Watch: Von Froth // Kandui

Stu Nettle
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Bad timing:

Launching a new surf blog just weeks before COVID forced everyone, even cashed-up freesurfers and their obligatory cameramen, into lockdown.

Good timing:

The brake and release of double-hand drags through triple overhead Kandui drainers.

Fortunately, Mr von Rupp has plenty of footy in his back catalogue to fill out his series. Some of it A-grade material like this Kandui session from way back in 2017.

Skip the first two mins of talking and hook in.

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zenagain commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 12:52pm

The barrell at around 4:40 was nuts.

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ringmaster commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 1:05pm

That wave is double black by Indo standards and he makes it look soooo easy!

You can really get fucked up out there.

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memlasurf commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 4:13pm

Scared the shit out of me. Beyond my pay grade at that size you really need to be semi pro to not get hurt out there.

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simba commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 1:37pm

pretty sure that was mick cambell and girlfriend in there as well?

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Craig commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 1:44pm

Yep.

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memlasurf commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 4:12pm

AKA the ginger ninga although looks rather shiny on top now. Man can surf.

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tango commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 4:23pm

What a mad wave. Been there a few times but never had the balls to go dance with Mama Kandui.

Bit less chit chat wouldn't go astray. Rather listen to the froth coming from the boats in the channel anyday.

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freeride76 commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 5:39pm

sick, saw a wave of one of my pals Christian Enns.
go ennzo

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Roystein commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 5:55pm

So good
I like the double black analogy. Sums it up well
I don’t mind this von rupp bloke

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mugofsunshine commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 6:13pm

He does a good Trump impression.

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indo-dreaming commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 6:29pm

I never thought about this before but interesting how over time the name has evolved from "No kandui" To "Kandui"

I wonder if the name change has been a conscious thing as it became more surfed or the "No" has just dropped out of favour from general laziness as we humans often shorten words.

Originally I believe it was called "No Kandui" as most looked at it and say it as too fast and heavy.

Please Stunet give me an ignore button for Talking Turkey, Shatners Basoon, Dale Cooper, Factotum, Pupkin, and any new fake profile he decides to create.

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Billyw commented Monday, 22 Jun 2020 at 10:34pm

pretty sure (from solid sources) that is has always been known as Kandui or Kandui left. the Nokandui thing came from a bunch of pros on a surf mag trip and then the surf media rammed it down our throats so the name stuck. no one up there who has any clout refers to it as Nokandui.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 8:32am

Same. I always thought it was simply a play on words. Kandui the original, Nokandui the nickname, probably after a big swell, the same way Ours turns into Yours.

Also, despite being one of the best lefts in the world, it seemed to take a while for the rest of the world to discover Kandui. Waves like Maccas, HTs, even Rifles, were targeted early in the piece, yet Kandui was slow to warm up.

Ozzie Wright looooooong barrel from 2006:

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 8:38am

Having never been there but I always thought the right was Kandui and the left was No-Kandui, but still a play on words of course.

Despite that, it would have to be one of the most photogenic waves going imo.

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 10:26am

Yep 100% Zen that's my take on it.

My understanding is in the early days Rifles was known by many as Kandui because although fast and with punch it was still approachable by most surfers when not too big.

Even in the Wave rider Indonesia little book guide from about 2005 it list Riffles then Kandui in brackets indicating this and also list the left as No Kandui, these names & descriptions would have come from one of the charter boat operators.

I remember when the book came out, despite the focus on the Mentawais for a decade with video's and magazines apart from Ht's and Macca's etc even then there wasn't too much written info anywhere even online, i remember being kind of blown away that this book was putting exact X's on maps and conditions waves worked in.

Also noting Kandui resort on that side of the island was also built about 2005, not that that means much as the island is often called Kandui island.

In time Kandui lost favour and Riffles became the go to name as often happens.

While i believe the Left back then was called No Kandui as although a similar wave is heavier and less approachable by most and then seemed to just become Kandui

But i could be wrong thats just my understanding of things.

BTW. All those waves originally had lot of different names depending on the charter boat and then latter resorts, for instance Wave Park was the first camp in the Mentawais and they still call some waves by different names that have never caught on, kind of a bit sad in way as Christie kind of pioneered a lot of those waves that charter boats never bothered with back then.

It seems the names that become popular are normally the ones that get mentioned by media, magazines, video etc or possibly just the better names.

I reckon there would be a good book in the whole history of those islands non surfing and surfing, an intro chapter about the history of local people then Dutch, then the whole discovery of the Mentawais by surfers, and how waves got there names and what other waves were known by and just how things have developed. (base it on wide number of accounts ad interview style in parts, not just one person)

If it's not done within the next twenty years talking to early land guys, original charter boat guys, first land camps, and locals, a lot of that info and history could be forgotten or lost, sae goes for the pics.

