House prices
Optimist wrote:When the river towns were first settled over a hundred years ago, people used the river for business and transport. Timber and ag products the big ones and the riverside houses were solid timber elevated basic qld style and most people had a solid timber table and chairs and very few possessions. Rich people might have had a grandfather clock and nice crockery. Transport would have been a horse and cart down stairs beside the hay shed. Very little to move or lose during a big flood. The world is different now. Mountains of modern stuff that virtually explodes when wet. Buildings lined with suicidal gyprock and carpets and chipboard floors and furniture. Perhaps people who choose to live by the river need to rethink the way they live. If not, there is higher ground all around Australia to build a safe life with all its material assets. None of this is the Govts fault. Life is about choices and risk vs benefit. Regardless of it not being the Govts fault they have sprung (though a bit slower than many would like ) into helpful action. Like the other disasters, we have a good government in this country who do help people get going again regardless. Some of the ungrateful scenes I have witnessed are a reflection of the darker side of modernism. Risk vs. benefit….that’s life..make wise choices and if things go wrong, you learn and move on.
That's such a good comment, as are the ones following about understanding the risks and being responsible for them. Raised with stories of the '54 floods on Sunshine coast, then went through Ash Wednesday - has coloured our decisions on where to live ever since.
Try to build a house out of that quality timber today - or provision a grandfather clock... One of the highlights of my working life was an important heritage building in one of our cities - working right up to its clock tower - the convict's handmarks in the bricks/mortar - the grains of the timber in the internal structure: so thick it was and such tiny grains so close together! Magnificent. The clock - oh wow, what a marvel of engineering, looked new... a complex analog machine, still working, still cared for... Betcha my mobile won't last as long!
Also understand the pricing has become mad, as FR said - many people have no effective choice. I put it to you this is the product of 5000 year-low interest rates and poor lending standards - fuel for the fire. At least rates have begun rising now. The biggest capital misallocation in our lifetimes, maybe the last century, or the last millennium.
Cockee wrote:Andy wrote
'The government needs to be called to account a long way prior to whether or not they bail people out'
Called to account over what? That is just lazy, stupid and gratuitous LNP-bashing.
If you don’t understand the relationship between government policies and how this impacts where people can afford to live I don’t know what else to say.
thermalben wrote:Stumbled across this note from October: the property is right next to Splendour in the Grass (abuts the M1 too).
“I attended an interesting auction on the weekend. Treetops is a 9 lot rural CT subdivision. The expected range suggested by agent Greg Price from Ray White Bangalow was around $4 mil, There was heated biding and it finally settled at an unexpected $8.3 mil. This price makes the retail sales for this rural residential subdivision implausible for retail sales even in today’s overheated market. These buyers will have trouble recouping and this is a display of buyer over-exuberance.”
https://raywhiteruralbangalow.com.au/properties/sold-rural/nsw/wooyung-2...
https://www.byronpropertysearch.com.au/hot-properties/
And now.. those individual blocks (originally nine in total, eight available now, obviously the new owner has kept one) are up for sale, with prices "starting from $1,000,000 - $3,500,000".
So, that's a potential sale of anywhere between $8m to $28m, from the initial purchase price only six months ago of $8.3m (of which the total value would be closer to $7m, given they've kept one of the blocks). And with an initial expectation for around the $4m mark.
https://www.realestate.com.au/property-house-nsw-wooyung-137521882
Will be interesting to see how this goes.
Oz / NZ Housing > Hi-Rise varies by 50% Land & charges but share (General Cost ratio within 25%)
Land 25-40% > Labour/Goods 30% > Insurance/Contingency 25% > Taxes 15% > Civil 10% > Pros 5%
Inbuilt Description
Labour > (Inbuilt Wage Increase) 35-45% / 5 years
Contingency (Inbuilt charges) : 10% Compo > re: Earthquake / Floods / Landslips
Civil (Inbuilt charges) 10% : Rail / Motorway / Services + [P] / Lifts
Holding (Inbuilt charges) : Bankruptcy / Loan Defaults / Weather Delays / Supply shortage
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/nz/Documents/Economics/nz...
Us humble folk can pick off the low hanging fruit...Land / Labour / Taxes (Leave the mud pies in the Sky!)
Land
Fed Govt need GST so promise newer faster 1hr Interstate dam walled metropolis by the dozen.
Civil / Construction GST impost shelved these archaic 20 year old dreams along with manufacturing.
