Craig

Fun, clean weekend with increasing activity next week

Victoria Forecast by Craig Brokensha (issued Friday 24th July)

Best Days: Saturday swell magnets, Sunday exposed beaches, Tuesday from late morning, Wednesday Surf Coast, Thursday, Friday and Saturday next week

Recap

Clean conditions with a smallish 2ft wave on the Surf Coast and 3ft to the east, but we saw a new increase in inconsistent W/SW groundswell through the afternoon as winds tended variable, providing fun waves for the mid-late session across all locations.

Today this swell has held in with inconsistent 2-3ft sets on the Surf Coast magnets with a cold but crisp offshore wind, clean across selected locations also to the east and 3ft to occasionally 4ft. We should see the swell hold most of the day as winds tend N/NE-NE.

This weekend and next week (Jul 25 - 31)

We've got a flukey new pulse of W/SW groundswell due across the state tomorrow morning, generated by a tight and intense but southward tracking low that formed south-southwest of WA Wednesday. This short-lived system produce a fetch of gales in our swell window and this should keep inconsistent 2ft+ sets hitting the Surf Coast tomorrow morning and 3-4ft to the east with the outside chance for the rare bigger one, easing through the day.

Conditions should be favourable all day for the beaches with local offshore morning winds (light N/NW Surf Coast and N/NE Mornington Peninsula), tending variable into the afternoon, if not for a late, weak sea breeze.

Come Sunday the beaches will be best with less size (1-2ft Surf Coast and inconsistent 3ft sets Mornington Peninsula) with a morning E/NE breeze, tending variable into the afternoon.

Monday looks poor with a dawn W/NW breeze due to give into a strong S/SW change mid-morning as a trough moves in from the west.

A mix of new long-range and inconsistent W/SW groundswell should be present, though we've got a better closer-range SW groundswell event due to build late if at all before dark, peaking Tuesday. Monday's swell with the early W/NW breeze doesn't look to top an inconsistent 2ft or so on the Surf Coast early (bigger into the afternoon but onshore).

Tuesday's swell is much better, generated by a strengthening frontal progression dipping east-southeast through our swell window on the weekend and early next week.

A fetch of strong W/SW winds will reach gale to severe-gale through Sunday while sitting in our south-western swell window, then moving east and under Tassie on Monday.

A moderate sized and long-period SW groundswell should be seen from this source, arriving overnight Monday and peaking Tuesday to 3-4ft on the Surf Coast and 6ft to the east on the sets. The swell peak may be through the day rather than early and winds will still be onshore but abating rapidly.

A dawn moderate to fresh S'ly is due to tend variable by late morning/early afternoon. This will create improving conditions though Wednesday is best as an approaching front brings fresh to strong N/NW tending W/NW winds. The swell will be on the ease though from 3ft across the Surf Coast on the sets, 4-5ft to the east.

Wednesday's front will be attached to a much broader but patchy frontal progression moving in from the west through early week, with some reinforcing W/SW groundswell due into Thursday and Friday. It's hard to put a final size on these swells but it's looking to be around 3ft on the Surf Coast and 4-5ft+ to the east with persistent NW winds as the fronts deflect to the south-east.

Longer term, on the back of this progression a more significant low is on the cards, generating a larger swell for next weekend with favourable winds Saturday. More on this Monday though. Have a great weekend!

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 9:55am

Lol, alright who was it

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Christian east coast commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 7:58am

Some loser with anger management problems with nothing better to do

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 9:57am

Ha ha ha you beat me to it geek

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:09am

Was eagerly waiting for the new notes so I could get it at the top haha

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Oceanbeach commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:16am

Classic, I'm guess you have more chance catching covid at Bunnings buying the materials for the sign than from another surfer in the water

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thermalben commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:19am

I love the assumption that crew who live at the coast rip, and those who live in town are kooks.

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Nick Bone commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:42am

Buts it true. They rip. Rip bongs

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Stok commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:52am

It's the assumption that is as old as time itself!

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Nolan commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 2:01pm

I feel lucky to live behind a primary dune on the Peninsula within stones throw of some decent, consistent, and hence reasonably localised waves. I've surfed the area for a long time, though like most, not exclusively.

