Vaccinate or not

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Supafreak started the topic in Tuesday, 24 Nov 2020 at 6:20pm

I was a little shocked at Alan Joyce (CEO Qantas) announcement that international travelers will be required to have a covid 19 vaccination in order to travel on Qantas flights . The government wanted to have mandatory vaccination but after the bumbling of its release ( it was painful to watch the delivery of that announcement ) they withdrew the mandatory part but it seems Qantas and other business may demand a vaccination in order to use their services. I’m not anti vaccine by any means I just don’t trust this government or a vaccine that has been rushed through. A jab followed by another jab followed by yearly jabs doesn’t sit well with me as I have never had a flu shot or the flu for more than 20 years. Plus I don’t want to give this shot to my healthy 4 year old daughter. She is up to date with all her vaccinations but this covid vaccine is new and not being around for decades like the others. Tuberculosis remains the number one as far diseases go and you don’t need proof of vaccination to travel so what is going on ?

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 1:50pm

Its really not a big deal. It’s just a needle, it won’t hurt much. Let’s just take the effing thing and move on...

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tubeshooter Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 5:20pm

Whether I get it or not is no ones business but my own. Both sides can preach all they like , but I won't make that decision based on any condescending moral lectures either way.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:16pm

Just so long as you didn’t preach for people to lose their jobs and their youth last year to protect you, like what’s happened to my immediate family, and then turn around and say get stuffed I’m not going to return the favour.
My argument from the beginning was that it’s no ones business but their own to save themselves and if you wanted protection then go into your own personal lockdown.
If you called for the lockdown then it’s time to return the favour to those that sacrificed for you

Are you Karen from Bunnings?

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tubeshooter Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:28pm

I haven't preached anything. My point is you might catch more flies with honey rather than insulting the audience your'e trying to reach. And that works for both sides of the argument.
As for the Karen thing ,, I'll let that one slide for now.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 7:48pm

Nah you’re taking it too seriously.
I’m just pointing out what’s fair.
I just don’t believe it’s right to call on someone to do some work for you, you get the result you asked for, then refuse to pay for it.
It’s just a effing vaccine shot, like we’ve all had before, and the country is going all soft on us when we finally get to the line. Let’s just step over the line.
It was the reason for everything we’ve done the last 12 months.
It’s so simple

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goofyfoot Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:02pm

Shoredump - "It’s time for teamwork, it’s time to help do some of the lifting."

Didn't we all do that by not working or seeing our friends and family last year? Dunno where you are but in Victoria it sure felt like we did..

Isn't it a personal choice if you want to be vaccinated? You're pressing pretty hard for everyone to do it. I won't be, being mid 30's and fit and healthy, either will my partner seeing as she's pregnant. Especially as she's pregnant. If i was my grandfathers age it would be a different story.
Im not an anti-vaxxer either, been jabbed plenty of times. So has my kid.

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:37pm

I’m pressing for anyone who called for lockdown to get a vaccine.
My daughter didn’t need or want a lockdown but she did that for others (Those that called for a lockdown) Now her University campus is shut till the vax rollout. If everyone is equal to you, what does that mean?

Of course it’s better for you personally not to get it, your 30, my point is what’s best for everyone as a whole. It’s best I don’t get it also considering I clot easily.

Where do you think Australia and the world we be in 5 years time if no one else from tonight gets a vaccine. Getting the vaccine is the way out, whether your at risk or not
If the whole world were to get it then thats the best chance to shut it right down.

What will you not getting the vaccine achieve in moving forward out of the current situation?
It’s actually not about you or me it’s about us as a whole and it’s about suppressing the virus as best we can

The people getting the vaccine will be part of the solution in closing off the virus somewhat
The people not getting the vaccine will stretch the pain of the last 12 months out even further
That’s why I’ve put energy into this cause I thought it was going to be a given that we’d all be on board

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goofyfoot Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 8:42pm

Thats a good response shoredump and I don't know the answers to be honest.
One thing I've learned since covid started is that nothings a given.
Is your daughter getting the jab just out of interest?