States / LGA Supa / Airlines / Real Estate Sharks / Transit moguls combine to stamp out competitors.
Feds want Faster Transit incomes > States slow us down to fine us > Councils stop us to fine us!
Feds > Promise Hwy duplication > Speed Rail
States > Toll roads & speed Cams & Stall Intercity Airport links for Timeshare Trolley Stamp Duty
Councils > Slow to a crawl [P] fees > Timeshare Trolley > Red light urban crawl space on the spot fines.
GC would die in shock if 20 year delayed BNE / GC Airports Rail Link was built for 2032 Games.
AirTrain 1hr 25m (vs) Prioritized Fed/State/Council Whiteshoe Timeshare Trolley 3hr 11m
Timeshare Trolley led to a drop in Public Transit > So State Govt censored all Quarterly Stats (Sorted!)
1930's Golden Age of Travel had more encompassing range, options & faster timetables than today.
You guessed it...Inner city land grab > Skyrockets > Premium Tax Charges > Premium Real Estate.
Back to the beginning > If Feds deliver on their High Speed / Rail > they then have nothing to promise.
They keep States / LGA / Big Donors happy & people wanting & needing them more than ever!
GST free Home shopping Port Cities are bossing 80% of Trade/Jobs/Pop ...so sue the Internet!
Speed Rail must prioritize #1 Major Air/Sea Port centres defeating it's core new cities objective.
We could be looking at Speed Rail further doubling Port land prices to please www City backers.
Labour / Materials / GST > In this order
Fittings 20-25% > Timber-All 20% > Concrete 10% > Plumbing 10% > Windows 10%
Fittings > Reo-Nails-Screws-Glues-Clips-Plastics-Wrap
Timber > Frames > Form Ply > Skirtings > Shelving > Doors > Kitchens
Concrete > Slabs-(re: Footprint) 7-10% > Town Houses 5% > (Hi-rise 25% -reduced Timber 8%)
Wotz missing is Largest area Painting & Plastering > They have less GST Production Process.
This less GST keeps these larger less manufactured material costs down.
GST...(Builders)
Same Question is asked by builders 20 years on & never once answered without utter disbelief.
If I Paid GST on Materials > Then if I include said materials into my Labour bill...
This automatically upmarks an inflated GST process onto each Bill as item upvalues thru the chain.
https://www.simplyaskit.com.au/question/722/im-in-the-building-game-just...
Say for example the same packet of unopened screws gets passed on thru the chain until Hand over!
Unopened $1 screws could be onsold 50x thru more upskilled craftsmen, each a defaulted higher tax.
If each tradie used one screw each from same pack they can still up price it more & also GST Tradie bill.
Thus after 4 months that very same crumpled $1 pack of screw/s is billed by Builder to Owner @ $50
ATO Verify...this is exactly how their tax rort works...
ATO (Staff!) : You are required to charge GST on any Goods & services you provide.
If you don't mark up materials, you will still charge Initial GST you paid + Client will then pay you GST.
GST is applied to every transaction...there is no one off GST exemption application...
Initial GST may also be the same 'Scaffold Danger Money' shared & taxed by all...mushrooming in cost.
However! This initial solo GST item is also added to higher GST Labour combo ramping the tax bill.
Raising more Questions as to an inert already pricey taxed item being the growing elephant in the room.
And there you have it folks...ATO enforce double taxing to Snowball taxation of each Home Material.
GST is not a set 10% -15% on trade/s...it's a ballooning 10-15% Tax on GST Labor-Goods-delivery.
Meaning! ATO tax impost penalizes expert Productive > Manufacturing > Construction...process.(Cars)
Instead it dumbs down Oz to reward one off GST depot Imports...(Fox) + Boxes Containers.
We are effectively a Banana Republic dogsbody by Govt design.
This is why 20 years on...Builders shake their heads in disbelief...How is Double Dipping not Fraud?
Well it's not, if ATO order you to comply with their evil act.
Get rid of ATO snowball GST gouging rort & Oz can lower the cost of all construction & infrastructure.
Only then can we construct our Damns / Rail / Hwys to build accessible Cities to lower land costs.
https://www.smh.com.au/property/news/home-prices-drop-in-melbourne-and-s...
"Home values fell in Sydney and Melbourne in March amid signs the Australian property market is slowing, with sales down by a third in those cities after strong growth over the past year."
