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basesix wrote:

unreal you're here again @Refom, stick around.

Cheers mate, sometimes I find it important to share an insight, and I do, and sometimes ill watch the eb and flo without getting involved. But it's good. And you guys are just too good that Im really stoked to just idly watch by..
Commenting on here.. I find voicing up is a challenge .. but can be fun too as I like to get a bit spiritual in a non-denominational kind of way.. stay well! cheers

Oh! The spud!! Ha! Excellent analogy! Going.. going ...gone!

thank you @Reform. Always have enjoyed your posts, seems it might be a more real-engaged and creative-thought (rather than imbecilic re-posting) fray that you might be throwing yourself into now, too.

Careful reform, it's a vortex. :)
Appreciate the posts btw.

Looking around to see who didn’t make Stu’s mid-season cut…

Sexxyjeff was paying $1:01 on the live odds last night.

Be nice to see some of the past regulars like goofyfoot come back with a wildcard entry.

VicLocal vs Blowin for a masters heat.

Reform wrote:

Oh! The spud!! Ha! Excellent analogy! Going.. going ...gone!

Yes, the spud, just like when you step on a dog turd. It gets your full attention, it's loathsome, it smells and can leave a rancid stain on your shoe if left on for too long but eventually you find a hose and wash it all off thinking "phew that stinks, glad to get rid of that foul piece of crud" and never think about it again until you see another turd lying on the ground and make sure to step around it while thinking "not going to step in that shit again", lesson learned, hopefully.

andy-mac wrote:

Careful reform, it's a vortex. :)
Appreciate the posts btw.

Thanks guys..cheers The vortex ride, yes how true, ha! It's okay if there's colour. An escape ramp would be helpful! And if what is portrayed is decent and makes a difference.. cant be any harm in that.

Btw, If Stu has banned Indo-dreaming, he'd be doing him a massive favour. That guy needs to seriously change his ways. Take a course Indo.. Educate yourself, give your kids something to aspire to, and be proud of their dad. Adam12 provided excellent advice for this guy. Imagine the quality time he could have with his family, his wife, his kids, time spent to be with them, not behind the computer... for the time will pass, as it does with opportunity lost.

The comedy is just getting started, some cat fights coming up .

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@info sin-binned? Wow, it must have been massive! If he has I also hope he takes up @reform's and @adam12's suggestions. Many have seriously questioned the worm holes his social media algorithms take him down over the years and SN did provide a useful "reality check" to his stridently held views. Yeah, hoping he refocuses in a positive way.

Stu's explanation for what happened doesn't really sound like indo behaviour tbh. Although he did go hunting for dirt on me, albeit fruitlessly. Anyway, as much as I like to speculate, I'm gonna shut up now. #freepalestine

My conspiracy theory is , indo gave someone on PI a huge spray believing they were GS .

burleigh wrote:

Sexxyjeff was paying $1:01 on the live odds last night.

No he wasn’t nudedog ?

Losing money always seemed so boring ,
Whatever floats your boat.

This is like playing dog nugget bingo in the backyard when you haven't mowed recently.

I laughed mightily over that comment ^^ @blackers as it reminded me of my mate's experiences whipper snipping long grass and being sprayed head to foot with "loose" dog shit!!

Fliplid wrote:

Reform wrote:

Oh! The spud!! Ha! Excellent analogy! Going.. going ...gone!

Yes, the spud, just like when you step on a dog turd. It gets your full attention, it's loathsome, it smells and can leave a rancid stain on your shoe if left on for too long but eventually you find a hose and wash it all off thinking "phew that stinks, glad to get rid of that foul piece of crud" and never think about it again until you see another turd lying on the ground and make sure to step around it while thinking "not going to step in that shit again", lesson learned, hopefully.

"Not going to step in that shit again" Absolutely not! Or instead of the diversion, just make sure it's binned!

This was posted on the Guardian live blog a few minutes ago, by Adam Morton...

"An Indigenous traditional owner has launched legal action in a bid to force the new environment minister, Murray Watt, to address whether ancient rock art should be protected before he makes a decision on a major gas development.

Raelene Cooper, a Mardathoonera woman from Murujuga country on Western Australia’s Burrup peninsula, has asked the federal court to compel Watt to make a determination on what is known as a “section 10” cultural heritage assessment that began three years ago.

Cooper requested the assessment of Murujuga’s cultural heritage, particularly one of the world’s largest and oldest rock carving collections. The area has an estimated 1m petroglyphs, some of which are believed to be nearly 50,000 years old.

The assessment was commissioned by the previous environment minister, Tanya Plibersek. Cooper said an independent reporter assigned to do the assessment submitted findings to the government in June 2023.

She said Watt should have to respond to the report before deciding on whether to allow Woodside Energy to extend the life of its North West Shelf gas processing facility from 2030 to 2070. Watt has promised that decision - which has been delayed - will be made by 31 May.

