Location of the proposed Pipeline with position of outlet drawn to scale

The council water will build a $2.5 million underground pipeline which will extend under the dunes and Mudjimba beach, and then snake along the seafloor at a depth of 12 to 14 metres, reaching 400 metres out to sea.

There are 125 megalitres of water to be disposed of with council expecting to pump 8 megalitres a day. With no further deluges it should take 20 days to remove the ponded water.

PFAS is virtually indestructible in the environment, however Cr Dwyer says the "contaminant concentrations of the water at the release point will be almost 200 times below the allowable level."

The pipe will be installed by early October and be operating in mid-October.

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[email protected] commented Wednesday, 28 Aug 2019 at 9:50pm

Sweet as, shouldn't be a problem then. Go humans.

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hamster fart commented Friday, 13 Sep 2019 at 10:07am

hay daddy what doing

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AlfieNorks commented Wednesday, 28 Aug 2019 at 11:14pm

Coolangatta Airport has the same issue. PFAS contamination is draining off the airport into the creek that flows out just north of Kirra. Council put up some warning signs. The stuff bioaccumulates as well, so its dilution is slowly reversed in the food chain. And PFAS (per and poly fluoro alkyl Substances) is a group of about 4000 chemicals, of which only 28 can be currently identified. PFOS is just one of them. They are (or were) used in gore tex, Teflon, scotch guard and plating shops. They are ubiquitous in urban sewage and attach themselves tenaciously to biological material, which material is commonly extracted from sewage plants and used as soil conditioner for food production. Research into human health effects is embryonic. Everyone has PFAS in their blood at low levels. Its health impacts on biota, including us, will take decades to unravel.

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Blowin commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 6:16am

The two dozen Newcastle crew with cancer will be stoked to hear that it’s all a beat up.

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AlfieNorks commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 7:52am

Less beat up, sadly, more tip of iceberg.

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stunet commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 8:56am

As Chris Ray, who wrote the Herald article about Williamtown, stated, “Few people know of PFOS and its sister compound perfluourooctanoic acid (PFAS). We will soon hear a lot more about them.”

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Freddy Sunshine commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 10:08am

Dilution is not the solution to pollution

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sophie.kate commented Thursday, 12 Sep 2019 at 6:11pm

Hey All,
For everyone concerned about the PFAS dump, please show your support by following this FB page I've started. We need groundswell action to show council that we're not happy with their decision. It's the only way it's going to get it stopped and for them to use alternatives.
Thanks heaps in advance,
Sophie
https://www.facebook.com/sunshinecoastcouncilpfasdumpaustralia

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thermalben commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 5:58am

It's linked in the article above, but just in case you missed it, here's another article Stu back in January about other PFAS incidents at other airports nearby surf spots.

​​​​​​​https://www.swellnet.com/news/swellnet-dispatch/2019/01/08/something-water

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morg commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 7:38am

Isn’t that just relocating the problem rather than fixing it. Am I missing something? Might even be creating a bigger problem as will be absorbed by fish and become part of the food chain.

Those of us old enough to remember the infections from surfing caused by untreated sewerage outflows won’t be too exited about this.

Surely they could run the water through some sort of superheater, or other scientific type equipment that can remove, eliminate or destroy the PFAS?

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Sprout commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 7:39am

Nah just dump it in the ocean.

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sdizzle80 commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 12:16pm

Yep your right about shifting the problem. Technology currently exists which enables you to remove PFOS from water. It can be costly but is a better solution

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Sprout commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 2:30pm

Not with the airport already 10 million over budget and behind schedule. Ocean.

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savanova commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 8:27am

I used to get some awesome ear and throat infections from surfing the Bra & Vooie back in the day. Every thing old is new again.

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innatube commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 9:01am

Wonder if they would be doing this if their precious 7 story "ecoresort" had already been built on the beachfront just up the coast.
Probably worth another story but the locals are taking the Sunny Coast Council to court to try and stop a 7 story "ecoresort" consisting of over 1000 hotel rooms and units being built by a Japanese consortium on a small plot of beachfront land. Council regulations stipulate a 4 story limit along this stretch but they have overlooked that regulation to allow this monstrosity to go ahead. Us poor locals have to try and come up with hundreds of thousands of $ to fight our own council over this stuffup. Local councillor Steve Robinson has a lot to answer for.

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stunet commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 9:04am

Ain't nothing more oxymoronic than the term 'ecoresort'.

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[email protected] commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 5:55pm

Try this one, the " environmental protection agency" have just granted a company to dump toxic marine dredging from the port of auckland out the back of great barrier island, surely we can sue these pricks on false advertising alone?

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Sprout commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 10:11am

Not to mention the Bokarina Beach abortion and every other high density ghetto in development, Council's easily bought.

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bipola commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 9:20am

it never ends, just pump it out into the ocean. back in the day Bondi Beach used to get flooded with garbage on certain weather conditions

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bigtreeman commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 9:00am

Early 70s we saw a brown plume going from south head, wrapped down the coast to Bondi and beyond.

Go well,
Colin

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abc-od commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 10:04am

Hard to grasp the cavalier attitude on display here considering the dangers PFAS and PFOS present. I assume Council and DES are aware of it, how could they not, but reasoned that extended exposure to groundwater or bioaccumulation in the food chain causes the carcinogens. A 20 day dump is the proverbial piss in a flood. Still, I'd give that stretch a miss during October November.

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nick.minor commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 10:18am

There is a pfas problem back in Melbourne on a different Holland/ CPB site also. The union made a video about it a while back. https://m.facebook.com/watch/?v=687304925038979&_rdr

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Lanky Dean commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 10:46am

Is that kongs island in the sw of photo?

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stunet commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 10:57am

Yep. You can wash off the PFAS under the magical waterfall.

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Lanky Dean commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 10:47am

I'll have some fish and chi.......er WTF PEOPLE?

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surfiebum commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 11:18am

Jeezus fuck they are a bunch of arseholes.

And it'll be ongoing - " and also allowing future average rainfall events to be discharged within 24 to 48 hours for the remainder of the construction period" which will then translate to "we are never removing it"

Time to give the local councillor a call, although it will do fuck all as Sprout pointed out they'll do anything for a buck...

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Jof commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 11:51am

The most amusing thing (maybe wrong words) i find with the PFAS problem, as i understand it, is due to the airports being completely anal about training drills there is now a problem. So in effect WHS people have pushed for this and it has had a huge environmental effect and ultimately death effect. Wonder how many other instances there are where WHS has caused more harm than good. Very ironic the people trying to save lives have cause death.

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Lanky Dean commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:19pm

bassackwards.
training drill. ok jimmy"wink wink Nudge nudge" set off the "foam" .........
Jimmy....why did you actually spray it? oh thats going to cost us....
We have to remember how uneducated we have been with chemicals since well, we invented them.

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MidWestMonger commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 12:20pm

Sadly it seems 'optimal' has only economic and time to implement considered. Such short term thinking releasing carcinogenic contaminated water into the environment. Fingers crossed no one is harmed from such a stupid plan

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monkeyboy commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 12:23pm

...chuck it in the ocean, she'll be right....someone else's problem...

Castaways not much further north has a treated sewage outlet (no pipe under the beach just a creek outflow from Girraween/National Park) - a couple of signs on the beach to inform you - can get itchy in the surf. Noosa's dirty little secret perhaps (although the suburb does have a slightly ironic name).

on a long enough timeframe...

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rogerelastic commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 1:21pm

PFAS and PFOA are more common than people realise - Carpets, fabric treatments, Oral B Glide - its an emerging problem not limited to fire fighting foaming agents

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morg commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 1:35pm

If they do proceed to dump it in the ocean it sets a dangerous precedent and before we know it will probably happen Gold Coast/Kirra, Williamtown/Stockton, Wreck Bay Village etc. Basically any coastal waterways with high levels of PFAS that they can quietly and conveniently get away with just pumping it out to sea.

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stunet commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 2:12pm

Good point.

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jayet-010 commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 11:38pm

"Basically any coastal waterways with high levels of PFAS that they can quietly and conveniently get away with just pumping it out to sea."

Sure. Except they've released a media statement and the modelled concentration levels will be 200 times below the guideline values.

PFAS/PFOA are an emerging issue and clear and rational discussions are what's required. Not semi-hysterical statements that don't reflect the information provided.

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CutbackBretto commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 12:33pm

Oh Jayet-010...

They released a media statement! Well F__k! That settles it then doesn't it. Nothing to see here... media statement is out. We've got no reason to doubt that our govts are looking after our best interests do we? I mean it's not like they demonstrate time after time that it's about the money. How f__kin gullible are you?

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jayet-010 commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 3:04pm

You missed the point.

They're not trying to hide it. Comments like quietly trying to pump it out sea aren't accurate or helpful.

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CutbackBretto commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 3:13pm

I think I got the point. The facts are simple. They're pumping carcinogens into the ocean directly offshore. Feel free to believe the "modelling" all you want. Our govt institutions have repeatedly demonstrated over decades that they are prepared to bend the stats to suit themselves and their developments.

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jayet-010 commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 5:59pm

I would assume they've completed a fairly detailed risk assessment.