Like coming down from the top of a ladder after you've head-butted the ceiling
https://thenewdaily.com.au/finance/finance-news/2022/04/04/house-prices-...
Check out the graph in the article above. Ludicrous!!
Some interesting quotes also:
The result of 6 per cent compound annual growth in the value of houses over 40 years is that household debt has had to increase from half to twice average disposable income, and from 40 per cent of GDP to 120 per cent.
Household debt is now more than the entire countries GDP!!! Just stop and think what this means and the repercussions higher interest rates will have!!
That was accurate.
"Such as demand and bidding power, grotesquely amplified as they are by minuscule interest rates, tax breaks and government grants for first-home buyers."
Well, given the inquiries and criticism of such, if we assume nothing will change within factors controllable by government, we can only hope that external pressures, in the form of global interest rate rises, can force some change to this situation. For the young.
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/footpath-for-sale-for-400000-030150243...
close to playgrounds
Whilst not strictly about house prices it certainly paints a telling truth about the “Great Reset” that is coming.
https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/inflation-is-the-kryptonite-that
bring on a reset. things have been out of hand for way too long and cant just keep building wealth on debt as the GDP figures would suggest
thermalben wrote:Forget house and land prices, check out the pubs!
Justin Hemmes has apparently bought a block of Byron land on Jonson Street for $50 million, and is said to be spending $20 million building a new venue along the lines of the Coogee Pavilion.
Hemmes also bought the (vacant) Cheeky Monkeys backpackers bar for $13 million. And in Vicco, picked up the Lorne Hotel for $38 million.
Sydney developer Podia paid $18 million for the Byron Bay Backpackers on Jonson Street. The old Woolworths (opposite Cheeky Monkeys) also sold for $120 million to the Mustaca family and they're building a new four-star hotel.
Stu Laundy recently bought the Lennox Hotel for $40 million and The Farm for $16 million.
Last year, the Byron Bay Beach Hotel sold to investment bank Moelis Australia for $104 million.
And, media reports a few months ago said that both Hemmes and Laundy were in a bidding war for the Pacific Hotel at Yamba, with an asking price of around $50 million. Dunno if it sold though.
Another one to add to the list - the Brunswick Hotel sold last December to MA Financial Group for $68 million (same group that bought the Beach Hotel in Byron for $104m in 2019).
thermalben wrote:thermalben wrote:Forget house and land prices, check out the pubs!
Justin Hemmes has apparently bought a block of Byron land on Jonson Street for $50 million, and is said to be spending $20 million building a new venue along the lines of the Coogee Pavilion.
Hemmes also bought the (vacant) Cheeky Monkeys backpackers bar for $13 million. And in Vicco, picked up the Lorne Hotel for $38 million.
Sydney developer Podia paid $18 million for the Byron Bay Backpackers on Jonson Street. The old Woolworths (opposite Cheeky Monkeys) also sold for $120 million to the Mustaca family and they're building a new four-star hotel.
Stu Laundy recently bought the Lennox Hotel for $40 million and The Farm for $16 million.
Last year, the Byron Bay Beach Hotel sold to investment bank Moelis Australia for $104 million.
And, media reports a few months ago said that both Hemmes and Laundy were in a bidding war for the Pacific Hotel at Yamba, with an asking price of around $50 million. Dunno if it sold though.
Another one to add to the list - the Brunswick Hotel sold last December to MA Financial Group for $68 million (same group that bought the Beach Hotel in Byron for $104m in 2019).
Nuts!
Have to sell a lot of beer to get a return on that investment!
I know it's real estate, but geez....
andy-mac wrote:Nuts!
Have to sell a lot of beer to get a return on that investment!
I know it's real estate, but geez....
Funnily enough, I was chatting to a pub owner a few years ago, and it seems there's a good reason why they're worth so much money - people will happily pay good coin for alcohol served in a pleasant environment. His example? They had recently put up the price of tap beer by 15% (no underlying reasons; just because they could), and sales had correspondingly gone UP about the same amount too. Zero complaints about the price rise from customers, everyone just swipes the plastic.
I mean, if it's a sunny Sunday arvo and you're looking to kill a few hours with the family and friends in the beer garden, what are you gonna do? Go elsewhere? Many towns have only one pub.
thermalben wrote:andy-mac wrote:Nuts!
Have to sell a lot of beer to get a return on that investment!