Cooper said she was “furious” Watt could make a decision that could lock in “ongoing and irreversible damage to my country” without addressing the cultural heritage application.

I am sickened that the Minster would make such a decision without even paying us the respect of coming here to meet with the custodians of this place, and without even seeing the incredible Murujuga rock art with his own eyes.

A government spokesperson said they were aware of the legal action."

This is just another of the actions where the rubber hits the road for me and my view of the ALP, this decision by Watt.
What fkn use is a Labor government that is prepared to approve such a polluting and destructive development in favor of Woodside when they accept the scientific evidence of the impact of this massive gas project on the climate, while the Mid North Coast is underwater and killing people and destroying the landscape and homes and livelihoods of Australians, and another significant cultural site is going to be destroyed, like Rio Tinto's destruction of Juukan Gorge.
I have no doubt that the ALP will approve this shit, the writing was on the wall when Albanese shuffled Plibersek out of the portfolio to install Watt.
Tax and royalty revenue is not a justification for the damage this project will cause in the atmosphere and on the ground.
Criminal Law has a concept called "malice aforethought", it's the mental state required to commit a crime, like murder, the "mens rea" or guilty mind, and it includes a realisation that death or serious harm will be a vitrually certain result of an act.
This approval would be made with that state of mind.
Fucking criminals.
Fuck Albanese and his Pope blessed mother's rosary beads.
They are worse than the criminals in the LNP in my view, because they pretend to give a shit, but don't, at least the LNP don't pretend to care.

GuySmiley wrote:

I laughed mightily over that comment ^^ @blackers as it reminded me of my mate's experiences whipper snipping long grass and being sprayed head to foot with "loose" dog shit!!

There is a lesson to be learned there, Guy.

blackers wrote:

This is like playing dog nugget bingo in the backyard when you haven't mowed recently.

Looks like @Blackers might be having some digestive issues
What are you feeding him/her/it. ?,

adam12 wrote:

This was posted on the Guardian live blog a few minutes ago, by Adam Morton...

"An Indigenous traditional owner has launched legal action in a bid to force the new environment minister, Murray Watt, to address whether ancient rock art should be protected before he makes a decision on a major gas development.

Raelene Cooper, a Mardathoonera woman from Murujuga country on Western Australia’s Burrup peninsula, has asked the federal court to compel Watt to make a determination on what is known as a “section 10” cultural heritage assessment that began three years ago.

Cooper requested the assessment of Murujuga’s cultural heritage, particularly one of the world’s largest and oldest rock carving collections. The area has an estimated 1m petroglyphs, some of which are believed to be nearly 50,000 years old.

The assessment was commissioned by the previous environment minister, Tanya Plibersek. Cooper said an independent reporter assigned to do the assessment submitted findings to the government in June 2023.

She said Watt should have to respond to the report before deciding on whether to allow Woodside Energy to extend the life of its North West Shelf gas processing facility from 2030 to 2070. Watt has promised that decision - which has been delayed - will be made by 31 May.

Cooper said she was “furious” Watt could make a decision that could lock in “ongoing and irreversible damage to my country” without addressing the cultural heritage application.

I am sickened that the Minster would make such a decision without even paying us the respect of coming here to meet with the custodians of this place, and without even seeing the incredible Murujuga rock art with his own eyes.

A government spokesperson said they were aware of the legal action."

This is just another of the actions where the rubber hits the road for me and my view of the ALP, this decision by Watt.
What fkn use is a Labor government that is prepared to approve such a polluting and destructive development in favor of Woodside when they accept the scientific evidence of the impact of this massive gas project on the climate, while the Mid North Coast is underwater and killing people and destroying the landscape and homes and livelihoods of Australians, and another significant cultural site is going to be destroyed, like Rio Tinto's destruction of Juukan Gorge.
I have no doubt that the ALP will approve this shit, the writing was on the wall when Albanese shuffled Plibersek out of the portfolio to install Watt.
Tax and royalty revenue is not a justification for the damage this project will cause in the atmosphere and on the ground.
Criminal Law has a concept called "malice aforethought", it's the mental state required to commit a crime, like murder, the "mens rea" or guilty mind, and it includes a realisation that death or serious harm will be a vitrually certain result of an act.
This approval would be made with that state of mind.
Fucking criminals.
Fuck Albanese and his Pope blessed mother's rosary beads.
They are worse than the criminals in the LNP in my view, because they pretend to give a shit, but don't, at least the LNP don't pretend to care.

And the WA premier should be ashamed of himself pressuring Albanese on behalf of Woodside. Is he our premier or a fucking lobbyist. Now we know.

Wow, we have a new Captain Non-sequitur. It's a natural canine behaviour, Jeffy, unlike your desire to repeatedly post the "products" of such behaviour.

adam12 wrote:

This was posted on the Guardian live blog a few minutes ago, by Adam Morton...