This one's for the Brisbane River but gives you an indication of the type of assessment that should be completed.

https://vimeo.com/342894715/4475a8b17b

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jayet-010 commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 6:01pm

Sick wave btw. Is that you?

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morg commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 12:47pm

I don't know how you all feel about it, however after the outflow happens I certainly wouldn't be comfortable surfing in that area or eating sea food from there. I've done enough research modelling over the years to be acutely aware of just how effectively data can be screwed to tell the desired tale.

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:12pm

Fair Dinkum Queensland, you deserve this type of shit. This is what happens when you fuckers don't pay attention and elect genuinely shithouse politicians at local, state and federal levels.
You guys are Australia's Alabama. You brought it on yourselves, so suffer in ya jocks.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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Terminal commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:21pm

"You guys are Australia's Alabama" hahaha, classic!

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Lanky Dean commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:23pm

Actually, it's all over australia vic ,unfortunately.......

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Vic Local commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:34pm

This is true Lanky Dean, but the solution (build a pipe and pump it out to sea) is pure Queensland. It's a testament to the stupidity of Queenslanders that the authorities actually announced this plan rather than trying to do it under the cover of darkness.
#quexit

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mbl88 commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 3:45pm

John Holland are the builders on site and they are Melbourne based so you know there's that. Also airports fall under federal construction guidelines. So anything that gets approved on site is signed off by the federal government. Same as gc airport aswell.

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 8:54am

20/9/2018 (PFAS) EPA Victoria:
"EPA's jurisdiction at Melbourne Airport is limited."
https://www.epa.vic.gov.au/about-us/news-centre/news-and-updates/news/20...

Qldurrz ....One of Us One of Us One of Us....
Whiteshoestomp'n'time! XXXX

List of Federal Airports.
https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/aviation/airport/index.aspx

AFP Airports
https://www.afp.gov.au/what-we-do/our-work-airports/afp-airport-operations

28 Oct 2016 Sunshine Coast officially 'International' Airport (re: List?)
https://www.sunshinecoast.qld.gov.au/Council/News-Centre/Sunshine-Coast-...

Qld Govt Co-ord' General oversees project.( Final > Feds?)
Federal Gvt loan $181m to council +Fed approval for Int' Wetlands.
https://www.sunshinecoastdaily.com.au/news/347-million-airport-upgrade-a...

Council / Private Partners -(Palisade) + Joint deal
https://palisadepartners.com.au/
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/sunshine-coast-will...

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JosephStalin commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 10:58pm

You still butt hurt about the election boy?

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velocityjohnno commented Saturday, 7 Sep 2019 at 8:52pm

"The devil fools with the best laid plan."

and

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh6d659G8X8

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:22pm

Salute swellnet / thermalben links to 'sprouts' 2019 Sunny Coast PFAS updates.
Deadset champs! Surfers must suss ocean outfalls big time...let's keep up to speed.

US warned Oz 2000 that PFAS was pure evil...get rid of the evidence...(Sure Mate!)
PFAS Dose Level = (Oz breach World levels > Water x 78 / Food x 10 / Blood x 6)
95% of Oz Population has PFAS in their bodies.
Seachange Hot Spots are to valuable to write off...Govt' say- Suck it up then Fuck off.

All seaboard Airports share the PFAS guilt trip.
Amberley RAAF Base PFAS flowed into Bremer River our to sea.
Brisbane Airport PFAS poisoned Moreton Bay Marine Park fish/white spot prawns
Gold Coast Airport PFAS poisons GC WSR & Bilinga groundwater is off limits.
Same Court cases / compo claims still playing out...Oz Wide!

Secret recipe?
US won't touch the stuff. Oz golden showers PFAS over most Seachange Coastlines.
Excess Drums of Fire Fighters PFAS fall off utes for fishermen to use as Shark Berley.
Fire-chem' (FOAM) has Pigs & Bulls / Blood & Bone ...(Today's menu is Fish).
Along with it's phosphate makes for a glowing fertilizer if you know what tbb means.

Airports run it by Councils to freely hose Golf Courses but hit Kidz for sports oval fees.
Until all the 3 eyed rugger ladz got weirded out by incurable infections & rashes...
Turf Farms get in on the act as it boosts yield.

Well spotted! Don't these fields bank onto creeks flowing to sea.( Bull sharks Heaven)
Spoonfull a day into Golf Course water traps...feeds the resident Pro Bull Sharks.

Where to from here...What solutions if any. Thankfully science has some answers.
That's right! No need to flush water during worst ever SEQ Drought (Granite Belt!)

PFAS cleanup (Examples)

1) Restore Water Courses with Timber/Driftwood + Mangroves + Seagrass + Oysters
Natural estuary mop up kit has worked wonders in S/E OZ .

2) Gold Coast Airport (Remediation)
https://enviropacific.com.au/projects/remediation-pfas-impacted-groundwa...

3) Brisbane Airport (Treatment & Remediation)
https://pacificwater.com.au/projects/waste-water-treatment-and-remediati...

4) Melbourne Airport Runway Filter > UV Filter Wavepool > Filter > Footy Oval )?
None say because 'Precinct' buys Airport/Urbnsurf/Footy an EPA secret bypass.
https://www.spiire.com.au/projects/melb-airport
https://www.medianet.com.au/releases/172121/
Wavegarden temps-Wales 8`-Texas 20`-WA show filtering process...(Not Melbourne)

Alternate.
Crystal Lagoon slashes the cost of massive water treatment...well worth a look
http://www.fernandofischmann.com/renowned-engineering-construction-magaz...
Diagrams of Process...
http://environment.govmu.org/English/eia/Documents/Reports/2017/2712-hot...

Gold Coast long term water release fact sheets...(Reference for Sunny Coast crew)
http://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/long-term-release-fact-sheets-31414.html

Good Luck Guys...just say the word!

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Thegrowingtrend.com commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 3:50pm

Who needs the Great Barrier Reef?

Nicko

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velocityjohnno commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 6:04pm

"...since May they've been working with Queensland's Department of Environment and Science on solutions to dispose of the ponded water, this week deciding to pump it into the ocean."

I see they are using the Fukushima strategy

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JosephStalin commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 7:05am

Since may they have been dumping this in the maroochy river it's no secret.

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velocityjohnno commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 6:07pm

Glad tbb mentioned sharks - I remember a thread where tbb showed correlation with golf course runoff and shark hot spots

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debbie.mclean commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 6:12pm

Rate payers should decide whether they agree to this pipeline into the ocean...I'm sure it will definitely be a NO. Please don't let this happen, where are the activists now when we need them☹

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benjis babe commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 8:31pm

yep that is kongs island in the photo and it is also my local. surfair has been our go to for quite a few years as Mudjimba gets more crowded. nice,,, looking forward to surfing 200m south of the toxic pipe. Tim dwyer lives in the Caloundra area. that was good of him to say releasing the toxic water into the ocean.. at my local!!!!! as the optimum solution. I guess he also voted to bury the whale at Wurtulla.. the local council are full of dinosaurs who are out of touch. Help us fight this madness

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charlotte commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 9:21pm

That sounds great lets dilute the chemicals in the oceans so we can all have to headed fish to eat . and maybe it will decrese our sperm count so the human population cant reproduce. Think about it ....

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Danm commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 9:36pm

Wtf I have just read this. Also near my local and clean unf &cked beaches. Im trying to work out how they can get away with this but our council here are a corrupt bunch of f $%ckers development at all costs.

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Anthony Amis commented Thursday, 29 Aug 2019 at 9:55pm

Been trying to get a handle on the extent of this nightmare. PFAS chemicals are everywhere: Scotchguard, dental floss, goretex, fast food wrappers etc etc

https://pfas.australianmap.net/

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 12:00am

> > [ ATTENTION ] < <
17th June 2018 - Google Earth clearly shows this same project well under way.
Shows the trench dug & tug vessel towing out some pipe + several other vessels.

B10 Airport & Surrounds MARINE ECOLOGY. (Sunshine Coast Expansion Project)
http://eisdocs.dsdip.qld.gov.au/Sunshine%20Coast%20Airport%20Expansion/E...

Findings:
Changes to quality of Estuarine Flora & Fauna & Biota 'habitat' is moderately possible.
However not long lasting enough to give a shit!

510 -529 - Surfing beaches...Seabed sedimentary build up will be attended to.

velocityjohnno reminds of tbb shark scare..for a very good reason as we're all aware!

Report mentions no impact on endangered sharks but fails to mention beach goers.
1) PFAS is long known as a Shark attractant.
2) Project centres on Mudjimba SLSC < > Marcoola SLSC.
3) October timeline is full blown Nipper Season
4) Pipeline outfall line intersects Shark Drum Lines & Net Contractor's workline
5) Baited Drum Lines + Blood & Bone Berley + Contractors + Jetski Patrol + Nippers.
6) Airport Hotels + Boardriders also crowd this stretch of beach.
7) Qld Govt are awaiting ruling on Drum Line practice whilst sloshing drums of berley.
8) There has been 9 shark Attacks between here & north Qld since last September

Link: Here's approx Location of Shark Drum Lines & Nets. (The Pipe lines up between)
https://www.daf.qld.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0003/68295/SharkEquipm...
Yeah! It's fine..just give at 2nd nudge...that's it...link gets quicker with each bash...