My view is that competent surfers, particularly on the peninsula given the constantly shifting conditions, don't get overly worked up about crowds. Sure, it can be frustrating, but there's often alternatives or waves can be craftily had among the throngs. Typically those who complain loudest lack the skill to deal with available conditions.

Personally it doesn't bother me how you surf or where you live, its how you think, live and behave that matters. Perhaps its worth trying what life is like when we drop the "us and them" mindset and choose to be inclusive instead.

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sandgroper commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 2:13pm

Nice to hear Nolan.

I grew up surfing South-West WA where the locals wouldn't bat an eyelid at Perth surfers coming down every weekend. The locals ripped and just sat deeper than everyone else, made every drop and generally speaking - got the best waves. I have genuinely been taken back at the type of localism demonstrated in Vicco. Obviously, I'm talking about the visible 1%, 99% of locals smile and wave.

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Nolan commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 2:59pm

I also grew up around Margarets in the late 80's/early 90's Sandgroper. The difference btw SW WA and Vic is that all but 2 or 3 spots East of Kennett River are user friendly (other than the largest swells) meaning that paddling deep beyond the crowd usually just means you'll get caught behind. SW WA is the exact opposite requiring real commitment and skill to get the best waves. I'll never forget an old salty traveller telling me years ago "You can always tell a WA surfer, they are the ones still hitting the lip when it gets above 6'". But Vic is wonderful for different reasons - there are quality, consistent waves on the doorstep of one of the worlds great cities.

Best to ignore the 1%'ers, they exist in every walk of life. One of the greatest things about Australia is that nobody owns the beach and if only we could respect the land rather than staking our claim to it we would be a happier people. That said, most people bring joy if you invite them in with a smile.

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bluediamond commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:45pm

Really enjoyed reading both these posts Nolan and Sandgroper. Good perspective and open mindedness. Cheers!

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Dx3 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 2:57pm

It's pretty embarrassing behaviour from those involved to be honest, shows how small minded they are. Majority that live in coastal regions either rely on visitor money for their businesses to survive, or they themselves travel back up to the city/burbs for money each week, or they are retirees who made their money in the city and have now moved coastal, so to abuse people not from the area is bullshit. I say majority as I'm sure there might be the odd person born & bred who doesn't need to leave the area for anything, but even then I'm sure their friends down that way fall into one of the other categories. In the case of the virus, you're better off looking around at those living in and leaving your local area for work each day than you are at a traveling surfer, but even then, show respect as they need to put food on the table.

As you said, it's all about how you behave in the water. Show respect, get respect. Every surfer travels at some point, who gives a shit where you lay your head down each night.

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NorthWestSouth commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 7:59am

I'd assume most people in Melbourne don't even know how to swim. It's smarter to assume that any one from melbourne has got a virus unless they have been tested. There will always be more kooks and virus in a city

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Frodge commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:22am

Another message, open to interpretation........
Metro Melbourne is MP, so are they telling themselves to F off?
Or just kooks aren't allowed??

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Dx3 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:28am

Yep, as hard as it may be to take, those are on the MP are as much Melbourne / Metro Melbourne as those in Oakleigh, Kew, Toorak, Dandenong, Tullamarine etc etc. The boundary lines have been drawn. MP is Melbourne. We're all kooks.

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Hiccups commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:55am

Maybe they forgot to write "signed" before "metro" kooks.

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Oceanbeach commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:25am

Can dogs get covid?

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Stok commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:51am

Only metro dogs!

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vicco11 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:53am

A lot of MP locals (if they even exist) would regularly travel to "metro" Melbourne for work... hypocritical much?
It's starting to feel like it'd be easier if the government just banned surfing altogether if people are that concerned that surfing will spread the virus, just like they did in many other countries. Would that make "locals" happier and feel safer?

The beachies look like they'll be fun there once again so I hope everyone can put a smile on their face, social distance when checking the waves and enjoy being able to have a paddle.

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 10:58am

Of course they exist, why wouldn’t they?

