Snapper, Greeny, Kirra. Could the Crowd get WORSE - YEP!
Id wear a rashie with toadfishes comment written on it.
Was talking to a good mate from Dunedin yesterday who surfs Papas at 20 plus feet with a few great local crew...!
He explained that he is over all the hype now and has reverted to paddle as all the media keep getting in contact with himself t to publish shit, he reckons it a fucking night mare, thanks to a peanut called Doug Y....?
Anyways was talking about skis used in places south of Dunos when it is 6-8 ft to just ferry people back and forth, not at all to tow people in, but just to ferry people back out.
That is respect in my eyes and giving everyone a go IMO.
Respect and communication amongst the peers
'Hey Stu you have Occy's ear to batter with questions all next week, he's about as local as you get at Cooly these days... Surely he has an opinion on it?'
On that note, be sure to take a copy of the infamous 'dancing with the stars video', just to break the ice, and help get the conversation flowing.
Good call Uppity, love it.
You old school draughtsman you;)
Thanks heaps for the shoulder work out been using it heaps.
Some leggie attachments are coming in the post with some old school capital's, mind and pen stuff.
I think that ignorance of police, life guards and marine rescue play a part. All 3 have safety responsibility that means they should act, all 3 probably saw the jet skis at Kirra, yet none are bothered cause they probably think " cool the surfers are playing on their jet skis in the big pretty waves"......
heres the official respons abour jet ski's guys
Dear Sir
Concerns regarding Jet Skis in the Surfzone
Thank you for your email of 8 September 2014 regarding your concerns relating to the presence of Jet Skis at Kirra Point during the recent increased swell due to a low pressure system off the Gold Coast.
Lifeguards were patrolling on Jet Skis during the swell period and while they had a discussion with a couple of operators who were breaching the rules they did not witness any blatant or dangerous activities. There was also a photographer taking shots while idling. They monitored the situation for some time and continued their patrol.
I do appreciate your concerns and Council through the presence of lifeguard Jet Ski patrols based at Currumbin Alley has assisted in advising and educating Jet Ski operators of their responsibilities relating to the regulations. Your request for members of Surfing Qld/Australia and surf riding clubs to assist by ensuring surfers are aware of their responsibilities in this regard is a good idea.
Please feel free to seek the assistance of the Lifeguard Jet Ski patrols if you are concerned while surfing.
Yours faithfully
Warren Young PSM
CHIEF LIFEGUARD
For the Chief Executive Officer
Council of the City of Gold Coast
Good one Warren..........we kinda figured the increased swell was due to low pressure system off of the coast.......your lifeguards patrolling on skis did not witness any blatant or dangerous activities.....fuck mate the rest of surfers and spectators in the area/water did.
lifeguard jet ski patrols advising ski operators and educating re regulation and responsibilities......Umm I think that comes with gaining your PWC licence they are well aware of the rules.
The photog taking pics while idling............ virtually stationery eh Warren nothing illegal or dangerous happening there Wazza
Poor response Chief lifeguard.
Once again you guys have been making a mountain out of a mole hill, the authorities have the situation in control and always have had. To your untrained eyes it looks like a free for all, but it's not, so get on a ski or fuck off!!!
Lets move into the 21st century and ban paddle surfing at Kirra!
Once again I have to agree with Morris(common sense forces me too), if one wishes to paddle, they're building a wave pool for you up there, use that.
davetherave wrote:heres the official respons abour jet ski's guys
Dear SirConcerns regarding Jet Skis in the Surfzone
Thank you for your email of 8 September 2014 regarding your concerns relating to the presence of Jet Skis at Kirra Point during the recent increased swell due to a low pressure system off the Gold Coast.
Lifeguards were patrolling on Jet Skis during the swell period and while they had a discussion with a couple of operators who were breaching the rules they did not witness any blatant or dangerous activities. There was also a photographer taking shots while idling. They monitored the situation for some time and continued their patrol.
I do appreciate your concerns and Council through the presence of lifeguard Jet Ski patrols based at Currumbin Alley has assisted in advising and educating Jet Ski operators of their responsibilities relating to the regulations. Your request for members of Surfing Qld/Australia and surf riding clubs to assist by ensuring surfers are aware of their responsibilities in this regard is a good idea.
Please feel free to seek the assistance of the Lifeguard Jet Ski patrols if you are concerned while surfing.
Yours faithfully
Warren Young PSM
CHIEF LIFEGUARD
For the Chief Executive Officer
Council of the City of Gold Coast
Is that your answer stu?
Some fat-arsed bureaucrat defending his own inaction by saying "nothing to see here boys". So back to an earlier comment of mine: who are they protecting? well we know why = $$$.
Oh gosh... This has made my day... I called it, per my comment above the life guards ..,.
I think that ignorance of police, life guards and marine rescue play a part. All 3 have safety responsibility that means they should act, all 3 probably saw the jet skis at Kirra, yet none are bothered cause they probably think " cool the surfers are playing on their jet skis in the big pretty waves"......