Please! How can these experts not see the obvious or read the papers or Calendar?
Findings...Not one word of PFAS on tap @ Shark's Bar. (People/Surfers don't register)

We all look silly if Project is on 'Google Earth'...(Best if crew could verify Map & date)
Check: Google Earth 'Most recent Set time' [17th June 2018 ] Cheers!

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curly2alex commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 5:41pm

From memory they were pumping in sand to build up 2nd runway about that time which is why you might see pipe and barge.
Ironic really that we take from the ocean what we want and in return send out our garbage.

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Remigogo commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 8:54am

Oh this gives population density a whole new meaning.

Do some in government really think rate payers are as dense as they are?

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velocityjohnno commented Friday, 30 Aug 2019 at 5:12pm

The solution to pollution is bioaccumulation is what's for dinner.

Seriously, there's some really fubar substances out there and I wonder the link between some of it and increasing cancer numbers, type 1 numbers, autoimmune problems, sealife die-offs, etc. VJ was formerly of the area of expertise of identifying some of this stuff and used to delight in finding old transformers filled to the brim with PCBs, asbestos as far as the eye can see ground up in tailings dumps, or worse still in millboard form in the plenum around electric heaters in HVAC units (that one was a party stopper usually).
Radiation from nuke plants and former tests is supposedly sweet, yet mil docs in the 70's claimed there was effectively no safe level, and there have been some very large releases mostly in the N Hemi in recent years. The one that worries me the most recently is the EMF from phone towers, phones themselves, smart meters, the "internet of things" including your smart toaster and my laptop. Not natural, prepare for 5g on much smaller wavelengths. Microwaves almost. It's enough to make you yearn for your old cord phone (which has just been re-installed here).

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/225679194_Mobile_phone-induced_...

https://phys.org/news/2011-05-cell-contributing-honeybee-population-decl...

(Those bits of research were published 2010-11 then were buried under an avalanche of debunking by MSM papers and sites)

https://news.stanford.edu/news/2012/may/tuna-radioactive-materials-05301...

PFOS/PFAS was made in the 1950's - what did they use before in the '40s and WW2 to suppress aircraft fires? Surely we could go less toxic?

Here is a link to the firefighting equipment being used (seems a mix of foam and water) in an infamous example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVgocdvcG0A

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 10:02am

The rain hammers down thru here...(for days at a time)
Sugar Tramlines & open drains cross Airport site from Hwy to river to sea.
Proposed drain to sea wouldn't raise an eyebrow here.

1992 Maroochy River Conservation Park (1998) Mudjimba Island is a big deal.
Therefore the tidal drains by very nature now become #1 big deal.
https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/managing/plans-strategies/pdf/maroochy-rive...

Airport's International Runway runoff tides with Maroochy River...(Rare Frogs)
Report is above...others are about if you need them..

Coolum & Northshore Coast Care (Airport Expansion)
https://coolumcoastcare.org.au/airport-expansion-information/

2019 Timeline.
Preliminary work involves containing run site off (Later results in site flooding)
March - Work on Runway starts + Coolum Rains begin...

April - Rain sets in...500ml

May 3 - Runway work comes to a Halt.
May 13- 200ML over site + 1m deep excess PFAS water is stored in offsite Tanks.
Locals say Wildlife (Kangaroos) are caught in Muddy overflow.
May 18 - Council has still not costed PFAS treatment plans.

June 1 - Council is due for next round of PFAS testing
June 1 - Govt warns Council to deliver on protections from Runway Expansion PFAS.
June # - Work resumes on Airport Runway
June 7 - EIS Update / Timeline coincides with Airport works < > Beach Pipeline
http://statedevelopment.qld.gov.au/coordinator-general/assessments-and-a...

(Explanation) Dual dredging pipeline ( Sand comes in < > PFAS goes out)

June 17- Google Earth image shows Airport Drain + PFAS Ocean Pipeline being laid.
June 18 - 500 tonne Airport dredging Pipeline is moved into place
June 19 - Large section of beach is closed off for Ocean Pipeline Installation.
June 26 - Airport PFAS Storage Tank readies for PFAS pipeline to Ocean.

July 20 - Airport PFAS Storage Tank is installed (220 ML)
https://theworldnews.net/au-news/airport-water-tank-installed-to-manage-...

JWA Beach contractor site / re: access. [All access project links *****]
https://www.jwaoil.com/case-studies/sunshine-coast-airport-expansion-pro...

> > [ ATTENTION ] < < + > > [ NEWS ] < <
August 25 -Deputy Mayor's Video Address (See main Story)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-29TpjFULnU

1)Airport can't dump PFAS into Maroochy River, so they access Ocean to dilute it.
2)Airport Tank is never gonna treat flooded PFAS so they seek direct pumping.
3)Mayor > below Oz PFAS levels.(Hardly Good ! see: tbb above Oz Water x 78 ws)

August 26 - Airport PFAS Tank / Management Plan is now in place to 'treat' PFAS.
August 28 - New Pipe is in place to Pump PFAS.(Initial large volume is untreated)

tbb was thrown by the Dual Action Pipe...so we're all on the same page now!

Doc Motherlode
https://www.dsdmip.qld.gov.au/coordinator-general/assessments-and-approv...

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Hirsty commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 6:59am

Is this something that should be stopped and if so where can I jump on board with some real action towards stopping it and not just having a whinge like most of us Great Australains do when Government fucks us!!!

Cheater5in

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sandcrab commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 9:37am

will you accept an inferior fire fighting foam when its your family trapped in fuel soaked wreckage

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 10:46am

Hirsty wishes to fight the good fight...tbb +Qld salutes!...just hold your steam.
This sly 'done deal' approves untreated PFAS being pumped raw into our surf breaks.
Meaning flooded PFAS presenting as a hazard, can now be pumped untreated to sea.
All Govts are on board as Hero Ocean Pipe "Saves wetlands" (Lesser of two evils)

If Sunny Coast Airport can dump PFAS > Then equally so Oz wide Defence /Airports.
This triggers an OZ Wide War on Ocean Dumping of untreated PFAS.

[NEWS] On the Firefighting Front.
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-05/i-fsc042619.php
May 2019 Aust' / Global Firefighters call for ban on PFAS
Cost effective Fluorine-free alternatives work as well or better.
New alternatives do not cause harm to humans & environment.

All 27 major Oz airports have transitioned to Fluorine Free.
Global Air / Oil / Shipping / Military are agree new brew works better.

Much more than that, it's a basic human rights issue.
Save the Firefighter / Save the World.

Qld Fire Services want PFAS gone from here & every Airport.

http://cappfas.com/

Wave of the Day~~~^~~~~/(`~~~~/(C`..[ Hirsty )

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jayet-010 commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 3:41pm

So if 200 times below the guideline limit is not acceptable than what is acceptable and how much are you willing to pay for it?

Maybe we could raise GST another 5% to pay for all these environmental issues?

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Sir Abacus Bent commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 12:11pm

jayet, why do you trust the word of those who either incompetently failed to identify the problem in the planning stage or deliberately chose to hide it for, I presume, commercial purposes?

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jayet-010 commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 3:43pm

I'm not big on conspiracy theories, but if you have evidence of wrongdoing ...

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Sir Abacus Bent commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 4:49pm

You will find 'wrong-doing', as you call it, in one of these:

a) It is possible that the consultant was incompetent and he missed a problem in the planning and investigative stage of the project. That is unlikely as we are told this is a common problem at airports around Australia (That would be some kind of incompetence!)
or;
b. The council was well aware of the need to dump PFAS in the ocean but deliberately did not tell the public when it sought the public's support for the new airport. That would be some kind of dishonesty! :o)

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jayet-010 commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 8:55pm

Or they got a shit load more rain than was expected and had to find a way to manage the water before they had an uncontrolled release!

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Sir Abacus Bent commented Monday, 2 Sep 2019 at 9:23am

I see you went for option 'a'. Fair enough .
What you are really saying is the scientist and others responsible for assessing the risk failed to take into account a significant but not record breaking rain event. That is frightening incompetence
Dumping PFAS in our children's playgrounds... another spit in then face from the Sunshine Coast Council .
Who votes for this shit?

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CutbackBretto commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 2:59pm

I reckon you're involved in this somehow.

The average person can make an educated decision to stop trusting institutions that have consistently misled the public over decades... but you... you're like...

"Well... if they say it's ok, then I'm good with that."

You're probably happy to scull a glass of Glyphosate because they're saying it's fine!

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jayet-010 commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 4:53pm

It must be liberating to be so free from reality!

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Feralkook commented Saturday, 31 Aug 2019 at 11:04am

What most Australian's do not understand is this shit has been used at every airport in the country for decades. Allowing it to drain in the ocean is not the solution and another method of remediation of that waste and contaminated groundwater needs to be used. Now I am waiting for the Government to open another exposure register to add my name too, along with the Asbestos and Beryllium registers I am already on.
There was a company I believe who approached the Commonwealth when Oakey blew up in the government's face with a very workable but expensive solution that offered a high success factor. Of course, their services were not required because the government was "doing stuff".

