Qualification: Crunching the numbers before the World Cup

Stu Nettle
Form Guide

Over the weekend the penultimate comp of the Qualification Series (QS) finished. Not only was the Hawaiian Pro the second last comp of the year, it was also the second last chance to get big points; there are only five 10,000 point comps on the QS and the Hawaiian Pro and the upcoming World Cup are two of them.

As usual, the top ten surfers of the QS will jump up to the 2019 Championship Tour, but if a top ten surfer has also qualified on the CT then the next QS surfer-  i.e the 11th surfer - will get the spot. If two surfers double qualify then the 12th, three surfers double qualify then the 13th etc.

The cut off for qualification changes year by year. Last year it was relatively low at 16,040, the year before that 18,750, and in 2015 it was 20,450.

This year is shaping up to be another low qualifying year. WSL numbers guy Al Hunt has pegged it as somewhere between 15,000 and 17,000.

Using the top number, 17,000, then there are already seven surfers qualified:

Two of those surfers, Igarashi and Colapinto, will double qualify which opens up the field (the DQs also partly explain the lower cut off mark this year).

The next group of surfers need a moderate result to make the cut. All of them are holding decent points down to their fifth best result so they'll need to get 17th (2,200) or higher just to improve their overall points. Keep in mind that if they don't improve their standings then they'll be overtaken.

Interestingly, all of them are ex-CTers looking to requalify.

From here south is where things get desperate. These are the surfers that need a big result to make it, at the upper end a 9th place (3,800 points) might just get them over the line, but for all of them a 5th place (5,300) or higher is required to lock it off.

Of course with so many points on offer for making the Final - 1st 10,000, 2nd 8,000, 3rd 6,500, 4th 6,300 - there's always a chance of big jumps up the ratings. For instance, Mateus Herdy jumped 49 places to 12th for his second place finish on the weekend.

So while anyone in the top 50 could win the World Cup and collect enough points to qualify, there'll only ever be one or two big movers at best.

The other point of interest is that there are fewer low end CT surfers fighting for qualification than past years. Jesse Mendes is the highest ranked surfer outside of the CT top 22, and he's in 13th on the QS.

There may be a late surge but many struggling CT surfers have left their QS charge too late.

Check the full QS rankings here.

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Blowin commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 1:21pm

Ever thought to interview Al Hunt ?

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stunet commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 1:27pm

No, but I imagine he'd a be a good interviewee.

When I was editing Kurungabaa we ran a story on his surf magazine collection (surf magazine addiction?). That was an enjoyable read. Written by Paul Scott from memory.

Here's Al's website: http://allsurfmagazines.com/

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Lanky Dean commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 2:47pm

Wow that's a crazy collection!

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Pops commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 1:59pm

Would Mikey Wright have enough points from all his CT wildcard slots to qualify?

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stunet commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 2:02pm

Yeah, he's in the CT fairly easily. Currently sitting 12th and approx 10,000 points ahead of the top 22 cut off mark.

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Pops commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 2:09pm

Awesome. The tour needs a bit of personality!

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johnson commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 2:42pm

Worth noting that Griffin Colapinto is likely going to miss Pipe due to injury. Currently sitting at 20th on the CT, its a high possibility he'll have to fall back on his QS placing. Whoever comes 12th on the WQS will probably not want to buy Griffin a beer any time soon.

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stunet commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 2:55pm

Good point.

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lost commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 10:24pm

That's what the injury wild card is for - not for a flog like Jelly who won't commit to surfing all the events anyway.

knB

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Ensea commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 12:27am

Kelly deserves injury wildcard. All these sooks whinging about kelly this kelly that. That’s one fucked up foot he got

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crg commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 2:57pm

Jack Robbo to win Sunset and end up with 16,940 points...and just make the cut.
Is there a surf fan out there who doesn't want this to happen?

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Island Bay commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 3:42pm

Ricardo, Parko, O'neill Massin and Jack Robbo in the final at Sunset, please.

Jack to win it and qualify, Ricardo second to improve his CT '19 seed, Joel third cementing his Triple Crown position.

Too much to ask?

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.cylinders commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 3:55pm

Not at all, I think just about every surf fan in the southern hemisphere would be happy with that.