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:11am

Tbh would feel a lot safer if it was banned. We just want an even playing field down here. Geelong/surf coast/Colac are free to do what they want (with 5-6 times the active numbers we do) and are protected by roadblocks. We are open slather for surfing, golf and mountain biking? Shits fucked

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Stok commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:41am

Come on geek, I live in St Kilda and would love the same. Borders to the suburb should be thrown up here and bars etc should open. We don't have that many cases. You seen the spread of cases around Melb? They're all up North West. Also a bunch down South East.

Why should the Peninsula be any different to say Frankston, Mordialloc, Mt Eliza, the Dandenongs etc.

You're absolutely right regarding shits fucked, but we're in it together as Melburnians, hell even as Victorians (whether you like it or not). I had to choose a city residence due to work and oh how I'd love to be living in quiet coastal town now. I'm not sure why you're living on the peninsula but it aint that isolated coastal town I'm sure you're hoping for.

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The Plowking commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 8:35pm

Mate, there's roadblocks and checks on the major exits most days.
Get your hand off it.
If I'm working in Rye, I'm surfing in Rye.

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pigdog commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 7:43pm

That's my name,
That name again
Is Mr. Plow.

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dr-surf commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:33am

Scaremongering never Solved any Pandemic. Surfing with Months of Real Experience around Australia has not been connected with any transmissions of COVID 19 to this point. To bitch and moan about anybody going Surfing, whilst getting into a Car to go Surf themselves is a Hypocrite at Best.

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Stok commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:42am

Genuine question - are crew on the peninsula wearing masks when doing their surf checks?

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Jono commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:50am

...or wearing masks when erecting signs in the sand dunes?

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stylemaster1970 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:41pm

Always good to stay masked when erecting in the dunes...........

If you argue with a fool long enough you will lose sight of who the fool really is........

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Nick Bone commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 11:53am

Sure am. Alot of po around. The whole mask thing isn’t hard nor a big ask.

I am the bone

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:02pm

I like them, keeps my face warm

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Craig commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:04pm

Don't get Zen in here..

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AndyM commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 7:37pm

I'd hate to think what he does to keep his face warm.

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Oceanbeach commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:09pm

Just saying... 'covid dogs metro kooks' is a GREAT band name

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Oceanbeach commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:19pm

first album could be 'F off Melbourne '

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Craig commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:10pm

Lurvely..


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Dx3 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 1:14pm

Craig please, don't make this any harder than it has to be haha

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NorthWestSouth commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:12pm

A total ban on surfing would be epic, that should really kill the surfing population and get the kooks out of the water for good. And there is no way a surf ban would stop me from surfing, i live within walking distance to the 2 best waves in juc

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HKFC commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:26pm

Congratulations core lord

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Christian east coast commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 8:06am

Cool story bro

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Craig commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 12:16pm

Down it comes..

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pgs commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 1:52pm

Hey Geek, obviously U are a peninsula local however there has been roadblocks on the peninsula hwy exits. The police have been scaning number plates and questioning drivers. I was at Triggers last Friday and Paul told me that Phil was questioned by police at Sorrento. Police have also been at Pt Leo scanning number plates and doing drive byes. I haven't heard of any one been fined however I have decided to give surfing a miss for a while.

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 2:14pm

Good news. Was quiet during the week but I’m hearing there’s a few setup right now just in time for the Friday arvo rush

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goofyfoot commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 3:32pm

Just in case you city dogs didn’t get the message this morning
:-) :-) :-) can you believe this shit! Hehehe

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Rabbits68 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 3:43pm

Dogs are awesome! I think people that don't like other people need to start referring to them as Cats.....

Pristine

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Frodge commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 3:59pm

Another example of someone from 'Metro Melbourne' breaking the rules,
unless graffiti is now on the list of reasons why you can leave the house

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Vic Local commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 4:16pm

I just want to put it on the public record that, "I have not moved to the Mornington Peninsula or visited there since January". That is all.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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Walk around G commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 4:53pm

Classic VL, nice disclaimer, at least you've finally found your sense of humour.