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Sacdog1 commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 8:56am

"The release of pounded water from the site direct to the ocean is the optimal solution"
From a monetary point of view I'm sure it is,
Dickhead

PebblyPete

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bigtreeman commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 9:43am

To hold any entity (person, company, government) liable you have to gather data. It will be in the future, the damage will have been done, but those responsible might eventually be held responsible or compensation might be paid.
To stop these types of things happening in the future we have to take positive action now. At Turimetta beach we took water samples for the university to analyze, now at Jacobs Well, I am recording dust pollution from our local sand mine and sometimes it is well out of order. When the mining and recycling operations heard that I was monitoring their dust levels I was immediately contacted by the DES for more information. They only were concerned if my data would hold up in court.
Before the outfalls start operating, take background readings, then start taking regular samples and have them analyzed. Hook up with the university, they do this type of research. In the future this data might be essential. Don't rely on the Department of Environment and Science, they are underfunded and don't have the staff to monitor or enforce anything.
Dust is my pet project at the moment, if you want a dust monitor, contact me, I put them together cheap.

Go well,
Colin

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thermalben commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 10:29am

Great idea.

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jayet-010 commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 3:58pm

Citizen science. Good idea. Maybe you can crowdfund it?

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Yaroomba commented Tuesday, 3 Sep 2019 at 8:28am

I'm an enviro scientist and live in Yaroomba (couple of KMs from the proposed outfall). If someone knows how to set up crowd funding to pay for lab costs, I will do the testing. Propose 5 sampling points: 1 @ 500m south, 1 @ 100m south, 1 @ outfall, 1 @ 100m north, 1 @ 500m north. All sample points in the recreation zone (<50m offshore).
I volunteer to do the work (would be nice for others to volunteer to help) if someone can volunteer to setup crowdfunding. I've contacted the lab for a quote for each test so we know how much we are chasing.

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Hirsty commented Wednesday, 4 Sep 2019 at 6:03am

I'll help mate!!!! I'm no scientist but I'm keen to get involved in any way shape or form!

Cheater5in

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linda.fisher commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 10:11am

Ok something has to be done. Why can’t we 1. Change to non- fluorine foams in the future? and 2. Cart awy this hazardous water to somewhere else, bury it, treat it or whatever we do to get rid if it instead of putting it in the ocean? Why is this not an alternative? Community living here need to have a say in this! Stop this Council!!!!! I don’t trust them - I just read the report about low impacts on this that and the other and got to the bit about stopping if while pouring into the ocean the readings appear high!!! Bit late then don’t you think!!!!!!

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dawnperiscope commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 8:47pm

Surely the foam is no longer in use .. is it??

Ride on

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linda.fisher commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 10:13pm

Upon reading and understanding more about this it appears that fluorine free has been used since 2010? It is the contaminated soil that is the problem. So, more questions arise. This has been an issue for a long time - how come the public are just hearing about the consequences of this expansion? It was not discussed in any public consultation.

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lampy commented Monday, 2 Sep 2019 at 12:17pm

Unfortunately there is no easy way to treat PFAS contaminated waste. i believe the only good method is oxidation degradation by high heat. Eg incineration. There is a good podcast about PFAS on shirtloads of science hosted by Dr Karl.
https://shirtloadsofscience.libsyn.com/are-pfas-here-forever-140

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linda.fisher commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 3:52pm

Thanks - I listened to the Dr Karl interview. So I ask the Council why can’t this soil be cleaned and contained onsite rather than dumping it in the ocean every time it rains? We need some facts and figures released. Just wanted to let you know that I have forwarded Dr Karl’s interview on more local Facebook sites so we can all gain a better understanding with what we are faced with here! Thank you again....

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Magilla commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 10:28am

Total council bullshit. Can somebody who may be able to write it up nicely, start a change petition?

......and quickly!

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Sir Abacus Bent commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 11:49am

What fool would trust the assurances and press releases from the Sunshine Coast Council?

What credibility has the council whose mayor, Mark Jamieson, famously declared that community groups are “ illegitimate? (Yes, including the SC Environmental Council. Coast Care et al)

Where is the SC council’s credibility when not one councillor had the courage to stand up for our community groups when they were under attack from the mayor?

Where is the accountability in a council that refuses to consult but is ever so quick to condemn?
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We have seen enough to know that the interests of our community are NOT the interests of the council.
We cannot put the future of our oceans in their hands.

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morg commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 2:26pm

We’ve got a drought in NSW and mining companies are freighting water by rail to enable their effected mines to maintain operations. Could they use the contaminated water safely?

Perhaps the government or Councils could subsidise the cost of freighting the contaminated water to make it more appealing for the mining companies. This could keep it out of our food chain and eliminate the problem.

If on the other hand its found to be too toxic to do this, then how are they actually determining it’s safe to pump into the ocean? Diluting a problem, isn’t removing it. It’s just repackaging so it becomes someone else’s problem(s) long after the current stakeholders have washed their hands of it.

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jayet-010 commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 3:16pm

That's actually not a bad idea morg. 'course it depends on distances and cartage costs but these would be offset by the costs of treatment or disposal.

If it's suitable for discharge for the marine environment it'll def be ok for industrial use and disposal via tailings dams.

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velocityjohnno commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 4:12pm

Speaking of excellent independent background monitoring, here's a Sunshine Coast-based gem:

http://sccc.org.au/international-radiation-monitoring-stations

There's a lot in here (and a lot to understand - eg the difference in process to measure air, food, water for radiation. Eg possible causes for high UV and planetary thermal imbalances.)

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JosephStalin commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 5:36pm

I worked on this site for quite awhile and you can see my house in the pic just in from Kong's island.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 1 Sep 2019 at 11:40pm

Palisade Investment Partners Sunshine Coast Council
(Description) Palisade links Light Rail from Airports to Uni-[+] $[P]
https://palisadepartners.com.au/
Govt & Council are thorough at eliminating rival Transit & [P] to deliver (Goldmines)

Palisade director is Former Oz #1 Acting PM Mark Vaile (nets $181m Fed con' loan)
https://palisadepartners.com.au/team/hon-mark-vaile-ao/
Qld treasury arm also has financing arrangements.

Palisade partners with LGIA (Qld Local Govt super) SC Council stands to profit.
https://www.lgiasuper.com.au/about-us/meet-the-team
LGIA Board...Hey! That bloke looks a lot like the Mayor?

If Palisades feed the Mayor/Council then the Future Town Plan is a conflict of interest.
Palisades Lightrail to University + Hospital + [P] = $ Mayor/Council
Palisades Lightrail to Airport [P] = $ Mayor/Council
Palisades Heavy rail 'Private Last Leg' (see: Bne Airport) = $ Mayor/Council
Palisades Airport Shuttle = $ Mayor/Council

Timeshare Trolley lags 30mins on Coast trip to wheel in Age Care internment.
1km wide x 10 fold development gravy train up zones LGIA super = $ Mayor/Council

Palisade 'Airport-Uni-[+]-[P]-Transit' deals are a massive conflict to whole council?

Commercial in confidence, closed door meetings, stall bans, no complaint register!
Nope! They don't accept online petitions either...Nor do they reply to mail anymore.

Goldie whiteshoes 'd struggle wading thru Sunny Coast sea of sharks. Good Luck!

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Ape Anonymous commented Monday, 2 Sep 2019 at 10:03am

Environmental contamination: gee, why are cancer rates so high?

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Sprout commented Monday, 2 Sep 2019 at 4:56pm

Change.org petition: https://www.change.org/p/mark-jamieson-stop-sunshine-coast-council-dumpi...
(Can we get the link added up top?)
Article in Sunny Coast Daily today too, so they know people aren't happy.

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Yaroomba commented Tuesday, 3 Sep 2019 at 8:29am

Adding this comment down here for visibility:
I'm an enviro scientist and live in Yaroomba (couple of KMs from the proposed outfall). If someone knows how to set up crowd funding to pay for lab costs, I will do the testing. Propose 5 sampling points: 1 @ 500m south, 1 @ 100m south, 1 @ outfall, 1 @ 100m north, 1 @ 500m north. All sample points in the recreation zone (<50m offshore).
I volunteer to do the work (would be nice for others to volunteer to help) if someone can volunteer to setup crowdfunding. I've contacted the lab for a quote for each test so we know how much we are chasing.

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Sprout commented Tuesday, 3 Sep 2019 at 9:08am

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FIGURES released by Sunshine Coast Council show it will spend $2.5 million to pump half a gram of PFAS to sea in 125 million litres of water now ponded on the runway construction site.

"The ocean release proposed is completely safe for the environment. It is safe for fish and other sea life. It is safe for humans," a council representative said. "The PFAS National Environmental Management Plan allows for up to 87.5 grams in 125 megalitres of water discharged to the ocean. If treatment of any water is found to be necessary, the water will pass through a four-stage treatment process involving a sand filter, a zeolite filter, a granulated activated carbon filter and finally an ionised resin filter."

Meanwhile the Queensland Government's environmental regulator says it will not intervene if PFAS concentrations in water remain below those stipulated under the National Environment Management Plan benchmark as safe for recreational activity.