"An Indigenous traditional owner has launched legal action in a bid to force the new environment minister, Murray Watt, to address whether ancient rock art should be protected before he makes a decision on a major gas development.

Raelene Cooper, a Mardathoonera woman from Murujuga country on Western Australia’s Burrup peninsula, has asked the federal court to compel Watt to make a determination on what is known as a “section 10” cultural heritage assessment that began three years ago.

Cooper requested the assessment of Murujuga’s cultural heritage, particularly one of the world’s largest and oldest rock carving collections. The area has an estimated 1m petroglyphs, some of which are believed to be nearly 50,000 years old.

The assessment was commissioned by the previous environment minister, Tanya Plibersek. Cooper said an independent reporter assigned to do the assessment submitted findings to the government in June 2023.

She said Watt should have to respond to the report before deciding on whether to allow Woodside Energy to extend the life of its North West Shelf gas processing facility from 2030 to 2070. Watt has promised that decision - which has been delayed - will be made by 31 May.

Cooper said she was “furious” Watt could make a decision that could lock in “ongoing and irreversible damage to my country” without addressing the cultural heritage application.

I am sickened that the Minster would make such a decision without even paying us the respect of coming here to meet with the custodians of this place, and without even seeing the incredible Murujuga rock art with his own eyes.

A government spokesperson said they were aware of the legal action."

This is just another of the actions where the rubber hits the road for me and my view of the ALP, this decision by Watt.
What fkn use is a Labor government that is prepared to approve such a polluting and destructive development in favor of Woodside when they accept the scientific evidence of the impact of this massive gas project on the climate, while the Mid North Coast is underwater and killing people and destroying the landscape and homes and livelihoods of Australians, and another significant cultural site is going to be destroyed, like Rio Tinto's destruction of Juukan Gorge.
I have no doubt that the ALP will approve this shit, the writing was on the wall when Albanese shuffled Plibersek out of the portfolio to install Watt.
Tax and royalty revenue is not a justification for the damage this project will cause in the atmosphere and on the ground.
Criminal Law has a concept called "malice aforethought", it's the mental state required to commit a crime, like murder, the "mens rea" or guilty mind, and it includes a realisation that death or serious harm will be a vitrually certain result of an act.
This approval would be made with that state of mind.
Fucking criminals.
Fuck Albanese and his Pope blessed mother's rosary beads.
They are worse than the criminals in the LNP in my view, because they pretend to give a shit, but don't, at least the LNP don't pretend to care.

Thanks Adam12,
Jump on it people.. it matters.. it matters alot! Once destroyed its destroyed forever.
I posted this audio above but, posting it again here.. if you can spend the time to have a listen.. it really is a telling tale, put it on in the evening, send it or listen to it with your kids, its educational and is a story that must be told.. This fracking business... its deadly serious!!!

blackers wrote:

GuySmiley wrote:

I laughed mightily over that comment ^^ @blackers as it reminded me of my mate's experiences whipper snipping long grass and being sprayed head to foot with "loose" dog shit!!

There is a lesson to be learned there, Guy.

There sure is @blackers, if it looks, smells, feels and tastes like dog shit don't step in it ... apologies to all for remembering a primary school joke :()

blackers wrote:

Wow, we have a new Captain Non-sequitur. It's a natural canine behaviour, Jeffy, unlike your desire to repeatedly post the "products" of such behaviour.

Your the one who started the conversation about whipper snippers and flying dog turds
Ah but you’re one of the goody guys,
Toilet humour is the lowest form of humour?

Can you just not, Sexxy?

Confusion wrote:

blackers wrote:

Wow, we have a new Captain Non-sequitur. It's a natural canine behaviour, Jeffy, unlike your desire to repeatedly post the "products" of such behaviour.

Your the one who started the conversation about whipper snippers and flying dog turds
Ah but you’re one of the goody guys,
Toilet humour is the lowest form of humour?

4 years 336 days for 82% renewables in the grid as promised, he needs Gas don't start whinging now!
You wait til he drops the bomb the coal stations will need to stay open another 10 years ha!
We are going to wrap this albatross round his scrawny little neck so tight!!

Peter Reynolds wrote:

4 years 336 days for 82% renewables in the grid as promised, he needs Gas don't start whinging now!
You wait til he drops the bomb the coal stations will need to stay open another 10 years ha!
We are going to wrap this albatross round his scrawny little neck so tight!!

I think you should change your liberal diet, you are so full of gas.

Coal. Are you joking, an archaic form of energy production, we call ourselves a developed country and you want to pedal out that shit.
Selfish attitude from a selfish country, low elevation islands would rather you not.

