Vegan life is woke. I love vegans.

Somewhat ironic that Roadkill would be vegan ;-)

Hope those smart aleck young scum copped the hiding they deserved.

Pick your targets...

I’m currently clearing the bush on the far right side of this photo to expand a sheep farm. Acres and acres, tree after tree, month after month. Also clearing more land to grow the grains to feed the sheep. I love the lamb produced on this farm, the rack is my favourite but the legs are good too. So sweet

But you’re absolutely right, vegans are woke

Cancer free too. Incredible! ;)

I reckon people are meant to eat meat. It’s kind of silly to suggest we aren’t after we’ve been eating meat since we crawled out of the ocean as mudskipper type beings. Pretty sure we were eating meat a lot longer than that too.

The problem is that now a lot of humans eat way too much meat, it’s mostly inappropriate meat for their location and there’s a shit load of waste. It’s worth watching that Season 7 of alone to see how humans used to live and comparing it with the way humans now eat like kings 24/7.

The land clearing in that photo above may be a good employment wicket but it’s pretty disgraceful. The neighbour a few houses up is a rickety old piss head who’s only got a couple of years left in him but he’s still hell bent on clearing trees around his place to improve his water views. He’s even trying to sneaky clear trees not on his land which I’m not too stoked about. He was pointing to a certain tree which is about 50 metres from his boundary towards my place and claiming he’d get some rogue tree loppers to take it down. Last night I heard a koala barking and went out this morning to look for it. There it is peacefully parked up in a fork on the very tree he wants to cut down. There’s fuck all koalas left and this clown wants to destroy its home so he doesn’t have to step two paces on his deck to see the water he never swims in.

Whoa….bit of a sidetrack there.

Meat is damn tasty. I don’t eat mammals or birds anymore but I can still remember exactly what they taste like….delicious.

Bacon…..holy fuck. Chicken schnitzel…..hmmm.

Blowin wrote:

Whoa….bit of a sidetrack there.

Meat is damn tasty. I don’t eat mammals or birds anymore but I can still remember exactly what they taste like….delicious.

Bacon…..holy fuck. Chicken schnitzel…..hmmm.

Hmmm so you only eat fish or seafood?

Cows, sheep, pigs are mammals and chickens are obviously birds.

I dont care what people eat, but cant stand other people telling others how to live like vegans often do.

You only have to watch something like Alone to realise how important meat is too humans, if you tried to just live off berries and fungi etc on Alone you would die quite quickly.

But yeah most of us eat more meat than we need too and i don't mind vegan food some of it's real nice.

I think vegans miss out a lot when they travel too, food to me is a big part of experiencing a culture and the majority of main dishes from any country are meat based or meat products based.

I will never forget the time i had to explain to my friends in the Telos that one guest was vegan and didnt eat meat not even eggs or fish, the concept was so foreign to them they were utterly confused and couldn't understand why, even now years latter its hard for them to understand it.

I reckon we are meant to eat it too, our bodies are conditioned for it. This is a lockdown gig, but I don’t feel bad for doing it, thats on the customer

I’ve met a few vegans and all of them love the taste too, they miss it. They are making a sacrifice for the greater good

I was just having fun pointing out the irony that RK will rip into anti vaxxers in one breath for not not making a sacrifice for the greater good, and then rip into vegans with his next breath who are making a sacrifice, a big life long one, for the greater good. A vegan would see him like he sees an anti vaxxer

It smacks of bullying and that’s what I don’t like. But carry on, it’s entertaining

I’m currently clearing the bush on the far right side of this photo to expand a sheep farm. Acres and acres, tree after tree, month after month. Also clearing more land to grow the grains to feed the sheep.”

This makes me feel uncomfortable, that bush land looks fucking beautiful.
I can’t tell if you’re joking or not?

It makes vegans feel uncomfortable GF.
That’s why they're vegans

Consider me your self awareness coach

Anyway, footy’s on. Have a good night

shoredump wrote:

It makes vegans feel uncomfortable GF.
That’s why they're vegans

Consider me your self awareness coach

Anyway, footy’s on. Have a good night

Huh? I’m not a vegan by any means

"I don't care what people eat, but cant stand other people telling others how to live like vegans often do." This is followed by 4 paragraphs of Indo-Dreaming telling vegans they are wrong.
Comedy gold Indo.