Representatives from Maroochy North Shore board rider and surf clubs, environmental groups and the Surfrider Foundation will meet this Wednesday night to share their concerns. Surfrider Foundation president Stephen James the intent was to make a joint approach to the council for full detail of what is proposed.

A Department of Environment and Science representative said the council had produced a fact sheet saying it would release water whose PFAS concentration was 200 times below the level still considered safe for recreation.

"In terms of monitoring, the allowable level of PFAS contamination is 0.7 ug/L and this will be the trigger value for any intervention by the department," the representative said. "Levels below this figure will not be a cause for concern." "Overall, the risk to humans and animals from PFAS contaminated-water being released in this instance is 'minimal' - meaning very small and insignificant."
"In the case of human exposure, the concentration of PFAS in contaminated water from the Sunshine Coast Airport expansion project site is below 0.7ug/L. This is below nationally agreed primary contact recreation guidelines. "The figure 0.7 ug/l (micrograms per litre) equates to 0.0007 milligrams of contamination per litre of water."

"The Sunshine Coast Regional Council will be monitoring this as part of its biota monitoring to comply with the PFAS National Environmental Management Plan."
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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 3 Sep 2019 at 10:13pm

tbb salutes Sprout & crew good job...

Sprout please check on recent (Official) changes to PHAS in recreational water levels
tbb believes the report went to minister in March...(Officially adopted by April 2019)

National Health & Medical Research Council.
PHAS recreation levels are official...be sure to double check...
2017-(0.7 ug/L) or .7 micrograms per litre
2019-(2.0 ug/L) or 2 micrograms per litre
https://www.nhmrc.gov.au/about-us/publications/guidelines-managing-risks...

Australian Govt Department of Health
https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/health-p...

*Goldie crew are sending up some background sets ...Get on them Sunnyboyz!

Gold Coast (Airport / Creek PFAS outfall) Measures & Signage {Archives}

2016 Surfrider Foundation raised concerns of PFAS.
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/sun-community/concerns-for-las...

2016 Desal Plant detected PFAS at Ocean intake 1km offshore (2km Nth of PFAS Ck)
http://www.ohscareer.com.au/archived-news/pfas-inside-view-revealed
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?id=547696285321651&story_fbid=181...

2017 News Reports on Airport PFAS & Coolangatta Creek Shutdown.
https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/council/toxic-chemical-pfas-fo...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-10-11/toxic-pollution-flowing-to-kirra-...

http://www.mygc.com.au/toxic-chemicals-gold-coast-airport-detected-coola...

https://www.tweeddailynews.com.au/news/kirra-beach-closed-after-toxic-ch...

https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/news/gold-coast/latest-tests-finds-...

Groundwater contamination fear spreads..
https://www.smh.com.au/environment/conservation/dangerous-fire-fighting-...

Airport PFAS could have spread 20km's...
https://www.echo.net.au/2017/10/gold-coast-airport-pollution-spread-20km/

2017 GC Airport internal Report
http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/wp-content/uploads/2017_Gold-Coast_P...

2018 Federal Inquiry
file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/Sub%2077_Redacted%20(1).pdf

2019 State Environment report
https://www.qld.gov.au/environment/pollution/management/disasters/invest...

2019 News
https://www.facebook.com/StopTheILS/posts/2363472440343295

Additional

NSW Wetlands Report (Airport is on Border!)
https://www.epa.nsw.gov.au/-/media/epa/corporate-site/resources/pfas/gol...

Note: Coolangatta Creek flows into the GC WSR
Aug 6th 2018 GCB / Swellnet Andy McKinnon said water quality was 'WSR criteria'

https://enviropacific.com.au/projects/remediation-pfas-impacted-groundwa...

Goldie crew links hands with Sunnyboyz - Line in the sand..............

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 4 Sep 2019 at 12:07am

Straight hander did well, thanx for double checking (Levels up > 2.0 ug/l) Spot on!
tbb apologizes for such a huge reading error...(immediately corrected it was!)
tbb never made sense of what he wrote as he raced for [+] bus/train/tram combo.
Diagnosed with Central Serous Retinopathy...(Wobbly psychedelic vision) # 2nd time!
In tbb's defence the PFAS readings look a bit like this ...[ #%@! ]

Why would the Govt revise down PFAS when Oz levels keep rising.

Although the massive increase - times with massive Sunny Coast PFAS washout.
Sunny Coast Airport PFAS is likely to exceed Gold Coast Airport creek flush levels.
Note: GC Desalination Plant in-pipe recorded PFAS 'slightly' under .7ug/l

SC Council profit from PFAS exercise & therefore must not involve in such evil doings!

World Heath Guidelines Level 0.5 ug/l applies to Lakes & Rivers that flow to Dams.
Explains why Council can't flush high level PFAS into Maroochy 'World' Wetlands.
Feds rudely up the level for the beach flush (Ocean is not on WHO radar)...See below!

(Important) The above readings do not apply to Oz "Drinking water" levels.
tbb mentioned above that Oz PFAS drinking water was 78 x higher than world levels.
April 2017(update)Oz 'lowered' PFAS in drinking water from 0.5 mg/l > 0.07 mg/l
This finally brings Oz into line with US standards only on drinking water.

Recap! Oz doesn't see PFAS as a threat in non protected habitat.
Basically Govt wish to flow higher doses of PFAS away from Dams / Migratory Birds.
Mid October Sunshine Coast offensive Ocean release is during Whale Calf Migration
Oct- Nov is when Mothers & Calves return hugging a closer inshore protective route.
Sunshine Coast Council hosing PFAS over Whale Calves would breach IWC charter.
Doubt if WHO would allow a PFAS overdose hit on Whale calves either.

Great that Govt care about wetland migration but not at the cost of Marine migration.
Mudjimba Island reserve is equally part of Maroochy Wetland reserve in every way!
That includes Whales,Birds ,Frogs & all creatures great & small. (Well doesn't it?)
PFAS levels must apply equally from Island to tidal drains for each World habitat.

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jayet-010 commented Wednesday, 4 Sep 2019 at 5:01pm

I understand the previous NHMRC recreational guideline value is based on 10x the drinking water guideline (a common practice for setting recreational values) based upon exposure (ingesting 200ml of 0.07ug/L PFOS) 365 days/year.

The new recreational guideline is based on exposure 150 days/year.

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jayet-010 commented Wednesday, 4 Sep 2019 at 5:19pm

Either way the lower 95% protection level for marine ecosystems NEMP value should apply. Unless they've argued the 90% level applies or allowed a mixing zone (area of lower ecological protection)?

Not sure anyone has done toxicological studies of PFAS on whales but you would think being more motile their exposure risks would be lower.

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jayet-010 commented Wednesday, 4 Sep 2019 at 9:55pm

Stu, your article states PFAS is a carcinogen but I didn't think that had been established yet?

https://www1.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/Content/44CB8059...$File/health-effects-exposure-factsheet.pdf

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 1:10am

Australian literature is at odds with world standards. It even picks apart world studies.
Think climate change deniers! Only oz is at one on no harm policy due to Defence!

Here's the basic horrid way in which PFAS is 'proven' to destroy many healthy bodies.
[WARNING] The described example is purely medical & may come as a shock...OK!
Example: Pregnant Woman drinking PFAS laced Tap water.

Mother to be drinks PFAS tap water...Her liver & Kidneys try to filter the poison. Her body requires her to drink more water than normal just to flush the PFAS. Being pregnant she requires a massive amount more PFAS water for her newborn as well. Her body is now hooked on a vicious cycle of more PFAS to filter more PFAS. (Like an addict)
Her liver & kidneys are now ballooning as her body needs to retain water to flush the toxin. They call this Pre-eclampsia (Toxemia) & women exposed to PFAS suffer most.
Symptoms include high blood pressure, fatigue, blurred vision, dizziness, headache, excessive nausea, weight gain, swelling at extremities, abdominal pain, little to no urine output, breast milk & change in reflexes.
This leads to birthing issues like low blood flow, blood clotting, fluid on the lungs & seizures. All resulting her PFAS baby being born under nourished, underweight & likely with diabetes.
In her hour of need the mother's body is exhausted with little liquid to spare for milk.
Mother & baby are in survival mode needing emergency care. (As serious as it gets!)
(Pause)
You may notice Pregnant Women are being banned from many activities. Usually Smoke, Alcohol, marinelife encounters due to Shark Shields. Pools & larger Wave Lagoons are off limits for Mothers to be & infants > 5years old. Mostly as the new larger Lagoons may draw upon PFAS run off water then to be filtered. Meaning! At very least Council should noticeboard that PFAS runout can harm mothers to be.

How much of the population would be affected.(If PFAS is in drinking /ground water) Roughly 2% are at risk or (200 / 10,000 = Airport surrounds population) Possible that flooded overflow PFAS may already exist in Groundwater/Veggie Gardens. Let's face it, those drains look pretty dodgy.

Crew are wise enough to know all creatures would suffer similar fate & offspring.

Don't be alarmed as Govt' informs us, this can only happen in the scary outside world. As we all know Oz Mums are tough enough to fight off a bad batch of PFAS. We pray!

