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factotum started the topic in Thursday, 27 Aug 2020 at 11:12am

Septic Tanks are going to Septic Tank

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 26 Mar 2022 at 8:57pm

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSL5N2VS48W

"In a scaled-back formulation of its war goals, Russia said on Friday that the first phase of its military operation was mostly complete and it would focus on completely “liberating” Ukraine’s breakaway eastern Donbass region"

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/exclusive-chinas-sinopec-pauses-...

"Exclusive: China's Sinopec pauses Russia projects, Beijing wary of sanctions"

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san Guine Saturday, 26 Mar 2022 at 9:21pm

Maybe that was the true agenda.
Putin loses a couple of thousand troops and a bit of (probably) Soviet era equipment.
Gains a couple of strategic cities.
Withdraws as the West dithers.
Has another crack in 3(?) years.
The military/ industrial complex (whatever its' manifestation) makes a buck.
And ...

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etarip Sunday, 27 Mar 2022 at 7:14am
san Guine wrote:

Maybe that was the true agenda.
Putin loses a couple of thousand troops and a bit of (probably) Soviet era equipment.
Gains a couple of strategic cities.
Withdraws as the West dithers.
Has another crack in 3(?) years.
The military/ industrial complex (whatever its' manifestation) makes a buck.

It’s a revised goal. Putin went for broke, so he’s backpedaled to revise those goals to what’s ‘achievable’, what he thinks is ‘acceptable’ to the Ukrainians / West / UN, and what’s ‘sellable’ to the Russian people as a victory.

On the issues of Russian losses, they’re significant. It’s not just old stuff. Plenty of new kit in there, both destroyed and captured. Their personnel losses have included big hits on some of their ‘elite’ units. They’ve also exhausted their ‘discretionary’ stocks of precision guided weapons significantly. They will struggle to replace them under current sanctions regimes.

Biden’s comments on Putin not remaining in power were unscripted, unnecessary and I think dangerous in that they play into Putin’s internally-focused narrative. Would have been best to leave that unsaid.

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velocityjohnno Sunday, 27 Mar 2022 at 2:09pm

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times;
It was the time of commodities being punted instead of crypto, it was the time of coughing up $2+ a litre at the servo...
etc

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Supafreak Sunday, 27 Mar 2022 at 4:29pm

@vj , Do you think gold is going to keep going up this year ? saw a prediction it would hit $3000 by year’s end .

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sypkan Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 7:11pm

how long can they keep making excuses for biden?

"... I err err ...happen to think... joe biden is irish..."

ok, that's that sorted...

seriously, the dude is a major danger

https://m.

"I'm not walking anything back"

errrr ok....

but, maybe you should?

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indo-dreaming Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 7:19pm

Everyone five years ago: Trump will start world war 3

Everyone now: OMG Biden please just zip it dude.

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sypkan Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 7:26pm

"Ever since Joe Biden ended his speech in Poland on Saturday night by making one of the most dangerous statements ever uttered by a U.S. president in the nuclear age, efforts to clean up after him have been profuse. Administration officials scurried to assert that Biden didn't mean what he said. Yet no amount of trying to "walk back" his unhinged comment at the end of his speech in front of Warsaw's Royal Castle can change the fact that Biden had called for regime change in Russia..."

https://www.salon.com/2022/03/28/nine-words-that-shook-the-world-what-wa...

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 7:55pm

Four...President Biden says Course record is not under threat!
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/apr/18/joe-biden-golf-course

Nov 2016 Trump's Hole in One (1) > Wins Presidential Race (1)

Feb 2017 Check out the Power of a Hole in One superstar ...All laugh now > Prez Trump says so!

March 2022 "President" Trump's 2nd Hole in one > Mid Terms Ultra power Player ?
Pretty sure the crew will hear "President" made a hole in one! So it's a done deal...that's some super shot!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-2649913/Video-Former-Presid...

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evosurfer Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 10:34pm

I for the life of me cant understand what the uproar is all about what Biden said
about that lunatic Putin. Putin started this invasion for no reason declared war
on Ukraine targeting the innocent civilians sending missiles into hospitals schools
housing and slaughtering the innocent with invading troops and in this stupid idiotic
political correct bullshit world which is enforced upon us dickheads say hes gone too far
. Fuck right off you imbeciles. Next thing you nutters will say America started all this
and should help Ukraine with troops but theyre not permitted to have weapons.
For fuck sake wake up.