Vic Local wrote:

"I don't care what people eat, but cant stand other people telling others how to live like vegans often do." This is followed by 4 paragraphs of Indo-Dreaming telling vegans they are wrong.
Comedy gold Indo.

Um maybe you need read my comment again, im not telling anyone how to live, im just giving my opinion on the vegan diet, there is quite a difference.

Many vegans though (not all) are almost like super religious people telling you how bad you are for eating meat and that you must stop eating meat because it's cruel and harming the planet etc.

Im not telling vegans they should start eating meat, i dont care if they eat meat or not.

There has never been a vegan culture in the history of the human animal.

which shows you what a luxury of the Agricultural Age it is.......having enough access to ample processed plant food has never been experienced by any other culture.

If you genuinely didn't care what people eat, you wouldn't be posting your anti-vegan opinions.
"Many vegans though (not all) are almost like super religious people telling you..." Really mate,? what a ridiculous statement. How do you tell who's a vegan and who isn't? Is there a secret handshake or something. I'm tipping you come across plenty of vegans who don't tell you what to eat, and you wouldn't have a clue they were vegans.
One thing conservative people really like to do is generalise.

Reading this as I finish the last of some slow cooked ribs off the webber ,, half time snack...
ahhh 'vegan booty', that girl is truly out there. That clip is pretty mild compared to some of the stunts she's pulled.

I disagree with the many vegans are super religious telling you how bad you are etc.

Research in 2020 has found 2.5 million aussies don’t eat meat. 12.5%

Many are vego not vegan, but unless you live on you tube and not in the real world, the vast majority are normal balanced professional adults within our society who are making a sacrifice for their health and the greater good of the planet. Like it or not I am clearing that land so we can get a cutlet to your plate this summer. That’s the cost of red meat.
It’s disgraceful isn’t it. We personally eat very little, our daughter went vego for 7 years but found it hard to sustain and gave it up 2 years ago. We were obviously happy as concerned for her health, it was a lot of work getting everything necessary into the diet. We can now eat a bit more but it’s only once or twice a week.

The point I was trying to make is how silly the whole vegan bashing thing is, as they are just being healthy and making sacrifices for the environment.

Videos like up the top of this page are outliers. I agree they are over the top but young / immature yeah?

2.5 mil Aussies don’t do that. You would know a few

freeride vegan diets have a long history in India associated with a variety of religions.

"The point I was trying to make is how silly the whole vegan bashing thing is, as they are just being healthy and making sacrifices for the environment."
Kinda like people who ride bikes, and I'm tipping the vegan bashers get triggered by riders too.

Are you a bike riding vegan VL?

Ha ha , yeah that environmental warrior on the pushy possibly owns a V8 Landcruiser to do the shopping in , and doesn't ride for reasons other than for exercise and socialising , Not sure about that comparison, Sacrifices ? That's questionable..
I'm making sacrifices too by leaving more veg on the supermarket shelves for those who desire it, and they're not taxing the best cuts before I get there .. It's win/win ..Each to their own.

Having just watched the video, a few comments. The woman involved was perhaps late teens, an age when people are still likely to make poor decisions, like the one she made. When she first entered the ring, the animals appeared to be well controlled by their handlers so while the incident was an irritation, at that time it posed no threat to man or beast. Had cooler heads prevailed she could have had her say and caused no more than a slight delay to proceedings and the legal issues could have been sorted out by the local police. Instead, Mr Redface Boofhead, by grabbing the young woman creates a risk of injury to the woman, himself and the various others who joined in the melee as well as the risk that the animals would become disturbed and injure themselves or one of their handlers. Having had long experience of dealing with young people making bad decisions let me suggest that a cool head nearly always brings a happier ending for all concerned and that responsibility rests with the older people involved.

Eat a bit of meat and don't mind riding my bike to do errands around town and get a bit of exercise. I get kind of sick of the mouth breathers in cars who think they own the road and just can't handle anyone who chooses a more environmentally friendly and healthier mode of transport.
I get the feeling the "Get off the road ya lycra poof" types also get really upset when someone just orders a salad. They probably hate microbrew beer too.

