That’s weird, that’s queer, that’s crazy, that deserves a long hard look.

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Roadkill started the topic in Monday, 25 Oct 2021 at 7:04pm
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Supafreak Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 12:41pm

A society where children develop PTSD from simply attending school is indeed a sick society.

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 12:48pm
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dunno...

getting harder and harder to see violence and guns as a... 'right wing issue'

https://x.com/MickamiousG/status/1965934899766141040

guns aren't going anywhere in the US, that's essentially been decided...

how a society operates with such power literally at their finger tips is the question?

ol' mate's released a beast I reckon

Hahaha, old mate neck blown out's tweet is rich as hell. hahahah

What a perspective. Also, what an asshole you are.

Um, this is a tweet from Charlie himself, just in case wires got crossed here. Not sure why quoting that makes me an arsehole.

And this is a quote from you.
“Hahaha, old mate neck blown out's tweet is rich as hell. hahahah”

Charlie was cheerleading a genocide and my comment is what offends you?

I’m not offended.

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stunet Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 12:53pm
Supafreak wrote:

A society where children develop PTSD from simply attending school is indeed a sick society.

Neighbours across the road moved from Chicago to Australia - she's American, he's Australian. They left the US because of gun violence, saying that people in the old neighbourhood would send their children to different schools. Less chance that both would be killed.

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soggydog Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 12:56pm
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"god given rights to bear arms"

It's a bizarre perspective hey...

especially from over here in quaint little oz

but it is what it is... and, as I said, guns aren't going anywhere in the good ol' U S of A...

so it is what it is... it's the tone, dismissal, deflection, ...and ironically, 'dehumanizing' nature of 'the narrative' that is the real problem...

but you jump right in on that champ, if you must...

Who’s narrative, the guy with a new hole. Or the population demographic he chose to continually gaslight.

Charlie Kirk was hardly humanising when executing his position. A condescending air of superiority and impunity was obviously what lead to his own demise.

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 12:59pm

I do think there is irony in what Kirk has said about gun deaths.
I just don’t think someone murdered deserves to be laughed at.

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etarip Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:02pm

Funny how this has been confirmed as an act of political violence already.

Couldn’t it have just been a ‘crazy person’ who didn’t like Charlie Kirk? No excuse for what has occurred at all, but he’s been knee deep in the violent invective of which this *may* be an extension.

What are the odds that the shooter is a registered affiliate of one party or the other?

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AlfredWallace Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:08pm

NRA as a lot to answer for.

There are approximately 350 -450 million civilian guns in the US alone.

Nothing more to add. Fools paradise. AW

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:16pm
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sypkan wrote:

"god given rights to bear arms"

It's a bizarre perspective hey...

especially from over here in quaint little oz

but it is what it is... and, as I said, guns aren't going anywhere in the good ol' U S of A...

so it is what it is... it's the tone, dismissal, deflection, ...and ironically, 'dehumanizing' nature of 'the narrative' that is the real problem...

but you jump right in on that champ, if you must...

Who’s narrative, the guy with a new hole. Or the population demographic he chose to continually gaslight.

Charlie Kirk was hardly humanising when executing his position. A condescending air of superiority and impunity was obviously what lead to his own demise.

Kirk made a career out of patronising and belittling naive unprepared college children.

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green room Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:32pm

gun ownership?

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/how-switzerland-combines-a-passion...

"Switzerland is one of the most heavily armed countries in the world. It is also one of the safest, and shootings such as the recent one in Sion, in the south of the country, are rare. This apparent paradox is due to a weapons culture that is intrinsically different from that of the United States. What's the secret?"

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sypkan Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:51pm

once again, I find it intriguing the leftist's know more about this guy than the people who are supposedly being contaminated by his 'hate'

I didn't even know who charlie kirk was... until he died... was murdered...

yeh, with the benefit of hindsight, I've seen a couple of his clips where he debates college kids, and yeh, there's a bit of this...

'Kirk made a career out of patronising and belittling naive unprepared college children.'

but from my limited knowledge, he did it with respect and civility, genuinely seemed to be trying to lower the tone to get to the bottom of things

his detractors?

well... check social media... for an insight into the nuttiness, pure obsessiveness, and hate...

genuine hate and vitriol

hysterical

just a suggestion... but maybe if the nutty left called out their own from time to time we wouldn't be in such a toxic politico-scape...

debate is the very basis of our western system of government, if you can't handle that, well...

move to china?

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AlfredWallace Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:45pm
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gun ownership?

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/how-switzerland-combines-a-passion...

"Switzerland is one of the most heavily armed countries in the world. It is also one of the safest, and shootings such as the recent one in Sion, in the south of the country, are rare. This apparent paradox is due to a weapons culture that is intrinsically different from that of the United States. What's the secret?"

Green room. Hi.