I know it's real estate, but geez....Funnily enough, I was chatting to a pub owner a few years ago, and it seems there's a good reason why they're worth so much money - people will happily pay good coin for alcohol served in a pleasant environment. His example? They had recently put up the price of tap beer by 15% (no underlying reasons; just because they could), and sales had correspondingly gone UP about the same amount too. Zero complaints about the price rise from customers, everyone just swipes the plastic.
I mean, if it's a sunny Sunday arvo and you're looking to kill a few hours with the family and friends in the beer garden, what are you gonna do? Go elsewhere? Many towns have only one pub.
Guess that is correct. I have definitely spent my share of $$ on tasty IPA' s in a pleasant environment... :)
Happy to pay extra also.
And like you say, I reckon punters easily spend more money now with swiping rather than paying cash. All good until read credit card statement. Haha.
thermalben wrote:andy-mac wrote:Nuts!
Have to sell a lot of beer to get a return on that investment!
I know it's real estate, but geez....Funnily enough, I was chatting to a pub owner a few years ago, and it seems there's a good reason why they're worth so much money - people will happily pay good coin for alcohol served in a pleasant environment. His example? They had recently put up the price of tap beer by 15% (no underlying reasons; just because they could), and sales had correspondingly gone UP about the same amount too. Zero complaints about the price rise from customers, everyone just swipes the plastic.
I mean, if it's a sunny Sunday arvo and you're looking to kill a few hours with the family and friends in the beer garden, what are you gonna do? Go elsewhere? Many towns have only one pub.
Agreed Ben but that’s a serious amount of beer you’ve got to sell to pay the interest bill on $68m!!!
Hands up who still believes the fairy tale that house prices can’t take a huge step backwards?
But but….the RBA said interest rates won’t rise till 2024.
Dude s d s d welcome back dude
Terimah kasih teman
Interesting read
"Millions of homebuyers in America have been priced out since the start of the year — economists say it's likely to get worse
Rising US interest rates designed to slow inflation have priced more than 9 million homebuyers in America out of the housing market since the start of the year, according to a leading property economist.
Nadia Evangelou, senior economist and head of forecasting at the National Association of Realtors, said more than 3 million millennials had been priced out of buying a home since January, with the average monthly price of paying off a home in the US rising by nearly $270."
Continued here https://www.businessinsider.com/real-estate-property-homes-mortgage-rate...
$270 a month extra in repayments is Fck all. That’s like $70 a week. Rents in Oz have easily gone up by that much in the last year. What happens when the real interest rates arrive?
Old Bob about to make a few million selling up in Suffolk Park. Something about surf legends being property millionaires makes me a little bit sad (as opposed to the raging anger I usually feel when thinking about property).
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/legendary-surfboard-designer-bob-mcta...
dandandan wrote:Old Bob about to make a few million selling up in Suffolk Park. Something about surf legends being property millionaires makes me a little bit sad (as opposed to the raging anger I usually feel when thinking about property).
https://www.realestate.com.au/news/legendary-surfboard-designer-bob-mcta...
I remember chatting once to older guy who decided to hang in Sydney for career / money in early 70's as some of his mates did the NSW north coast thing. Turns out they all did better financially with property values, business etc. Not to mention lifestyle. Some people luck out....
"He is now inviting expressions of interest from $6 million."
“The vision I saw was keen longboarders surfing The Pass every morning or doing the lighthouse walk, dads teaching their groms to surf in kid-friendly waves and then getting their own barrels around the corner at Tallows, and parents walking the kids to school up the street passing Top Shop for their morning coffees."
“The vision continued with [making the most of] Byron’s best restaurants, all within walking distance, and knowing that festival and live bands are always in town."
Vision?
thermalben wrote:“The vision I saw was keen longboarders surfing The Pass every morning or doing the lighthouse walk, dads teaching their groms to surf in kid-friendly waves and then getting their own barrels around the corner at Tallows, and parents walking the kids to school up the street passing Top Shop for their morning coffees."
“The vision continued with [making the most of] Byron’s best restaurants, all within walking distance, and knowing that festival and live bands are always in town."
Vision?
There is 6 million visions right there
Hes another greedy developer .......but with a vision of getting greedier
udo wrote:https://www.realestate.com.au/news/pro-surfer-owen-wright-unveils-high-e...
So, should he not survive the cut, how will the producers of 'Make or Break' deal with this hard luck story?
hahaha, I know it shouldn't matter but I'm now finding it hard to muster up sympathy for Owen if he does get cut.