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sypkan Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 11:07pm

well evo, it's an issue because biden has just given putin justification to do exactly what he is doing...

no matter how you see the game of war playing out, and who started what... putin's reason and justification for war is the US is coming after him and russia's sovereignty

if you want biden's abject incompetence to fuel putin's propaganda and justifications... well good for you...

most people agree it is a strategic blunder of the highest proportions

it also backs putin into a corner and fuels his paranoia

ideally you want an off ramp for putin's paranoid delusions, an easy way out to stop the killing and put everyone back in their corners... biden's blunder has just backed putin into a corner where he is much much more likely to use nuclesr weapons and/or whatever other nuttery he has up his sleeve...

not ideal

a mammoth fuck up for biden, the sort of legendary dumbass communications that are lamented for eternity in the history books...

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Constance B Gibson Tuesday, 29 Mar 2022 at 11:06pm

Hahahaha.

Clash of the SN tight 'uns.

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goofyfoot Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 5:36am
sypkan wrote:

how long can they keep making excuses for biden?

"... I err err ...happen to think... joe biden is irish..."

ok, that's that sorted...

seriously, the dude is a major danger

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0oFhjMj9CVY

"I'm not walking anything back"

errrr ok....

but, maybe you should?

That YouTube clip is incredible. Biden is such a bumbling old fuddy Duddy it’s scary

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evosurfer Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 9:10am

So you clowns justify Putin murderous regime but dick head Biden who I also thing
is a complete wombat says one thing that might flip this Putin out who is killing
thousands is completely wrong and its all Bidens fault to escalate a already a
escalating war. No way in hell USA were planning to invade or start a war with Russia.
No wonder Australians have become so weak, gutless and passive
with no balls your attitudes suck and you would give up Australia to the Chinese as
soon as a war ship floats up Sydney harbour. By the way China is on the way start
sucking them you brain washed, smells the flowers pacifist numskulls some time
you have to make a stand for our way of life. Russia and China are not the good guys.

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Hot tuna Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 11:03am

Evosurfer .The USA has been trying to provoke a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine for years. Trump put those dreams on the back burner for a few years. Back to full steam ahead.

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evosurfer Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 12:53pm

Bring back trump then and a dont understand what a provoked PROXY war is and
why no matter what happens anywhere in the world USA seem to be catalyst? Is it
because theyre the only nation that actually stands for democracy and every other
pitiful nation ask them for help. Why isnt Nato to blame or even heaven forbid the
actual aggressive perpetrators.

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Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 1:02pm

I hears ya...bring back Trump, dangnabbit!

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 2:12pm

well, trump literally couldn't do any worse...

I don't think anyone could, except kamala perhaps...

which is really legit. scary actually

quite the team you've assembled there cunnie

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sypkan Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 2:28pm

"Why isnt Nato to blame or even heaven forbid the
actual aggressive perpetrators."

good question...

I actually think it is disgraceful the US had to take such a lead on this conflict

everyone bags em out, until something serious happens... then all the righteous euros are suspiciously quiet or ducking and weaving

I blame germany, austria, and a heap of those nearby for this conflict, they empowered russia whilst aquiring cheap fossil fuels, they ressisted a heap of sanctions like SWIFT etc. to the absolute bitter end, and they are still reliant on russia's oil etc. and will be for years to come by the looks of it

plus they tight arsed out on their NATO commitments for decades

it's easy to be the clean green morally righteous pacifists in europe all high and mighty and shit for decades... until they no longer are...

because the corrupt regime you bought into starts killing their neighbours with your fossil fuel blood money...

bloody disgraceful, and they continue to duck and weave now as the US takes all the heat

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flollo Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 2:29pm
sypkan wrote:

"Why isnt Nato to blame or even heaven forbid the
actual aggressive perpetrators."

good question...