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shoredump Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 9:03pm

Of course, she wants to help beat covid

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truebluebasher Saturday, 1 May 2021 at 9:33pm

Irresponsible Covid Gigs

tbb watched the news & thought the Brizzo Mutant Trap looked suss...went back for 2nd Look.
Brisbane Airport Mutant Trap > (9 Vid #2 Pause 0:58) [ Sign of the Times ] Very Clever Trap that one!
Green Zone [STOP- you are entering a Red Zone re: Green Door- Please Use Other Door] Green Zone
Red Hot Mutant was trapped then had to burst thru one the Green Bubbles. D'oh! (Brainz! Brainz!)

Israel : 100 Limit / 100,000 VIP Vax Only Entry = 5,000 Cops block exits - 150 in Hospital / 45 Dead

UK : 5,000 No Vax Gig- Social Science Experiment / Lazy DIY Test / Screw Masks & Scrap SD > J21

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 2:27am

Otherworldly Covid / Vax Timetable.
Pre vax
Athletes are advised to take shots post Comp or early Season due to Muscle pain > Damage.
Min' of 7hrs/day sleep is needed for antibodies to ward off Virus (6 hrs = 11.5x less vax protection)
World Sleep - 7hrs - NZ / Oz / UK / Europe + China > 6.45 hrs Sth America > 6.15 hrs Asia
24hr Covid Air-bridges = Share least sleep that is vital to produce antibodies for Vax immunity.
Japan / Sth Korea / Emirates / Philippines / Malaysia / Egypt / India / Taiwan / Singapore / Hong Kong

Frontline Covid Workforce Phase 1 / 2 (Sleep 4-5 hrs) Border / Transit / Health / Police / Care / Food
World Travel Gateway Vaxed Frontline are 11.5 x most Covid infectious / contagious population
Up until relaying this....never heard a word about it...yet it's so obviously #1/2/3 crisis in the making.
Check all you like...Science is solid on Sleep deprived World #1 Vaxed Frontline having no immunity.

Diets & exercises building immunity & blood flow to prime defences for onset of vax.
Not proven, but generally accepted to reduce clotting.

Once a person is infected or vaccinated with a 'like' (Spike) version of any virus it reacts similar.
Many vaccinated report similar Viral symptoms to Flu & Covid.
Vax by design exhausts and weakens the Vaxer as fodder for the real virus.
Health officials in Oz / US & more were all floored & isolated for days by vax.

Coincidentally around half society (mostly the strongest) suffer 50% instant reactions.
Jury is out if this Physical reaction shows a better stronger protective immunity.
Feel free to scream & cry when being shows yer tuff.

During Vax phase
Athletes vax on weak side & endurance Athletes require prolonged observation time for fainting.
Every Med' Scientist agrees to rest for 2 days during immediate post vax damage phase.
Punters book Monday am cont...9 days off work ...Ain't no one vaxing on Fridays...tbb checked!
Vaxed athletes postpone training 3 days - 10 days minimum for Comps ( Add time for 2nd dose).

Cycle Threshold or Genome testing can best measure your Viral Load / Infection risk.
tbb's rare home made CT timetable >

Day 1/2 - Incubation - Fever / Aches

Days 3-5 - Antibodies kick in!
Any ongoing Patient diagnosed discomfort reaction will likely involve breathing difficulty

Day 6 - Is usually when a Patient would present themselves to Hospital with restricted chest.
Again! Your body don't care if it's Vax or Virus.

Day 7 Peak (CT 15) Due to weakened state, a patient / vaxer is 70% more open to further infection
(Note: Oz / Govts ask no vaxer to isolate & award Full Immunity here at 70% infection) see below!
It falls 100% short of recommended Covid Vax immunity...what more can you say!

Day 8 (The Bullet Proof Spreader) Vaxer is 25% more vulnerable up to 60% infectious
Feb 2020 : UK Teams in Israel "Warned" of day 8 vaccinated spiking Phase 1 Outbreak x2.
Vulnerable Vaxers sponge & spread 2x virus to herds more 2x vulnerable multiplying to an Outbreak!
Upon this, Vaxers kick reactions & being lulled by a false sense of immunity superspread the virus.
Govts hurriedly pour more Vax to stem the cases, unknowingly igniting the Outbreak...(Common!)
Day 8 - Vaxer is still 25% vulnerable & up to 60% more exposed to Covid than a non vaxed person.
Despite soaring Death toll, no one has called to isolate these most open to viral infection patients.
Just saying...this plays out before us each & every day but few see it or they refuse to see it!
No Govt will ever isolate a vaxer...continue closing their eyes & washing their hands! ...Tomorrow!