Sounds like he's found his true calling.
stunet wrote:udo wrote:https://www.realestate.com.au/news/pro-surfer-owen-wright-unveils-high-e...
So, should he not survive the cut, how will the producers of 'Make or Break' deal with this hard luck story?
Lol
I love how he’s doing it “for the families”.
Helluva guy.
My personal experience with him is that he’s quite entitled.
And I’ve heard the same from others.
Bit of a plug for a local cafe too. I wonder if he has an interest in that as well?
thermalben wrote:“The vision I saw was keen longboarders surfing The Pass every morning or doing the lighthouse walk, dads teaching their groms to surf in kid-friendly waves and then getting their own barrels around the corner at Tallows, and parents walking the kids to school up the street passing Top Shop for their morning coffees."
“The vision continued with [making the most of] Byron’s best restaurants, all within walking distance, and knowing that festival and live bands are always in town."
Vision?
Yeah….cause no one could do that before cnts started subdividing blocks into postage stamps and charging millions for pretentious buildings.
I wouldn’t have thought the power to visualise a situation which already exists was so noteworthy.
Whoda thought Mikeys the most likeable Wright?
"Young voters believe homeownership out of reach, name cost of living top priority"
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/young-voters-believe-homeownersh...
Fair bit of judgmental negativity creeping in to some posts. Tall poppies? I would've thought its a no brainer that anyone moving to these places back in the day and purchasing a property and holding on to it will receive some sort of windfall (or their heirs). Time in the market and all that. I'm sure some of the people being sledged have had setbacks in both life and business. Think brain injury/rehab, being stolen from i.e. embezzlement. Or overseas competition from cheap imports and other corporates. I say good luck to them. Not all beer and skittles.
I do not know any of the personalities being referred to, but I will share a true anecdote.
A few years ago my teenage son who worked in a surf shop was invited to a bash during Bell's it was put on by Dragon Sunglasses I think. He is tall and was waiting in the queue on the footpath to get in and felt a presence behind him. He looked at this really tall guy and then at the billboard behind them featuring this guys famous face and smiled. They stood there chatting for a few moments before the organizers finally realized that the main attraction was politely waiting in line with the punters and ushered him to the front. Apparently seemed embarrassed to be put in front of others. Wasn't entitled on that occasion.
nickca wrote:Fair bit of judgmental negativity creeping in to some posts. Tall poppies? I would've thought its a no brainer that anyone moving to these places back in the day and purchasing a property and holding on to it will receive some sort of windfall (or their heirs). Time in the market and all that. I'm sure some of the people being sledged have had setbacks in both life and business. Think brain injury/rehab, being stolen from i.e. embezzlement. Or overseas competition from cheap imports and other corporates. I say good luck to them. Not all beer and skittles.
I do not know any of the personalities being referred to, but I will share a true anecdote.
A few years ago my teenage son who worked in a surf shop was invited to a bash during Bell's it was put on by Dragon Sunglasses I think. He is tall and was waiting in the queue on the footpath to get in and felt a presence behind him. He looked at this really tall guy and then at the billboard behind them featuring this guys famous face and smiled. They stood there chatting for a few moments before the organizers finally realized that the main attraction was politely waiting in line with the punters and ushered him to the front. Apparently seemed embarrassed to be put in front of others. Wasn't entitled on that occasion.
Yes, now there's an attack on somebody's character because they're trying to make money in the property market. Classic!
I understand what you're getting at nickca, but anyone getting into high end luxury property development, no matter what their story is, is fair game for criticism. There's a housing crisis, a climate crisis, a biodiversity crisis, an inequality crisis, and this kind of development contributes to all of it. The Wrights might all be nice enough people, but they're rich as sin and Australia needs more class warfare not less.
Very well said, dandandan.
dandandan wrote:I understand what you're getting at nickca, but anyone getting into high end luxury property development, no matter what their story is, is fair game for criticism. There's a housing crisis, a climate crisis, a biodiversity crisis, an inequality crisis, and this kind of development contributes to all of it. The Wrights might all be nice enough people, but they're rich as sin and Australia needs more class warfare not less.
So what's the solution? Attack the Wright family? Ban them from buying a property? Seize their bank accounts...?
Do you agree with dandandans points flollo? I ask you the same question, what's the solution?
jwithay wrote:Do you agree with dandandans points flollo? I ask you the same question, what's the solution?