These elite surfers are 'People of Calibre' on the Goldy and as such can do as they wish. It's all part of the 'Team Australia'mantra. Now get out of their way!
For all you pissed off fed up Gold Coast surfers (with good reason), here's an idea that may just bring some much needed attention to the issue.
At next years Quicksilver Pro at Snapper Rocks, as the first heat paddles out into the line up, get a pre organized large crowd of surfers (several hundred at least if possible) including some on jet skis, enter the contest area & totally disrupt the event. You will need enough people to ensure any event security are overwhelmed.
Ensure you have an organized articulate spokesperson to address the waiting watching surf media. The protest must be PEACEFUL, conducted in a safe manner & remain in place until the issues are at least heard & promised to be discussed in the near future.
Let's face it, it was the pros that were leading the way on the recent problems in the line ups by the sounds of it. This way the pros will get a taste of their own medicine & may just be prepared to listen along with all the other problem surfers.
Good luck!!
Rabbits68, Yeah I'm up,
Sounds like the year of the monkey idea;)
Rabbits68 great idea, can we extend it to include all pro circus marketing events so that the circus industry get the message loud and clear to fuck off
Occupy Snapper! Finding pissed off surfers shouldnt be a problem. I normally avoid the circus but if this happens I'll take the day off work
Do it boys you might get 150 pissed off surfers show up which will need 300 security persons to control/move, and the blame for the comp interruption goes to the main offenders Parko -Fanning- Morrison-The Mad Huey tools.......... and that Warren Young SLSC boss .
yew! would love to see that.
Its about time some wankers were told off proper. Surf lifesaving clubs think they own the coast, pretty selfish in my opinion.
I think slsc serve a great purpose but they need to take a much greater part in monitoring surfers I. The water. They should actively chase jet skis out of populated line ups - in line with legislation. They are blatantly breaking the law and disregarding safety of surfers in the line up. The life guards have responsibility that is broader than their bathing area! Even in the bathing, they are often in-effective, they have teeanage volunteers on the busy weekend who socialise and don't keep watch. I have pulled kids out of rips 3 times in Cronulla - twice in the bathing area and once an hr after if closed.
davetherave wrote:heres the official respons abour jet ski's guys
Dear SirConcerns regarding Jet Skis in the Surfzone
Thank you for your email of 8 September 2014 regarding your concerns relating to the presence of Jet Skis at Kirra Point during the recent increased swell due to a low pressure system off the Gold Coast.
Lifeguards were patrolling on Jet Skis during the swell period and while they had a discussion with a couple of operators who were breaching the rules they did not witness any blatant or dangerous activities. There was also a photographer taking shots while idling. They monitored the situation for some time and continued their patrol.
I do appreciate your concerns and Council through the presence of lifeguard Jet Ski patrols based at Currumbin Alley has assisted in advising and educating Jet Ski operators of their responsibilities relating to the regulations. Your request for members of Surfing Qld/Australia and surf riding clubs to assist by ensuring surfers are aware of their responsibilities in this regard is a good idea.
Please feel free to seek the assistance of the Lifeguard Jet Ski patrols if you are concerned while surfing.
Yours faithfully
Warren Young PSM
CHIEF LIFEGUARD
For the Chief Executive Officer
Council of the City of Gold Coast
That is an amazing response. I'm sure that if I started doing step offs from my ski on the South bank at Kurrawa SLSC during there National SLS Titles the response and applied penalties would be vastly different.
What speaks the loudest in my opinion is the complete lack of anyone condoning or defending it publicly. It suggests to me that we ALL know its wrong.. but until anyone actually cracks down on it or someone respected makes a stance that it will simply keep on keeping on.
How would Warren Young "manage" the event when there's 20 or 30 ski's out there??? Simple. He couldn't. And believe me, unless affirmative action is taken to stop it, THAT'S WHERE ITS HEADING!
While I never had a great deal to say about the Pro/Semi Pro crew down there...their complete lack of respect for their local is reprehensible. How's about teaching us blow ins how the waves have rules and they are there for all to share not this current crap where we sell our sole for Mad Huey Vision or Promo for RipCurl or Bbong.
It now feels very "Cape Solander like" to me. Do as I say not as I do.
Maybe action will be taken once someone is seriously injured or killed by a ski charging through the line up. These things usually take something really significant to happen (that could have been completely avoided) before action is taken......
davetherave wrote:How would Warren Young "manage" the event when there's 20 or 30 ski's out there??? Simple. He couldn't. And believe me, unless affirmative action is taken to stop it, THAT'S WHERE ITS HEADING!
FWIW I counted 11 skis from the hill and witnessed some brutal burnings.
EH Warren, i saw some blatant dangerous activities today at Kirra point on a surf cam from the safety of my lounge room.......
surfers with GoPros could you please film Warrens slsc toy boys on skis witnessing tmoros blatant dangerous activities at Kirra point.
