Roach's Boom! Tail!

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Dan Dobbin (dandob)
Swellnet Dispatch

Recently Stu wrote an insightful and informative piece entitled 'Slater's Arc' that traced the evolution of the rail turn from the power gouge of the eighties into the controlled tail drifting that the Momentum Generation popularised in the early-nineties.

Analysing the classic shot of Kelly showcasing the new technique needed to slide the tail Stu wrote:

“Slater's counter-weighted body position shows it's deliberate and controlled. It also shows photographic flair: the cheek-puffing exertion, the flying side-kick, the Kecak hands."

Cheeks puffed, flying side-kick, Kecak hands.

If you're a bodyboarder you know this description, the image it evokes. But it isn't of Kelly. More on that later.

Jack Lindholm was a native Hawaiian who was bodyboarding's first superstar. While experimenting on an early Morey Boogie kit board at Sandy Beach in the early-seventies, he found himself standing with one leg up near the nose and one knee down on the back corner of the tail and realised it was a functional way of wave-riding. Jack took his 'Jack Stance' riding technique to Pipeline and charged ten foot barrels on boards that today would be classified as pool toys.

In a lineup dominated by Lightning Bolt downrailers, Jack Lindholm stood out: different equipment, different stance, different attitude (Divine)

Jack's efforts inspired others to adopt what evolved to be called dropknee riding. While many early bodyboarders both proned and dropkneed depending on wave conditions, a few became almost exclusively devotees to DK. One of these was a tall, skinny, sandy-blonde kid from Encinitas in California named Paul Roach.

A natural in the water, a young Roach was winning the early bodyboard contests he entered with ease. He picked up sponsors like Quiksilver and Morey Boogie and embarked on a pro career. When quizzed on why he transitioned to ride almost exclusive dropknee, Roach stated:

“You know, all I can think is that it is really fuckin’ hard to do and I needed the challenge.”

While earlier DK riders like Lindholm and eighties stars Keith Sasaki and Jay Reale sat lower on their back knee in a more squat position, the tall, lanky Roach pushed out his chest and sat bolt upright above his board. This afforded him greater leverage to pump and manipulate his 43 inches of finless foam to generate greater speed and perform harder turns.

With a hyperactive, charismatic personality and an attitude born of a love of SoCal skate Punk and Heavy Metal Roach liked to ride aggressively and fast. He was soon whipping his board through turns and lip bashes that redefined and inspired what, where, and how was possible.

While much of the eighties and early-nineties bodyboarding scene (particularly in competitions) was dominated by riders doing 360 spinners to the beach, Roach’s dropknee riding was all rail and all power.

Speaking into the camera in the introduction to his breakout video section in Scott Carter's film 'Bodyboarding: Enough Said' he monologues. “My name is Paul Roach, and one of these days we're going to stop spinning, and you know what happens then? Boom! Tail!”

Remember Stu’s description of the Slater carve above, “the cheek-puffing exertion, the flying side-kick, the Kecak hands”? That was Paul Roach “throwing the tail”, but instead of the motion coming at the end of a carve and sliding along the wave face, he was fly-kicking oncoming close out sections and blowing the back out of lips.

Stu’s breakdown of Kelly's turn reads, “Slater had unweighted his back foot and shifted bodyweight onto his front foot. With that, the rail is released, the board is laid flat”. Roach was doing the same thing, just tilted 90° and aimed at the lip.

The secret sauce in the Roach attack was the way he was able to extend and straighten his back kneeling leg as he contacted the lip in a kicking motion, while simultaneously hooking his back foot and flipper over the tail of the board. This locked the board in, prevent it from flinging free of his control, and allowing it to be brought back in and under the body as the snap ended.

Like Slater, Roach's hands conveyed the unfolding drama, as did the leg extension (with foot locking onto the board's tail), the move always ending in a shroud of spray.

In his teenage years, Roach honed this vicious, snapping, whipping style of dropknee at Seaside Reef in California. He became friends with a young surfer and aspiring filmmaker who was working on a surf film project for his school media course. The filmmaker's name? Taylor Steele. Taylor was also filming his other buddies like Rob Machado, Taylor Knox, Kalani Robb, and later Slater and Shane Dorian when they came to Cali. That school project eventually grew and evolved until it was released as the seminal surf movie 'Momentum'.

