Desert Storm surfboard
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Thanks Drodders, that's the great thing about a fin box you can experiment with fin placement and fins, yeah keep us posted from time to time.
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Stopped at Webby's this morning and had a chat about a future Desert Storm. I was keen on a stubbier one, but he had a 7'4 x 19 1/4 sitting there waiting for a lucky customer, and it was so sleek and beautiful.
He shapes some shithot looking boards.
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Had the blue 6’10 out in some solid left handers on Wednesday in the Illawarra, secret spot for me and the 30 others in the water. First thing I want to say is the crowd was fantastic, friendly, courteous and happy, lots of waves, not joking either it was very relaxed.
Anyway back to the 6’10, rode it with 3D Josh Kerr quads (the ones with the dimples, very good fins feel low drag but good control and drive, small fins), it was unreal, fast smooth and fun. Session started with waves in the 4-6ft range (on the inside), very clean with the odd barrel section, DS killed it, caught waves easily, plenty of speed and easy to control and turn. It does not feel like it is 6’10 when you are on a wave, more like my previous 6’6, but definitely much easier than that board.
The swell really started to kick in along with the wind about 11 am, with sets pushing 2.5 OH with the odd bigger bomb, the ‘little DS’ was amazing, caught waves almost as well as the 7’6, handled chop really well and also with the 8” less board was much easier to swing for a wave as opportunity arose (you know old mate getting pitched etc.).
Last wave I caught was a solid 6 footer covered in foam from the bomb before and the whole set up was even good on that, good hold could turn with confidence and generate speed.
In summary as a 2+1 surfs well from waist high to OH, as a quad amazing for the waves it was designed for 4-8ft, I am sure it would easily handle 3xOH plus, but if it’s that big I will be on the 7’6. The 7’6 will be my board of choice for 6ft plus outside bank beach breaks and bombies where you need to cover lots of ground, but for reefs and points where the take-off point is well defined the 6’10 is the go.
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Thanks for the update Drodders, sounds like a great session. Got me thinking about a DS in earnest!
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god I need one of those .
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Fr thought you had one?
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Yeah, I mean another one, a smaller one. Was thinking a 6'9".
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!st pic on webbys insta 6'8 @ 43 lt
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Any reports/reviews of the Wacko?
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Saw a great looking 6"8 webster......a bit thinner and lighter......but still thick threw the nose big paddler for sure....... the Desertstorm thruster pro model....
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Do any of you know where I can buy a stretch or sock style board cover for my 9'6" x 21' gun?
I'd prefer to buy one rather than pay someone to re-shape a longboard cover.
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Surfstitch..about $60 .
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Thanks Udo
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Have any of you ridden/fondled both a Desert Storm and Black Hula? I'm curious about the differences, and I forgot to ask Webby when I was there.
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Great stuff caml.
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I second that, great insight Cam.
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Caml you ever tried a Balsa board..gun or shortboard ?
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Thank you, Camel. Very generous of you to give us all that info, and so interesting to read and geek out on.
Cheers!
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fine analysis Caml.
V helpful.
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6'2 Desert Storm @39L and 4'10 Foil board
Webbys Insta
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That orange 6'2 looks incredible. There's a couple of spots around here that would it would suit to a tee.
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Nice Eh...Wish Webby would also show pics of the Boards Foil.
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Thick all the way, Udo :-)
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Wasn't The Shaun riding one of these types of shapes for his normal board? It was sort of featured a couple of years ago at Trestles I think when he was there for the contest. It seemed to have that 70's, high volume beaky front end. He is a front foot surfer so makes sense and he said it was ideal for an old fart as he reckons he couldn't ride a typical comp board these days. I just wonder if they would be too corky for a smaller wave board. You could certainly catch waves but probably couldn't do much on them.
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Long time lurker of this thread but the recent article tipped me over the edge and I've ordered a very chunky 8'0 DS, I'm very excited to see it. Hoping there is enough swell to justify taking it to indo in August - otherwise looking forward to some swell at home finally!
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Would the little ones like 6'2 be too floaty for barreling slabs?
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Luke69 i think the 6"2 would have limits depending on your paddling ability. If the waves were big you might want a bit more paddle speed than a 6"2 allows. Check out Websters "sniper" perhaps ?
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Udo the foil pictures are on his webby website under gun models..