Day 9 Immune response may aggressively ramp. ( re: Sepsis )
Also noted as Covid Contagious into Day 10 then Shedding

Day 10/11 Vax / Virus starts to plateau with 6% viral load or infectiousness....The Shedding Phase.
Athletes (From Above) are advised not to compete at Top level until 10 days after their Vax.

Day 11/12 is significant to shaking off any reactionary Fever .
Also the crunch time for admission to ICU.

Day 13 For the lucky ones ...The lungs should start to heal

Day 14 (CT 32) is the new WHO Standard 5% Covid viral load as non infectious.
CDC time the "implied" immunity (Fully Vaccinated) from 14 days after either 1/2 vaxes
All Govt's ignore WHO / CDC and award fake dangerous 7 day immunity...superspreading covid.
Israel : "Getting back to routine is more important than reduced Covid infections."

Day 14 is also the Minimum time for body to recover (Settle) for additional (Flu) Vaccine
Also incubation time for most vax / virus alike as in Quarantine.
One gets the official all clear for Covid as well.

Day 15 ramps immunity again but none will enter this far into the Twilight Zone. (Just Forget it!)
Here, Post Quarantine vaxers or cases (3-5% can re-contract Covid) 6.2% of these cases "Do die!"
Note the Post vax cases are climbing fast & FDA have envisaged a 5% Post vax infection rate.

Day 16 - Coughing should cease from any Vax / Viral Lung reactions

This is the 95% efficacy claims we read on Vax makers labels.(5% are termed Breakthru cases)

(CT 45) was the pre Covid Gold {POV}...( Top Lab gear was smashed & mothballed on Day 1.)
Was once the all clear & full immunity way outside of Pandemic way back in 2019 or Dinosaur time.
Spare the detail, we're in a Pandemic...this is History...Dust Covers & Cobwebs...nothing to see here!

Full Immunity
April -Flu Shots also take 2-3 weeks for Immunity > 3-4 months Winter Peak > 6 months (Declines)
Covid Vax climbs to 6 month Peak expires your {Proof of Vaccine} to change

Breakthru ( Post infected) figures are not well tallied but Science argues the elderly were vaxed 1st.
They imply exaggerated cases & death rate only presents high due to Phase 1 old age
Stat readers know this don't pass the Pub Test as Phase 1 are strapped to beds & can't spread virus.
Cocooned seniors ramped fake high Vax % compliance so they also then laze the breakthru exits.
Soon a double Vax Whammy of 2x infectious Youth breakthru the Airport Turnstyles...

Science is blindsided by political quick fix Pandemic response.

Govts are halving SD
Cutting Quarantine & Immunity time
Doubling Flights, Crowds & Gigs!
Rapid Mass Vaxing ramping Record Rapid Covid
Experts - Have verified that none of it has anything to do with the Vax!
Not that anyone asked!

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indo-dreaming Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 9:51pm

Only 15 minutes in on this, will be interesting to see if it last long on Youtube (only uploaded today) its not out there but challenges some more mainstream views on approach to covid etc

PS. It's better than the tacky looking thumbnail might suggest.

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truebluebasher Sunday, 2 May 2021 at 11:53pm

Wow! Indo! This guy is Gunther's TV lab assistant...
Crew will recall this gruesome TV show where they hack into real Corpses with chainsaws.

Aside that ...yeah! Professor played it down quite a bit as he might be aiming for Top NHS Job
Very pragmatic & not too outlandish but just enough to ruffle the feathers!
He got pulled up pushing less Covid death Stats as 2nd UK wave rose up...but tbb will excuse him...
Blowin called that & tbb backed him & can agree that this Professor is half right as tbb reported here
Isolated Balkans & Pacific Islands / NZ / Oz all recorded 5% > 30% less deaths during 2020.

It's a defining point as it's off limits & yer now branded a heretic to 2nd guess sciency statistics.
tbb reported here that South Korean Flu Vax killed more than the Covid virus during Oct / Nov 2020.
Can assure the crew that revelation stays here...ain't no News Media gonna call that during Flu Vax!
Broken Record....Covid is worse than the Vax....well no! Not always! So how about we print real news!

Thanx for sharing the timely new release vid...good one indo-dreaming.
Thanx also for the excellent upfront review...that also won tbb over.

