South swell, north winds

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Ben Matson (thermalben)

Sydney, Hunter and Illawarra Surf Forecast by Ben Matson (issued Friday 3rd October)

Best Days: Saturday: large, easing S'ly swell with (briefly) NW tending N'ly then NE winds. Sunday: moderate, easing S'ly swell with NW winds and sea breezes.

Recap: Fun leftover south swell on Thursday (3-4ft, bigger in the Hunter) with early offshores and afternoon sea breezes. Slightly smaller this morning but building slowly during the day with early light offshores now moderate onshore. No sign of the expected large swell in Sydney yet however wave buoys in the south of the state have picked it up, and Victoria delivered some impressive surf today from the same source (which qualifies the model data to date).

This weekend (Oct 4-5)

So, the south swell is on the way. The Eden buoy is looking rather strong at the moment (and more recently Batemans Bay), so we should start to see an upwards trend across the Sydney region during the early evening. 

At this stage there’s no evidence to warrant upgrading or downgrading Saturday's projected surf size, so I'm going to stick with the same predictions I've had all week. However winds are now looking a little less favourable for the morning session with a reduced chance of a morning nor’wester.

I think we’ll still see it for a few hours around dawn but the current E’ly regime is likely to swing NE overnight, and then only briefly NW in the morning - which may not be enough to iron out the lumps and bumps. And winds will probably swing to the north by mid-morning and then north-east so you’ll need to find a location that can (1) handle the size, and (2) cope with the northerly airstream.

Size wise, most open Sydney beaches should manage 3-5ft surf but it’ll be a lot bigger at exposed south facing beaches, somewhere between 6ft and very occasionally 8ft in the early morning. The Hunter region will cope with this northerly airstream a little better than Sydney and the South Coast, and we could see set waves pushing upwards of 8ft to almost 10ft at times at exposed swell magnets. An easing trend is however expected into the afternoon.

Sunday looks like the pick of the weekend at this stage, with a fun sized leftover south swell in the morning and a general NW airstream across the coast (which will probably swing NE into the afternoon). South facing beaches in Sydney should manage somewhere in the 4ft range early (but only 2-3ft at remaining open beaches, and inconsistent) however the Hunter should again see some bigger bombs. Expect smaller surf into the afternoon with the accompanying sea breeze. 

Next week (Oct 6-10)

Monday will see a further continuation of easing south swell and early light winds tending moderate to fresh NE in the afternoon - exclusively favouring south facing beaches. Don't expect much size (inconsistent 2ft+ bombs) but there should be a few small peelers at swell magnets for the early session.

A couple of quick fronts skirting the lower Tasman Sea on Sunday and early Monday should produce some small new southerly energy for the first half of next week. Nothing sizeable is expected - just a weak foot or two at south facing beaches from late Monday thru' Tuesday. 

Strengthening N’ly winds overnight Monday are also likely to whip up an average NE windswell for Tuesday; but beyond that it looks like another strong frontal passage is expected from Tuesday through Wednesday and Thursday, which should kick up a couple of days of medium sized south swell for south facing beaches from Wednesday thru’ Friday. At this stage winds and weather for this period are looking pretty typical of this time of year, early light offshores with moderate to fresh nor'easters in the afternoon.

Long term (Oct 11 onwards)

Another frontal passage similar to what we’ve seen in the last few weeks (and are expecting next week) is lining up for next weekend. So, a continuation of the same mixed pattern seems in store for the coming weeks. More on this in Monday’s notes. 

Comments

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mibs-oner Friday, 3 Oct 2014 at 9:38pm

If you have contacts for the people who run the buoys tell them to fix port Kembla it's been fucked for months!!!

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drewdrewdrew Saturday, 4 Oct 2014 at 6:02pm

ben do you reckon we will see 3-5 tomorrow considering todays unanticipated size

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evosurfer Sunday, 5 Oct 2014 at 9:00am

Well wasn't Saturdays size a let down!!!

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stunet Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 2:58pm

Least it gave me a chance to catch up with a few blokes I hadn't spoken to in a while.

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thermalben Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 1:20pm

Indeed. What a baffling swell event in southern NSW. Didn't see anywhere near as much size as expected across the Sydney region, yet the South Coast picked up some bombs (see photo below from Lynden Foss (http://instagram.com/lynden_foss).

From my observations on the Northern Beaches, Sunday was generally a similar size to Saturday, somewhere in the 3-5ft range at south facing beaches but very inconsistent.

There was certainly no visible trend throughout the day on Saturday - I surfed Long Reef late afternoon and there was a couple (literally, two or three) sets pushing the 5-6ft mark at the bommie over the course of two hours (otherwise, nothing even capped at the bommie), but for the most part it was 3-4ft across the beach. With a decent wait for the sets too.

In fact there was very little size difference between reliable swell magnets and some funky sheltered locations on Saturday (don't want name spots, but it certainly went against common thinking for long period south swells). Even this morning still had inconsistent 2-3ft sets at south facing beaches - just a couple of feet smaller than the average surf size on Saturday. Bizarre. Gonna have to do some detailed investigation into why this event didn't stack up, as it's got me scratching my head.

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wellymon Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 1:49pm

Too much of a SW looking LWT IMO

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evosurfer Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 3:43pm

To much hype not enough pump.
You just got it WRONG

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thermalben Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 4:56pm

Erm, yeah Evo. I said as much. Why the aggression?

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wellymon Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 5:39pm

Evo would you like to forecast some surf on the internet for free???
By all means go for it, it is probably one of thee hardest jobs around which has to please many .
She's a tricky world of weather and swell out there;)

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evosurfer Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 7:55pm

Because im old and grumpy and only got a few decent surfs left and I over amp.
Time a runnin out.

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ACB__ Tuesday, 7 Oct 2014 at 10:05am

well buy a ticket on a surf trip and stop bitching here.

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wellymon Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 8:24pm

Fair call Evo
I understand
More will come trust me ;) :)

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mitchvg Monday, 6 Oct 2014 at 11:16pm

Is it normal for a set of waves to have different periods between each wave? e.g: wave one - 16sec - two - 16 - three - 15 - four - 13 - five

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ACB__ Tuesday, 7 Oct 2014 at 10:08am

@Ben, I think you nailed the forecast. There's a certain south facing beach a few kms south of batemans bay I have been going too for the last 8 years and Saturday morning was the best I've ever seen it... you predicted the big south swell with glassy ne,nw winds and it was delivered.

Spot on mate, keep up the good work.

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thermalben Tuesday, 7 Oct 2014 at 10:55am

Thanks mate. I disagree - most regions were much smaller and inconsistent than expected, and I'm pretty bummed it didn't come through as I thought it would. Chatting with the guys in the office this morning, and even with the benefit of hindsight I don't know if I'd necessarily have called smaller surf from this system if I had another go at the same synoptics. Regardless, it's a good swell to chalk up to experience. Part of the fun (!) of being a surf forecaster is that you learn something new every day.

Interesting that your observations came in as per expectations though - it does seem the Far South Coast scored the biggest and best waves in southern NSW from this swell (which is often the opposite of what happens from these strong SW-NE aligned fronts that push from below Tasmania into the Lower Tasman Sea).