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jayet-010 commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 8:30am

Thanks TBB. That was a lucid and informative response. Are you also to able to provide a reference for me to cross-check?

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Jayet-010 asks all the right questions...tbb can steer you there but the roads bumpy!

[Disclaimer] tbb was specifically searching for effects on Pregnancy & newborns. Note: Saltwater & any toxin acts the same & Doctors advise to drink more water in all cases. However Oz Doctors are last to know if the drinking water is contaminated. Mum's PFAS levels decrease dramatically after birth. Assumes baby then has PFAS %.

(Web Research) US / Sweden confirm links but Oz / Norway refute links. So! Search for what truth you want?

References are several but this study has chapters on population comparisons. Lab focus + boosted by big picture geographics.(re: US states Studies can be found in similar nature with USA PFAS maps) Rightly or wrongly this is only place tbb could source-across the board 2% stats. (Tip) US sites maybe likely to back up the stats.

Being a file, it may not load so tbb is including (WHO) title

[ the case of water contamination in the Veneto Region, Italy ] ..re: (Page 33 - Box 7)

http://www.euro.who.int/__data/assets/pdf_file/0018/340704/FINAL_pfas-re...

Australian reports linking PFAS to pre-eclampsia are rare or blocked or disputed. The OZ Govt files demonising o/s PFAS health reports is staggering. PFAS only harms aliens ....PFAS wouldn't harm Aussie Mums & babies. (Norway is eerily similar) Twin resource nations must share PFAS stockpiles & harbour some fucked -up PFAS real estate angst.

This rare Oz bird straight up wins a medal marketing OZ defence & PFAS impacts.
https://evocra.com.au/case-studies/pfas

Check Maroochy River water quality comparison site is here...
https://reportcard.hlw.org.au/

Maroochy Waterwatch welcomes volunteers re: water testing / samples.
http://www.maroochycatchmentcentre.org.au/catchment/

tbb will get back on recent examples of GC Contaminated Waterway/s closures.
Regards to Noticing + Event + Closure time + Causes (Qldurrz Censored Archive)

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Remigogo commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 8:13am

Between PFAS and fracking the underground water will be alright for year's.

No worries, she's all good.

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monkeyboy commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 8:42am

Growth at any cost.

on a long enough timeframe...

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jayet-010 commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 8:52am

More like growth at lowest (financial) cost.

If we want better environmental protection we need to:

1. Understand the risk (science)
2. Make better decisions (voting)
3. Pay for better treatment, controls etc. (money)

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Sir Abacus Bent commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 5:26pm

1. The science is in its infancy so we need to adhere to the precautionary principle .
2. Voting? Yes a democratic pipeline to pump the unrepresentative swill into yesteryear.
3. We can pay for what must be done by adding a levy on those businesses who told us Sekisui and a BIG AP would bring rivers of gold.
See, even scientific and economic rationalism are on our side.

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Sprout commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 2:09pm

You're on fire TBB, love your work.
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THE weight of numbers has forced postponement of a meeting of the Marcoola Community Group planned for this evening... President Susie Chapman said the meeting had been planned as an information night for its members at Marcoola Surf Life Saving Club... She had secured runway project director Ross Ullman and officers from the Department of Environment and Science to address the gathering... with numbers anticipated to attend quickly outstripping the venue's capacity.
Ms Chapman said the group was now working with Sunshine Coast Council to secure a suitable location with capacity to hold the large numbers it was expected would attend. She said the council had agreed to accept responsibility for public liability insurance for the meeting. More details will be released when a venue was determined.
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Craig commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 11:20am

This is good news!

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truebluebasher commented Thursday, 5 Sep 2019 at 9:44pm

Wow! Great work Sunny Coast...Goldie / Tweed crews are with yer all the way!

Salute to past local beach protest crews that led the way...Legends!
1900-Plague Protests fought for humanity across border beaches.
1910-Pollution Protests brought about a better way.
1920-Protests for Salt Air Farming against chem Tick Dips
1930-Protests over draining Beach Town Lagoons.
1940-Protesters first blocked Sand Mining Bulldozers
1950-Women stand against theft of Town Parks & enough with the Mega Quarries
1960-Awareness of DDT runoff to waterways + Mercury in Water.
1970-(United Oz Era) against Uranium Mining + Anti Nukes + Free Whales
1980-Rid CFC + Ozone Hole + Radioactive Sand + Save old growth forests
1990-Unearthing Asbestos Dumps alongside Acid Sulphate fish Kills...& still?
2000-Dredging + Reef destruction + Save Southern Points,Surf Breaks,Bommies
2010-Seachange overcrowding + Water scams + WSR/Sharks off the hook? + PFAS
Big shout out also to AndyM for standing ground on {GC WSR} [ not 4 sale ]
http://www.mygc.com.au/sanity-has-prevailed-coolangatta-locals-praise-sa...
Now Sunny Coast beachgoers get up off the canvas for 1st round PFAS Knock out!
Humpback is set free from GC nets...(That's the Trifecta)...Win! Win! Win!
http://www.mygc.com.au/watch-humpback-whale-freed-after-getting-caught-i...
2010-Whales in Town + Private Beach Licencing + Locals Lockout.(We're still here!)

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JosephStalin commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 9:01am

The initial campaign to stop the airport expansion failed.
The immediate surrounds of the airport are wetlands that drain into the maroochy river then to the ocean, these chems would already be in that environment.
Only very extreme measures (if any) could stop this dumping from happening.
Negative me - yeah probably - but the "experts/powers that be" have their figures and won't be swayed by a public meeting at a surf club.

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damo-b commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 5:32pm

Always knew this airport extension was going to be trouble.

There's a few petitions floating around on facey in regards to the aforementioned. If a million signed it, I don't know if anything would change. I'd have to begin with an in-depth research assignment on petitions over the postmodern period and their effectiveness.

https://www.change.org/p/the-sunshine-coast-regional-council-stop-the-pu...

It's true, we're captained by that strange cat in a panama hat, and he's selling the coast out. Trouble is, with the balance of constituents tipping in support of the pro-development sentiment, the politicians running the divide and conquer program are lauding it. The older generation of working class locals are ascending to upper-middle due to their ocean-view family homes now worth a motser. There's little sympathy for well-off toes-in-the-sand types resisting new overhead flight paths, et cetera.

And like the Yaroomba anti-resort crew, scores of smaller Sunny Coast anti this and anti that folk don't get a look in because their voice is barely a whisper against mighty winds from the south. I reckon community groups need to combine to take a well researched, infallible, structured argument backed by solid evidence to council and government; it's true that the cause is going to take some cash.

It'd be helpful if some professionals - scientists, lawyers, admins, researchers, writers, photographers and-the-like supported a transparency push with a view to designing an advocacy project resulting in drafting new legislation on crimes against the environment and her bona-fide inhabitants - flora, fauna, land, sea, us.

Then I guess there's 'If you don't love it, leave it.' I'll hang in for a while longer, but when the cane fields, grazing land and bush around here makes way for more colourbond and brick veneer, I'm off. Where the hell do you go, though? Anywhere within striking range of a surf break is gentrified.

Time to take a stand. Or can bliss truly be found in ignorance?

Damo Bereziat

DamoB

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jayet-010 commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 11:49am

Good comment

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jayet-010 commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 12:07pm

It annoys me when hysterical claims are made or conspiracy theories thrown about because it drowns out the real issues of concern.

If there is an issue here, and it sounds like there is, than gather and present the facts in a rationale manner. Sir Abacus was on the right path ... how did they get the flood modelling so wrong? And ... I haven't seen the PFAS assessment in the EIA docs. I may have missed it but it shouldn't be hard to find if they're open and accountable. This should list the different disposal/treatment options they looked at and the cost of each.

There's two questions I'd be asking at the forum.

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Sprout commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 5:21pm

Very well put. Unfortunately Stockland owns the Sunshine Coast now.

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damo-b commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 5:57pm

It's a fact that Stockies is propping the economy either directly or indirectly via its subsidiaries, contractors or sub-contractors. I argue that their dollar-store style of development is absolute shithouse, a blight on the environment, and a sad reflection on the state of consumer fear driven, debt fuelled, late capitalism.

I also am a firm believer that if you want to write something off, you could at least try to offer an alternative or solution to the issue/problem. The cat in the panama hat said himself "come forth with an intelligent argument and i'll have a good look at it." Half a dozen wealthy septuagenarians waving a half-arsed cardboard protest banner on the local news ain't gonna do jack.

I'd add that the residents of Finland Rd - the access to and from the John Holland runway site - have another take on what can only be described as a farce. How a tier one construction company could overlook the most basic of construction site fundamentals is beyond comprehension.

Trucks can't safely make the sharp turn on or off the main drag with stop-gap stop-go measures now in place. 20 mill for traffic lights and a haul-out road between the golf course and me mate's place strategy shit-canned by the Finland Rd collective. So it should be.

No one wanted the extra runway. And only a few grubby capitalist contractors stand to get rich off the project. This debacle may come close to bankrupting the ratepayer funded council coffers. It's going to be QCs at ten paces (Holland v. Council) over who's paying for this monumental fuck-up.