Having yer thoughts challenged as Indo said is healthy & as Professor says...its proper robust science.
Only fair to salute firebrand Professors that call out the Politicisation of the Pandemic.

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sypkan Monday, 3 May 2021 at 9:51am

"...Having yer thoughts challenged as Indo said is healthy & as Professor says...its proper robust science.
Only fair to salute firebrand Professors that call out the Politicisation of the Pandemic."

it is indeed science! ....and how science used to work... and society... as the good professor says...

seriously, wtf just happened?

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sypkan Monday, 3 May 2021 at 9:57am

actually i know what just happened

it's all about the 'narrative'... as the good professor also said...

the narrative may not be challenged!

...a disturbing development across society, and its not just to do with corona...

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Supafreak Monday, 3 May 2021 at 9:59am

@sypkan , its all about the money money money

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sypkan Monday, 3 May 2021 at 10:17am

well there's that too...

its also to do with pervasiveness of post modernisn, tds, ...and the trooth!

ironically enough...


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sypkan Monday, 3 May 2021 at 10:25am

...speaking of which... i see that drug that can only be known as 'I' is getting more of a run...

and crew are resorting to buying it online

which may or may not be more dangerous than the 'dangerous narrative' being allowed to form and ferment...

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 2:21am

12th March Quadfluenza - Australia / Japan / US / India

13th March Quad - Rollouts all ramp on same day > To 30th April
Australia 12 cases day > (30th April) 37cases day > Total 724 cases > 5 deaths
Japan 1,000 day > (30th April) 6,000day >Total 152,966 cases > 3,485 deaths (Wealthiest Seniors)
USA 60,000 day > 85,000day > Total 3,143,366 cases > 42,740 deaths (Wealthiest Seniors)
India 27,500 day > 402,000 day > Total 8,586,224 cases > 160,462 deaths (Wealthiest Seniors)

Quad Rollouts all prioritise & target wealthiest Age Care Cities & Clusters.
First Wave Age Care(Covid) outbreaks also targeted wealthy & rewarded Govt's Inheritance Windfalls. tbb 19th March ~
Vax Rollout targets Oldest & Wealthiest Hubs in Each Country.
Vax Rollout spikes Covid to record highs in these Cities & many Deaths follow.
All these Countries openly reported delaying 100's of Age Care Bodies & spiking Covid Stats.

The Quads team up for similar timetable for Vax > Rollout > Covid > Deaths > Windfall.
It has been said that Countries with less drag will shoot ahead Post Covid...
Some Nations got lucky others need to make their own luck & are making a killing along the way!

Quads agree Vax Rollout begins with the Oldest & Wealthiest & must sustain Highest Vax Rates.
Once the cream has been licked the Govt pull up stumps & Rollout collapses & none care for dregz.
Too easy, as wealthiest just lie there like sitting ducks...Vax > 2x infectious + spike = (Outbreak)

Australia > Qld Rollout started on Gold Coast ( Retirement Capital )
Interesting SEQ had Oz first Vax Lockdown / OD's / Wrong Vax / Reactions / Death + #1 ICU Mandate.
Not saying anything untoward other than it perfectly introduces the Quad's wild frontier Vax Rollouts.

Japan - Tokyo > Kanagawa > Osaka > Saitama > Aichi > Chiba > Kyoto ( Wealthiest / Most Vaxed )
Outbreaks & Lockdowns followed.

USA - It's all about Michigan (Highest Vax Rate & Highest amount of Billionaire Seniors to Pluck)
12/14 Top Vaxed US cities are in Michigan & the crew guessed it...Highest Covid (Av +18.4%/ City)
US Govt are bankrupting Michigan's Obamacare by 1735% for Billionaire's Inheritance Windfall...
tbb 26th April ~

India..."News Headline" { Record Deaths as India's affluent in Cities Hit by Deadly Covid Tsunami }
India's most vulnerable Oldest Wealthy citizens are also dying in record numbers ...{RIP}

Quad Rollouts have similar enough timed Wave motion & can Ramp Outbreaks or Drop cases at will.
Not saying that lightly, as crew can read any graph...Rollout is running all the Quad's game plan.
tbb 2nd May ~

Quads catch of the day often puts them over the bag limit!