It may well be one of the most heavily armed countries in the world but it doesn’t have a population of anywhere near 340 million people like the US has, therefore way more guns in more hands of those who by the virtue of being a gun owner, are prepared to use them.
US is also paranoid about be taken over or fired upon.
Coupled with the scare mongering vernacular pushed by the NRA that you need a gun to protect yourself, what hope is there. AW

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soggydog Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 1:46pm
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Supafreak Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 2:11pm
green room wrote:

gun ownership?

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/how-switzerland-combines-a-passion...

"Switzerland is one of the most heavily armed countries in the world. It is also one of the safest, and shootings such as the recent one in Sion, in the south of the country, are rare. This apparent paradox is due to a weapons culture that is intrinsically different from that of the United States. What's the secret?"

Hollywood ? Education ? Inferiority complex ? Paranoid ? How the west was won ? Take your pick . Could throw in half a dozen more but at the end of the day it’s basically “ culture “

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burleigh Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 2:11pm
Roadkill wrote:
soggydog wrote:
sypkan wrote:

"god given rights to bear arms"

It's a bizarre perspective hey...

especially from over here in quaint little oz

but it is what it is... and, as I said, guns aren't going anywhere in the good ol' U S of A...

so it is what it is... it's the tone, dismissal, deflection, ...and ironically, 'dehumanizing' nature of 'the narrative' that is the real problem...

but you jump right in on that champ, if you must...

Who’s narrative, the guy with a new hole. Or the population demographic he chose to continually gaslight.

Charlie Kirk was hardly humanising when executing his position. A condescending air of superiority and impunity was obviously what lead to his own demise.

Kirk made a career out of patronising and belittling naive unprepared college children.

Hardly children. They were young adults old enough to vote. Charlie always offered for the professors to come and debate him but they never showed.

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etarip Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 4:02pm
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once again, I find it intriguing the leftist's know more about this guy than the people who are supposedly being contaminated by his 'hate'

I didn't even know who charlie kirk was... until he died... was murdered...

yeh, with the benefit of hindsight, I've seen a couple of his clips where he debates college kids, and yeh, there's a bit of this...

'Kirk made a career out of patronising and belittling naive unprepared college children.'

but from my limited knowledge, he did it with respect and civility, genuinely seemed to be trying to lower the tone to get to the bottom of things

his detractors?

well... check social media... for an insight into the nuttiness, pure obsessiveness, and hate...

genuine hate and vitriol

hysterical

just a suggestion... but maybe if the nutty left called out their own from time to time we wouldn't be in such a toxic politico-scape...

debate is the very basis of our western system of government, if you can't handle that, well...

move to china?

You obviously haven’t bothered to look into some of Charlie’s greatest hits. Nothing worth getting murdered over, but to characterise him as a moderate or bridge-builder is ‘intriguing’.

What’s also ‘intriguing’ is that anyone (you?) knows the motives and political ideology of the shooter. For which there is far less evidence than Charlie’s.

For all anyone knows, it could be a disaffected Republican. Right?

Do you know what Charlie Kirk said when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was brutally attacked with a hammer?

Do you know what Nancy Pelosi said when Charlie Kirk was murdered?

Compare and contrast. 5 marks.

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 4:47pm

Syppy never lets lack of knowledge get in the way of offering opinions.

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southernraw Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 4:47pm
etarip wrote:
sypkan wrote:

once again, I find it intriguing the leftist's know more about this guy than the people who are supposedly being contaminated by his 'hate'

I didn't even know who charlie kirk was... until he died... was murdered...

yeh, with the benefit of hindsight, I've seen a couple of his clips where he debates college kids, and yeh, there's a bit of this...

'Kirk made a career out of patronising and belittling naive unprepared college children.'

but from my limited knowledge, he did it with respect and civility, genuinely seemed to be trying to lower the tone to get to the bottom of things

his detractors?

well... check social media... for an insight into the nuttiness, pure obsessiveness, and hate...

genuine hate and vitriol

hysterical

just a suggestion... but maybe if the nutty left called out their own from time to time we wouldn't be in such a toxic politico-scape...

debate is the very basis of our western system of government, if you can't handle that, well...

move to china?

You obviously haven’t bothered to look into some of Charlie’s greatest hits. Nothing worth getting murdered over, but to characterise him as a moderate or bridge-builder is ‘intriguing’.

What’s also ‘intriguing’ is that anyone (you?) knows the motives and political ideology of the shooter. For which there is far less evidence than Charlie’s.

For all anyone knows, it could be a disaffected Republican. Right?

Do you know what Charlie Kirk said when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was brutally attacked with a hammer?

Do you know what Nancy Pelosi said when Charlie Kirk was murdered?

Compare and contrast. 5 marks.

Could be just another convenient distraction...the signature and book and all.
We know how far the Donald will go to cover his trail.
The logic for it being the product of any other political motivation doesn't stack up.
But then, it is America. People do just shoot people.

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andy-mac Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 5:21pm
southernraw wrote:
etarip wrote:
sypkan wrote:

once again, I find it intriguing the leftist's know more about this guy than the people who are supposedly being contaminated by his 'hate'

I didn't even know who charlie kirk was... until he died... was murdered...

yeh, with the benefit of hindsight, I've seen a couple of his clips where he debates college kids, and yeh, there's a bit of this...