I actually think it is disgraceful the US had to take such a lead on this conflict

everyone bags em out, until something serious happens... then all the righteous euros are suspiciously quiet or ducking and weaving

I blame germany, austria, and a heap of those nearby for this conflict, they empowered russia whilst aquiring cheap fossil fuels, they ressisted a heap of sanctions like SWIFT etc. to the absolute bitter end, and they are still reliant on russia's oil etc. and will be for years to come by the looks of it

plus the tight arsed out on their NATO agreements for decades

it's easy to be the clean green morally righteous pacifists in europe for decades... until they no longer are...

because the corrupt regime you bought into starts killing their neighbours with your blood money...

bloody disgraceful, and they continue to duck and weave as the US takes all the heat

Not to mention that some of these countries virtually had no defense mechanisms or allocated budget for building any capability. They are more than happy to freeload on the US military in case anything goes wrong. Trump is a total sociopath and I cannot stand him but he was right about this. He always complained about the US defense budget effectively subsidising other countries.

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Constance B Gibson Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 2:37pm

"Quite the team you've assembled there cunnie."

Que?

Forget Donnie Trump, keep on tilting Don Quixote!

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garyg1412 Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 2:43pm

I love the way every one is trying to work out how Putin's brain is thinking. Let's see . He believes that we are trying to cancel Russian culture the same way we cancelled JK Rowling and he's prepared to defend Russia against that. And you guys reckon Sleepy Joe is a bit off script.
The veil is certainly coming down on person who previously exuded power and masculinity but now only shows the real psychologically disturbed human being that he is. The only Russian thing being cancelled at the moment is thousands of Russian soldiers lives and military equipment due to his greed and decades of pilfering and corruption in the country which he is in charge of. And that is not the West's fault.

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Michael Adam Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 3:52pm

“I agree with the latest thing” - Blumpkin, erry day, all day….

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AndyM Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 9:01pm
evosurfer wrote:

Bring back trump then and a dont understand what a provoked PROXY war is and
why no matter what happens anywhere in the world USA seem to be catalyst? Is it
because theyre the only nation that actually stands for democracy and every other
pitiful nation ask them for help. Why isnt Nato to blame or even heaven forbid the
actual aggressive perpetrators.

The United States stand for democracy?
Hahahaha!!

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Distracted Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 10:18pm

Sypkan, Putin’s reasoning for the war isn’t the US, it is the same same story as ever, power and money.
Ukraine has gas and water resources that he wants while denying them the same resource. Then he also takes all the Black Sea ports for commercial benefits.
This is not a fault of Biden and the usa. Bidens regime change remark was dangerous though and doesn’t help.

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evosurfer Wednesday, 30 Mar 2022 at 11:11pm

AndyM tell me this would you like to live under a Russian regime or a American one?

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sypkan Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 12:33pm

nyt, wa-po, and cnn suddenly find hunter biden's laptop story - 2 years late....

fbi literally loses hunter biden's laptop - 2 years later...

https://www.foxnews.com/media/jesse-watters-washington-post-authenticate...

biden's either done or the protection racket continues

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AndyM Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 3:15pm
evosurfer wrote:

AndyM tell me this would you like to live under a Russian regime or a American one?

Jeez evo, way to change the topic.

Anyhoo, maybe have a squiz at this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-sa...

Basically, between 1947 and 1989, the United States tried to change other nations’ governments 72 times.
Of course, this includes deposing a democratically elected government in Chile and installing a military dictatorship.

The U.S. is largely indifferent to democracy.

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soggydog Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 3:57pm
AndyM wrote:
evosurfer wrote:

AndyM tell me this would you like to live under a Russian regime or a American one?

Jeez evo, way to change the topic.

Anyhoo, maybe have a squiz at this

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/12/23/the-cia-sa...

Basically, between 1947 and 1989, the United States tried to change other nations’ governments 72 times.
Of course, this includes deposing a democratically elected government in Chile and installing a military dictatorship.

The U.S. is largely indifferent to democracy.

The US foreign policy power brokers assassinated a US president in broad daylight when they where threatened, then covered it up. If that wasn’t a coupe what is?

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zenagain Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 4:23pm

Maybe this Soggy?

https://images.app.goo.gl/wHLzbdVop1D1wJyt6

Sorry mate, couldn't help myself.