So why is Oz cutting out India!
Well TGA approved Real Time PCR Abbott ID NOW Tests...( aka : Mutant Turnstyle )
Airline's go to 15% Negative Tests...Hawaii / Dubai / Delhi Mutant Outbreak Gateways.
188 [-] board Delhi > 188 arrive in Hong Kong 47 [+]
WA questions the Mutant Turnstyle Tickets...

India permitted Real Time Abbott Tests as default 3 day PCR Tests & they're TGA compliant...
So only way to stop the Turnstyle is to cut the Ride Completely.
WA can Fly in 1,450 Health +TAFE [ VISAS ] Response to 7y/o Girl's Death...(Not enough Staff!)

24th May -Vic wanna fly in 120 Foreign Students a week for Uni Quarantine...(NSW will want in!)

2,200 US Marines are Covid spreading Howard Springs...(Wouldn't try kicking them out!)

Soon as [Visas / Students] are locked in their Dorms the OZ / Indian mutants can spin the turnstyles.

Shape of Things to Come
Why is our PM still flogging off his AZ malt brew to underage Pacific Vaxxerz?
A dozen Grey Nomads go on a Mass Vax Crawl to windback the Rollout (Bugger!) Look! SHARK!$zoom_0.136%2C$multiply_1.0582%2C$ratio_1.5%2C$width_756%2C$x_0%2C$y_0/t_crop_custom/q_86%2Cf_auto/728effb40a0196e9ba88477d5a7ca849be8f302a

Quad Vax greed kills off Olympics & Locks out Aussie Athletes returning from world's Hottest Spot!
Scomo is scouting Starshot [VISAS]
Howard Springs is fast becoming a very large post covid US Marine Camp.
PM : "Wishes for a very peaceful Indo Pacific"

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truebluebasher Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 1:11pm

Please don't feel as if tbb is signalling out the Quads...this is clearly not the case.

News : "The World's Wealthiest Countries are getting vaccinated 25x Faster."

Headline : "How Ethnicity & Wealth affect US Vaccine Rollout "

Institutionalised Wealthy Elderly are isolated, least able to contract or spread Covid or herd immunity.
Rollouts begin in wealthiest countries with highest (Default) Govt Inheritance.
Vax is raced to a record 70-90% uptake spreading record outbreaks & new waves of covid cases.
5 Feb - "Re: Urgent Warning re Covid-19 Vaccine -related deaths in the Elderly & Care Homes"
Leaders were warned & it only escalated & still is thru all wealthiest Nation's Elderly to India today!

Davos > Vax (Perfect Pandemic Toy) Played their puppet Prez's & PM's.
Rolling out from richest Nations > States > Towns > CEO's / Billionaires rolling in 50% more Play Doh.
Anyone asks...How dare you! VIP's won their priority Vax order fair & square down at the Bingo Hall.

Interesting that isolated Tax Havens that tax man can't find were prioritized for Vax Rollouts?
This reads like a Pandemic Heist Novel...use Vax Bombs to redistribute wealth.
tbb exampled the Quads Rort ...Here's a Shopper Docket that tbb knocked up earlier...Scamdemic!
Every single Top 40 wealthy nation is in on the Covid Rollermania Derby...A new world for sure!
12 April ~

Aged Care residents mostly get vaxed privately by [L] Aspen need no approval from distant family.
Not strictly true as tbb did try and verify this with an aged care staffer & claims approval it is sought.
As tbb said there is a mix of Indemnity in Oz Rollout like no other. (No Dose ID on Vax Card or VICS)
Govt "[L] Declare International Health immunity > VIP/ Olympic -Tennis-Cruise-Age Care Outbreaks
Ask how Olympic Coaches get 2 Doses of AZ before Games? [L] Aspen overrides TGA 12 wk script

Don't ya just luv the names nuthin' let's shut this fucker down...nuthin to see here!
Here's another one of them no name Age Care reports...
23rd Dec -First Swiss Vax was a 90 y'o Lady (No name or Fanfare > 5 days later dead- No Vax link!)

Medics say no phones are answered & Govts withhold signing off relatives = Windfall.
Leaders are on notice with Human Rights & Advocates fuming with state to international.
50-95% is usual Govt death take during covid in up to 50% of deaths. (Property portfolios the lot!)
Wealthy estates relative/s are entitled to a livelihood / House, but Govt claw 100% back in court fees.