You might want to check out her latest youtube vid , not going to post a link here , It's way, way out there. She has a long history of being a total nutjob and a penchant for pulling completely disruptive acts. . They would have been aware of that and were having none of it.

Vic Local wrote:

If you genuinely didn't care what people eat, you wouldn't be posting your anti-vegan opinions.
"Many vegans though (not all) are almost like super religious people telling you..." Really mate,? what a ridiculous statement. How do you tell who's a vegan and who isn't? Is there a secret handshake or something. I'm tipping you come across plenty of vegans who don't tell you what to eat, and you wouldn't have a clue they were vegans.
One thing conservative people really like to do is generalise.

Why do you need to try to argue about everything????

Obviously you havent seen articles on social media around meat etc which will suddenly be swamped by huge numbers of vegans (obviously tipped off by vegan FB groups) telling everyone they are evil for eating meat, or maybe you have missed the news stories on vegan activist doing stunts outside restaurants or groups with animal activist that are vegans breaking into farms stealing animals etc, or maybe you dont have a vegan friend or two that are over opinionated about meat eaters (yeah i have vegan friend that dont too)

Do you live under a rock?

As my post said "Many (not all)", just like religious people many are nutters but not all are, but there sure is no shortage of over the top vegans getting around on social media.

blindboy wrote:

Having just watched the video, a few comments. The woman involved was perhaps late teens, an age when people are still likely to make poor decisions, like the one she made. When she first entered the ring, the animals appeared to be well controlled by their handlers so while the incident was an irritation, at that time it posed no threat to man or beast. Had cooler heads prevailed she could have had her say and caused no more than a slight delay to proceedings and the legal issues could have been sorted out by the local police. Instead, Mr Redface Boofhead, by grabbing the young woman creates a risk of injury to the woman, himself and the various others who joined in the melee as well as the risk that the animals would become disturbed and injure themselves or one of their handlers. Having had long experience of dealing with young people making bad decisions let me suggest that a cool head nearly always brings a happier ending for all concerned and that responsibility rests with the older people involved.

I thought they did a great job, i doubt she would do it again, she suddenly realised she had entered the real world, she is old enough to know better.

Vegans are becoming popular in New guinea.......delicious apparently.

Meanwhile, outside of the vegan bubble of privilege

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/outcry-in-brazil-over-phot...

san Guine wrote:

Meanwhile, outside of the vegan bubble of privilege

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/outcry-in-brazil-over-phot...

Jesus Christ that puts things into perspective.
That article is so sad.

Strange couple of videos to share there.

Video 1....Outsiders Program, need I say more, the vid appears to pretty much be satire. Video 2....a embarrassing protest followed by what will almost surely be assault charges by red face (pent up anger in there do you think?).

We could all benefit from reducing meat and seafood. The documentaries and the physical changes to our planet caused by our consumption are blazingly clear. It's not everything but it's a big part of our problems.

I've been vegan for almost 7 years and it's agreed with me well. I haven't lost or gained weight....no magical cures, no malnutrition either. But I'm happy to do what I can for the planet. I don't have access to my own sustainable plot of land for natural farming....nor a sustainable spot for fishing....those who do, enjoy the privilege while it lasts because it'll be gone in a generation....also I buy into the ethical argument (why add to the suffering of living things for my own unnecessary gains?).

On a side note - Anyone read into antibiotic usage recently? Most of it, by a long shot, gets put into animal agriculture. Heaps of the stuff actually. We're literally pumping billions of farm animals globally with antibiotics in large amounts. Superbugs created to keep meat eaters happy. Google 'Pig Zero'. Might cause a few problems in our future.

san Guine wrote:

Meanwhile, outside of the vegan bubble of privilege

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/oct/03/outcry-in-brazil-over-phot...

That's f'd up - but don't connect the dots where dots clearly aren't connected.

blindboy wrote:

freeride vegan diets have a long history in India associated with a variety of religions.

Think you'll find all those diets involve animal products, mostly ghee, milk, honey etc etc .

They are vegetarian, overwhelmingly plant based, but do include animal products.

Modern estimates are that India is only 20% vegetarian, let alone vegan.