Stoked for Ric, super positive family fella deserves another crack.

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Bnkref commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 5:02pm

Given that most of Brazil is in the Southern Hemisphere, I'm not sure you'd get everyone on board for that scenario. I'd like to see it though...

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rightfootfwd commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 5:09pm

yep, I thought that Ricardo Christie surfed and competed better than his results showed in his last CT stint - he either matched up against an opponent who was having a dream day or paid dearly for rookie strategy errors, but his surfing was tight.

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stunet commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:10pm

Totally agree. While not as hifi as the lightweights he wasn't let down by his surfing, just little strategic slips that left him relying on luck.

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mick-free commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 6:34pm

His Jbay heat was epic against Parko who surfed like a god. Ric be e a good punt to win a few heats second time round. Go the Kiwis!

Mick Free FIFOFOMO

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stunet commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 7:23pm

Ric would do well to watch what Wade Carmichael did right this year. Similar surfers, same strengths, same weaknesses.

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lost commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 10:27pm

Sounds good. Just add Jelly Slater to go out in the first round, blame the judges then take the stage to say he help all four and then announce he is going to compete until 2030 - when he feels like and only if the waves are really really good.

knB

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Ensea commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 12:30am

Sounds like some kelly haters on here haha. I smell jealousy about smelly skaters ability to do what’s best for him

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Spuddups commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 4:16pm

I'd love to see Parko take out the triple crown again. There's too many dudes with the "air poo-stance" on the tour at the moment. Parko's style on the other hand never gets old. As for Ricardo qualifying again, there's nothing quite like watching a bid dude lay down some power carves. I can't wait to see him at Bells and J-Bay. Hopefully Margs is still on.

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Bnkref commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 4:50pm

Parko for the triple crown and J Wilson for the world title going head to head with Parko in the final at pumping Pipe.

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Westofthelake commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:43pm

For sure! I'd vote for that.

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lost commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 10:28pm

100% yes give us that Huey

knB

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blindboy commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 4:52pm

Al Hunt on Swellnet? I'll believe it when I see it ........

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Blowin commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 5:55pm

Is that cryptic , BB ?

If he was on here , I could think of one person who would fit the mental profile I have of the man .

One of my favourite posters !

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blindboy commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 6:58pm

Not cryptic Blowin. I wish Stu luck if he goes there. I wouldn't.

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Blowin commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:10pm

Is he not a fan of the Swellnet carry on ?

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blindboy commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:32pm

Put it this way, he still hasn't forgiven me for comments I made 40 years ago. So I suspect Swellnet's analysis of WSL figures may have upset him ...... but he does share Stu's enthusiasm for magazines, so maybe.

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Island Bay commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 5:48pm

Thanks for the article, Stu.
Where did you get the figures from? I've been trying find more info the last few days, and looked up Al Hunt, but without luck.

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stunet commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:14pm

Which figures IB? The predicted cut off...?

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Island Bay commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 4:01am

Yes, sorry. The predicted cut off.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 7:05am

That's from Al. Just emailed him, as I always do at this time of year, and he replied with his assumed cut off.

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deckstrus commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 5:57pm

Mikey Wright also qualifies through his CT points right?
And geez, love to see Jack Robbo make it on tour

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stunet commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 5:58pm

Yep, he's qualified easily. Sitting in 12th, approx 10,000 points above 23rd place (being CT cut off)

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Legrope commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 1:28am

Hey Stu, Thanks for everything you input. I can't keep away from the site. Just wondering what your profile picture is. Me and a few mates have been debating and no one knows. Very mysterious. Looks like a dude holding a katana sword??

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blackers commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 7:40am

I think you may find the answer if you Google "London Calling" by the Clash.

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stunet commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 7:53am

Blackers is on it...

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Legrope commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 2:20pm

Thanks fellas. That is so satisfying to now know the answer.

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zenagain commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:13pm

i'd like to see Parko take out the triple crown and see Ricardo back on tour.

i'd also like to see Ethan Ewing get another crack at the CT.

Watashi wa metabo oyagi desu.

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goofyfoot commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:14pm

Am I the only one who’d rather see Jack Robbo free surfing heavy tubes around the world than grovelling on the tour?