I suppose you’re probably from QLD, not the Sunshine State, the Polluters State.
You burn high grade black coal and export it all over the planet.
No wonder your state is debt free.
If you’re happy sitting on a trillion black balloons, do it, be careful when they all start to pop.
Talk about backwards in the brain department. AW

AlfredWallace wrote:

Peter Reynolds wrote:

4 years 336 days for 82% renewables in the grid as promised, he needs Gas don't start whinging now!
You wait til he drops the bomb the coal stations will need to stay open another 10 years ha!
We are going to wrap this albatross round his scrawny little neck so tight!!

I think you should change your liberal diet, you are so full of gas.

Coal. Are you joking, an archaic form of energy production, we call ourselves a developed country and you want to pedal out that shit.
Selfish attitude from a selfish country, low elevation islands would rather you not.

I suppose you’re probably from QLD, not the Sunshine State, the Polluters State.
You burn high grade black coal and export it all over the planet.
No wonder your state is debt free.
If you’re happy sitting on a trillion black balloons, do it, be careful when they all start to pop.
Talk about backwards in the brain department. AW

Alfredo, we actually have some things in common you know, you and I, we want the best for our country and all its people.
I agree with you on a lot of things believe it or not, just a different way of getting there.
I don't want coal burning (nearly) as much as you do, but I look at things in a more pragmatic way, we need to, for a while.
I would love for renewable energy to 100% supply all of our power needs in this country, but pragmatism and physics tells me that is impossible.
The labor party have lied to you, they have told you what you want to hear.
I think your a good bloke, not that you care what I think, but your an ex formworker, my old man was one too, suspended slabs, I lifted props and frames for 25 years whilst studying, I know how hard you blokes work and have enormous respect for you guys.
We want the same thing mate, just different tracks on how to get there.

@Peter,
I'm not naive as to the need for gas to support renewables in the grid during the transition to clean energy but do you really think that is what Woodside are fracking for?
It's profit, they will liquify it and sell it, and mask the donations they make to political parties to support the profit they make from it.
And politicians like Watt will "consider" these kind of decisions and approve it in full knowledge of the damage it will cause.
It's not a left/right or culture war issue to me, it's the deception and the self destructive ignorance that our generation seems to enable that concerns me really. The science on climate change is clear yet we continue to ignore it, or our leaders do, and then the pocket pissing they do to justify that ignorance and mask the problem in culture war terminology and political positioning and diversion I just find extremely frustrating. I don't like being lied to, particularly by people who take on leadership then don't lead, like the ALP are doing on this. It makes me think that they think I am a fucking idiot. That boils my blood.
The Minns NSW government gave a coal mine extension today, justifying it with a heap of bullshit and "offsets". Energy Australia had to settle a court case last week admitting that offsets were bullshit.
Around and around we go, except where we end we already know.
Burning down the house.
And destroying more of humanity's history like it is something that is insignificant compared to annual profit on a company balance sheet, executive bonuses and shareholder returns. Burn the future, destroy the past, ignore our stewardship of both, and that of the animal kingdom, the beauty of nature, for fucking money.
It may be an altruistic and now impossible objective to repair or reverse the path we are on, but don't fucking lie to me like our political classes seem to want to do, and pretend that you are serious about combating it.
Like those that say Australia contributes fuck all to emissions when we are the world's second largest coal exporter and sign off on developments like the one Watt will approve this month, and Albo stop giving FNP artwork gifts to the Pope when your Environment Minister is about to allow an ASX profit machine to destroy 50,000 year old petroglyphs.
I've got to go do and think about something else now, this pisses me off too much.

burleigh wrote:

VicLocal vs Blowin for a masters heat.

That's pretty good Burleigh, had a laugh.

Peter Reynolds wrote:

None of that is going to matter one iota Andy when our steelworks industry can't power up and our economy goes into freefall, as I said it doesn't matter if you support it or not, it's going to happen.

We would need an industrial base the size of South Korea or bigger with a massive base load 24hrs a day so 1 gigawatt to1.5 gigawatt units could be built even then power would not be cheap, that's using today technology.

The current proposal by the Nationals is 100% politics nothing more, its totally fu(king stupid by any measurement.
On top of that even if with nuclear power stations were built in Australia the power systems still requires up 60% renewables plus short fall covered by gas.

The anything but renewables argument again is pure politics IMHO just dumb fu(k stupid.

Confusion wrote:

blackers wrote:

Wow, we have a new Captain Non-sequitur. It's a natural canine behaviour, Jeffy, unlike your desire to repeatedly post the "products" of such behaviour.

Your the one who started the conversation about whipper snippers and flying dog turds
Ah but you’re one of the goody guys,
Toilet humour is the lowest form of humour?

“If you want to pet that old hound dog
make sure he aren’t rolled in shit”

“If you're going to mess
Around with that chick
Be sure to close the barn door
Try to not spook the horse
Make sure she ain't rolled in shit“

https://m.

'bout sums it up.