I wish my written english skills were better, id tackle it myself and seek out all the stories and early pics.

Ive heard a few different stories from skippers etc on how waves got their names, and some of the first charter boat guys actually started surfing the mentawais by land before they ended up getting involved in the business side off things.

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 10:43am

Have a go Indo, you just need someone to edit and tidy up the grammar.

Look at VicLocal. He writes his stuff then a trained monkey re-writes it and corrects his mistakes. Of course the monkey has a limited vocabulary, but it's pretty much the same old thing over and over with ol' Vic, so it isn't too taxing on the monkey.

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Jamyardy commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 2:05pm

There was a vid that came out around 20 odd years ago, forget what its called, but there was section in it where they (pros or semi pros) were on the boat, watching Kandui, calling it Kandui, then No Kandui, seem to be a play on words as suggested above as it was so fast or gnarly to surf at size,. I cant remember if they went out and tried or not (I don't think so from memory), In this write up they claim Kandui wasn't surfed before 2001 ????

https://www.surfertoday.com/surf-movies/op-pro-mentawai-islands-2001

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 4:59pm

Im pretty sure it was surfed before that comp in 2001, but yeah i don't think it was surfed as often, hence why i thought it was called No Kandui, it's like Green bush it was known by most charter boat operators for a long time but charter boats didn't take guest there because of the risk factor then Young Guns 2 kind of blew it up, a lot of these waves are deceptively approachable because of their perfectio , but in reality they are quite dangerous and even now if you were seriously injured you are still far from anywhere, that remoteness adds another level to things, opposed to say Padang Padang in Bali still a wave with a lot of bite, but if something did happen at least there is a decent level of medical care not far away.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 11:10am

Is there no chance Kandui is a local name, same as Plengkung?

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 12:17pm

I thought it was Noplengkung?

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stunet commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 12:22pm

ha ha ha

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Craig commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 2:09pm

Haha.

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ojackojacko commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 5:20pm

10/10 zen :)))

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 4:20pm

hmm i dont think its a local name but you never know, the islands name is Karangmajat and other two little islands nearby have names starting with P.

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H2O commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 12:10pm

Absolutely have a crack Indo . Love you comments on here about the region. Get Blowin to ghost write for you. Plenty on here with that talent. Do it myself if I had time away from work.

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 12:15pm

I think it would be an interesting read. I'd buy it.

I could help you ghost write it. That's the business I'm in. Well I'm in the translation business, but if you made it into a movie and it needs subtitles- I'm your man.

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 4:48pm

Ha ha thanks.

I dont know if you remember that idea i brought up once ive had of traveling the whole outer island chain in a long boat from south to north, visiting villages etc on the way, and obviously surfing etc

The two ideas would actually combine very well, drop in at villages talking to the elders about when they firsts saw surfers or first surfers that stayed and any good stories, do recorded interviews, which the longer versions could become written form for a book, and then some little snippet of interviews could be included in a doco along with surfing.

Ive actually got a mate that speaks perfect Bahasa Indonesia and is a film maker has some crazy expensive cameras, he is well connected with Indo rippers too, i might have to throw the idea at him, at least plant the seed.

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H2O commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 12:33pm

There you go Indo- no excuses. This is how social media SHOULD work. 120 minutes from idea to resourced (well nearly) pilot.

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indo-dreaming commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 4:21pm

ha ha maybe one day

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Clarky81 commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 1:42pm

There are some great names around there - Fourbobs, John Candy left, Beng Bengs, Burger World

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gingeryeti commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 4:08pm

How does it compare to a big day at Speedies?

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goofyfoot commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 7:48pm

I haven't surfed Kandui but it looks like it's heavier, less predictable and possibly shallower with a fucekd up end section?

Oh and holds bigger size?

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udo commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 8:18pm

Remember that Nate Behl Billy Kemper Koa Rothman NoKandui footage 2015 Century swell...Wild Shit !

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zenagain commented Tuesday, 23 Jun 2020 at 8:48pm

Shit yeah!

Craig Ando on that bomb. Burned into my memory.

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Mcface commented Wednesday, 24 Jun 2020 at 9:18am

And he did it on a 5'6 hypto krypto. I think Hayden Cox owes Ando for that one as it turned into one of the most hyped surfboards out there for a few years (its good from 2ft - 12ft allegedly)

Generally the waves in the ments look deceptively perfect but Kandui just seems like a next level wave in terms of heaviness and consequence. Great viewing in the above vid (minus the talking).

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prothero commented Wednesday, 24 Jun 2020 at 9:44am

...and I read on some site guys saying Andos surfing on that line was 'boring' !....hey on waves of consequence ie Camel at tombstones , I prefer the lines that the guys on longer boards take....but that wave at Kandui, fuck that was something else.A work of art under intense pressure. It was also refreshing that Ando said he was shitting himself out there and it took him an hour to get a wave.

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