Sarcastically argue that Frontline get vaxed first as legal indemnity for Pollies to plead innocence.
Well yer honour, it's like this! No one was put in harms way during Geriatric Pandemic profiteering.
Well almost no one was harmed...your Honour! It's a real tragedy know...The Divorce!
Judge : "Case Dismissed...All costs awarded to Davos! I mean Daszak! I mean Dalek Leader Davros!"

Frontlline Medicos either refuse or feature low in Vax uptake to 45 -70% claiming the vax is a junket.
Weekly numerous reports of Young Doctors dying from Vax during Phase 1 Rollouts...
Multicultural Aged Care workforce Vax rate is lowest of all (10-50%) in developed nations.
The sheer scale of this work force puts them in harms way & migrants feature high in Cases & Deaths.

tbb is serving up MSM titles + best up to date it conspiracy or News but it's plain to see! Wealthiest Nation's World Leaders partake in this Pandemic Profiteering to bankroll WHO if you like.
It goes by many names & not one of them nice & they censor anyone who dares call them out!

[Disclaimer] These reports are Not Anti Vax...just that tbb has bipolar and it's getting worse.
This is an open display of mental illness that exhausts both writer & reader...there is no Time Out.
This could go on & on as there's no shortage of media resource pointing to the same world order.
tbb could disprove all this but it would only land us all in a darker place..stick with Devil you Know!
Far be it for an ill person to take on World, but will continue to address them for what it's worth.

tbb declined a vax offer until advised Pre vax screen or any appointments are reinstated...(re: Phase Z) Also not yet been rounded up & roped in to an Anti Vaxxer Compound.
Prefer if crew don't read this as conspiracy or Anti Vax...only meant to placate our creeping malaise.

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Supafreak Tuesday, 4 May 2021 at 4:32pm

In the Phillipines only the wealthy can afford the approved remdesivir treatment at $3000+ USD a pop , meanwhile the $2 ivermectin is only available for compassionate grounds. Absolute joke

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Supafreak Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 1:36pm

In zimbabwe ivermectin has been used since January after some politicians died from covid , now the country is doing better than most .

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simba Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 3:02pm

india eye opener


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zenagain Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 3:40pm

That's heartbreaking Simba.

Count your blessings peeps.

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shortenism Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 6:44pm

C'mon Simba. A 1st year film student could throw that little production together.

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zenagain Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 8:57pm

Don't shoot the messenger Shorty.

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truebluebasher Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 2:29am

Ok! tbb is gonna weird the crew out some more...
Researching on how the Vax > 8 days is spreading 2/3/4-7x more covid than non vaxed.
tbb is making good progress on this front...plenty of reasons for this & all are legit & well known.
So much so that when it came to applying reverse logic to prove this led to this eye opener.

If Covid vax is lowering healthy immunity but can also kickstart inert Covid ravaged immune systems...
Then what if Covid virus was also a spike virus that leaked from the lab.
Imagine if this GOF freak cancer Lab virus actually continued to evolve enough to go on & cure cancer.
Let's face it...cancer was & still is at the forefront of GOF coronavirus research at time of Lab leak.

tbb did threaten to disprove his own theory....who's ready for this?

Covid can cure Cancer....there!
tbb said it...C'mon! You can't just say shit like that..

Ok! But just how the hell does tbb get outta this one! Blame his bipolar again...Nope!
By conjuring up a Miracle...remember those thingies way back before Outbreaks & Rollouts!

**{ Miracle }**

29th Jan 61 year old man with stage 3 Hodgkin Lymphoma was hospitalized with Covid for 11 days.
He never received any treatment nor any drugs.
Meanwhile the Covid triggered his immune system to fight back.
4 months the man returns to Hospital & his stage 3 cancer was in remission & all but gone! see Xrays!

Recall the Vax kickstarted immune systems to cure Long Covid symptoms ( Well for 15-20% )
tbb thinks the answer is all in the timing... Science is heading in this direction.

Earlier on tbb pointed out how the whole Vax - Virus is starting to look as one of the same...
How else do you reckon tbb pulled out that seems as if it does all cycle back around.

tbb believes the vax is triggering an 8 day Non Hodgkins "Like" Lymphoma which gloves the virus.
First picked up on this, as Lymph Cancer sufferers were advised to hip jab to not mask test results
The 'Non' Hodgkin Lymphoma" is common in Front Line / Elderly / Aged Carers.
Vax amplifies their already Non Hodgkin Lymphoma leaving them defenceless against Covid Virus

Truth is born out of Cancer Patients that vaccinate...they become more vulnerable to Covid.
The patients were urged to vax but only scored 13% to 28% immunity.
Many would advise of more efficient less risky defence to Covid.