From the outside it's difficult to say to what extent Roach's style of dropkneeing had in influencing the way the new school Momentum crew did their turns. Mayhaps the tail sliding turns of the Momentum Generation and Roach's tail throwing approach was part of a wider Zeitgeist of the then-New School of surfers exploring and expressing different ways wave riding from the generation before then.

What is certain is that Roach and the Momentum members routinely shared lineups and knew each other out of the water - Roach is the guy in Momentum whacking Slater around with the boxing gloves before the film's closing section - so undoubtedly there was some cross-pollination of style and wave riding technique.

While the Momentum Generation went on to dominate the surfing world, Roach continued on for a few years as a professional bodyboarder. He was a part of the 'No Friends' crew that filmed and released hugely popular films in the boogin' world and inspired a legion of dropknee devotees who mimicked his riding, attitude, and musical preferences. When the sponsor cheques dried up and the bills needed to be paid, he humbly faded from the spotlight, began working in carpentry, raising kids, and surfing when he could.

Aside from his position as the touchstone for dropknee riders around the world, it's at least arguable that Roach's influence carries on into the wider surfing sphere to this day.

When John John Florence came off the bottom, sized up the lip, and then blew it apart with a tail throw snap for a perfect 10 at the Margaret River Pro a few weeks ago, I couldn't help but think that somewhere in California, one Paul Roach might have seen that footage and perhaps said quietly to himself, ”Yer, Boom! Tail!

//DAN DOBBIN

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Nick Bone Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 5:50pm

Fuck yeah. Just watched some of his clips. Absolute shredder! Is it a lost form these days in the bodyboarding scene?

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yvdreh Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:34pm

No more lost than bodyboarding itself.

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Finnbob the terror Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:01pm

Matt Killy from Sorrento Victoria was the dropknee king in the day. Late 80s early 90s.

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Nick Bone Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:04pm

Didn’t know Killy started out on the lid.

Cal Powell - late 90’s outback king! When the bowl was alive.

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Finnbob the terror Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:25pm

killy on the dropknee out back was king, barrel to lay back tail slides on the bowl, before the bone was born. Pretty handy stand up surfer too he didnt progress maybe until he was late teens maybe 20s.

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Nick Bone Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:36am

Seen plenty of Killy being a barrel pig. Could find em even if they weren't there!

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Nick Bone Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:37am

and his hacks at shit rock

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Finnbob the terror Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:33pm

you may have been born just

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alexz Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 9:21am

I can't ever remember Matt Killy being on a bodyboard or DK! My memory must be failing. Josh Morgan and Gumbie were always standouts drop knee (Josh from the 80s onwards, Scott from the 90s). I once saw Josh get a stand up barrel on the boogie at Portsea all the way to the sand then stepped off the board and ran up the beach after exiting the tube!

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Finnbob the terror Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 9:49am

haha, I'm guessing but Matt was probably off the boog by 1990. Then disappeared to PNG as well. Ha Gumbie, Josh, Cain Cameron, Bennet, Crosby none of those blokes had anything on Matt's DK skills.

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t-rex Sunday, 12 May 2024 at 3:57pm

Yeah!! I surfed with and around all those dudes over that period Josh and Matt Killy were far ahead of everyone else. I think Josh was better because he was so unpredictable. It was great when Matt changed to the stick because he was still so gnarly and smooth same as on the boog. Style was a big thing and rated highly in that scene back then and what I still enjoy now. His riding out the back Sorrento was awesome worth missing the bus back to Frankston (had to hitch home) to watch him surf. Goddamn!! I miss that bowl

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Finnbob the terror Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 1:51am

Ha, miss the bowl then a burger and Chocolate Nippies from Patricks. Get the bowl now and then these days.

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t-rex Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 9:19am

I used to love the chip burgers and coffee scrolls from Patrick’s and a strawberry Big M

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Rolley Monday, 13 May 2024 at 10:22pm

No mention of Sheddy Eddie? I remember being blown away by how smooth his DKing was out at Portsea as a grommie. Also have a memory of paddling out and as I went to duckdive through the face of a barreling beachie, I nearly copped Gumby's boog in the face. He was slotted so deep on the knee, I thought the wave was empty.

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Finnbob the terror Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 1:51am

Dont forget Frogga.

