Complex forecast; lots of waves

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 20th February)

Best Days: Should be good waves most days, although actual size is still unsure (peak expected late Sun and Mon). Winds should generally be good.

Recap: Quality E/NE swell with generally good winds. 

This weekend (Feb 21 - 22)

It’s been a very active week of weather in the north, and some changes in the evolution of Severe Tropical Cyclone Marcia have resulted in a delay and slight downgrade in the weekend surf forecast. 

On Wednesday, the general consensus was that the developing Tropical Low in the Coral Sea would merge with a trough off SE Qld on Thursday, before running parallel to the Northern NSW coast through Friday and Saturday. 

This hasn’t quite happened (yet) - the Tropical Low quickly exceeded intensification expectations, with the now widely reported Cat 5 TC Marcia moving a little more slowly in its southward track (with a coastal crossing this morning near Shoalwater Bay, on the Capricorn Coast of Central Queensland). It's expected to weaken as is moves overland before then pushing off the SE Qld coast on Saturday afternoon. 

STC Marcia is still then expected to consolidate within the trough offshore from the Qld/NSW border but its future movements from there are still not particularly clear. The latest model guidance is still (!) divergent on where the low will track, however what is clear is that the low will probably remain at least a little more north in latitude than Wednesday’s expectations - if not a lot more north. It’s also evolving more slowly than initially thought.

That being said we should still see some developments within our NE swell window over the coming 24-36 hours. Saturday will probably remain similar to today with a steady supply of moderate NE and E/NE swell somewhere between 3ft and 5ft at exposed NE facing beaches (smaller at south facing beaches). Winds are expected to be light to moderate NE all day (possibly variable for periods) so conditions should be pretty good. 

Sunday is where we’re likely to see a slightly bigger pulse of NE swell from the reformed TC Marcia off the  Northern NSW coast early Saturday. Early morning is expected to be similar to Saturday (3-5ft at NE facing beaches) but we should see a boost towards 5-6ft through the mid to late afternoon.

However, both this size increase and also Sunday’s local wind regime is highly dependent on how and where this system tracks.

Based on the current data, we’ll see a freshening SE winds during the day (nothing too strong, but enough to cause some bumpiness) however there is a chance for an upgrade above the earlier forecast size - but if this happens local winds may be a little stronger. In particular if the GFS solution were to eventuate we’d probably be looking at 8ft+ sets late Sunday or Monday but this model has been slowly edging away from a big southern NSW swell event over the last 24 hours, so my confidence is wavering.

Is there a chance for a downgrade? Yes, it certainly couldn't be ruled out (for the late Sun/Mon pulse) but that would require a major about-face in the model gudiance over a very short time frame.

As such, it’ll probably be worth an interim update on this sometime later Saturday - I’ll mention anything relevant in the comments section below.

Next week (Feb 23 onwards)  

With reduced confidence for Sunday’s pulse - at just 48 hours in advance - we’re really at the mercy of the models for the long term forecast through next week.

Best estimations at the moment are for Sunday’s late pulse to maintain 5-6ft waves at NE facing beaches through Monday, before easing slowly through Tuesday and Wednesday. I'll update in the comments below if there are any major upgrades or downgrades. 

Persistent trade activity north and north-east of New Zealand should ensure a steady supply of E/NE swell in the 2-3ft+ range for the second half of the week right through into the weekend

Otherwise, despite the suggestion for a few new sources of swell in the long range, it’s probably better to wait until Monday when we’ll have a lot more clarify on the situation. Have a great weekend! See you Monday.

Comments

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nottombatman Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 4:16pm

Alright, alright, alright. Cheers Ben!

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evosurfer Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 4:27pm

Not surprised just disappointed the usual downgrade.

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Scorpion Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 4:38pm

Complex gig for a forecaster at the moment

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nbs Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 5:05pm

As per usual Northern beaches complete waste of time!!

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kerry1 Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 5:31pm

I say get there every day and take what you can get don't get your expectations too high as usual. One minute it is 3m E swell for Monday with S winds this is great! I'm going with that down the coast at my favourite reef breaks forget the updates.

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jimbrown Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 12:53am

Sweet, what are your favourite reef breaks?

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kerry1 Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 10:27am

Redsands, Cowries, Werri Point, Plantation Point(Jervis Bay) Numerous reefs around Sussex and Bendalong,Bawley Point, Guillotines. No crowds here.

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jimbrown Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 10:55am

Cheers, I'll give da boys a call and we'll see you there

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Mr Loose Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 6:38pm

Nice one.... I'm sure you'll score, these spots all pump when it's light to moderate N/E eh?

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kerry1 Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 1:33am

S eh!!!!

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geoffrey Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 7:32pm

No crowds? You must be surfing at night

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kerry1 Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 1:13am

Only surf Mon to Friday. Mid week you can have only max of 6 guys out where I have been. Secret during the week.

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geoffrey Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 12:22pm

So that's what it is! Every time I try to find the turnoff for bawley point during the week I alwAys end up in Batemans bay. However sat and sun I can find the turnoff no worries. It all makes sense now

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udo Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 5:57pm

Part 1 of the Elderslie ramblings.

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geoffrey Friday, 20 Feb 2015 at 6:11pm

inside joke?

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erikb Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 12:43pm

Any update on what to expect for tomorrow? Same as today? Currently a few hours south of sydney.. thanks in advance :)

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 1:07pm

I'll take a look later this afternoon and will update then.

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kerry1 Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 1:10am

Sat report(Swellnet) - Winds are expected to be light to moderate NE all day (possibly variable for periods) so conditions should be pretty good............... .....Well right now the wind on the Coal coast is SE at 4K

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 3:40pm

What does 'light and variable' mean, Kerry?

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seaman-staines Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 4:07pm

Rob Machado riding switch?

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kerry1 Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 1:07am

Dont ask me I just copy pasted from Swellnet report

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thermalben Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 6:26am

Ahh, so you were referencing a particular part of the forecast for Saturday, pointing out that it was inline with expectation then? Thanks!

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Mr Loose Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 6:41pm

Surely it means it's meant to go N/W for lenghty periods Ben. Not a variable sea breeze eh? Is Kerry for real?

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kerry1 Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 1:08am

Dont ask me I just copy pasted from Swellnet report

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bigkiwisi Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 7:47pm

Ba ha ha.....

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thermalben Saturday, 21 Feb 2015 at 8:05pm

Looks like the models have again slowed and stalled the reformation of TC Marcia off the SE Qld coast, whilst also weakening core wind strengths and reducing its southwards track.

This means a slight downgrade for the NE pulse due on Sunday aftermn, with a later arrival time - we'll probably see inconsistent 3-4ft waves for most of the day with a late small kick that should pulse through Monday but probably reaching 3-5ft at NE facing beaches. This pattern should even persist into early Tuesday before slowly easing during the day. 

As for winds - no swing to the southern quadrant now either - so mainly light to moderate E'ly with periods of variable conditions at times (like today).

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kerry1 Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 2:04am

Giddyup wish I were at Kirra.

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oiley Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 2:17pm

no complaints here, there were the occassional 5ft bomb coming through sat arvo down south.. expect next few days to be top notch

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bigkiwisi Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 8:09pm

Ben, whadda ya reckon about tomorrow on the Northern Beaches mate? Worth going into work late?

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seaman-staines Sunday, 22 Feb 2015 at 8:46pm

First time in the 10 years I have lived here Kirra was looking like Kirra this afternoon. Wait until you see the footage to make judgement, but I am guessing there will be a lot of video dropped in the next day.