Gather world's least immune & vax them as one resulting in 2-7x less immunity in Covid hot spots.
Zombies doped out in Rollout robbed of immunity then dipped in coronavirus = Zombie Apocalypse

tbb is saying that Govt's have been informed of 90% of what crew read...they know the risks.
Unless they offset Rollouts, then tbb can only assume they are amplifying the Covid Outbreaks!
No! tbb takes no joy in claiming that it's horrid...but it is what it is!
World can also assert that Big Pharma called it wrong on the ADE and it got outta hand.
Ain't no one gonna point to ADE spiking every Rollout in the World that all can plainly see.

It is possible that Covid-19 was a Cancer Drug that is slowly revealing itself.
tbb's research is ongoing but can say this Lab vax / Lab virus reverse flip is one of the same.
Clear to all here the more one looks the more similarities with Vax & Virus...not even trying.

Crew can read how vax triggers Covid cases that also cures long Covid which also cures cancer.
Rollout 250,000 vax doses for 750,000 case outbreaks and reduce the vax lowers the same in a week.

Name: "Trojan Horse" : ( Antibody Dependent Enhancement ) or ( Vaccine Enhanced Disease )
tbb informed > April 2021 (Raina : "ADE as with MERS Coronavirus Vaccines is a concern!") Exactly!
tbb alerted Raina to rolloutbreaks & she is alone on ADE concern as 100 Professors vow it's safe.
Science Topic of the Week -100 www sites "Sure glad our 2m Covid Vax Cases don't got ADE boss?"
tbb ADE is lighting up www but it's all a solid WHO wall of defence...not one has the guts to call it!

3rd Feb UK East Anglia Uni... "Israel Covid doubles in 8 days of Vax
5th Feb UK Medical Freedom..."UK Aged Care Covid triples in 2 weeks of Vax ( Graphs of Vax > Cases)

This is gonna come on stronger...depending on misinformation censors... soon be on the radar.

WHO deal can Spike Vax to Lower Immunity ramping virus Outbreak then Lower Outbreak / weekly.
The virus operates a complete in house life-cycle very efficiently without being bitten by Bats.

Found a cure a for a Cancer that perfectly mirrors the vax side effect...that sure is some coincidence!
Gonna be interesting if Covid starts curing more we continue cursing the bats for that!

Recall tbb reviewed vaxing by Circadian Rhythms.
How ageing society drifts naturally into 3 groups to die according to their Body Clocks...Nope!
tbb 8th April ~

Don't be surprised if Vaxing gets real personal... as in Body Clocks, Melatonin & Body Heat.
Recent reports that Oz can't make U50 vax means we may implement Circadian Rhythms.
This is to maximise the benefits of hard to get vax...economizing by way of Body Heat Screening.
To obtain max immunity > 3 groups would vax by timing body clocks to heat of the day.
Other Patients on vents or night rotation shift workers would vax by approx' Timetables.
tbb will get back on this, as we're talking 70% efficacy difference for same vax (re: Outbreaks)

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indo-dreaming Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:56am
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india eye opener

That was actually pretty good for Vice, much more like the old Vice when guys like Tim Pool were still there doing proper on the street journalism.

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H2O Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 11:22am

Good link Simba - we should be thankful for what we have here in this country.

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 4:16pm

TBB - Take a look into the hoax Chinese vaccine if you feel the desire. See how well it’s working in Seychelles, Dubai and their African colonies.

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 4:17pm

TBB - Take a look into the Chinese vaccine if you feel the desire. See how well it’s working in Seychelles, Dubai and their African colonies.

Seychelles is rumoured to be the most vaccinated nation in the world and they’re still getting Wuflu flogged?

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lucky-al Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 4:40pm

What are your thoughts on the Cuban vaccines, truebluebasher?

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Supafreak Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 6:17pm
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JQ Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 6:49pm

Liberty sentinel hey Supa, seems like a reliable source... The other one is no better either.

I note that same doctor spruiks hydroxychloroquine too

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:06pm

Colour me unsurprised.