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goofyfoot Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 5:32am

Surely you joke about Eddie?

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Finnbob the terror Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 7:33am

Haha poor Ed. He is pretty handy at the DK but smooth may be a stretch.

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alexz Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 7:38am

I assume I know both of you @finnbob and @t-rex if you've surfed Outback for a lot of years. PS Patrick's was Geggsy's back in the day!

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Finnbob the terror Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 9:08am

Haha most likely you know me.
PS Originally Patrick’s which was owned by Ken and Nola I think that was the couples name, then Gale aka geggsi took it over and named it Geggsy’s, then Darrel Ferguson took it over and named it Fergies he then sold it to Katrina and Keenan Harris and pretty sure Mark Clayvon the chemist was involved, Katrina ran it and renamed it patrick’s. Fergie now has a cafe in Blairgowrie and Geggsie works there for him, Katrina was running All smiles at Sorrento backbeach and doing weddings. Ken and Nola would be very very old by now.

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Finnbob the terror Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 9:38am

As a primary school kid in the 80s my mates I would walk from school to sorrento back beach but we would cross the road and walk up Ossit st to avoid being hassled by the gang of scary surfer scum that hang out on the corner at Patricks.

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Finnbob the terror Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 9:38am

As a primary school kid in the 80s my mates I would walk from school to sorrento back beach but we would cross the road and walk up Ossit st to avoid being hassled by the gang of scary surfer scum that hang out on the corner at Patricks.

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t-rex Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 9:56am

Yeah j can relate to that as a blow in from Seaford I found all the crew that used to hang at Patrick’s pretty intimidating until you got to know them and hang there. I got pretty good at wonder boy waiting between tides and waiting for my chip roll. I may have also slept in the backyard over the fence on quite a few occasions if the surf was going to be good for a few days

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bdp Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 1:48pm

We used to drive over from SA for a few winters between '88 and '91 and have a comp with the Vic crew. Josh Morgan was a standout. Spot Billings and Craig (?) were always on the boil at Tibor street. Still mates with Luke Roberts. I still have the Tshirt from the '87 Teams challenge at a maxing out Gunnamatta where all the Cronulla crew turned up and Doug Robson was dominating.

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freeride76 Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 5:58pm

Yeah, are guys still doing DK?

I'm not sure I've ever seen it done live.

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Finnbob the terror Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:02pm

Few old boys trying on the mornington peninsula nothing like the late 80s and early 90s.

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murderinc Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:55am

Few guys still ripping on the knee at Strad & Dbah :)

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kaybeegee Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 9:15am

Last Wednesday I saw a yr 10 kid unironically drop knee a dredgey 3 fter during school sport. He had some poise about him.

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Craig Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 7:57am

Local guy, Phil still gets coned drop knee at North Steyne.

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StormyAndBo Sunday, 19 May 2024 at 12:15am

Phil is quite the dk lord

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Andrew P Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:07pm

Awesome article Dan. Hawaiians Kainoa McGee, Haulio Reeves, and Aussies Dave Ballard, Todd Lee and Shane Griffiths also come to mind as DKers exploding lips. To take the cross pollination theme further - I recall Paul Roach taking to the air also?

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peabo Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 8:12pm

Dave Ballard used to do these drop tail floaters which looked awesome in the mags. Never knew whether he actually landed them or if he just did them because they looked good in action shots haha.

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Andrew P Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 6:19pm

The Real Bra Boys!

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Sprout Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 7:18pm

Great read Dan! Never realised that's where 'Jack Stance' came from. Those hack picks are rad.

See a few DKers about on the SC, mostly fat old blokes keeping the dream alive haha. Lackey's the only one I've seen IRL make it look any good with style.

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Alex Papas Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 7:21pm

sick write up - would be mad to get a hell photo of someone like azza glossop alongside one of these older ones to showcase then and now

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peabo Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 8:16pm

Love this article

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poo-man Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 8:45pm

There's a deaf guy in Raglan still busting out the DK. Lives out of his van these days but he's cool as. I've learnt a bit of sign language from him over the years

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Major kong Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 9:10pm

Cool as

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jasper99 Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 10:53pm

In the states and Hawaii Aka Lyman as well as Roach were the guys and Ballard here in oz was the stand out. It's a skill that is super under rated.