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lostdoggy commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:34pm

With wildcards to all the heavy wave events and taking down all the seeds.

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crg commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:35pm

I'm half with you GF...I'd also like to see him towel everyone up at maxing North Point, Chopes and Pipe too.

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goofyfoot commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 9:55pm

Yeah that would be good viewing

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Derrick commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 7:46pm

My wild wildcard is Donny Atkinson to win in big Sunset to bookend his CT rookie of the year finish when he possibly should have been given an injury wildcard anyways. But then I don’t know a heck of alot, just speculamacating.

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Gary G commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 9:33pm

Gary can't help but think that Kelly may have left his qualification run on the QS a little too late to earn a slot on next year's tour

You and me, Gary, ain’t nothing but mammals so let’s do it* like they do it on the aerobics channel

*faceys

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Ensea commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 12:34am

They’re giving kelly injury wildcard for sure. Does anyone remember AI getting wildcards to every event after his little drug binge break? Even if he doesn’t get injury wildcard they should give him a wildcard to any event he wants. Who doesn’t like watching the king surf?

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crg commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 3:19pm

"Who doesn’t like watching the king surf?"
Me.
Not anymore.
Not in a contest.

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eastcoastbuoy commented Monday, 19 Nov 2018 at 9:51pm

Yeah Ricardo!! Mahia Massive!

eastcoastbuoy

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Legrope commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 1:22am

Can anyone explain how Jack Robbo got a 13th place and 3600 points and Jake Marshall got a 9th place and 3800 points when Jack was third and Jake was 4th after an interference? Weird. Jack is now sitting on 7540 points and a win at Sunset should hopefully see him qualify. He's won it before. Go WA lad.

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wally commented Tuesday, 20 Nov 2018 at 10:37am

They fixed it. Jack now 9th and Jake 13th. Maybe someone read your post.

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Laundromat commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 8:28am

Ricardo for the win

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Baconeater commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 10:13am

Is it just me, or does Wilko need to have a blinder at Pipe to avoid heading back to the QS grind

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stunet commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 10:27am

Not just you. There's a good chance Wilko will be joining Mick and Mason on the Search next year.

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tidak_bagus commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 10:39am

So hypothetically if Parko wins pipe and gets into the top 22 and retires, do they take an extra QS or and extra CT?

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belly commented Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 8:40am

Great question - imo should be a CT, calling Stu?

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Garryh commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 10:50am

Good to see a Kiwi in there! How long has it been since another Kiwi was in there?

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Island Bay commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 10:54am

Maz Quinn 2001. Ric Christie 2015.

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crg commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 3:21pm

Any other young kids coming through IB? Other than Billy who came sort of close a few times but never really threatened.

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Island Bay commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 5:04pm

Maybe Kehu Butler:
https://vimeo.com/222485844

Pretty powerful for his age.

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Spuddups commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 7:29pm

Yep, looks like that dude has the goods. The only problem is that there are about 400 other surfers in the world surfing to that standard at the moment. The advantage Ricardo has is that his power-game is well suited to Haleiwa and Sunset, so he gets a good crack at qualification at the end of each year.
I'm hoping they give Michael February a wild-card. He's the heir apparent to Parko in the style stakes. Kind of a modern day Buttons I reckon. Pretty much my favourite surfer on the tour at the moment.

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Island Bay commented Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 4:02am

I like watching Michael February freesurfing, but he's hopelessly out of his league on the CT. Unique style, though.

Parko is deceptively powerful, and has perfect technique.

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Bshop_feez commented Wednesday, 21 Nov 2018 at 8:26pm

Early Christmas wish list:
Parko for triple crown
Jack Robbo to qualify

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SurfEd commented Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 12:00pm

Stoked to see Ricardo back on the CT, and hoping for a strong Sunset result to bump his seeding up. He'll do well next year. Btw Stu, as a reporter/editor, I'm used to see our material being re-purposed and re-used by other publications but thought you might be interested in this piece out today - look familiar? https://www.tracksmag.com.au/news/who-needs-what-to-qualify-for-the-2019...

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lostdoggy commented Thursday, 22 Nov 2018 at 12:23pm

Alex unWorkmanlike