Desert Storm surfboard

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caml started the topic in Monday, 13 Jul 2015 at 2:06pm

Discussion about the
"Desert Storm" shaped by Wayne Webster
Ridden and designed by the "Camel"

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joakse Sunday, 30 May 2021 at 11:59am

This recent swell has me reconsidering my age and what is required for big winter swell. If anyone is interested in moving on a DS board 6'6-6'10" about 40LT then let me know now or when one might be available.

I know these boards sit around not getting much use but I don't want to be caught out on 32LT next time a swell like this hits with 25knot offshores.

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Blowin Sunday, 30 May 2021 at 12:12pm

I had a fun surf on my DS a couple of days ago at a ledgey wave when almost everyone else out was struggling on their 6’2” “ step-ups” . ‘Twas windy and lumpy and hilarious watching crew miss wave after wave or get immediately caught behind the section on takeoff.

I’d normally say don’t bring a knife to a gunfight, but cause the swell was pretty average and ugly as it was building, in this instance it was more a matter of don’t bring piss to a shitfight.

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joakse Sunday, 30 May 2021 at 12:23pm

That was me today, bringing a knife. If anyone has one they're keen to offload more than happy to take a look. I'm not even sure that step ups were performing today as I reckon they're just to light in such winds.

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seaslug Friday, 11 Jun 2021 at 10:06am

Hi Island Bay, haven't been on this forum for a while. Was your 8'6 DS a custom or stock dimensions?

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Island Bay Friday, 11 Jun 2021 at 1:49pm

Hey SS.

It is a stock 8'6. So far wouldn't change a thing.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 9:45am

Thanks Island Bay, so the stock comes with dual leg rope plugs? Wayne could not remember haha. Tossing up between a stock 8' or 8'6"

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groundswell Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 9:52am

hey seaslug my 6'6 didnt come with duel leash plugs but i told Wayne i rarely surf bigger than 6 foot point any more.on a stand up at least. maybe his bigger boards do though.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 9:53am

Also what Captain Fins do you have, the CF Quad Medium or the Classic Quad?

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lostdoggy Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:06am

When I had a look at the rack all the smaller ones up to about 6'6 or maybe 7' had one leggie plug. All the ones bigger than that had 2.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:09am

Cheers Lost Doggy, my stock 6'10 has one

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:10am

Thanks ground swell

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Island Bay Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:22am

seaslug, I've been running these in the big DS:

https://www.surfnvs.com/collections/apex-quad/products/bronn-quad-apex-s...

Otherwise I've had great success with these (incl yesterday in my 7'6 Spartan):

https://captainfin.com/products/mccallum-quad

Re leash plugs, all the bigger ones Ive seen have had double plugs.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:42am

Island Bay, the Captain Fins you reference are sold out at the moment according to their website. The the CF Quad Medium or the Classic Quad are available. I'll have a look at the other ones you reference.

I have not ridden my 7'6 Spartan with quads, only JJF thruster mediums.

Thanks re plugs, now to decide between the 8' or 8'6

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:47am
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Island Bay Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 10:51am

Yep! With both flat and 80/20 rears. Shipping was cheap.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 11:22am

Anyone tried C Drive fins in their DS?

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groundswell Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 11:35am

No they look weird but go great apparently. i just use EA's and forget about it. I liked them since i used a set 11 years ago.They go well in DS too.But bloody pricey $229 a set.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 12:22pm

I'm currently using the front EA out of a thruster set (bigger dimensions than the fronts out a EA quad set) and separate QD2 3.75 rears with 80/20 foil (smaller dimension than the rears out of a EA quad set, all in honeycomb

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Island Bay Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 2:16pm

Sounds ok to me, SS. Probably a little looser than a normal EA fibreglass set (with the bigger fronts/smaller rears).

In the for-the-hell-of-it dept, I just surfed my 8'6 DS in 2ft lined up beach break. Have sold my longboard and just wanted to glide, so gave it a go. Ended up with two little cover-ups and some ok turns. Love that board.