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:07pm
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Liberty sentinel hey Supa, seems like a reliable source... The other one is no better either.

I note that same doctor spruiks hydroxychloroquine too

Yeah, you really just undermined his impeccable credentials then, mate. Pfffft.

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Supafreak Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:15pm

@JQ , maybe you should do some checking on who this doctor is and what he’s achieved, seriously JQ have a look , the second link has a video on him speaking of the main points in the first link , why don’t you then research what he’s saying and see what you find ? Doubt you will as it’s easier to believe MSM for some .

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Supafreak Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:18pm

And here you go JQ you can also give this Dr. a lesson in truth .

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JQ Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:20pm

Supa, I've read loads of the stuff you've posted. Why not stitch it all together for us. Tell me why the various governments around the world aren't getting behind Ivermectin et al

You do realise 'MSM' is not axiomatically wrong yeah? It's not the comeback or damning indictment you seem to think it is.

I've read about that Dr's qualifications, certainly seems legit. But those large government agencies have very experienced doctors working for them too and all around the world they are pretty unanimous in their positions aren't they?

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:22pm

Is your post intentionally ironic, JQ?

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JQ Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:27pm

Is your entire back catalog of posts, Blowin?

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:43pm
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Is your entire back catalog of posts, Blowin?

If the best you can do when confronted with the perspective of the most highly qualified and cited Covid specialist is to berate the medium upon which his opinions are conferred, then you’ve obviously got no intention of engaging any information presented with good faith. You haven’t even acknowledged what he has to say in anyway whatsoever. If you think this is an argument with information to be ignored in order to point score then you’re missing the reason for the discussion completely.

I’ve really not missed the snark, smarm , ad hominem and straw men of days yore. So I’ll bid you farewell.

Thanks for the links, Supafreak.

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JQ Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:44pm

You do that then chief, good onya. See you still haven't invested in that mirror...

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Supafreak Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:51pm

@JQ , there are many countries using ivermectin, have a look , it’s not the only drug , it’s a cocktail that many drs. talk about. The west is reluctant and why is that ? I think the previous link explains it if you listen to the video . JQ , why do you think governments in the beginning didn’t have a early treatment protocol ? Borody came up with one in August 2020 . JQ are you aware that in the US a new vaccine can only be used as a emergency response if there is no known treatment ?Again look it up , its not hard. Why are so many professors saying the same thing about vaccination for those that have recovered from covid is absolutely crazy ? I’m listening to Drs that are at the top of their game because they are treating patients and I trust them . I have trouble trusting governments , big pharma and MSM because of their track record. All of these doctors are also pro vaccination, the way the world has gone about it was bullshit , the advice to go home and isolate if testing positive is bizarre , what other diseases do you go home and wait and see how bad it gets ? Is that really the best medical advice ?

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 7:54pm

Supa- Your previous link explained. Beating your head against a wall trying to enlighten someone with their eyes tightly shut and fingers in their ears.

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JQ Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 8:03pm

All valid points Supa. And I have trouble trusting governments and big business too, but no matter which way I think about it, I cannot decipher a motive for our government to have the position it does on these treatments. As far as governments go, the scientific parts and the scientists and doctors involved in them are the parts I have the most faith in, far far more than any politician.

Again, I just cannot compute any form of motive for our government to deny us effective treatments. Ivermectin costs peanuts, what do they have to lose. Consider the financial losses at stake with the lockdowns and border closures etc, governments (especially ours) have everything to gain from promoting effective treatments. I guess you could say that they've invested too much into vaccines? But still, the amount they have put into that would be minuscule compared to the economic losses suffered.

Who do you think runs these large medical bodies? It's doctors and professors and experts, I'm sure they hold the positions they do for good reasons, their opinions are not less valid than those of the doctors and professors that you cite.

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JQ Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 8:03pm

Ah, welcome back Blowin, how was the break cobba?

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Blowin Thursday, 6 May 2021 at 8:11pm

The economic burden of Covid and the response to Covid has fallen primarily on the lower and imiddle classes. Big business has enjoyed an unprecedented cash bonanza. Sticks are through the roof. Assets are at all time highs. Business profits are up for multinationals and the one percent income bracket have seen a huge increase in wealth.

Who do you think benefits from pursuing the lockdown/ vaccine approach in preference to the conventional medication route? Basically the same answer to every question regarding who profits from a mischievously managed macroeconomic situation.