I 100% agree with the issues presented but disagree with the attack on someone's character because they will make money from a legally allowed exercise. If they used corruption and illegal means to develop the project then vilify them. But otherwise, take your issues to the government.
Solutions need to come from a planning authority that determines what can and cannot be developed. Basic concepts; if you want to address the housing shortage mandate the Wright project to develop a minimum of 100 units on that block so there are more residential options in the area. But no one will approve of that. People would rebel. Building a big apartment building will come with other negative issues. At the end of the day, every development application is reviewed and approved by a local council that works of its strategic plans. Here's a link to Byron Shire, you can review and see what their plan is and obviously, raise issues where applicable:
https://www.byron.nsw.gov.au/Services/Building-development/Plans-maps-an...
flollo wrote:dandandan wrote:I understand what you're getting at nickca, but anyone getting into high end luxury property development, no matter what their story is, is fair game for criticism. There's a housing crisis, a climate crisis, a biodiversity crisis, an inequality crisis, and this kind of development contributes to all of it. The Wrights might all be nice enough people, but they're rich as sin and Australia needs more class warfare not less.
So what's the solution? Attack the Wright family? Ban them from buying a property? Seize their bank accounts...?
I'd say criticize, not attack. Nobody is forcing the Wright family to become luxury property developers. It's a choice. Perhaps they'd choose not to chase personal profits through such means if they were criticized for it rather than celebrated in the way that property developers are in this country. It's pretty foul how access to waves, surfing, and surf lifestyle/aesthetics are wrapped up in it all
I agree with the notion that change needs to come from the political level, but that's not to the exclusion of other approaches. Particularly when planning authorities, councils, governments etc are so thoroughly captured by the interests of capital and property development. In the absence of being able to achieve immediate political change, corporate campaigning is a decent enough stop gap measure. I'm sure Owen Wright will still be a multi-millionaire if he decided against going ahead with the project. Housing is a human right, and it needs to stop being seen as a way to increase your wealth.
dandandan wrote:flollo wrote:dandandan wrote:I understand what you're getting at nickca, but anyone getting into high end luxury property development, no matter what their story is, is fair game for criticism. There's a housing crisis, a climate crisis, a biodiversity crisis, an inequality crisis, and this kind of development contributes to all of it. The Wrights might all be nice enough people, but they're rich as sin and Australia needs more class warfare not less.
So what's the solution? Attack the Wright family? Ban them from buying a property? Seize their bank accounts...?
I'd say criticize, not attack. Nobody is forcing the Wright family to become luxury property developers. It's a choice. Perhaps they'd choose not to chase personal profits through such means if they were criticized for it rather than celebrated in the way that property developers are in this country. It's pretty foul how access to waves, surfing, and surf lifestyle/aesthetics are wrapped up in it all
I agree with the notion that change needs to come from the political level, but that's not to the exclusion of other approaches. Particularly when planning authorities, councils, governments etc are so thoroughly captured by the interests of capital and property development. In the absence of being able to achieve immediate political change, corporate campaigning is a decent enough stop gap measure. I'm sure Owen Wright will still be a multi-millionaire if he decided against going ahead with the project. Housing is a human right, and it needs to stop being seen as a way to increase your wealth.
I see, you're basically saying that developing such projects is 'immoral'. And then going one step further and deciding to project your perception of morality onto others through criticism, all in the hope that they are ashamed enough not to proceed with their projects.
Well, all I will say is good luck with that. I would be very careful with such morality projections and I cannot subscribe to this chain of thought. I wish Owen the best of luck, I dont' know the guy and I find it unacceptable for me to attack his character.
"but the ability for families to live a stone’s throw away from one of the nicest beaches in the world.”
I think if Owen wants to peddle this shit to try to soften things and paint himself in as positive a light as he can, he's well open to criticism.
I've got no issues with him doing what he's doing, but don't bullshit me, don't piss on my back and tell me it's raining.
" Australia needs more class warfare not less."
Couldn't agree more.
First we've had neoliberalism glossing over and hiding class issues, now we have identity politics as a very poor substitute.
Class issues have never gone away and I'd venture to say that with continued wage suppression and housing issues, they're getting significantly worse.
I'm just jealous of him. Pro surfer, property developer, multi millionaire, hot wife.
House prices - going to go up , down or sideways ?
Opinions and anecdotal stories if you could.
Cheers