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 3:07pm

Cheers IB, the BRONN QUAD (M) - APEX fins you mentioned have very similar dimensions (A, B, H) to the quad EA fibreglass set (both front and rear flat foil only). Not sure about rake.

Good news on your surf, still have to decide between the 8' or 8'6

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udo Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 3:48pm

I.B. do you have a set of Keels you can put in that 8'6 " for a 'Long Twin' Trail ..

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Island Bay Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 3:54pm

Udo, I thought of that as I was out this arvo. I have a set of these, and I'll give them a go tomorrow or Tueday:

https://captainfin.com/products/christenson-twin-especial-st-white-black

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seaslug Sunday, 13 Jun 2021 at 7:02pm

Be good to get your feedback on that IB

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Island Bay Monday, 14 Jun 2021 at 10:42am

Seaslug, I ran the 8'6 as a twin today - especially for you :-)

2ft+ bowly, lined-up beachbreak, and it went well. Felt a little faster, and definitely looser. I'd have to ride a righthander to really confirm how different it is, but so far so good.

Not what the board was made for. Please accept my apologies, Webby!

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groundswell Monday, 14 Jun 2021 at 12:03pm

I surf my DS in small stuff too IB. easy board to ride but i cant drop the wallet on them..too much of a cruiser for that..but easy to catch waves of 1-2ft i surfed it at jakes on a four foot swell but took me ages to get a wave with a crowd out there..i hate competing for waves when im rusty at surfing.
Even tough im doing a lot of bench presses and gym work on shoulders and chest tris and bis surfing is hard for me when i dont surf often.

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seaslug Monday, 14 Jun 2021 at 12:53pm

Haha cheers IB. Just ordered the DS 8' x 20", stock.

Surfing hard for all of us when we don't surf often GS, especially as we get older. Keep it up mate

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Island Bay Wednesday, 16 Jun 2021 at 4:14am

Another run on the 8'6 DS as a twinnie yesterday. 3-4ft at my local reef/point, with 15kt devil wind.

Tide a bit full, and with the devil wind chop a bigger board was the call. The DS went superbly in those conditions, and while being solidly overgunned, I wouldn't have swapped for anything else. The drive off the bottom turn is something else.

Definitely feels looser with the twins, but still not sure whether it's faster than as a quad. Fun to experiment, though.

Got dragged across the dry inside section a few times. Big board like that is a bloody anchor!

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udo Wednesday, 16 Jun 2021 at 2:23pm

I.B -
Jim Banks...what i am finding is my Quad Guns are converting straight over to Twin Fins without having to change the Board Design at all and i am Definitely going faster...
Get some Footage out there Jim please.

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Island Bay Wednesday, 16 Jun 2021 at 2:42pm

If the footage exists, Surf Detective Udo will unearth it!

Geez, you're a super sleuth - and I mean that in the nicest possible way.

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groundswell Wednesday, 16 Jun 2021 at 3:13pm

Yeah Udo Jim has some great looking mid length twins in his new range. Might be torryn and josh Kerr influencing the movement.
I can only afford one of his boards a year though and It will likely be a magic carpet fish with glass on keels. hard backhand unless you’re in the zone and surfing them a lot. But best fishes on the market for down the line pits especially 2~6ft barrels in Indo not too ledgey or bumpy conditions though.
A few people I know think his boards are too stiff and tracky but I’ve never had so much fun...putting a lot of back foot pressure on the keels then flying back into the pocket never had so much fun.

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joakse Wednesday, 16 Jun 2021 at 6:09pm

Thanks Udo,
You gotta be quick. She’s gone. Appreciate the link.

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peter.wiska Friday, 18 Jun 2021 at 4:49pm

A 6/6 [email protected] Bondi on Gumtree now.

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markxxx Saturday, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:12am
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udo Saturday, 19 Jun 2021 at 11:40am

The owner is yesterdays wave of the day pic ...charger.