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Nick Bone commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 4:58pm

I like it

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denchy commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 5:03pm

Have reviewed the government guidelines and you must travel to closest possible location for your exercise. Surfing is allowed, therefore the closest surf within the metro restricted area is the Mornington Peninsula. So with that written documentation all those with the lockdown can go to MP without risk of fines.
Guess its going to be busy

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Vic Local commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 5:13pm

denchy,
There's surf in Brighton and St Kilda. Not very good surf, but you can get your exercise there.
I'm kind of sick of people looking for loopholes to justify behaviour that defies commonsense and medical advice. We are in a shit situation because people thought they were special.
Don't take the piss, do some push ups in your living room and stay at home.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:20pm

Just as much a battle against fuckwits as it is a virus VL

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The Plowking commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 8:39pm

Looking in the mirror eh?

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Chaz commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 8:34pm

well said denchy

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stylemaster1970 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 7:50pm

Sure it’s been said to exercise in you local area. This is not a localism thing, it’s about stopping the spread. Stay at home cockhead and stop looking for loopholes.

If you argue with a fool long enough you will lose sight of who the fool really is........

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Frodge commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 5:41pm

VL
The problem is,
it isn’t a loophole, it’s just the way it is.
Those who try to say otherwise are the ones searching for loopholes / making interpretations.

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:14pm

The premier, CHO and police minister say every fucking day to not travel far from home. The premier has also said a 200km round trip is a day trip and is not on. FFS it’s a loophole, stay the fuck at home

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Vic Local commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 8:59pm

Spot on geek. To get this virus under control we need a very high percentage of the population to show commonsense and not be complete dickheads. Given the infection numbers, travelling from Melbourne for a surf on the MP is just fucking ridiculous.
Melbourne people spread the virus to the MP in March. It's not like the locals are going to have the welcome mat out for travelling surfers now.

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carpetman commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 1:12am

What about travelling to Melbourne for work VL?
Acceptable?

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Vic Local commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 3:49pm

For emergency services yes, for everyone else no.

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Joshy2000 commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 5:48pm

Exactly right Frodge. It’s not a loophole when it’s written in black and white.

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denchy commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 5:51pm

Vic local
No taking the piss here, Besides, I'm on the surfcoast
From the gov website-: "You should use the parks and public spaces which are closest to your home. This includes walking, hiking, bike riding, surfing, kayaking or yoga in the park."
So unless its blowing 40 knot Southwest, closest surf in restricted area is Gunnamatta.

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geek commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:07pm

It’s not gunnamatta, it’s pt leo!

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denchy commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:26pm

Geek.
As the crow flies and if you were coming by boat, it would be C##$%#$.
A few south easterlies are coming....
Just sayin

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Nick Bone commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:51pm

But I mean, it's still Metropolitan Melb. So don't worry about the boat. Drive right round, park at the park, walk right on down. The rules are black and white. It really ties in with the "Common Sense" that Danny boy was on about.

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Nick Bone commented Friday, 24 Jul 2020 at 6:54pm

Stop the arguing. People will do what they do. Forum Comments ain't gonna deter anyone. The main thing is, keep this Winter up!

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Finnbob the terror commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:27am

Why is the Mornington Peninsula even part of the lock down?
Seems crazy to include any area that has low case numbers part of a lock down area with high case numbers, allowing possible travel and spread to areas that have low numbers. Boarders could be made differently than just saying metro melbourne.
Whats more annoying is for as long as I can remember anytime I have had to get deliveries from metro Melbourne to the southern peninsula we have to pay extra for rural delivery. Guess we can get cheeper deliveries from now on though.
Surfed yesterday, gotta say pretty frustrating seeing 6 early 20 year old blokes turning up together in 2 cars from god knows where unmasked surfing a usually uncrowded spot on the southern peninsula laughing how they told the cops they were heading down for work.
It actually seems less crowded down here this lockdown than the last not just in the water but in general, hopefully people continue to be sensible and don't spread this thing to areas that don't have many cases.

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Joshy2000 commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 8:50am

You’ve got 77 cases mate. I live in the Yarra Ranges with lower cases but aren’t whining about being included in the lockdown just accept it for what it is.

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stylemaster1970 commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 10:42am

try 12 mate but dont let the truth get in the way of a good story.

If you argue with a fool long enough you will lose sight of who the fool really is........