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surf.rat Friday, 10 May 2024 at 5:23am

Damn we used to give shit to body-boarders back in the day. "Stand up ya Fucken Kook"
Now that I am older, well much older [early 50's] I love surfing with body-boarders and would choose to surf with them rather than surfers any day.
They charge so hard and more than that, they don't have their heads up their arse like most surfers.
There are still a lot surfing around Dbah and they rip!

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juegasiempre Sunday, 12 May 2024 at 11:13am

+1 to that. Never had anything to do with them on the GC because they really didn't exist but where I live now it's usually 50/50 Boog riders to surfers, due to the hollower waves around these parts. But the vibes are always better sharing the water with a group of boogers than surfers.

I'm keen to start my young fella on the Boog when he's of age before a surfboard due to my new found appreciation of their attitude and how they charge.

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stunet Monday, 13 May 2024 at 10:33am

My eldest boy picked up the boog last year and he's right into it. Was a bit disheartening at first, I've got a shed full of surfboards for him but he wanted to ride a lid. He's always been headstrong and wanted to do things his way so I guess it was bound to happen.

Thing is, it's given me an insight into a corner of surfing I hadn't paid that much attention to. Just this weekend for instance, he (twice!) dragged me out to a boog-friendly wave that I wouldn't otherwise have surfed. Had a ball both times, lost a bunch of skin too.

Also, pretty much every time he paddles out there, or at other waves the BBers focus on, the older crew engage him in conversation, show him where to sit, give him a few sets. Meanwhile, I sit back and watch it unfold without interference. It's unreal to see.

Few months back during a crowded session at Pipe a local fella took a shine to him, perhaps cos of his age, and while I sat in the throng, Sam got ushered to the head of the reef then allowed to have the next set. The next time we were there, we passed old mate on the track and he fist-bumped Sam.

Not sure if my judgements are right, however it feels that as surfing - stand up surfing - maneuvers itself to become the next golf, replete with big money sponsors and government involvement, the lidders are the last holdouts against this cultural gentrification and they look after each other.

A generalisation, no doubt, but I've seen enough to know it's at least partly true.

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garyg1412 Monday, 13 May 2024 at 12:07pm

+1 On having a ball with the young ones. Mine used to drag me out on those psycho big days at Nobbies Beach in the rip. Never had so much fun and never been so thrashed in my life, but made for some great memories.

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stinky_wes Monday, 13 May 2024 at 9:05pm

I went for a walk at Nobbys about the time you posted this and there were three boogs getting late drops into sandy brown closeouts. They will be getting sand out of their hair/ears/cracks for weeks!

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dandob Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 8:10am

There was a pretty special moment on the weekend Stu that speaks to this. Newy bodyboard club held a groms only comp and coaching clinic. Mike Stewart and current world champ Tanner McDaniel were in attendance waiting for the Shark Island Challenge contest to happen. They stood on the beach in the rain and coached the groms, then shared a water session with them. When the final of the comp finished and 16yr old Anthony Miller won, guess who was on hand to chair him up the beach? Stewart under one leg and McDaniel under the other!

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stunet Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 8:17am

Unreal. What a moment for the grom.

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Craig Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 2:20pm

Wow, that'd be the groms dream come true! Actually, couldn't even dream of that.

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Oceanbeach Friday, 10 May 2024 at 8:43am

the turns are a hell of a lot more photogenic and critical than the standup finless surfing I've seen, thats pretty ugly stuff

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freeride76 Friday, 10 May 2024 at 8:47am

Thats interesting- I actually thought the complete opposite- that those style of turns looked so much more pleasing to the eye on a finless surfboard minus the square bodyboard and fins hanging over the board fore and aft.

I think one of the reasons it probably died out is because it looks so awkward and unnatural.

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jasper99 Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:08am

Done badly for sure it looks awkward and unnatural thats why I wouldn't be watching any examples of DK other than Roach,Lyman,Ballard,De graff also Adam Murray.
Not that I watch a lot of bodyboarding these days but I haven't seen anything that comes close to these guys mentioned. The 90's was peak DK imo.....

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freeride76 Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:18am

Went back and watched the Roach DK from No Friends.

It hasn't aged well as a form of wave riding.