DamoB

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JosephStalin commented Saturday, 7 Sep 2019 at 8:00am

She does get good, the right conditions are few and far between and any wiff she gonna be half decent every man and his pfas are on it these days.
Still a magic place I like to visit regularly even just for a paddle round then back to the beach.

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truebluebasher commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 4:47pm

Wave Pool Life Guard 007 hooked up with Sunny Coast femline spy at Spot X.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c7/b3/e5/c7b3e53b66c1f1e8f205f94f98ba6ceb...
Aston Martin goatboat infiltrated the Sth chamber-escaped via Dr No's Nth side Slab.

Bond Classic or Kong Classic...no matter, it's bigger than Qld & stronger than XXXX.
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/wax/350019

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Sprout commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 5:22pm

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A PUBLIC meeting hosted by six Six Sunshine Coast community organisations will host a meeting next week about the proposed discharge of ponded water at Sunshine Coast Airport into the ocean at Marcoola from mid October.
The meeting to be held at Maroochydore RSL on September 10 from 6.30pm will include presentations by Sunshine Coast Airport Expansion Project director Ross Ullman and Andrew Connor the executive director of compliance at the Department of Environment and Science.
The Marcoola Community Group, Surfrider Foundation Sunshine Coast, Mudjimba Boardriders, Sunshine Coast Environment Council, Coolum and North Shore Coast Care and Organisation of Sunshine Coast Association of Residents (OSCAR) will co-host the event.
A University of the Sunshine Coast researcher will also deliver the results of a mudcrab and fish study done as part of the annual Healthy Land and Water Report Card.
Those attending will get the opportunity to ask questions of the panel of presenters.
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damo-b commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 6:01pm

Sprout,

That'll be an interesting meeting. I'll be there with bells on.

DamoB

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truebluebasher commented Saturday, 7 Sep 2019 at 1:16am

tbb spawned a Uni maths mad Son & Accountant Daughter so will do his homework!
Not saying this is correct & it's really dumbed down but it lays out the Maths.

Pipe Outfall is 400m out from lowest Tide-line @ 12m-14m depth > 16m centrepoint
Project measures out PFAS tidal dispersal range of 4kms coastline x 2kms out to sea.
Total PFAS Ocean Volume is 128,000 ML...(tbb is not saying in equal penetration?)

PFAS Pipeline pumps out 8ML day (tbb is not saying on which swell or tide?)
The PFAS measure is 1 part in 16,000 ML
tbb will have to get back on stored site raw ug/L readings...
Basherz in over his head ...Gonna need a math's whizz....

Council says 200 x below allowable level (implies dispersed reading 0.02ug/L)

2019 Recreational levels were raised 0.7ug/L > 2.0ug/L or 2 micrograms per litre/Day
tbb earlier mentioned that timely rise dovetails this project...seemingly so!

Now just hold on! tbb clearly approximated Bathymetry by bodybasher standards.
Assuming that centre depth holds sway...all things being equal about!

Govt Project will not work in moderate surf height nor ocean fall Night Hours (Safety)
Realistically project will only pump on set hours of one favoured daylight tide.
Waves will direct the PFAS chemical towards a targeted beach, it can't be helped.

Daily 'safe' dose is now double dosed thru single tide 'swim hours' release.
If surf is up for 4 days then an illegal Double Dose is now a Quadrupled Dose.
The wave net Quarters the PFAS as is a Wave Rose so again Quadruples the Dose.

Depending on Winds of Change! Here's a plausible & likely Ocean outfall scenario.
Single tide Release held up by a moderate week long Southerly swell (Normal!)
That alone can concentrate PFAS dumps up to 10 x the projects base level ug/L.
As there are set dumps days...Ask! It certainly messes with guidelines.

Note! This is not a Floodlit Lake...it's the Pacific Ocean...Requires o/n Police & LG's etc.

Plan B options ( Yes! tbb will cop flack for providing these, but this is serious.)
*SC Council can comply with 24 hr Oceanfall Workers (Not recommended for PFAS!)
*SC Council need to at least double the time frame to release PFAS !
*SC Council need to tell Govt not to bully them on dangerous fast track releases.
*SC Council could apply to monitor effects for much needed science & town pride.
Very few Communities put their hand up for PFAS tests...Science will applaud!
Sunshine Coast go from Zeros to Heroes in world's eyes for caring (#1 Eco Watch)

tbb has done his best to avail what scenarios will play out but is no Math's Whiz!
More than happy if a Sunny Coast dolphin eats tbb's homework!
To compensate... tbb did lay out a couple of Plan B's...Good Luck!

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jayet-010 commented Friday, 6 Sep 2019 at 11:39pm

I think you're getting concentration confused with loading. Restricting pumping hours will mean either pumping rates or duration will increase, not concentration.

Anyway concentration is only part of the story. Total load is what will effect long term ecosystem health and whether it gets there via pumping or groundwater it will still make its way to the marine environment. The only real solution is destruction via heat treatment and you have to ask yourself does the risk justify the cost.

Do you have a copy of the PFAS Management Plan? Can you post a link?

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velocityjohnno commented Saturday, 7 Sep 2019 at 8:36pm

If this is depressing any Sunny Coast locals, be thankful as it could be worse:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-09-06/tempers-flare-over-fukushima-p...

As someone said, tritium's a bitch.

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velocityjohnno commented Saturday, 7 Sep 2019 at 8:46pm

Also let's hear it for Atrazine and certain forestry practises on certain islands :)

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JosephStalin commented Sunday, 8 Sep 2019 at 6:19am

On the news last night councillor Jason Opray was assuring concerned locals it's all good nuffin to worry about, so much so he was practically bathing in a pipeline outlet taking big mouthfuls of the goodness.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 8 Sep 2019 at 8:25am

Qld [Emergency]
Wanted! Top Quality fire fighting water laced with PFAS to fight biggest ever fire.
Urgent! (Need 125 ML / 20 days ) phone 000 for details....
(Will pay top dollar + free pick up)

Message from Acting Premier Jackie:
"Qld is doomed ...No Qldurr has that much PFAS water just lying around their yard!"

Jackie wakes SC Mayor to truck Firefighters & Tankers of PFAS South & don't stop!
Directions: Go straight past the Big Smoke & follow the towering infernos...hurry!
Just skip yer fuckin town meeting & give them all the PFAS water you got! Now...good!

This time next week Jackie & SC Mayor get captain's call knighthoods...Just do it!

Qldurr Kid : "Mummy! My apple tastes really bitter!"
Mum : "Quit whining! You got a free glow worm for show & tell."

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 8 Sep 2019 at 3:32pm

FAQ&A (Factsheet)

file:///C:/Users/Owner/Downloads/SCAEP%20Water%20Release%20Program%20Fact%20Sheet%2027082019%20(4).pdf

SCC : Releasing water to the ocean is the safest most efficient method...
Ocean outfall minimises uncontrolled releases & bio accumulation.
Dr Turner (nc'Uni) No knowledge of Ocean PFAS discharge solution anywhere in Oz.
[Answer/s]:
(1)
Gold Coast Desal Plant 2x filtered GCA PFAS outfall thru the SEQ water network.
SC Airport Pipes 125ML to offshore Tanker by arvo it's pumped into GC desal Pipe.
GC desal filters 133ML PFAS within 24hrs it flows out of SC taps (Cheers!)
SCC/GC/Govt come together & get off their arses then there's yer solution.Win! Win!
Ask! What point in having a desal plant down the road if it can't sort this? (Brainz!)

Simple procedure is a reverse of recent Airport dredging operation...only much easier!
https://www.scec.org.au/sunshine_coast_airport_expansion_project_update_...
(2)
Inpex $37b LNG processing Plant 'Enhanced Evaporation' of PFAS @ Darwin Harbour
PFAS was steamed to transport lighter loads.
Company claims it was within guidelines but were fined $12,600. (ongoing issue!)
https://www.acf.org.au/inpex_slap_on_wrist_fine_for_releasing_toxic_pfas...
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-14/inpex-pfas-environment-animals-at...

Bio Accumulation
It must be contained onsite! Once it leaves the site the whole SEQ is contaminated.
re: Water example...a little bit of GC Airport PFAS Water in all of us!

GCA Coolangatta Creek PFAS escaped into WSR.
Bio accumulation sites Creek Mouth,Kirra Lake,Desal infeed,Beach Flags,Bommie etc.
SC Oceanside has nearer & busier Beach Flags,Ck Mouth,reefs,Island (Reserves)
Once PFAS enters open ecosystem you have NO control of release whatsoever.

SCC : "Water is released gradually to sea for fastest way to secure project timeline.
Once $2.5m pipes go, further stormwater releases will flow into local drains to sea."

tbb:
Tides,waves,weather & nightfall control release-speed & amounts not Flight Times.
Recent foams were unknowingly as bad as PFAS...so that just goes out thru-drains?