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Finnbob the terror commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 6:14am

It actually doesn't worry me in a lock down, it doesn't change my life a lot.
6 kids, mainly at home dad with a wife that runs our local supermarket.
But when travel to relatively small towns with low cases is still acceptable from areas with high numbers seems crazy to me, whether it's for surfing, work or staying in your holiday home.
The last lock down was out of control down here here with the influx of people, still is this time but not as bad. The whole surfing thing doesn't really concern me. As long as you turn up have a surf then go.
The extra pressure of extra people in the area using resources and infrastructure at a time when it is usually quiet has put extra pressure on locals live's and business in a time when people don't need the stress.
I'm sure that most people who live on the southern peninsula wouldn't mind not being able to travel to Melbourne even for work if it was going to help with the spread of this virus. Not that I personally no many people that have to travel to Melbourne for work.
Not sure what the peninsulas case numbers are, but at the start of the second lock down we were at 6 and that was in the Mornington Mt Eliza area. If the Yarra ranges are low then you shouldn't be included either.

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Finnbob the terror commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:42am

Maybe the inclusion of the peninsula has something to do with the fact that our premier has his family holiday house in Blairgowrie, also most of the wealthy influential people fo Melbourne have a family holiday house on the southern peninsula.

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Vic Local commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 8:24am

Or maybe it’s based on infection numbers in the region and logistical issues of setting the boundary further north.?
Andrews has worked everyday for months and months. Don’t think he’s been to his alleged holiday house. He’s not Scumo who goes on holidays during a crisis.

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Joshy2000 commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 9:01am

Yeah he did a brilliant job with the hotel quarantine. That’s the whole reason for this second wave!

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Vic Local commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 3:59pm

I'm tipping you won't hold Gladys to the same levels of accountability when ordinary Sydneysiders do stupid things like pack out pubs.

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velocityjohnno commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 5:44pm

1.85 billion estimated cost, possibly the most expensive root in history

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Vic Local commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:03pm

possibly? I reckon the shags by Mr and Mrs Hitler senior, and Fred Trump and Mrs Trump probably cost the world a lot more, but yes, it's a hell of a price to pay for a randy Covid quarantinee and a security guard.

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NorthWestSouth commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 9:03am

All that matters is that if you get the virus you won't be surfing or leaving your post code for possibly 3 yrs. They just don't get it

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Dx3 commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 9:59am

Haha 3 years. Ok champ whatever you say

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Kellya commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 10:14am

I find all this very interesting, the whole metro/country/locals things. Having grown up in Geelong I used to see us as being separate from the city. Upon a recent trip back, seeing all the development it is easy to recognise Geelong as being part of the greater city of Melbourne. Having not been down the Mornington for ages but looking at a map I can’t see how it’s any different over there.
Same thing is happening over in the West. Living in Mandurah now for years, I have seen the area go from major country city to part of the greater city of Perth. It’s always changing along with future development. It’s already creeping down the coast into the South West. It won’t be long until Dunsbrough/Yallingup/Margs will be in the same boat.

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Craig commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 11:29am

Glass..

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goofyfoot commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:13pm

Close outs from gunna to Portsea this morning

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Craig commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:17pm

On the low yeah? Least it lookes nice ;p

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Nick Bone commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:34pm

Not for long

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goofyfoot commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:45pm

All day bone, all day..

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Nick Bone commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 4:40pm

Was talking bout the Sea breeze

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McGusto commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 12:45pm

MP included because majority of people in MP work in greater metro Melb. Fact. From the perspective of the virus and contagion this is far more a risk to MP than ‘metro’ surfers will ever be
Just sayin

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_Bodhi_ commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 1:17pm

Good luck victorians in stamping down the 2nd wave. Your hard work and tolerance is much appreciated throughout Oz, & will hopefully minimise another wave hitting other cities. So, from a fellow surfer who is currently enjoying his freedom in SE QLD, thank you!!!

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Walk around G commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 6:30pm

Ok Craig, here's a technical question for you.