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AndyM Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 4:52pm

And as I’ve said before, there’s solid evidence that the dismissal of Gough was aided and abetted by the CIA.

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Supafreak Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 5:37pm

The opening 50 seconds of this clip is worth watching .

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Supafreak Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 6:40pm

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adam12 Thursday, 31 Mar 2022 at 6:51pm

"The US foreign policy power brokers assassinated a US president in broad daylight when they where threatened, then covered it up. If that wasn’t a coupe what is? "
I thought JFK got shot in a four door convertible?

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sypkan Friday, 1 Apr 2022 at 11:13pm

"After the election of Donald Trump in 2016, many Democratic voters felt baffled and betrayed. Pollsters and statisticians had predicted a decisive victory for Hillary Clinton, and her campaign had even attempted to elevate Trump because they thought he was the easiest candidate for her to beat. Conveniently, the Russian collusion narrative and allegations of white supremacy allowed the Democratic National Committee, the Clinton campaign, and the media to avoid asking themselves how they had made such an enormous miscalculation.

In reality, their inability to predict or understand Trump’s appeal to voters was symptomatic of a class stratification that had been building for decades. From the 1970s until the 2008 financial crash, only the top 20% of the country saw its real income steadily grow while the real income of the bottom 80% stagnated. This top 20% consisted largely of affluent college-educated professionals who migrated to the Democratic Party, while large segments of the working class left it. In 1960, Democratic President John F. Kennedy lost the votes of white college graduates, but he won the support of white voters without a college degree by a 2-to-1 margin. For Joe Biden, the results were the exact opposite. In 1992, almost 60% of Bill Clinton’s supporters were whites without a degree, but the same was true of only 27% of Biden voters. By 2018 the top 10 wealthiest congressional districts were all held by Democrats.

The Democratic Party’s elitism problem corresponds to a long-standing trend among liberal professionals. For decades, they have been waging a thinly veiled class war against their perceived inferiors, which Christopher Lasch described in his 1994 book Revolt of the Elites and the Betrayal of Democracy. One of Lasch’s central arguments was that managerial elites had abandoned public debate and their basic obligations to the majority. The economic divide between the Democrat-affiliated upper-middle class and the rest of the country has produced a highly insular intelligentsia increasingly disconnected from reality and aligned with corporate interests.

While the GOP was once considered to be the party of big business, the country’s top billionaire megadonors are split between Democrats and Republicans, and Democrats equal or outpace Republicans in donations from pharmaceutical companies, the tech sector, and Wall Street. The alliance between Democrat-led causes and corporate executives is sometimes portrayed as necessary for holding off an insurrectionist, anti-democratic threat from the right. However, it is this very alliance that has produced highly centralized government and corporate control while curbing free expression and open discourse.

After Trump’s election, many commentators expressed anxiety that his followers would plunge the country into far-right authoritarianism. Instead, it is the class of college-educated Democrats that now openly argues for the value of blind submission to authority and the elimination of personal freedoms. The trend Lasch wrote about in the 1990s has metastasized. It no longer poses a mere threat to democracy—it has become a full-fledged attack on basic democratic principles. Far from upholding civil liberties, the self-proclaimed “resistance” to Trumpism has itself exhibited many hallmarks of authoritarianism: suppression of dissent, demand for unquestioning obedience, and tight control over the flow of information. While scapegoating Trump supporters, a nexus of billionaires, woke corporations, public intellectuals, and Democratic officials have sparked the very descent into authoritarianism they claimed would emerge from the populist right..."

https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/new-authoritarians

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"...is not simply a matter of hypocrisy. It is only by painting themselves as victims fighting against their oppressors that college-educated professionals can rationalize their own authoritarianism. The cult of victimhood conjures the specter of fascism, misogyny, or white nationalism in order to justify blatantly repressive measures. This is why, for example, the professional class consistently portrayed unvaccinated people as Trump supporters even though in many major cities vaccine passports mostly excluded Democrat-voting Black residents from indoor establishments. Under the guise of combatting anti-vax extremism, woke liberal politicians embraced segregation and the exact kind of “systemic racism” they claimed to oppose. While considering themselves to be on the side of righteousness and rationality, commentators called for hospitals to reject unvaccinated patients, and some even celebrated their deaths. This is precisely the type of punitive, regressive tendency that progressives warned would be a consequence of Trump’s election..."