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Yep Clam i have seen those..i would like to see DS foil pic on his insta of each board
i have heard some ask for a custom DS minus the Beak nose or a toned down Beak.
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6'10 x 19 3/4 x 3 DS coming up soon. Getting hard to contain the froth!
I have gone with FCS2 - against Caml's gospel - as my other boards are FCS/FCS2. Will try medium AM quads first, but would be very keen to hear your suggestions.
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Udo , Anyone that wants a pointed nose on their desert storm has ruined the design .
That i suppose is their choice to create a deadly weapon. It will lose all safety warranty (just joking) and they cant call it a desert storm- They can rename it a desert spear.
The problems not only can you stab yourself, it can stab someone else in the surf and thats a bit rude to have it hit someone else . If its a heavy glassed board..a deadly weapon sharp nose, sharp fins .
Be careful and just round em all off please. Less injuries all around for everyone
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Yes i agree ..what i meant was a bit finer nose in thickness but still keeping the rounded safety side of it
Although the Big Beaks are growing on me.
That 2 inch of nose point does nothing except be a Dangerous Projectile...time for a World Wide round nose safety standard in the industry .
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Udo ok yeah that would work no worries. Most of the DS webbys making are refined unless you ask for the full maximum proportions.
A lot of board designs have a blunt or round nose nowadays, they're everywhere you look . it is much better to wrestle with the board during a wipeout.
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Yeah i agree udo , although they look faster. its not so cool in crowded surf when others could get stabbed really.
If its not an important part of performance design why bother. Our fins have to be fairly sharp to work so not so much of a choice there unfortunately. There is options but thats for another time / subject
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New Topic in Wax On then.
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3 d-storms ,
i helped to design these recently.
with my prefered thinner ply stringers for a bit of flex on lightweight gun mode. Glassed with double layer cloth both sides with ( 6+6 + 6 /4 on smaller one) but 6+6/6+6 for bigger ones
future/5 box combo.
The 3 sizes spaced, by more than 5 litres
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very nice.
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Picking my 6'10 up on Friday. So jazzed up.
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Cheers...tis a Beefy bugger !
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It is, Udo. 6’10 x 19 3/4 x 3, but the rails feel good. Whack it under your arm, and it feels like a normal board, but yes there’s some meat in there.
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First surf on the 6'10 DS today.
Conditions really should have been better, but I couldn't wait to give it a go. 4ft and quite powerful, but 25kt onshore with lots of lump and bump.
The DS really is a Cadillac; so silky smooth and stable, gliding through anything in front of it. Gives me great hope for when my local looks perfect from shore, but in reality has 25kt offshores and massive chop.
What surprised the most was how nimble it was, easily laying into full RH cutbacks when I thought it might have bogged or felt 'tracky'.
I can still be duck dived, although it'd be hard work in relentless beach break.
Paddles like a dream, feeling more like a 7'6.
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Good to hear...saw a old pic on Ross Marshalls insta which made me think of a chunky DS and its beak.
cabacronulla insta
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Looks unreal IB. How thick?
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Can that, just read your comment further up.
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Two sessions on the 6'10 today.
First one solid 4-5ft groundy, with a hint of devil wind at times, but mostly clean. Ooowee, that was fun! Solid drives off the bottom, very satisfying carves off the top, and lots of time to set up a good cover up over the dry inside section. Great to finally surf it in really powerful waves, and nice to feel that I'm far from finding its limits.
Second session inco 3-4ft, howling devil wind, blinding low winter sun. Normally I wouldn't bother with my local in these conditions, as the takeoff is impossible, and you can't get going through the chop anyway, but the DS is such a good chop buster, that I actually had a really fun time. I was hoping it would handle these awful conditions, and it did.
6 surfs on it so far, and it's been a hoot. Dreaming of a sleeker 6'4, and an 8'something too.
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Thickness of the board give you much grief in the chop?
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Nope. Never had better in chop.
My local gets hell chop - it's 600m offshore, and the wind blows 45deg up the face, and we're in the windiest city in the world - and the DS is easily the best I've surfed out there in 17 years of longitudinal study.
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Hoping to get the ds in the water tomorrow and next week.
Exciting stuff considering I haven’t been in the water much of late
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"Desert Storm" shaped by Wayne Webster
Ridden and designed by the "Camel"