*Volume of Water (Measured by Qldurr Standards)
SCC spends $2.5m to dump 125ML of water in 20 days in middle of Qld drought ?
That's just one wasteful Sunny Coast business' dumps = 6.5ML of water / day
(Whole of City of Stanthorpe survives on one fifth of that = 1.2ML/day)
125ML of bathing quality water lasts Stanthorpe 100 days & saves SCC $2.5m

*Water Quality -Nation Environmental Management Plan (fellow Qldurr levels).
SCC : 'Pipeline water release' is fine for Showering & [email protected] 200x under NEMP
[ VOTE ]
(1)SC selfishly dumps precious water & wears the worst ever City waste tag forever.
(2)SC saves Stanthorpe with water for bathing & fighting fires.(Wins best city award)
Clue: Stanthorpe have no clear water nor sun, so not real fussy with a frothy brew.

Anyhow! Plenty of solutions for Sunny Coast PFAS (Oceanfall was never an option!)
Book a day spa @ GC Desal for PFAS Detox... it won't hurt!

GC Desal Plant stood up tbb's family & owes us a free trial...
Saved it for a special occasion...all yours Sunny Coast...yeah! yeah! your welcome!
Got Sunny Coast Mayor a booking for Sat 19th/Oct 2019. (Just say yes!) No-Joke!

Goldie basherz are obligated to package a free surf safari for SC Mayor's entourage...

https://www.eventbrite.com.au/e/gold-coast-open-house-2019-gold-coast-de...

Surf World guided tour is for swellnet crew...check with AndyM (sorry mate)
https://goldcoastopenhouse.com.au/building/surf-world-gold-coast/

Gold Coast Sporting Hall of Fame (Mostly a Surf thang)
https://goldcoastopenhouse.com.au/building/gold-coast-sporting-hall-of-f...

Inside the TOS Seaway Pumphouse (turn it up tbb...is that for real?)
https://goldcoastopenhouse.com.au/building/gold-coast-sand-bypass-system...

Southport Bathing Pavillion (Ye olde Guided Tour)
https://goldcoastopenhouse.com.au/building/southport-bathing-pavilion-2/

Sunday treat...Everybody Happy!

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morg commented Tuesday, 10 Sep 2019 at 2:14pm

After I read this article and a bit of research, I decided that pumping this stuff out into the ocean and diluting the problem isn't right, and that something needs to be done to stop it. So then it was game on.

To my (pleasant) surprise, last Friday I got a phone call from Ewan Bell, at Queensland's Department of Environment and Science. He was very informative and keen to discuss PFAS and the situation on the Sunny Coast etc. I still have an issue with pumping contaminated liquids into the ocean however in this particular instance the contamination level is lower than the acceptable level for drinking water, so its ok (yes that is up for debate, however the reality is that the stuff your drinking could have a higher level of PFAS than what is to be pumped into the ocean). PFAS is a growing problem, and it won't be ok to just pump or dump it from other areas that have higher concentrations levels.

If your interested or concerned, google him and give him a call.

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JosephStalin commented Tuesday, 10 Sep 2019 at 4:35pm

The deadly fires evacuating whole communities destroying homes 10kms north could use some of this immediately, it'd be a win win situation or maybe a lose lose depending on who you talk to of course.

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Feralkook commented Thursday, 12 Sep 2019 at 7:47pm

Not really, PFAS was not made for bushfires it's other name is Aqueous Free Forming Foam,designed suppress and extinguish fuel fires. It forms a film over the top of the burning liquid smothering the fire and preventing secondary ignition, it was really effective at that. Not much chop for a bushfire.

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truebluebasher commented Tuesday, 10 Sep 2019 at 5:27pm

Good work morg...tbb likewise made some calls.
Coolum & North Shore Coast Care re : swellnet salutes 'Leigh'
http://coolumcoastcare.org.au/

Maroochy Waterwatch re: swellnet salutes 'Chelsea'
https://www.maroochycatchmentcentre.org.au/

All dislike ocean dump failure & are aware of PFAS water value in Fires & drought.
All were interested in GC desal filtering past PFAS outbreaks...just ship it to Goldie!

Qldurrz are aware that a Whale caught in nets now gets beamed live as World News.
Gold Coast rightly wears the shame from world media.

Qld Govt is also copping a blast for High Court defence of non release drum lines.
Decision pending.

Today we discussed S'Coast Whales,Dolphins,Turtles being trapped in lines or hooks.
Sunny Coast hoses PFAS over trapped dying creatures...(Is it dead yet...just kick it!)
Most horrid crime would be beamed worldwide & Sunny Coast goes straight to hell.

How could Dept of Environment score that A+ (We Qldurrz are all monsters now!)

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Sir Abacus Bent commented Wednesday, 11 Sep 2019 at 12:55pm

Sir Abacus Reviews last night’s PFAS meeting at Maroochy RSL.

In a nutshell.

ManAirport introduces a fake news report from Northern Territory, ‘ Dead turtles in fish nets are not dying from PFAS” he says with imagined profundity. “Wow, ” the crowd murmurs, catching the insult between the eyes. It proves to be the harbinger of a long and fruitless night.

For 2 1/2 hours pro- dump presenters bounce between it’s poison and it’s not poison and we never do find out why such remarkably clean water needs to be dispersed in our ocean.

There is a chart showing PFAS research on the rise, implying settled science, obliterating the precautionary principle? A horseshit argument that any first year science student could refute.

At one stage, Airport man slips into Liberal Jobsen Growth dot points, “Irrelevant!” shout the many. Just bloody weird.

We’ve it rock bottom.

But no, Man from Qld Dept of Environment and Adani expounding on the dearth of biota where the poison- not- poison is to be dumped. In perfect allegiance to rabid neo-liberalism and bad science he assumes the children who surf there are not significant biota. Eye rolls spread across the room. No words, no pictures for the blind.

Now we’ve hit rock bottom!

Finally, enlightenment! Councillor Who Drinks PFAS takes the stage. He tells us he drank it to no ill effect but then can’t remember why he and other Crs voted for this behind closes doors just a few days ago. Does PFAS ingestion result in the plummeting of one’s IQ to that of a fence post or do we have the chicken before the egg? We definitely have an egg.

My mind screams, “Enough!”

I try to sneak out the door, the last words I hear are from Cr PFAS , and I kid you not, he said this, “ The water is 200 times cleaner than drinking water.” Perhaps, it was the PFAS speaking.

Democracy, community and the earth died a little bit more last night.

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truebluebasher commented Wednesday, 11 Sep 2019 at 2:15pm

Wave of the Day ~~~~^~~~/(`~~~/(C...[ Sir AB )
Never has no one ever surfed a town meeting with such reserved civility...The Horror!
Sir Abacus Bent relays the Town's clean bill of health to The Mayor of Mt Olympus.

Sunny Coast can just as easy re-brand fire fighting foam as a summer thirst quencher.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrkJ5AxYo_Y

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Jnrjep commented Wednesday, 11 Sep 2019 at 5:16pm

Hey Vic local more vico transplants live on sunny coast than qld born locals especially Nossa

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JosephStalin commented Thursday, 12 Sep 2019 at 11:09am

She's just still sooking about the federal election

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sophie.kate commented Wednesday, 11 Sep 2019 at 8:33pm

Hey All,
For everyone concerned about the PFAS dump, please show your support by following this FB page I've started. We need groundswell action to show council that we're not happy with their decision. It's the only way it's going to get it stopped and for them to consider alternatives more thoroughly.
Thanks heaps in advance,
Sophie
https://www.facebook.com/sunshinecoastcouncilpfasdumpaustralia

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Feralkook commented Thursday, 12 Sep 2019 at 7:58pm

Has a "vote of no confidence in SC Council" been considered. Even very public calls on social media, posting on SCC social media pages calling them out. Can sway a lot of people in the right direction.

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truebluebasher commented Sunday, 15 Sep 2019 at 11:35pm

Stoked to welcome & work alongside our swellnet sisters, great dedication by all.
Never read better comments! No matter what outcome, be proud we did our best.
Nothing short of a great leap forward for #1 swellnet crew. Legends! Take a bow!
Crew are here to back Sunny Coast 100%...just say the word!

Party Wave of the Day ~~~~^~~~/(`~~~/(C`...[ crew )
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* @ tbb war cry to old school Sunny Coast Punks on yer Wavepool site
https://www.swellnet.com/forums/surfing-reef-designs/458005
Need yer help with Australian History of Punk..phone tristan.clark.. 0402306569
Thanx crew...keep up the fight...
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Remigogo commented Thursday, 12 Sep 2019 at 10:29pm

Millions of dollars wasted by government each day.

Budget reductions on common cents.

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oceans11 commented Friday, 13 Sep 2019 at 10:28am

Dumping PFAS into the ocean is unacceptable and a contradiction to SCCC jumping on board the environmental /global warming band wagon, offering lip service depending on their agenda.
This initial pumping program is only the start, as the construction of the $2.5 mil.pipeline into the ocean would not be for a short term pump, but ongoing pumping as required.
As a side note to this:- I have fished the reefs from Coolum to Noosa extensively over the past 20 years and all 3 times I fished a small reef 300-400m directly offshore from the Castaways Beach sewerage treatment plant ( Burgess Creek) that discharges treated, chemical smelling water across the beach and into the sea.Each fishing trip, to this reef, I have caught resident reef fish with large ulcers (sizes of 50 cent coin) over their bodies.I have not experienced this nor seen fish in this state of health on any other reefs on the Sunshine Coast.