Dont know how I missed this but sounds like a fucked situation . The ski has been allowing lots less able surfers to get into lineups and waves they never would have dreamed of in the past. As for pros who really should be getting all the best waves anyhow on an even playing field (everyone paddling) pretty pissweak fellas. Vote with your feet buy nothing from the company he or she rides for. The surf industry is almost on it,s knees (look at parko and sally f advertising fast food), its about time they started listening to the last of their customers- surfers. I have not bought anything by quicksilver in over 30yrs because of j patterson and his constant dropinns over years, nothing from rip curl since the gnarloo contest attempt, small protests and hasnt effected anything the companies bottom line no doubt but if everybody started doing the same ??? At least gives you a little personal satifaction if nothing else. These peoples jobs are to represent a company.Kind of like the opposite effect they are looking for. Never buying a jeep either.
Anyone see the footage from this week's swell at Kirra? Fanning, Parkinson Jr and a few other regulars getting shacked off their nuts? Couldn't help noticing at the end of one shot the jetski zooming in towards the impact zone, presumably to pick up whichever one it was pulling off the back after another spectacular barrel.
Took a screen shot but have no idea how to embed it into the post.
Yep, there was a tube of the year of Fanning at kirra ....very well edited by Craig Halstead....to leave the ski out of the start of the wave....not sure if it was a tow or jump off...but was very close to the paddle surfers.
stunet wrote:Here's a plan we've been hatching at Swellnet and would like to hear what you fellas think:
At the beginning of the Goldy surf season we'll release an article stating that on the first good day at Kirra a videographer will film all of the surfing and any illegal PWC activity, with a view to using the footage of illegal activity. We communicate this to the surfing community as widely as possible. It won't be a hollow threat, Swellnet will pay a videographer to film the action then give the footage to us. At the end of the day the videographers job is done, he collects his money and has no more attachment to the project. Their name is never released. If illegal activity is caught on film we'll trim the offending footage, record rego numbers etc, and then take it to the authorities. Meanwhile footage of paddle surfers getting barrelled can be edited into a clip.
The idea is that by communicating it first we send a warning. However if that isn't heeded then we actually back it up with action.
Thoughts? Criticisms...?
Over to you Stu, I await your article and video .........
When are you surfers up there going to tell Fanning and any other weaner getting towed in to fuck off. Time to take action or just shut up.
How about disrupting the circus event up there in a fortnight. What about 200 of you hitting the water everytime an offending circus monkey is in a heat.
Is Warren's club affiliated with the national life saving association? If yes, how about lobbying the national association to get the fat arse to do something?
You really expect Stu to go through with it floydy, you weren't supposed to remember.
Surf today Shaun ;-)))) . ?
Mmnnnnyeahh, Friday night was the pick of it though, pity is I can say best in months and we all know it was only average, glassy , junkie , double+ overhead waves on a lonely semi hard to find reef, just east of...................Ive said enough, you know where to find me.
The beer garden?
;)
Ahh Zen the beer garden,fond blurry memories,always offshore.........
From far too many past experiences .....
If it's offshore in the beer garden Friday night, come Saturday waves don't exist ...
Unless your at "the bluff " and every night is Friday night , and often someone has to drink the swell up !
Fairy-tale stuff Shaun . Saturday mid morning was miles better and twice as big .
So with everyone's (or should I say some more than others) arms weary from last weeks swell event a few mates and I got to thinking over the weekend.
There's been a bit of flack over the net about certain well known locals using ski's to the benefit of their respective wave count. Certainly a few of those "amazing" barrels were assisted on entry and with the crowd as it was, I'm not sure how the jet ski rules apply (?). So, seemingly as they don't for some...my mates decided this.
We're not south end locals but surf down there when, as was the case last week, there wasn't a lot of other options and with the media calling it best ever for such a long time who could blame us being bees to the honey pot.
So, we all decide to throw in some money to the total of say $100k = Say 10 jet skis +/- worth. We rent each ski at a hourly intervals. Say 8 hrs for each 10 hr day conservatively at $500ph giving each client 10 waves + for the hour. At 8 clients per day x $500 an hr = $4000 x 10 skis = $40k x 4 days = 160k!!!
Lets deduct fuel, rego, insurance (what insurance?) misc crap and lets say we use up all the $60k that's left. That's till leaves us 361 days of the year to make money and piss off everyone on the east coast.
Now the irony is, none of us are advocating this should be done BUT if some crew can, pro or not, than surely all crew can.
I didn't get burned by any ski's during the last swell, but a few did. Andy Mac and Co are pushing for the area as a surfing sanctuary surely everyone here who gets the benefit of its use should be entitled to the same opportunities. Its either going to be sore arms for all or we'll end up with everyone having jet ski assist (like the example above) instead of only the few now who IMO shouldn't. I personally think the pro guys should set this example or otherwise they may be sorry for the trend they started.
Just a thought I'd throw out to all. Flame suit on................
Spookypt