Since when do we get these pesky seabreeze's continuing through until mid-winter?, we've had several this season and I'm baffled. Where are the usual typographical wind influences that I have become accustomed too at this time of year? The waters cold, around 13deg the land around the same temperature at its absolute peak during the afternoon but still we're getting a localised seabreeze kicking in?
We've had relatively small weak mid-period swells so far this season but these bloody seabreezes are just rubbing extra salt into the wounds.

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Craig commented Saturday, 25 Jul 2020 at 10:48pm

This time of year, even though I label as sea breeze it's more so the general synoptic flow overiding the local morning land breeze.

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Walk around G commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:22am

Doesn't look like much synoptic wind flow influence this morning Craig but we sure have wacky wind report's?? I always remember light NW land breezes around these parts under similar synoptic situations.

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Walk around G commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:10am

More wacky wind......

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Walk around G commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:26am

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Craig commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 9:09am

It's weak WAG but it's there, hence South Channel being SE all night and into this morning.

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NorthWestSouth commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:12am

I still can't believe nearly everyday for the last 3 months has been sunny and 14 degrees+. Next week 15-17 degrees with swell. Surfed every day this week fun waves and no crowd. Not gonna bother traveling for a surf today, got my fair share of waves through the week because lack of crowds. Will relax at home today and wait for next week

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andr3w6 commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 11:31am

Just wondering, does anyone know of a surfer heading to the Peninsula, being stopped at a roadblock and being fined? This would perhaps answer the question of whether those of us who don’t live in the Peninsula are actually allowed to travel there to surf - given that it is the closest place we can surf. I agree that going by the governments explanation of restrictions I should be able to travel from the inner south east to surf on the MP, but wonder if the police at the roadblocks feel the same way? Or are they creating ambiguity so so they can issue more fines to make up for the drop in revenue from speeding fines during lockdown?

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geek commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 11:37am

459 new cases, 10 deaths. STAY THE FUCK AT HOME. Fuck me how hard is it

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Vic Local commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 12:03pm

Hey andr3w6,
Read geek's comment again.
Rather than doing a 200km round trip, show some common fucking sense dude.

"angry online, smiley in the brine"

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Stok commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 2:08pm

Ah the old common sense idea. Problem is common sense subjective as fuck.

To be clear, I'm not surfing now, for my own personal reasons. But I understand that my own situation is not transferable to everyone else. People are going to decide to interpret the rules in a way which makes sense to them, and lots of them will be travelling within the lockdown zone to surf (some probably even out of the lockdown zone). Some travelling 20km, some 2km, and yes, some 200km. Regardless of what case numbers are doing. Government needs to make this clearer or it's going to keep happening.

Common sense to me is that surfing, or sitting in your car on the way to and from a surf, is not spreading this virus. There are so many other more viable ways for a virus to spread (essential activity or not), even during this time of lockdown, than surfing. There's also so many other more viable ways for it to spread around the city/country. Surfing is sweet fuck all in the scheme of things.

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WarriSymbol commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 3:56pm

Surely, with so many aged retirees on the MP no local would possibly think of travelling anywhere north of Mornington for work, yeah?
After all, work or play, the virus doesn't care.

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geek commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 4:33pm

Well 1. Judging by the google maps traffic there’s a fraction of people travelling for work now and 2. Why is it residents that need to go to there job to provide for their families mean it’s open season for the 10s of 1000s of surfers in the metro area to head down to the MP for a leisure activity?

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WarriSymbol commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 6:23pm

10s of 1000s... really?
No wonder you lot are pissed off.
Never knew it was that bad.
Don't think i've even seen 10s of 1000s in the water.... ever!

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geek commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 6:54pm

420,000 ‘annual surf participants’ in Aus according to Wikipedia. Melb has 6m people so it’s is completely feasible there are 10s of 1000s of surfers in the city.

Anyway you didn’t address my point, do you think it’s ok that as people are driving north for work to provide for their families that every single city surfer has a right to drive to the MP for a leisure activity during a near complete lockdown and deadly pandemic?

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WarriSymbol commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 10:20pm

Do I think it’s ok that as people are driving north for work? No, the virus doesn't care if you need to provide.
Should every single city surfer has a right to drive to the MP? No 'cause of the 'rona.