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"...Moreover, it is not social media but mainstream news outlets that have been the largest purveyors of “misinformation.” One accusation often made against Trump supporters is that they blindly and unthinkingly believe false claims. But during the pandemic this was consistently true of college-educated Democrats, who still hold the most skewed and erroneous views about COVID. In 2022, 48% of “very liberal” people still believed that COVID posed a “great risk” to children’s health despite widely available evidence that the risk COVID poses to children is miniscule. Between January 2021 and September 2021, the CDC reported that 280 children died with COVID (later the CDC would admit that it had inflated its total death numbers by almost 25%). According to the latest available data (from 2015-19), flu and pneumonia killed more children annually. Heart disease, firearms, drowning, and motor vehicles all pose a much greater risk to children than COVID. Believing that COVID is a “great risk” for kids, justifying child mask mandates and school closures, is exactly the kind of persistent scientific illiteracy of which journalists accuse Trump supporters...."

all sounds very familiar...

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Constance B Gibson Friday, 1 Apr 2022 at 11:28pm

TL:DR, lil buddy

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sypkan Friday, 1 Apr 2022 at 11:36pm

that's a lotta TL:DR of late skipper

which means a lot of bullshitting...

again...

because we all know you've read it all

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Michael Adam Friday, 1 Apr 2022 at 11:46pm

Some hope for the US and the rest of Western civilisation with Michael Shellenberger running for Governor of California.

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Constance B Gibson Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 2:58am

Advanced hair, yeah, yeah.

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Michael Adam Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 9:32am

Hey Constance “I agree with the latest thing” Gibson, go pick up your BLM sign mate. It’s still there on the side of C bay road, corroding away, littering the earth. Actually, leave it there. Sums up the “movement” perfectly.

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indo-dreaming Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 10:57am
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Some hope for the US and the rest of Western civilisation with Michael Shellenberger running for Governor of California.

100% agree i really hope he has a chance.

I listened to the Joe Rogan Michael Shellenberger podcast on Thursday, well worth a listen i really hope he has success i agree with los of what he says and believes, i think he has a good balance on things like drugs and homelessness etc

Only area i get disappointed on when he is interviewed is around Nuclear, despite the huge advantages of nuclear, i just dont think its realistic from an economics perspective, id like to see him be challenged on this aspect but Joe didn't question him on this aspect and his recent interview on Triggernometry podcast also didnt challenge him on this, i find that really disappointing.

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troppo dichotomy Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 11:20am

California is on a the highly temperamental San Andres fault line.
Putting in nuclear reactors potentially could be a repeat of Fukushima.

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Michael Adam Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 12:13pm

More reactors you mean?
Only if they use Fukishimas long out dated technology Troppo.
Um… don’t think they plan to….

Any good reason Australia shouldnt be building at least couple reactors out in the desert?

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"Any good reason Australia shouldnt be building at least couple reactors out in the desert?"

absolutely no need to perhaps...

and economically unviable

you need big population centres like europe and asia to make them viable

which comes to indo's point... they are almost uneconomical now, even in those places, with renewables getting cheaper and better

nuclear plants require loads of maintenance, monitoring, and safety

that's without even considering the security risks in an increasingly unstable world

and the waste... these contenporary advocates behave like it is a solved problem... I guess it is... if you're cool with future generations inheriting your super toxic waste for thousands and thousands of years...

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Constance B Gibson Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 12:50pm

Hang on...wrong thread?

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 5:54pm

Excellent doco on Finland long term nuclear storage facility - spooky

It's a very long-term way to boil water...

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velocityjohnno Saturday, 2 Apr 2022 at 6:01pm

Russian withdrawal from around Kiev on twitter

Ukr helis strike fuel depot inside Russia: deep strike

One of the commenters is giving Netflix ideas, lol

You reckon you ever had a shitkicking day at work?

HOstomel airport liberated, RIP world's biggest Antonov

Throughout this, UK weapons have been effective