The story of Indian Vegetarianism is largely myth.

Fair enough FR but we really need to be more concerned about the high fructose, poor quality fat and high alcohol diet that takes up so much of our health resources.

One of the best things about having a permanent place- the first time I’ve done so in almost three decades- is that it allows consistency in diet. Rather than eating what’s available when travelling or establishing a good diet for a few months before I’m relocated into an entirely different set of circumstances, now than I’m here full time I’ve really been able to refine my diet and find a regime which is healthy, cheap and delicious. Even better is that a lot of it is sourced or grown ourselves. The stuff we do buy is good quality.

Having a routine really gives the opportunity to find what works and what doesn’t. Without ever following anyone else’s program and certainly not adhering to any formulaic diet, our food is now mostly veggies but nothing starchy. Virtually no carbohydrates except for my favourite snack of a bowl of grapes with coconut yoghurt. A bit of fish, seafood, eggs and cheese. Bit of butter here and there. Hardly any alcohol*.

It works. I feel really good and pretty much as healthy as you could hope( touch wood). I don’t need or want for anything else. The effect that healthy diet and regular outdoors exercise , particularly anything in the ocean and especially surfing, is quite astounding when you consider how I used to feel sometimes.

The best thing I ever did was getting rid of any rubbish food out of the house so that when I get hungry I’m not tempted to reach for the processed garbage out of convenience.

*I reckon I’ve had about 6 beers in 6 months, not including the WSL finals day where I started drinking at about 2AM , went for a surf at around 9AM then continued sucking beers till sun down. It was pretty all time but the hangover was brutal. Think I’ll make it an annual thing.

Blowin "Virtually no carbohydrates except for my favourite snack of a bowl of grapes with coconut yoghurt ."

I am on a Seefood diet . Are you sure you are eating carbs ?

What do you mean?

Maybe I worded that incorrectly. It’s more about foods which spike blood sugar. Grapes do this in spades. They’re damn tasty with coconut yoghurt.

Indo, old mate with the red face committed a shameful assault on a young woman and could easily have been charged and found guilty on the evidence of that video. Provocation may mitigate the penalty but it is no defence. Think for a minute, would you really respond in the same way? And if you had, would you be proud of yourself? If it is not a no to both questions then I have sadly misjudged your character.

I thought you meant grapes and yoghurt were your cards source .

I love grapes to ( most fruits ) .

Plant food is basically carbohydrate.

There are simple and complex carbs.

The sugars in fruit are simple carbs and raise blood sugar quickly.

There are some proteins and fats in plant foods but not as high quality or bioavailable as animal products.

76 - That's something I didn't know . "The sugars in fruit are simple carbs "

That’s the one.

fructose, glucose, galactose.

All sugars, all simple carbohydrates.

True not much if any difference in metabolism but high fructose corn syrup is the most common sweetener in junk food.

oh, it's everywhere.

blindboy wrote:

Indo, old mate with the red face committed a shameful assault on a young woman and could easily have been charged and found guilty on the evidence of that video. Provocation may mitigate the penalty but it is no defence. Think for a minute, would you really respond in the same way? And if you had, would you be proud of yourself? If it is not a no to both questions then I have sadly misjudged your character.

Maybe the law might see it as assault, but it shouldn't be classed as assault, he was just physically removing here, if she wasn't doing what she was doing he wouldn't need to remove her.

Yeah I wouldn't do it myself, im to mellow, but id buy him a beer latter.

I think that's a really big problem with the law, inciting and antagonising type behaviour is not dealt with harshly enough by the law, same with property damage, but often those responding/reacting to the behaviour are often treated much more harshly, it's fucked

For instance if this went to court in anyway, this should be a shut and closed case, the judge should just go, he was only doing what was needed even if she got a few bruises.

This might sound pretty over the top, but i honestly think farmers should be able to shoot those activist that break into their farmers as long as it's below the waist :P

Im serious, obviously it would still need to go to court and shown that they had trespassed and broken and entered and had clear intentions to cause trouble, opposed to just someone that has crossed the farmers land to fish in a creek etc or didnt have any ill will intention towards the farmers livestock or business.

There needs to be more balance, if you intentionally stir shit up, people should be able to take more direct action.