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The Plowking commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:05pm

I'm working around pt leo/Flinders this week.
I'll be having a surf or 2 before or after work at my regular spot as the travel there is incidental.
Besides which, no-one there will be upset at me whatsoever.
I reckon I'll catch a couple for geek.

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pigdog commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 9:20pm

It's been the best results all week geek 42000 tests %1 infection rate. It's the lowest infection rate all week. What ever was implemented 14 days ago is working.
If its not Monday will be 920 infection and Tuesday 1840 infections.

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thermalben commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 11:41am

"Or are they creating ambiguity so so they can issue more fines to make up for the drop in revenue from speeding fines during lockdown?"

Gotta admit, this is one of better conspiracy theories I've heard. Well done!

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velocityjohnno commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 12:10pm

Chopper's Travel Ban guide ep4: Victoria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTKiF58UZrQ

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Walk around G commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 5:10pm

Thanks mate, I enjoyed that, funny as!

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andr3w6 commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 4:27pm

I’ll ignore your aggro Vic Local - but in a way that’s exactly my point. Common sense is totally subjective, so why doesn’t the government just say, you can’t travel more than X kms for excercise?

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pigdog commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 9:10pm

They do DHHS say "no overnight travel "

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Joshy2000 commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 10:44am

No ones said they’re staying overnight

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ringmaster commented Sunday, 26 Jul 2020 at 8:16pm

Hey, if I live in Lara but work in Williamstown and shop in Werribee but worship in Torquay can I still surf at Gunnamatta?

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:15pm

That depends if you're a Sovereign Citizen ringmaster. You can find their up to date legal advice on the web!! When a cop pulls you over, just read from the script, film the whole thing, and put it on Facebook.

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 8:19am

When it comes to the "should I / shouldn't I" question re exercise, there's a very good way to solve your dilemma.
Rather than asking yourself this question, pretend you're asking an ICU nurse.
eg "Should I take a 200km round trip to the MP for a surf?" Can you imagine the response of a medico who is at the pointy end of Covid 19, and is risking their health to treat patients (many of who haven't socially distanced)
In fact, I have a feeling that most people thinking about a 200km round trip for a surf wouldn't have the guts to even ask an ICU nurse that question. Deep down they must know it's a stupid thing to do.

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The Plowking commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:15am

So what about old mate from Dromana or Mt Martha?
Or Hastings surfing point leo.
It's an interesting set of hypotheticals self appointed 'core' Peninsula locals are creating

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NorthWestSouth commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 8:39am

Would be nice if this virus targeted the people that don't have common sense . These same people keep crowdibg out the line up when the waves are crap in the middle of the flu season. Get use to quarrantine or keep destroying the world

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Joshy2000 commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 8:48am

According to VL’s set of rules we can’t even walk out our own front door, we must do push-ups in our living room.Yet at the start of this pandemic he’s off doing 100km time trials on his bike, be sure to ask the nurse’s if that’s a good idea.

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 10:24am

Joshy2000.
Stop talking absolute shit. I never said you can't leave your house to exercise. I said you shouldn't be doing 200km round trips to go surfing, moving from an area where Covid 19 is rampant to an area where numbers are relatively low. This is especially the case because the MP has limited medical facilities and an older population. Common Fucking Sense dude.
And yes, I'm still riding my bike (alone) though farm land like I've done for the last 20+ years. Guess what, I've never come across a pedestrian out that way after 40,000km+ of riding. You can't catch or pass on this virus if you are by yourself. Common Fucking Sense man Karen.

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Stok commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:25am

Would you ask an ICU nurse if the bike ride is ok? I'd suspect they'd be saying stay home as much as you possibly can....but you've decided that what you're doing is ok and frankly - that's fine.

But what if you fall and need help?

And what if you're providing a damaging role-model here? Don't exercise at home, go out and try and find a quiet trail all to yourself? Sure you're lucky geographically but what about the people who live two suburbs down from these empty trails. Or maybe even further.

Same thing goes with surfing. Is it best to surf your crowded local, or to drive to a more quiet spot? Maybe surfers on the surf coast should actually be travelling further down to the more remote spots, rather than flooding Winki/Bells?