'Kirk made a career out of patronising and belittling naive unprepared college children.'

but from my limited knowledge, he did it with respect and civility, genuinely seemed to be trying to lower the tone to get to the bottom of things

his detractors?

well... check social media... for an insight into the nuttiness, pure obsessiveness, and hate...

genuine hate and vitriol

hysterical

just a suggestion... but maybe if the nutty left called out their own from time to time we wouldn't be in such a toxic politico-scape...

debate is the very basis of our western system of government, if you can't handle that, well...

move to china?

You obviously haven’t bothered to look into some of Charlie’s greatest hits. Nothing worth getting murdered over, but to characterise him as a moderate or bridge-builder is ‘intriguing’.

What’s also ‘intriguing’ is that anyone (you?) knows the motives and political ideology of the shooter. For which there is far less evidence than Charlie’s.

For all anyone knows, it could be a disaffected Republican. Right?

Do you know what Charlie Kirk said when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was brutally attacked with a hammer?

Do you know what Nancy Pelosi said when Charlie Kirk was murdered?

Compare and contrast. 5 marks.

Could be just another convenient distraction...the signature and book and all.
We know how far the Donald will go to cover his trail.
The logic for it being the product of any other political motivation doesn't stack up.
But then, it is America. People do just shoot people.

Can we get back to Epstein files.
Release them.

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soggydog Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 5:26pm

Charlie is just US gun Jeebus. He died for their guns. He was down with it.……died doin’ what he loved.

See link for context
https://www.instagram.com/share/_4Y2YbdZE

“It’s a prudent deal”

Wonder how his kids feel. Dads gone and school is a dangerous place.

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seeds Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 5:46pm

Couldn’t look at that Soggy but I assume it’s this

In 2023, Kirk said that gun deaths were "worth it" to ensure the preservation of Second Amendment rights in the US-- which is the right to keep and bear arms.

"It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights...That is a prudent deal," he said during an appearance at the Salt Lake City campus of Awaken Church on April 5, 2023.

Ironically, Kirl was answering a question about gun violence when he was shot dead.

If anyone has seen the footage of his death it’ll stun you. Farg guns!

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 5:54pm

It’s terrible the videos. And it’s all over social media. Just horrific.

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 5:54pm

It’s terrible the videos. And it’s all over social media. Just horrific.

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seeds Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:11pm

I wonder if in that split second before his lights went out if he had any regrets.

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tearymasseuse Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:15pm

This…..

& there are some other things goin on
- but, quick, look over there ;)

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seeds Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:20pm

No, I mean the live up close footage. It’s horrendous what a gun can do.

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tearymasseuse Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:25pm

https://youtube.com/shorts/8yJzXsY6DUc?si=gNPvZXIrgddZ5qiB

“ It’s terrible the videos. And it’s all over social media. Just horrific.”
(just like double standards and elite hypocrisy)

?si=hRXmt_Nd3OwboiTa

?si=uJ9n6ShkDN5_gkca

…terrible & horrific yep

- & sometimes ‘snipers’ are just following orders

https://youtube.com/shorts/76lSff46ccc?si=W2puH0j0bP1H6MJD

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tearymasseuse Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:30pm
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No, I mean the live up close footage. It’s horrendous what a gun can do.

…one must always consider ‘god given rights’ (in this day and age)
- paging selective outrage combatants ;)

https://youtube.com/shorts/xxpOZSLD6RM?si=LWGIq74d-OQbHfyI

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seeds Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:45pm

Don’t get me wrong
Couldn’t care less the racist, divisive, carrot cake has been blown away
Hopefully in that fraction of a second he realised all those innocent schoolchildren in the states that have died from gun violence, were more innocent than him.
I wonder if he still supported the 2nd amendment in that moment the lights went out

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:46pm
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No, I mean the live up close footage. It’s horrendous what a gun can do.

That is everywhere. All over instagram and X

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Roadkill Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:51pm

The thing I find hard to get my head around is Americans saying how can this happen? What have we become? This is not what we are/do? What have we become?

It was always going to happen.
Each side blaming each other. Each side excusing themselves. No side looking at their own actions.

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seeds Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 6:52pm

It’s amazing the body’s arterial pressure.
Surely it’s been blocked by now. Not something young ones should be seeing.

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soggydog Thursday, 11 Sep 2025 at 7:00pm
seeds wrote:

Couldn’t look at that Soggy but I assume it’s this

In 2023, Kirk said that gun deaths were "worth it" to ensure the preservation of Second Amendment rights in the US-- which is the right to keep and bear arms.

"It's worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year, so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights...That is a prudent deal," he said during an appearance at the Salt Lake City campus of Awaken Church on April 5, 2023.

Ironically, Kirl was answering a question about gun violence when he was shot dead.

If anyone has seen the footage of his death it’ll stun you. Farg guns!

Yep seeds, that’s it.

Amongst numerous other misogynistic racist bigoted comments designed to cultivate division.