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peabo Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:39am

DK is challenging and fun to do, but i've never rated it from an aesthetic standpoint. Usually much more appealing in still shots than video. The turns are generally very fast snaps rather than anything drawn out and stylish. There are certain situations in which it can look pretty cool though.

Kainoa McGee at Ala Moana Bowls is pretty amazing to watch.

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Sprout Friday, 10 May 2024 at 11:05am

I agree it mostly looks pretty clunky, Lackey at C9 has some big smooth carves though.

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freeride76 Friday, 10 May 2024 at 11:18am

That was really good.

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dazzler Friday, 10 May 2024 at 2:34pm

He still rips.. probably had more barrels at DBah than just about anyone over past 20years

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camokazi Friday, 10 May 2024 at 3:20pm

Nothing 'clunky' about those skills... awesome!

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simsurf Monday, 13 May 2024 at 4:35pm

He rides a normal surf board on occasion too.

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dandob Friday, 10 May 2024 at 11:47am

This bloke's your best modern day practitioner, and rips stand up too

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freeride76 Friday, 10 May 2024 at 11:52am

That was very steezy and functional.
Cheers mate.

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alexz Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 9:26am

Dave Ballard early 90s was the best out there (and could also ride prone unlike Roach). Classic Chris Stroh video of Ballard ripping on the NSW South Coast here (go to 43:46)

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Finnbob the terror Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 10:04am

Cheers Alex, the last section after the credits was great.

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stunet Friday, 10 May 2024 at 12:44pm

Even made backside DK look stylish.

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Greebs Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 2:06am

What a great clip! Mad skills and style.

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simba Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 8:24am

loved that vid.....guys had more barrels than iv'e had heart beats......

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sailquik Saturday, 11 May 2024 at 11:12am

Just WOW!!

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Jono Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:01am

Here's an embed of him laying the punches on Kelly

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freeride76 Friday, 10 May 2024 at 9:20am

absolutely all-time footage.

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gman Friday, 10 May 2024 at 12:17pm

would pay good money to see Kelly on a 6'6 again....

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Clam Friday, 10 May 2024 at 11:39am

Cool article thanks dan!

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cheyno Friday, 10 May 2024 at 3:23pm

Awesome article dandob. Still remember Paul Roachs section in No Friends 1, some powerful hacks and fly kicks in there!

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Finnbob the terror Friday, 10 May 2024 at 3:27pm

https://m.


use to love Danny Kim stand up boog

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Finnbob the terror Friday, 10 May 2024 at 3:27pm

https://m.


use to love Danny Kim stand up boog

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Swany Friday, 10 May 2024 at 10:14pm

Chris Taloa had some mental Ollie’s and snaps on the standup boog. Mad story how he waited 2-3 years to spark out a young Bruce irons when he turned 18. Not sure if anyone saw that photo of Bruce at backdoor with the dent Chris put in his head. Crazy lad.

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goofyfoot Monday, 13 May 2024 at 11:05am

From memory Bruce called him a “dumb Tongan” or something like that.

Could see him being a major smart arse.

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Swany Friday, 10 May 2024 at 10:16pm
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Michael Adam Sunday, 12 May 2024 at 11:44am

Boogs have always been cooler than surfies.

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nasigoreng Sunday, 12 May 2024 at 4:56pm

+ Chris Won

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southernraw Monday, 13 May 2024 at 5:00pm

Great insightful read. Cheers!

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Craig Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 8:01am

Great article Dan, love the train of thought.

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bbbird Tuesday, 14 May 2024 at 10:54pm

Amazing story of a carving trail blazer...
I didnt know what that soft foam 1980's bogie could really do till now....
on quality waves, anything is possible
Peter Crawford in 1970's showed the future
https://www.eos.surf/videos/kneeboarding-in-the-1970s
https://www.eos.surf/surfboards/slab

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MrBungle Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 2:44pm

You should write articles for Riptide Dan ;-)

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dandob Wednesday, 15 May 2024 at 6:18pm

Just wait six months and they'll plagerise this :)

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stunet Thursday, 16 May 2024 at 7:11am

I only had to wait a week for The Green Room Times to plagiarise me.

We bought the contemporary photo. Shieldsy never ran it anywhere else. No credit just a straight rip off.

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Mack Flanno Thursday, 16 May 2024 at 11:50am

Paul Roach No Friends 1 is crucial viewing. still gets me amping.

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