As you can see, we're so deep in grey area here it's not funny. The rules need to be clear otherwise opinions won't change.

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:29pm

Stok, I get there is a grey area, but surely erring on the side of caution is the sensible option. I'm lucky, I live in an area with very few infections, but I'm still super cautious.
I haven't ridden with another person since February and I ride routes, and at times where I simply won't come across anyone.
The simple fact is, if everyone adopted my standards Australia would be like NZ and be virus free. If everyone thought it was OK to travel 200km for a surf from areas where infection rates are high, we'd be in the same situation as the UK or USA. This virus has crushed my business, so at the end of the day, I'm in no mode to tolerate fucking morons who look for loopholes. And I'm lucky, nobody I know has died from the virus.
In two weeks time, let's look at the death toll and infection rates and revisit the idea of travelling 200km for a surf. I'm tipping that attitude isn't going to stand the test of time.

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Stok commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 2:21pm

I'd be thinking the idea of travelling for work won't stand the test of time, considering work places are where the virus is spreading.

It's only a matter of time until someone working in aged care gets a runny nose, lives in Geelong and travels to various centres around Melbourne and the SC. Runny nose turns out to be Covid, due to poor managerial practices and casualisation that person still come to work and the outbreak continues.

Until this stops, it's pretty easy for crew to justify to themselves a solo trip to the waves, particularly as it is within the rules.

And yes I'm sure if we all lived like you we'd be virus free...but you know that's impossible.

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 2:39pm

Agree with you re travel for work. I've been saying it should be only essential services getting through the lockdown border. Police, Firies, ambos, medicals, social services, corrections, and maybe workplace health and safety inspectors. That's about it. The Colac cluster is absolutely ridiculous given the source. How stupid can you get?
I've also been banging on about precarious casual workers needing income protection if they get sick. This has always been a massive red flag and Scumo has done nothing about it.
As for "it's pretty easy for crew to justify to themselves a solo trip to the waves", one shit situation never justifies another. And just like the last lockdown, those solo trips often turn into 2 or 3 others in the car, and a cafe /supermarket stop to refuel for a second surf or an overnight stay at a mate's place. Victoria is in a pile of poo because so many people have justified shit behaviour to themselves.

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Joshy2000 commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 10:34am

You told Denchy earlier in this post to stay home and do push-ups in his/her living room.

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 11:27am

That's instead of going for a 200km round trip for a surf. Denchy is fine to go for a run in his / her neighbourhood. What part of "don't travel to exercise" don't you understand?
The MP got wacked by Covid 19 in March because a bunch of selfish arseholes travelled there against medical advice. Some even knew they had the virus. Can you understand why MP locals don't want to get round 2 due to Melbourne surfers who insist on "exercising" down there?
532 new cases overnight. Are you that fucking stupid Josh to think that driving to the MP for a surf is acceptable? That type of shit is getting close to Bunning's Karen idiocy.

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Joshy2000 commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 1:16pm

This is taken from DHHS:

“I live in Melbourne or Mitchell Shire. Can I undertake recreational activities like fishing?

Yes. If you live in metropolitan Melbourne and Mitchell Shire, you can leave home for permitted exercise and recreation activities that are outdoors and can be done by yourself, members of your household, or with one other person.

This includes, fishing, hunting, boating, surfing, recreational diving, learning to drive, or reading in a park. Exercise and recreational activities should be undertaken at the closest available locations to your home.”

That’s the set of rules I’m following, not some aggro know it all Swellnet forumer, who claims the world would be a better place if everyone adopted his own set of standards, you wanker.

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Vic Local commented Monday, 27 Jul 2020 at 1:36pm

From the same source you arseclown.
Is there a limit on how far I can go if I am out for one of the four reasons?

You should not travel further than you need to. Please use common sense and consideration when it comes to these activities and stay close to home.

You should not travel further than you need to and you should go to the beach closest to your home.

Victorians must use common sense and consideration when it comes to their activities. Lives are counting on it.

I can find multiple references in that document indicating trips down to the MP are not recommended, but hey, just pick out the bit you think sounds OK and act like a selfish man karen. Just don't expect the locals to treat you with any respect.

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